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Virgil
02-21-2015, 11:48 AM
MONTGOMERY, Alabama — Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), a likely 2016 Republican presidential candidate, fired up a nearly two-thousand-strong crowd with a keynote speech to the Alabama Republican Party’s Winter Dinner on Friday night, right before the White House hopeful makes a swing through South Florida.

Paul was met with several standing ovations throughout the speech, including at the end, in an address filled with many of the major themes he’s likely to pursue assuming he makes a bid for the White House.

“I have good news and bad news: The good news is your government is open,” Paul said. “The bad news is your government is open. You remember there was this shutdown about a year ago and in Washington everyone was clamoring, everyone was worried. I went home to Kentucky and you know what they said: ‘Why in the hell did you open it back up?’”

Paul shifted into discussing how different Washington is from the rest of America.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/21/rand-paul-federal-government-has-become-enormous-monster-with-tentacles-into-every-aspect-of-your-life/

mrsat_98
02-21-2015, 12:07 PM
plus rep all around for this post

Xenliad
02-21-2015, 12:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/QorjSNo.jpg

Warlord
02-21-2015, 12:32 PM
Big government

Brett85
02-21-2015, 12:55 PM
Reading through the comment section, I still see comments like, "I agree with Rand when it comes to reducing the size and scope of government, but I just can't support him because of his foreign policy." Then my response is basically, "if big government here at home doesn't work, then why do you think a big government foreign policy works?"

Warlord
02-21-2015, 01:26 PM
Reading through the comment section, I still see comments like, "I agree with Rand when it comes to reducing the size and scope of government, but I just can't support him because of his foreign policy." Then my response is basically, "if big government here at home doesn't work, then why do you think a big government foreign policy works?"

Take no notice of commenters . .. they're always wrong

AuH20
02-21-2015, 01:53 PM
Reading through the comment section, I still see comments like, "I agree with Rand when it comes to reducing the size and scope of government, but I just can't support him because of his foreign policy." Then my response is basically, "if big government here at home doesn't work, then why do you think a big government foreign policy works?"

I don't think they even know his foreign policy quite honestly. Some are immediately thinking that he has Ron's foreign policy.

TheTexan
02-21-2015, 02:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/QorjSNo.jpg

I was envisioning something more of the Japanese variety.

Brett85
02-21-2015, 02:08 PM
I don't think they even know his foreign policy quite honestly. Some are immediately thinking that he has Ron's foreign policy.

That's true. There was one guy who said that he disagrees with Rand's foreign policy and then outlined his own foreign policy views. His views were basically that we should have a strong military, that Congress should declare war, and that there are times when we have to intervene overseas, but that we shouldn't involve ourselves in every conflict in every corner of the globe. So I told him that his foreign policy wasn't really any different from Rand's foreign policy.

Suzanimal
02-21-2015, 02:24 PM
“I have good news and bad news: The good news is your government is open,” Paul said. “The bad news is your government is open.

Couldn't resist.:)

tangent4ronpaul
02-21-2015, 02:25 PM
I was envisioning something more of the Japanese variety.

Here ya go (NSFW)
Nuked by request.

-t

Ronin Truth
02-21-2015, 06:34 PM
Is this the bedtime story that Ron told you at night.

Suzanimal
02-21-2015, 06:36 PM
Here ya go (NSFW)
http://motherless.com/term/tentacle

-t

http://i.imgur.com/CycCbYem.png

r3volution 3.0
02-22-2015, 01:02 AM
I like the populist tone.


“The thing is is that the media, the liberal media, the people who call us flyover country America, know nothing about us,” Paul said. “They don’t represent us. They don’t have our values. And the thing is is that somehow Washington gets distracted into thinking this is what America is really about. Raise your hand if you’ve spent more than you bring in chronically for the last 10, 20 or 30 years.”

Dianne
02-22-2015, 05:55 AM
Reading through the comment section, I still see comments like, "I agree with Rand when it comes to reducing the size and scope of government, but I just can't support him because of his foreign policy." Then my response is basically, "if big government here at home doesn't work, then why do you think a big government foreign policy works?"

A lot of these dopes think Rand and Ron are the same person.

LawnWake
02-22-2015, 07:35 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CycCbYem.png

This.

A) Because Side Eyeing Chloe is everything that I look for in a hypothetical daughter.

B) I'm not a classy type. I'm not offended nor grossed out by what I saw and I can joke about anything. But for the sake of professionalism, I don't think anyone should be posting such links on a forum dedicated to getting officials elected to higher office. Come on, people.

Danke
02-22-2015, 08:14 AM
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anaconda
02-23-2015, 06:55 AM
“I have good news and bad news: The good news is your government is open,” Paul said. “The bad news is your government is open.

Nice to see that Rand is finally using fresh material after more than a year since the shutdown. Hope he didn't leave out the one about the man coming over the hill singing. :rolleyes:

Vastroc
02-23-2015, 10:46 AM
Can we get rid of the link to the Porn site? I personally don't care about what people want to do on the internet but this is a "Rand/Ron followers are sickos" meme waiting to happen.

tangent4ronpaul
02-24-2015, 03:28 AM
Can we get rid of the link to the Porn site? I personally don't care about what people want to do on the internet but this is a "Rand/Ron followers are sickos" meme waiting to happen.

