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mrsat_98
03-03-2015, 06:01 AM
This may not be a surprise once you are through with the test!
Six Questions

The following is incredible. Prepare for a shock at the answer and prepare yourself for the next election! Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it's kind of fun and revealing. If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers.

And, no, the answers to these questions aren't all Barack Obama. Who said it?

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Tung B. Hugo Chavez C. Kim Jong II D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

and the answers are ~~~~~~~~~~~~~



































(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5 ) E None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6). E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

**** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president if you don't forward this to everyone that you know.

Todd
03-03-2015, 06:12 AM
Links to sources of her speeches?

It just makes it that more legitimate and not just another one of those email spam chain letters, like "This Really happened". ;)

ThePaleoLibertarian
03-03-2015, 06:25 AM
I think your average proglodyte would look at all of those quotes, and with a totally straight face say: "What's wrong with that? I agree with all of them."

Those of us in the liberty movement and involved with the genuine right wing know how awful those quotations are, but those on the left are totally oblivious.

CaptUSA
03-03-2015, 06:42 AM
The sentiments and concerns expressed are valid, but unfortunately, all of these quotes are out of context. Especially, number 4 where she really said, "a little bit of their own turf."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

If you plan on sharing that, you should also plan on getting called on it.

jmdrake
03-03-2015, 10:20 AM
This may not be a surprise once you are through with the test!
Six Questions

The following is incredible. Prepare for a shock at the answer and prepare yourself for the next election! Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it's kind of fun and revealing. If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers.

And, no, the answers to these questions aren't all Barack Obama. Who said it?

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Tung B. Hugo Chavez C. Kim Jong II D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

and the answers are ~~~~~~~~~~~~~



































(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5 ) E None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6). E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

**** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president if you don't forward this to everyone that you know.

LOL. Dude you totally trolled me! Good job!

jmdrake
03-03-2015, 10:23 AM
I think your average proglodyte would look at all of those quotes, and with a totally straight face say: "What's wrong with that? I agree with all of them."

Those of us in the liberty movement and involved with the genuine right wing know how awful those quotations are, but those on the left are totally oblivious.

True. You have to get people to see themselves as the person being potentially taken from. I once explained communism to one of my sons this way. It's the idea that the government should take money and redistribute it so that everyone had the same. He said "What's wrong with that?" I pointed out that he lives in a pretty nice house with his brother and his mom and that a lot of people have a much smaller house. I asked if he would be willing to move to a smaller house so that everybody could be equal. He said "Okay. I see the problem."

CaptUSA
03-03-2015, 11:29 AM
True. You have to get people to see themselves as the person being potentially taken from. I once explained communism to one of my sons this way. It's the idea that the government should take money and redistribute it so that everyone had the same. He said "What's wrong with that?" I pointed out that he lives in a pretty nice house with his brother and his mom and that a lot of people have a much smaller house. I asked if he would be willing to move to a smaller house so that everybody could be equal. He said "Okay. I see the problem."

I see what you did there, but you have to be careful with that... If that same logic is applied to anyone at the lower rungs, they'll definitely take that deal.

The reality is that no matter how hard you worked, you could never get a bigger house. And since everyone knows this, how much motivation do they have to get things done? It's just taking that explanation another step further. (Then, you can get into who decides what kind of house you get, and what kind of work you do - and the disparity of how those "deciders" live.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-03-2015, 11:37 AM
Links to sources of her speeches?

It just makes it that more legitimate and not just another one of those email spam chain letters, like "This Really happened". ;)


Edit: I saw where someone already quoted Snopes. Missed that in the earlier post.



I found found it on Snopes. I think Snopes is run by very, very liberal librarians (sort of redundant), so that perspective is often telling. It is also telling here. Snopes actually tries to gloss over the excerpts by talking about context. The funny thing is that the excerpts mostly look worse in their contexts.

By the way, Snopes is often good for verification. If Snopes is bashing it, then it's often liberty minded. If they're agreeing with it, then it's often lib.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

erowe1
03-03-2015, 11:38 AM
I'm not worried about Hillary becoming president. And if I were, I wouldn't imagine that forwarding chain emails would be the thing to stop her.

ThePaleoLibertarian
03-03-2015, 11:47 AM
The sentiments and concerns expressed are valid, but unfortunately, all of these quotes are out of context. Especially, number 4 where she really said, "a little bit of their own turf."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

If you plan on sharing that, you should also plan on getting called on it.
Personally, I assumed that the context probably changed the quote somewhat. I think the more important thing is would the average progressive really have an issue with those quotes. Maybe some quibbling her and there, but I don't think they'd have much of a problem.

I don't think those quotes out of or in context should be called "Marxist"; it makes the right look ignorant to smear everything on the left as Marxian. I recall some GOP calling Paul Krugman a Marxist, which is silly since Keynesians obviously aren't Marx disciples. Social democrats tend to be cultural Marxists, but economically they do differ.