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sunny
12-04-2007, 08:45 AM
read this speech everyone!
pass it on!
send him a thank you!

ps (except for the word democracy used and "constitutional democracy")
MAYOR OF SALT LAKE CITY TO BUSH, CONGRESS AND MEDIA "WE WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE"
This one ought to be read at every patriotic meeting and get-together! It is
guaranteed to send shivers down your spine!

Address by Mayor Ross C. "Rocky" Anderson

Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our
voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President Cheney, to other
members of the Bush Administration (past and present), to a majority of
Congress, including Utah's entire congressional delegation, and to much of the
mainstream media: "You have failed us miserably and we won't take it anymore."

While we had every reason to expect far more of you, you have been pompous,
greedy, cruel, and incompetent as you have led this great nation to a moral,
military, and national security abyss." "You have breached trust with the
American people in the most egregious ways. You have utterly failed in the
performance of your jobs. You have undermined our Constitution, permitted the
violation of the most fundamental treaty obligations, and betrayed the rule
of law.

You have engaged in, or permitted, heinous human rights abuses of the sort
never before countenanced in our nation's history as a matter of official
policy. You have sent American men and women to kill and be killed on the basis
of lies, on the basis of shifting justifications, without competent
leadership, and without even a coherent plan for this monumental blunder.

We are here to tell you: We won't take it anymore! You have acted in direct
contravention of values that we, as Americans who love our country, hold
dear. You have deceived us in the most cynical, outrageous ways. You have
undermined, or allowed the undermining of, our constitutional system of checks
and balances among the three presumed co-equal branches of government. You
have helped lead our nation to the brink of fascism, of a dictatorship
contemptuous of our nation's treaty obligations, federal statutory law, our
Constitution, and the rule of law.

Because of you, and because of your jingoistic false 'patriotism,' our world
is far more dangerous, our nation is far more despised, and the threat of
terrorism is far greater than ever before. It has been absolutely astounding
how you have committed the most horrendous acts, causing such needless
tragedy in the lives of millions of people, yet you wear your so-called religion
on your sleeves, asserting your God-is-on-my-side nonsense when what you
have done flies in the face of any religious or humanitarian tradition. Your
hypocrisy is mind-boggling - and disgraceful. What part of "Thou shalt not
kill" do you not understand? What part of the "Golden rule" do you not
understand? What part of "be honest," "be responsible," and "be accountable" don't
you understand? What part of "Blessed are the peacekeepers" do you not
understand?

Because of you, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, many
thousands of people have suffered horrendous lifetime injuries, and millions have
been run off from their homes. For the sake of our nation, for the sake of
our children, and for the sake of our brothers and sisters around the world,
we are morally compelled to say, as loudly as we can, "We won't take it
anymore!" As United States agents kidnap, disappear, and torture human beings
around the world, you justify, you deceive, and you cover up. We find what
you have done to men, women and children, and to the good name and reputation
of the United States, so appalling, so unconscionable, and so outrageous as
to compel us to call upon you to step aside and allow other men and women
who are competent, true to our nation's values, and with high moral principles
to stand in your places for the good of our nation, for the good of our
children, and for the good of our world.

In the case of the President and Vice President, this means impeachment and
removal from office, without any further delay from a complacent, complicit
Congress, the Democratic majority of which cares more about political gain
in 2008 than it does about the vindication of our Constitution, the rule of
law, and democratic accountability. It means the election of people as
President and Vice President who, unlike most of the presidential candidates from
both major parties, have not aided and abetted in the perpetration of the
illegal, tragic, devastating invasion and occupation of Iraq. And it means the
election of people as President and Vice President who will commit to
return our nation to the moral and strategic imperative of refraining from
torturing human beings. In the case of the majority of Congress, it means electing
people who are diligent enough to learn the facts, including reading
available National Intelligence Estimates, before voting to go to war. It means
electing to Congress men and women who will jealously guard Congress's sole
prerogative to declare war. It means electing to Congress men and women who
will not submit like vapid lap dogs to presidential requests for blank checks
to engage in so-called preemptive wars, for legislation permitting
warrant-less wiretapping of communications involving US citizens, and for dangerous,
irresponsible, saber-rattling legislation like the recent Kyl- Lieberman
amendment.

We must avoid the trap of focusing the blame solely upon President Bush and
Vice-President Cheney. This is not just about a few people who have wronged
our country - and the world. They were enabled by members of both parties in
Congress, they were enabled by the pathetic mainstream news media, and,
ultimately, they have been enabled by the American people--40% of whom are so
ill-informed they still think Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks a people who
know and care more about baseball statistics and which drunken starlets are
not wearing underwear than they know and care about the atrocities being
committed every single day in our name by a government for which we need to take
responsibility.

As loyal Americans, without regard to political partisanship as veterans, as
teachers, as religious leaders, as working men and women, as students, as
professionals, as businesspeople, as public servants, as retirees, as people
of all ages, races, ethnic origins, sexual orientations, and faiths we are
here to say to the Bush administration, to the majority of Congress, and to
the mainstream media: "You have violated your solemn responsibilities. You
have undermined our democracy, spat upon our Constitution, and engaged in
outrageous, despicable acts. You have brought our nation to a point of
immorality, inhumanity, and illegality of immense, tragic, unprecedented
proportions."

But we will live up to our responsibilities as citizens, as brothers and
sisters of those who have suffered as a result of the imperial bullying of the
United States government, and as moral actors who must take a stand: And we
will, and must, mean it when we say 'We won't take it anymore.' If we want
principled, courageous elected officials, we need to be principled,
courageous, and tenacious ourselves. History has demonstrated that our elected
officials are not the leaders the leadership has to come from us. If we don't
insist, if we don't persist, then we are not living up to our responsibilities
as citizens in a democracy and our responsibilities as moral human beings. If
we remain silent, we signal to Congress and the Bush administration and to
candidates running for office and to the world that we support the status
quo.

Silence is complicity. Only by standing up for what's right and never
letting down can we say we are doing our part. Our government, on the basis of a
campaign we now know was entirely fraudulent, attacked and militarily
occupied a nation that posed no danger to the United States. Our government, acting
in our name, has caused immense, unjustified death and destruction. It all
started five years ago, yet where have we, the American people, been? At
this point, we are responsible. We get together once in a while at
demonstrations and complain about Bush and Cheney, about Congress, and about the
pathetic news media. We point fingers and yell a lot. Then most people politely go
away until another demonstration a few months later.

How many people can honestly say they have spent as much time learning about
and opposing the outrages of the Bush administration as they have spent
watching sports or mindless television programs during the past five years?
Escapist, time-sapping sports and insipid entertainment have indeed become the
opiate of the masses. Why is this country so sound-asleep? Why do we abide
what is happening to our nation, to our Constitution, to the cause of peace
and international law and order? Why are we not doing all in our power to put
an end to this madness? We should be in the streets regularly and students
should be raising hell on our campuses. We should be making it clear in
every way possible that apologies or convoluted, disingenuous explanations just
don't cut it when presidential candidates and so many others voted to
authorize George Bush and his neo-con buddies to send American men and women to
attack and occupy Iraq.

Let's awaken, and wake up the country by committing here and now to do all
each of us can to take our nation back. Let them hear us across the country,
as we ask others to join us: "We won't take it anymore!" I implore you: Draw
a line. Figure out exactly where your own moral breaking point is. How much
will you put up with before you say "No more" and mean it?

I have drawn my line as a matter of simple personal morality: I cannot, and
will not, support any candidate who has voted to fund the atrocities in
Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who will not commit to
remove all US troops, as soon as possible, from Iraq. I cannot, and will not,
support any candidate who has supported legislation that takes us one step
closer to attacking Iran. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has
not fought to stop the kidnapping, disappearances, and torture being carried
on in our name.

If we expect our nation's elected officials to take us seriously, let us
send a powerful message they cannot misunderstand. Let them know we really do
have our moral breaking point. Let them know we have drawn a bright line. Let
them know they cannot take our support for granted that, regardless of
their party and regardless of other political considerations, they will not have
our support if they cannot provide, and have not provided, principled
leadership.

The people of this nation may have been far too quiet for five years, but
let us pledge that we won't let it go on one more day that we will do all we
can to put an end to the illegalities, the moral degradation, and the
disintegration of our nation's reputation in the world.

Let us be unified in drawing the line in declaring that we do have a moral
breaking point. Let us insist, together, in supporting our troops and in
gratitude for the freedoms for which our veterans gave so much that we bring our
troops home from Iraq , that we return our government to a constitutional
democracy, and that we commit to honoring the fundamental principles of human
rights.

In defense of our country, in defense of our Constitution, in defense of our
shared values as Americans and as moral human beings we declare today that
we will fight in every way possible to stop the insanity, stop the continued
military occupation of Iraq, and stop the moral depravity reflected by the
kidnapping, disappearing, and torture of people around the world.

bolidew
12-04-2007, 08:48 AM
This is just great!

BLS
12-04-2007, 08:56 AM
Wow....I hope this gets some MSM coverage.

Arklatex
12-04-2007, 08:58 AM
Where and when was this said?

angelatc
12-04-2007, 08:58 AM
Did he really say the Ron Paul part, or did the original poster add that?

MGreen
12-04-2007, 09:03 AM
The last paragraph, naming Ron Paul, was not in the speech.

Hook
12-04-2007, 09:06 AM
I doubt he endorsed Ron Paul. I haven't heard him say anything about Dr. Paul and I live in Salt Lake.

acstichter
12-04-2007, 09:06 AM
Oct 27, 2007



He doesn't mention Ron Paul at all, some other author stuck that in :(

Lexx78
12-04-2007, 09:14 AM
still a great piece.

this should go to msm indeed.