Nuked by request, but Suz quoted the link and I can't do anything about that.

It's also well established that that kind of Japanese art is a political statement about the US having their fingers in everybody else's business but that since it's presented as art it creates deniability for speech that would otherwise be suppressed. I'm sure Rand is quite aware of this and used the example fully aware of the implications. It is a fairly powerful example that leaves an impression.

There are also a handful of political cartoons from the 1950's that are more G rated but with a similar theme.

As to the sickos meme, this is common and accepted in Japan and there are tons of anime and comic fans in the US that wouldn't blink twice when this sort of thing shows up and most of them are in our primary demographic - 18-30yo's, similar material has shown up in mass market movies and even Saturday morning cartoons for kids, though obviously less sexually themed.

I guess my point is get over yourself. Fundamentalist by chance?

-t

tangent4ronpaul
02-24-2015, 04:41 AM
Did a bit more searching and as far as the tentacle genre it first showed up in a story and illustration from 1814, but really took off starting in 1986 as a way to bypass Japanese censorship laws.

Rand was smart to use it as a example. I knew Anime and Hentai were popular but I had no idea it was THIS popular!:

At the beginning of 2000, "hentai" was listed as the 41st most popular search term of the internet, while "anime" ranked 99th.[10]

[10] "Forget Sex and Drugs. Surfers Are Searching for Rock'n'roll as the Net Finally Grows Up". The Independent (London). 18 January 2000. Retrieved 25 April 2013

-t

tangent4ronpaul
02-24-2015, 05:11 AM
http://historybusiness.org/uploads/posts/2011-03/1300263346_standard-oil-company.jpg

https://keimh3regpeh2umeg.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/octopus-monopoly600.jpg


Rockefeller Global Tentacles Exposed in 1959 by the Soviet Union
http://www.globalresearch.ca/rockefeller-global-tentacles-exposed-in-1959-by-the-soviet-union/5308763

The Rockefeller global oil and banking empire has been the subject of much critical commentary on the Internet. However, the Rockefeller Octopus’s tentacles into every facet of America’s banking, oil (through their control of Standard Oil), military, educational, and foreign policy apparatus was exposed in a monograph prepared by the Soviet Union in 1959. An English translation of the Soviet article prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency’s Foreign Documents Division and dated December 16, 1959, was uncovered from the CIA’s archives. The paper is titled: “About Those Who Are Against Peace.”

The arguments in the Soviet paper generally concur with President Dwight Eisenhower’s Farewell Address to the American people shortly before the inauguration of President Kennedy in January 1961. In his speech, Eisenhower warned the American people about the dangers posed to America’s democracy by the “military-industrial complex.”

There is nothing in the Soviet paper that rings false about the Rockefellers… The oligarchic family has exercised control over America’s foreign policy through their part-sponsorship of the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group – all three shadowy organizations of the world’s elite class who determine monetary, foreign, and military policies behind closed doors. Rockefeller funding of Columbia University and the University of Chicago have helped inflict on the United States some of the most brazen neo-conservatives serving inside and outside of government.

The paper states “In 1957, the Rockefeller oligarchy of American oil industrialists controlled a capital of 61.4 billion dollars. The precise size of the Rockefeller fortune is a state secret in America: the American press noted at one time that special measures are taken so that data concerning the largest fortunes of the U.S. are not published.”

Fifty-three years later, the fortunes of America’s elite are still secret as can be seen with the secrecy surrounding Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s taxes and his offshore financial holdings in such locations as the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, Bermuda, and, according to some reports, the British Virgin Islands.

But the Rockefellers wrote the book on hiding their immense fortune in corporate contrivances and secret bank accounts, an easy task considering they own Chase Manhattan Bank, which is now known as J P Morgan Chase.

The Soviet article also exposed the Rockefellers’ much-ballyhooed “philanthropy” and “work ethic.” The article revealed: “The Rockefellers do not buy yachts worth many millions, like the Vanderbilt magnates; they do not install doorknobs and water fountains of pure gold in their palaces. But love for luxury is not alien to them. The play house where the children of the Rockefellers frolic cost a half million dollars. Bourgeois newspapers, willingly ‘forgetting’ about such ‘trifles,’ relate with tears of sympathy how the children of the billionaires earn pocket money by raising rabbits, cleaning boots, and even destroying flies at ten cents per hundred.”

Today, the successors of the same “bourgeois” media of 1959 prattle on about how Mitt and Ann Romney had it so “tough” after graduating from college. CNN’s Anderson Cooper, the son of billionaire heiress Gloria Vanderbilt, goes on about how tough it was for him to break into the news media, as if his mother had nothing to do with his rapid ascension in the corporate media.

