EFF: "But now we face the really hard part: making sure the FCC doesn’t abuse its authority"

[Nolan]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry anymore, I'm just numb from the dumb shits statist are doing to themselves. Here's a quote from the article in question:

So congratulations, Team Internet. We put the FCC on the right path at last. Reclassification under Title II was a necessary step in order to give the FCC the authority it needed to enact net neutrality rules. But now we face the really hard part: making sure the FCC doesn’t abuse its authority.
link:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/fcc-votes-net-neutrality-big-win

What the fustercluck does the EFF think they can do? Sue the government? I tried to side with them for awhile...but now, seasteading is profoundly acceptable to get me NOPE and run the fuck away from statists hive-minds.

[AuH20]

Some days I wonder if I'm actually the crazy one, since so many people are fooled with this contrived nonsense. Maybe it's just me? Please tell me it's a product of my condition....:confused::eek::(

[AuH20]

The TPTB created the Securities & Exchange Commission in 1934 and transferred all enforcement & prosecutorial discretion from the FBI to the SEC. In fact, the first chairman of the SEC was none other than the infamous Joseph P. Kennedy (remember that this Kennedy patriarch conveniently cashed out some remarkable investments before the Great Crash of 1929). The FCC is going down the same dark road with this Title II usurpation of the Internet. Expect a rogue's gallery of criminals dictating the rules of the internet and concealing illegal activity.

[nayjevin]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry anymore, I'm just numb from the dumb shits statist are doing to themselves. Here's a quote from the article in question:

link:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/fcc-votes-net-neutrality-big-win

What the fustercluck does the EFF think they can do? Sue the government? I tried to side with them for awhile...but now, seasteading is profoundly acceptable to get me NOPE and run the fuck away from statists hive-minds.

They want enforcement of neutral treatment of data packets, which is great for netflix (and for programmers who aren't into elegant efficiency). This at the cost of prohibiting anyone connecting to this internet as a server from innovating prioritization algorithms that might serve hosts better.

[Lucille]

Curses, foiled again!
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2015/02/curses-foiled-again.html


Once more, the techno-left is astonished by the discovery that giving more control to the federal government doesn't work out in exactly the precision fine-tuned way they had planned in order to solve every problem [...]

It never seems to occur to them that the only thing that will ever work is to keep the government the fuck out of it. Once the principle of government "management" is established, the goose is cooked. The only question is to what extent, and to whose benefit.

Once you declare "the FCC has a role to play", your part is done. You won't get to tell them how to play it. The FCC will decide that for itself, thank you very much.

[Cabal]

Idiots. All the tech industry praise over this is disgusting.

http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/4-star-wars-quotes.gif

[BV2]

They want enforcement of neutral treatment of data packets, which is great for netflix (and for programmers who aren't into elegant efficiency). This at the cost of prohibiting anyone connecting to this internet as a server from innovating prioritization algorithms that might serve hosts better.
When you say neutral treatment of data packets, you do just mean that every packet must wait in the same queue? I am not very sophisticated in my understanding of networks, obviously.

[nayjevin]

When you say neutral treatment of data packets, you do just mean that every packet must wait in the same queue? I am not very sophisticated in my understanding of networks, obviously.

'This is from netflix.com, therefore do a'
'This isn't, therefore do b'

I'm hoping someone knows more than I do, I might not be right about that.

[BV2]

'This is from netflix.com, therefore do a'
'This isn't, therefore do b'

I'm hoping someone knows more than I do, I might not be right about that.

All I needed to be against Net Neutrality were the words, "legal content." Talking about Child porn? Well, actually, that kind of filth should be let out so that certain amongst us can locate the makers and tcb. But that isn't what they are talking about, is it? Not really, recent developments show that our would-be-rulers like them some pervert activity.

[DamianTV]

Some days I wonder if I'm actually the crazy one, since so many people are fooled with this contrived nonsense. Maybe it's just me? Please tell me it's a product of my condition....:confused::eek::(

If you arent paranoid, you arent paying attention! The only condition you have is that you are "Awake".

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This strikes me as a "slow burn" type of takeover. We wont see mandatory Internet IDs tomorrow, but they will most likely be there in 20 years. We wont see RPF.com go offline tomorrow, but in a year. They will continue to hide behind a series of excuses, "for the children", "protecting you", "just doing my job", "my boss said". Freedom in this country didnt evaporate overnight, it took decades to "slow boil" this Frog.

Incrementalization.

[Cabal]

'This is from netflix.com, therefore do a'
'This isn't, therefore do b'

I'm hoping someone knows more than I do, I might not be right about that.

My understanding is that basically, content providers like Netflix rely on ISP infrastructure to support the large bandwidth demand by consumers for their content, considering all the HD streaming taking place. Netflix -> ISP -> end user. So, ISPs generally want to offset that cost onto the content providers (e.g. Netflix) that are requiring all of this additional bandwidth and infrastructure to support their service to end users. This means they can limit Netflix's ability to get their product to consumers (data caps, throttling, etc), or alternatively charge Netflix for the additional infrastructure they'd need to invest in to help deliver premium content to the end user. Some look at this as greedy, since ISPs would effectively be charging consumers and content providers. Net Neutrality wants to force ISPs to be unable to do this--ISPs would no longer be able to offer premium traffic services to certain high demand content providers since the ISPs will be forced to provide equal traffic services to all content providers, regardless of bandwidth differentials between one content provider and another.

This doesn't sound that bad at face value, but the externalities will probably be pretty terrible for the industry and the consumer. On top of that, now that ISPs are classified as common carrier, they'll also be much more open to regulatory oversight and bureaucracy than they were before. And who knows what kind of abject lunacy will spawn from that on its own.

[jmdrake]

Remember when lots of tech types thought the government needed to stop Microsoft from using their monopoly power to force everyone to use their web browser? And for those, like me, who went along with that stupidity, how do you feel now that Firefox and Chrome have basically won the browser wars and Microsoft is having a helluva time trying to break into the mobile phone market? Invisible hand FTW!

[idiom]

They have no idea what this will look like. Tech people have never been trod on by the state before. They all live in a libertarian Utopia, which is why its the only place with any innovation any more. They don't submit code for review by agencies before posting it to the web. This is totally alien to them.

Just wait till you have to wait 3 months to get changes to your BGP settings approved. (Something currently extremely dynamic and self modifying to keep the internet working) They will Implode. They have no idea what the US Govt is like.



What they want, is what New Zealand got, where the natural monopolies of last mile fibre are strictly regulated and controlled, and owned by small local utility companies who rent the fibre out at the same rate to all-comers, but everything above that, including back-haul is unregulated and anyone's game.

[Matt Collins]

Tell them that this move just gave President Jeb Bush control over the Internet... see how fast they change their minds.

[angelatc]

Remember when lots of tech types thought the government needed to stop Microsoft from using their monopoly power to force everyone to use their web browser? And for those, like me, who went along with that stupidity, how do you feel now that Firefox and Chrome have basically won the browser wars and Microsoft is having a helluva time trying to break into the mobile phone market? Invisible hand FTW!

Well, even if they fail at phone, I will still have my Zune.