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twomp
02-24-2015, 03:44 PM
Isn't ISIS just the perfect tool for the United States government? They can use ISIS as an excuse to do anything. And meanwhile, the sheep go, "baaaaaaa"


Not all speech is free—if it’s in support of ISIS. Helping the terror group spread the word online is a violation of anti-terror laws, a top Justice Department official says.

Help spread ISIS propaganda on Twitter or Facebook, and you could go to jail. That’s the message the Justice Department sent Monday, as a top official said he is willing to indict people who assist ISIS with its use and production of social media. The announcement raises questions about where the government would draw the line between support for a terrorist group and legally protected free speech.

Provocative tweets, Facebook posts, and grisly online beheading videos have all been key parts of ISIS’s recruitment and propaganda strategy, and one of the hardest elements of the terror group’s rise for U.S. national security agencies and technology companies to combat. And ISIS has attracted supporters online who, while they don’t participate in attacks or killings, endorse the group’s actions and proliferate its message. The Obama administration devoted much of last week to a summit on countering extremism—especially extremism online.

But John Carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security, told a cybersecurity conference in Washington on Monday that officials could try to blunt ISIS’s violent PR operation by essentially trying propagandists as terrorists. He suggested the Justice Department could bring prosecutions under the law against providing material support to a terrorist organization. His remarks were believed to be the first time a U.S. official has ever said that people who assist ISIS with online media could face criminal prosecution.

Carlin was asked at the conference whether he would “consider criminal charges” against people who are “proliferating ISIS social media.”

His answer: “Yes. You need to look at the particular facts and evidence.” But Carlin noted that the United States could use the material support law to prosecute “technical expertise” to a designated terrorist organization. And spreading the word for ISIS online could count as such expertise.

Carlin didn’t expand upon his remarks, which were largely devoted to the Justice Department’s efforts to counter cyber espionage. A spokesperson for Carlin didn’t respond to a request for further comment.

But legal experts have questioned the use of material support applied to speech that is normally protected by the First Amendment, indicating that Carlin’s idea rested on controversial grounds.

“It’s highly doubtful that the material support statute could be constitutionally applied to the simple promotion of a terrorist group on Facebook,” David Greene, the civil liberties director and a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told The Daily Beast. In a 2008 case, Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project, the Supreme Court upheld the material support statute in the face of a First Amendment challenge, Greene said.




read the rest here:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/23/justice-department-we-ll-go-after-isis-twitter-army.html

thoughtomator
02-24-2015, 04:34 PM
check payroll at State

CPUd
02-24-2015, 05:45 PM
This should be wildly entertaining.

devil21
02-24-2015, 08:06 PM
Interesting timing there considering the net neutrality/censorship stuff coming down the pipe in a couple days.

They could easily use this same principle to try to silence anyone that comments on 'ISIS' outside of the approved feds/msm narrative.

twomp
02-24-2015, 10:39 PM
Interesting timing there considering the net neutrality/censorship stuff coming down the pipe in a couple days.

They could easily use this same principle to try to silence anyone that comments on 'ISIS' outside of the approved feds/msm narrative.

How long before criticism of the the government's handling of ISIS get spun into supporting ISIS? Kind of how Ron Paul saying that 9/11 was an example of blowback was spun by the neo-cons into "Ron Paul blames America for 9/11"

jmdrake
02-24-2015, 10:43 PM
check payroll at State

I was thinking the CIA.

UWDude
02-25-2015, 12:46 AM
So basically, it is like this. even talking about ISIS will be verbotten. All Americans will be able to talk about, is how victorious they have been against Eurasia/Oceana. They won't even know ISIS exists, except as the big boogyman of Eurasia. And when DC and New York turn to glowing rubble, they will deny it for about 2 weeks, just like Japan did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then the government will have to fess up.


How long before criticism of the the government's handling of ISIS get spun into supporting ISIS? Kind of how Ron Paul saying that 9/11 was an example of blowback was spun by the neo-cons into "Ron Paul blames America for 9/11"


Oh, I give it about 2 more years.

At occupy, every single person I asked, every one of them, how long the United States has, gave the same answer: 5 years. As we would talk, I would eventually ask, "how long do you think the United States has?" That exact phrase, without any indication of what it meant, but the answer was always, "about 5 years".
If extremist crowdsourcing is any projection of the future, (which it very may well not be, but remember, all these people I talked to for hours were quite knowledgeable). You all missed out, really, but, whatever.

enhanced_deficit
02-25-2015, 01:02 AM
This seems about as credible as tranny-gate scandal news.

Ronin Truth
02-25-2015, 02:32 PM
Does the Twitter army have any guns?

muh_roads
02-25-2015, 02:44 PM
This means we should all go spread around that new Ben Swann ISIS video on twitter.