The Soviet paper paints a picture of the Rockefellers that is similar to today’s Romney family: “The people want to know the truth. And the truth about the wealth of the Rockefellers consists of dark deeds, thousands of ruined families, hundreds of thousands of workers in many countries of the world tormented by work beyond their strength. The truth is the concealed history of many wars – it is oil stained with blood.” Of course, today the same can be said about the Rockefeller-linked Bush family, as well as Dick Cheney, George Soros, Rupert Murdoch, and the Rothschild family.

The article identifies the Rockefeller clan members in 1959: “John D. Rockefeller II does not direct his wide empire alone. He has five sons – John D. III, Laurance, David, Winthrop, and Nelson. They are all large capitalists. Each has his role, his department. Only Winthrop has not become famous for anything, unless one counts a scandalous divorce.” In fact, Winthrop became famous later when he was elected governor of Arkansas in 1966. His brother Nelson had served as Governor of New York since 1959.

David is the only survivor among John D. II’s sons and he has been a major player in secret organizations like the Bilderbergs and Trilateralists. David Rockefeller’s off demeanor is described in the Soviet article: “The bourgeois press advertises him as the owner of the best collection of insects in the world, and as possessing extremely gentlemanly manners. But when he enters the office of the bank [Chase Manhattan] and the steel doors close behind his back, the lover of butterflies turns into a greedy seeker after dollars. The hired biographers have every basis for calling him ‘the personification of the virtues of Wall Street.’”

Nelson Rockefeller, who, in 1975, would have become President of the United States had two attempted assassins’ bullets hit their target – President Gerald Ford – is recognized in the Soviet article for his scheming in Latin America, scheming that was supplemented by Richard Nixon and Ford Secretary of State and Rockefeller consigliore Henry Kissinger. The article states: “The Rockefellers have long nourished an irresistible attraction for the countries in Latin America: the provocatory smell of oil reaches them from the South American continent. Therefore, Nelson Rockefeller, who had long been trying to turn South America into his family estate, was at one time placed at the head of the so-called “Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.”

The article quotes the left-wing newspaper the Daily Compass, which once published the muckraking columns of investigative journalist I. F. Stone, in describing the Rockefellers’ stranglehold over the U.S. State Department: “The policy of the State Department is born in the offices of Standard Oil. From there it is transmitted to the Department of Defense, where the heads of the Army and Navy approve it. When this policy gets to the State Department, it becomes the policy of the government and is supposed to be confirmed by Congress quickly and without any changes whatever. When an order for laws designed to protect the interests of the oil kings comes from the Rockefeller dynasty itself, the entire Congress – from the small to the great – comes to ‘attention’ and does what the bosses order it to do.”

Considering the recent U.S. and NATO intervention in Libya and Syria, countries where oil is key, little has changed in how U.S. foreign and war policy is manufactured.

The Rockefellers ties to the CIA and Israel’s Mossad are also laid out in the Soviet monograph. The article reveals that the Rockefellers supplied a U.S. intelligence “cut out” – the School of Eastern Studies in Jerusalem – with money from the Arabian-American oil company (ARAMCO). The school, which operated with the full knowledge of the Mossad, trained American officers to conduct espionage throughout the Middle East.

There was a time when the U.S. government and the corporate (bourgeois) press dismissed such articles as the Soviet monograph on the Rockefellers as pure propaganda. In retrospect, the Soviet authors of the article understood in 1959 what many Americans have come late to fathoming: that the United States is being destroyed by a mega-wealthy elite intent on preying on the United States like a swarm of locusts.

-t

Vastroc
02-24-2015, 10:50 AM
Nuked by request, but Suz quoted the link and I can't do anything about that.

It's also well established that that kind of Japanese art is a political statement about the US having their fingers in everybody else's business but that since it's presented as art it creates deniability for speech that would otherwise be suppressed. I'm sure Rand is quite aware of this and used the example fully aware of the implications. It is a fairly powerful example that leaves an impression.

There are also a handful of political cartoons from the 1950's that are more G rated but with a similar theme.

As to the sickos meme, this is common and accepted in Japan and there are tons of anime and comic fans in the US that wouldn't blink twice when this sort of thing shows up and most of them are in our primary demographic - 18-30yo's, similar material has shown up in mass market movies and even Saturday morning cartoons for kids, though obviously less sexually themed.

I guess my point is get over yourself. Fundamentalist by chance?

-t

I am well aware of the historical context of Japanese tentacle porn. I seriously doubt Rand was making a reference to hentai. The concept of a multi-armed monster (Govt or business) reaching out into every aspect of people's lives is common and well understood.

I have no need to "get over" myself as I clearly stated I don't care what people want to watch on the internet. It is seriously naïve to believe tentacle porn links on a site dedicated to Rand/Ron is a good idea.

I guess my point is get over yourself. Lacking any Common Sense by chance?

tangent4ronpaul
02-25-2015, 06:36 AM
Hay 42 post "wonder"... Go F yourself. You had an objection to the link, I nuked it. I posted it in response to another user saying that that was what they made them think about. Suz has not. I am personally not into Japanese "Tentacle" porn, but I find it's history and meaning fascinating.

I do not believe you know anything about it's history.

-t