PDA

View Full Version : Latest Ben Swann's Truth in Media: The Origin of ISIS




ItsTime
02-25-2015, 11:29 AM
The best breakdown of ISIS yet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kdi1UXxhY

Link: http://benswann.com/truth-in-media-the-origin-of-isis/

heavenlyboy34
02-25-2015, 12:02 PM
shared, thnx. ~hugs~

jmdrake
02-25-2015, 12:20 PM
Good video. Except it's wrong on this point. The U.S. is not attacking the oil wells. The U.S. is only attacking the ISIS refineries. But ISIS doesn't need the refineries. They sell the crude oil to Turkey, the Kurds and to Syria. Syria buys ISIS oil because Syria is under an illegal and immoral U.S. embargo.

James_Madison_Lives
03-01-2015, 03:44 PM
Good video. Except it's wrong on this point. The U.S. is not attacking the oil wells. The U.S. is only attacking the ISIS refineries. But ISIS doesn't need the refineries. They sell the crude oil to Turkey, the Kurds and to Syria. Syria buys ISIS oil because Syria is under an illegal and immoral U.S. embargo.

They pretty much sell stolen crude in convoys to Turkey, so attacking the refineries is part of the effort to destroy any and all Arab infrastructure. Israel wants to become the regional hegemon. They don't want any strong national governments whatsoever, with its own income base. That why they so badly want to bomb Iran. The nuclear capacity is only the excuse. They want Muslim countries back in the Stone Age, weak and crippled like Iraq now is. Israel revels to the sound of crying Muslim babies.

http://i.alalam.ir/news/Image/original/2014/07/12/alalam_635407683158793260_25f_4x3.jpg

P3ter_Griffin
03-01-2015, 08:30 PM
I think they should've approached the opening part on Saddam differently. They basically made it out that he was a good guy, which he wasn't. Our reason was for going in there was 1, intel gained by torture, and 2, faulty intel that said Saddam had WMDs. Anyone who watches that with background knowledge on Saddam will be immediately skeptical about the rest of the video that followed.

A short read on the subject to show more complexity: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ar/security/2013/11/syria-islamic-state-iraq-sham-growth.html#%23ixzz3S4Ns9h00

Basically I don't think 12 minutes is enough time to cover ISIS's rise in any sort of detail that would actually explain the rise of ISIS.

James_Madison_Lives
03-04-2015, 01:12 PM
I think they should've approached the opening part on Saddam differently. They basically made it out that he was a good guy, which he wasn't. Our reason was for going in there was 1, intel gained by torture, and 2, faulty intel that said Saddam had WMDs. Anyone who watches that with background knowledge on Saddam will be immediately skeptical about the rest of the video that followed.

A short read on the subject to show more complexity: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ar/security/2013/11/syria-islamic-state-iraq-sham-growth.html#%23ixzz3S4Ns9h00

Basically I don't think 12 minutes is enough time to cover ISIS's rise in any sort of detail that would actually explain the rise of ISIS.

I don't think he makes out Saddam to be a good guy, just points out that he was a run-of-the-mill dictator of the type we never have a problem supporting when it suits the US agenda. And it is true Iraq had reliable electricity and garbage collection before the US invasion. Swann is merely pointing out the facts.

No, the intel on WMD was not faulty. Bush flat-out lied about the WMD, and said Saddam could strike the US with nuclear weapons "in as little as 45 minutes" when he was nowhere near this capability.

But for those for whom Swann's analysis is not enough, there is the US Navy admiral who said US allies created ISIS (obviously with the nod of the US:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/former-us-navy-admiral-says-isis-in-syria-financed-by-us-allies/article/423442

UWDude
03-04-2015, 03:31 PM
Oh, a Ben Swann video. I thought I subscribed to his channel. He never comes up in my feed.
Wait, I already did subscribe, over a year ago, yet not once has a video of his surfaced in my subscriptions page.

James_Madison_Lives
03-09-2015, 02:31 PM
Oh, a Ben Swann video. I thought I subscribed to his channel. He never comes up in my feed.
Wait, I already did subscribe, over a year ago, yet not once has a video of his surfaced in my subscriptions page.

bump.

ClydeCoulter
03-09-2015, 04:23 PM
Another good one from Storm Clouds Gathering to use for comparison.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI