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Anti Federalist
02-21-2015, 06:45 PM
'American Sniper' Killer Eddie Ray Routh Wasn't Insane, Expert Says
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/american-sniper-killer-eddie-ray-routh-wasnt-insane-expert-says-n310041
21 Feb. 2015
The ex-marine accused of killing "American Sniper" Chris Kyle and another man at a shooting range was not legally insane because he chose the time and place to gun down both men, and he avoided killing the pair while they were driving because he feared an accident, experts for the prosecution testified Friday.
Forensic psychologist Dr. Randall Price testified that murder suspect Eddie Ray Routh was instead experiencing paranoia, irritability and depression due to residual effects of smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol when he killed Kyle and Chad Littlefield on Feb. 2, 2013.
"He did choose the time to kill them," Price said.
Price said Routh indicated he was agitated that Kyle brought Littlefield along for their outing, and "he thought they weren't treating him right." The guns in the back seat of the truck made Routh "fearful for his life" and "he considered to kill them while on way to gun range, but if he did they may have an accident that would kill him."
"Individuals with schizophrenia don't have that much insight to what is going on," Price said.
A second witness for the prosecution, psychiatrist Dr. Michael Arambula agreed, saying, Routh "didn't have issues with Chris (Kyle) — only Chad (Littlefield) — but because Chris would shoot him for shooting Chad, he had to shoot Chris. And that makes sense, and is not psychotic thinking."
Routh's attorneys will argue that he is not guilty by reason of insanity. A defense witness, Dr. Mitchell H. Dunn, testified Thursday that Routh's medical records and interviews indicated he was suffering from schizophrenia at the time of the crime. The defense rested their case Thursday.
Prosecution rebuttal is expected to continue Monday. Prosecutors have said they will seek life in prison without parole if he is convicted of capital murder, rather than the death penalty.
Kyle was reputed to be the deadliest sniper in U.S. history. His autobiography, "American Sniper," is the inspiration for the Oscar-nominated movie released this year.
amy31416
02-21-2015, 08:49 PM
On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
I don't know much about the case, but the movie was fantastic.
enhanced_deficit
02-21-2015, 10:29 PM
I don't know much about the case, but the movie was fantastic.
Yea it seems to be getting praise from many quarters , even from within swc team.
Michelle Obama Praises American Sniper (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?467853-Michelle-Obama-Praises-American-Sniper&)
Anti Federalist
02-21-2015, 11:31 PM
What is the swc team?
Suspected War Criminal.
CaptainAmerica
02-21-2015, 11:35 PM
'American Sniper' Killer Eddie Ray Routh Wasn't Insane, Expert Says
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/american-sniper-killer-eddie-ray-routh-wasnt-insane-expert-says-n310041
21 Feb. 2015
The ex-marine accused of killing "American Sniper" Chris Kyle and another man at a shooting range was not legally insane because he chose the time and place to gun down both men, and he avoided killing the pair while they were driving because he feared an accident, experts for the prosecution testified Friday.
Forensic psychologist Dr. Randall Price testified that murder suspect Eddie Ray Routh was instead experiencing paranoia, irritability and depression due to residual effects of smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol when he killed Kyle and Chad Littlefield on Feb. 2, 2013.
"He did choose the time to kill them," Price said.
Price said Routh indicated he was agitated that Kyle brought Littlefield along for their outing, and "he thought they weren't treating him right." The guns in the back seat of the truck made Routh "fearful for his life" and "he considered to kill them while on way to gun range, but if he did they may have an accident that would kill him."
"Individuals with schizophrenia don't have that much insight to what is going on," Price said.
A second witness for the prosecution, psychiatrist Dr. Michael Arambula agreed, saying, Routh "didn't have issues with Chris (Kyle) — only Chad (Littlefield) — but because Chris would shoot him for shooting Chad, he had to shoot Chris. And that makes sense, and is not psychotic thinking."
Routh's attorneys will argue that he is not guilty by reason of insanity. A defense witness, Dr. Mitchell H. Dunn, testified Thursday that Routh's medical records and interviews indicated he was suffering from schizophrenia at the time of the crime. The defense rested their case Thursday.
Prosecution rebuttal is expected to continue Monday. Prosecutors have said they will seek life in prison without parole if he is convicted of capital murder, rather than the death penalty.
Kyle was reputed to be the deadliest sniper in U.S. history. His autobiography, "American Sniper," is the inspiration for the Oscar-nominated movie released this year.
fuck the experts. experts in dispersing their own story.
Suspected War Criminal.
What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
Anti Federalist
02-22-2015, 12:00 AM
What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
Part of the team.
I'm sure enhanced_deficit will be happy to explain it to you, Ed.
UWDude
02-22-2015, 12:07 AM
He feared an accident, but didn't fear getting pulled over by the police in the car of the man he had just killed?
I love how his target was Littlefield. LoL He probably didn't even really know who Chris Kyle was, (as in the stories about Kyle may have been quite pointless, as the target of his paranoid delusions was Littlefield).
UWDude
02-22-2015, 12:16 AM
LoL. If Routhe were a cop, he could just claim he feared for his life. They had guns, in their hands.
Honestly, I'm thankful that the shitty movie and book is all Kyle will ever have to contribute. A psychopath is dead and a schizo will pay the price for it.
We truly live in an insane world.
enhanced_deficit
02-22-2015, 01:34 PM
What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
In all posts above, nobody here said that she was suspected of committing war crimes.
She is part of a team that includes Nobel Peace Prize winner swc.
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2014/120514mic1.jpg
http://rt.com/usa/178252-obama-criminal-israel-cornel-west/
qh4dotcom
02-22-2015, 02:49 PM
On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
One word: Karma
With all the lies CK has been caught spreading for self promotion, I can only guess at the frustration levels Routh (a vet with PTSD) must have felt hanging out with CK. Imagine realizing you are only a prop for some braggart's foundation and having to listen to that know-it-all who you know is full of crap. No wonder he snapped. Routh needed some quiet time to reflect.
Ronin Truth
02-23-2015, 06:54 AM
"Normal is the average insanity of the mass." -- R.D. Laing
paleocon1
02-23-2015, 07:26 AM
............... a schizo will pay the price for it.
............
or maybe an MKULTRA candidate.
specsaregood
02-23-2015, 07:29 AM
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oyarde
02-23-2015, 10:09 AM
What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
War on children's lunch .School children are prison detainees .
AuH20
02-23-2015, 11:26 AM
I wonder if Kyle's death had any connection to the Boston Bombing? Weren't there Craft International personnel seen there?
AuH20
02-23-2015, 11:38 AM
What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
Heck, kyle bragged about killing 30(?) Americans illegally in new Orleans. Shouldn't we be giving this guy a medal?
But they were savages! He's a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rolleyes:
UWDude
02-24-2015, 09:37 AM
What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
it is suspicious to say the least.
thoughtomator
02-24-2015, 09:45 AM
What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.
AuH20
02-24-2015, 09:55 AM
One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.
That's plausible as well. It just doesn't pass the logic test that Kyle survives 4 tours in a highly dangerous & chaotic Iraq and then is summarily executed by a Marine washout in the domestic United States? Something is not right there.
pcosmar
02-24-2015, 12:50 PM
One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.
Or he was involved and was killed due to his big fucking mouth.
I think Eddie Ray has a shit for brains attorney. (I also suspect he may have had a good reason for offing these guys)
specsaregood
02-24-2015, 01:08 PM
Or he was involved and was killed due to his big fucking mouth.
I think Eddie Ray has a shit for brains attorney. (I also suspect he may have had a good reason for offing these guys)
Given kyles bragging about killing American citizens in the homeland without trial, my thoughts since the beginning have been that maybe they told this guy they intended to continue and maybe even tried to get him to join them and he justifiably felt the need to put them down.
enhanced_deficit
02-24-2015, 02:44 PM
One word: Karma
Karma seems to be in same family of terms as blowback but is different.
oyarde
02-25-2015, 12:57 AM
So , you all think , he got David Sanchez Morales'd ?
On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
That hardly justifies murdering him.
oyarde
02-25-2015, 09:23 AM
He feared an accident, but didn't fear getting pulled over by the police in the car of the man he had just killed?
I love how his target was Littlefield. LoL He probably didn't even really know who Chris Kyle was, (as in the stories about Kyle may have been quite pointless, as the target of his paranoid delusions was Littlefield).
Yep
Lucille
02-25-2015, 05:37 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-chris-kyle-verdict-and-the-mistreatment-of-our-veterans/
Writes Ron Paul on his Facebook page:
If Eddie Ray Routh had never served in the military, I’m of the opinion that he would probably not have killed anybody. He would not be imprisoned for life and Chris Kyle would be alive today. Much of the blame should lie with our foreign policy of interventionism and the VA’s faulty reliance on psychotropic drugs for treating the guilt associated with preemptive wars.
Here is a look at the cocktail of dangerous drugs the VA had Routh taking: http://tinyurl.com/pkhze7h
Lucille
02-27-2015, 09:10 AM
Were jurors told about all of the meds he was on? I suppose showing them the movie was more important.
How Dare Ron Paul Keep Telling the Truth?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/how-dare-ron-paul-keep-telling-the-truth/
Now the regime left-liberals at Buzzfeed are outraged that he tells the truth about psychotropic drugs and their side-effect of suicide and murder. Note that BF hides the fact that Ron is an experienced and brilliant physician.
phill4paul
02-27-2015, 09:18 AM
Were jurors told about all of the meds he was on? I suppose showing them the movie was more important.
How Dare Ron Paul Keep Telling the Truth?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/how-dare-ron-paul-keep-telling-the-truth/
I had wondered that myself. Were jurors asked if they, or a family member suffers from PTSD?
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