Let's hope they pick it up.

Pharoah
12-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Superb speech, nontheless.

Mortikhi
12-04-2007, 09:16 AM
Ok, now let's see some action.
We already know that letters don't do shit, else we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today.

Truth Warrior
12-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Interesting speech!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Anderson
( not one of the "good guys".<IMHO> )

RPinSEAZ
12-04-2007, 09:25 AM
Of course it's added in later, who is going to say H tee tee Pee colon backslash backslash double u double u double u dot Ron Paul dot com in a speech?

sunny
12-04-2007, 09:29 AM
The last paragraph, naming Ron Paul, was not in the speech.

never assume anything. that was forwarded to me as is. i posted it.
i did a search and yes the last part about dr. paul was NOT there.
thanks mgreen!

paulitics
12-04-2007, 09:29 AM
still a great piece.

this should go to msm indeed.

Let's hope they pick it up.

lol. The msm is implicated in the speech.

DrNoZone
12-04-2007, 09:34 AM
I heard Rocky give a speech REAL close to this at the anti-war rally in SLC a month ago, and he NEVER said a word about Dr. Paul (even though our Meetup was out in force at that rally).

margomaps
12-04-2007, 09:41 AM
Interesting speech!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Anderson
( not one of the "good guys".<IMHO> )

Agreed. Speech had some excellent points, but this guy is diametrically opposed to the majority of Ron Paul's philosophy. To wit:

- His religion is environmentalism
- He's an anti-gunner
- He's a race-baiter, a full-on proponent of affirmative action
- He's an anti-smoking zealot
- He's an illegal immigrant proponent

Some of you might be sympathetic to some of those views. But on the whole he's an anti-freedom, left-leaning Democrat. Period.

torchbearer
12-04-2007, 09:42 AM
It doesn't make sense without the last part... who else could he be talking about? Mitt supports torture.

margomaps
12-04-2007, 09:50 AM
It doesn't make sense without the last part... who else could he be talking about? Mitt supports torture.

Kucinich, Gravel, Nader...who knows?

cswake
12-04-2007, 09:53 AM
Agreed. Speech had some excellent points, but this guy is diametrically opposed to the majority of Ron Paul's philosophy. To wit:

- His religion is environmentalism
- He's an anti-gunner
- He's a race-baiter, a full-on proponent of affirmative action
- He's an anti-smoking zealot
- He's an illegal immigrant proponent

Some of you might be sympathetic to some of those views. But on the whole he's an anti-freedom, left-leaning Democrat. Period.Despite these views, his endorsement of Paul indicates that there are other issues that are more important and take precedence over the ones listed here.

Question_Authority
12-04-2007, 10:03 AM
A report on the speech. It was made in October. I wish more local and state leaders would stand up like he did. They are probably afraid to, unfortunately.

http://sun.dixie.edu/index.php?pg=story&storyid=2768

RPinSEAZ
12-04-2007, 10:07 AM
It doesn't make sense without the last part... who else could he be talking about? Mitt supports torture.

Nobody in particular because there isn't anybody. I get the idea that he's was making the speech to raise his approval ratings and nothing more. Whether he believes any of it.

Politeia
12-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Here is the original of this speech, direct from the SLC city gummint:

http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/2007%20Speeches/102507octoberdemonstration.pdf

Unfortunately, it's going all over now with the added paragraph, which won't make us look good when the word gets out. We must be more careful about this sort of thing. See:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/017395.html

davidkachel
12-04-2007, 10:18 AM
Be careful. I live in Salt Lake City and Rocky is an "out there" lala leftist who in the past has always wanted to run everyone's life, i.e., status quo. It is almost certain he has an agenda involving other Democrats' campaigns.

However, this speech is so fiery and so completely in line with RP's philosophy that I suppose it is possible he has turned a corner. Regardless, it beats the hell out of Hillary!

LibertyLu
12-04-2007, 12:02 PM
I was in attendance when he gave this speech. It was awesome. Our local meetup also had giant RP posters and handouts for all. It was during the nationwide anti-war rally on Oct. 27th.

The crowd often broke into chants of "we won't take it anymore!" Very good stuff.
I was kind of surprised to hear words so in agreement with Ron's stance on our constitution and our liberties coming from our own mayor. Naturally, I pointed this out to everyone I handed a flyer to. :D Rocky Anderson has long been an outspoken critic of the war in Iraq and the Bush administration. After the speech, it was kind of funny to hear someone on the mic encourage Rocky to someday run for president, not really knowing that they already have the REAL DEAL as a choice!

kotetu
12-04-2007, 12:55 PM
good speech.

dude58677
12-04-2007, 02:11 PM
This is like our new Declaration of Independence.:)

WOW!:)

fluoridatedbrainsoup
12-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Sounds like an endorsement to me ;b

Mark
12-05-2007, 07:58 AM
This is excellent!