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orenbus
02-21-2015, 07:12 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/21/isis-army-7-footers-experts-say-video-copt-beheadings-manipulated/

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/beheadpic1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


Video of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians being marched along a Libyan beach before being beheaded by black-clad members of ISIS is hard for any civilized person to watch, but experts who made it through the sickening, five-minute clip told FoxNews.com Friday they came to the same conclusion: The footage was faked.

No one holds out hope the victims, mostly poor fishermen who had gone to Libya to scratch out a living, are still alive. But several anomalies in the video, which was posted online Feb. 15, indicated to trained eyes that at least some of the production was done on "green screen" with background added later, perhaps to disguise the real location of the atrocity. A day after the clip went viral, Egyptian warplanes struck hard at an eastern port city near Tripoli, where the video appeared to have been shot.

“The Islamic State’s manipulation of their high-production videos has become commonplace,” said Veryan Khan, editorial director of the Florida-based Terrorism Research & Analysis Consortium. The murders likely took place in a studio, and the background image shown was likely from another location, the Bay in Sirte, a part of the Mediterranean Sea on the northern coast of Libya, according to Khan. There are several technical mistakes in the video that show it was manipulated, she said.

The most obvious, Khan said, is the speaker, “Jihad Joseph” is much larger than the sea in both the close up and wide shots, and his head is bizarrely out of proportion, meaning he was filmed indoors and the sea added behind him, Khan said. In addition, the jihadists featured in the film look to be more than 7 feet tall, towering as much as two feet above their victims.

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

Hollywood horror film director Mary Lambert, who among her many film credits directed Pet Cemetery, analyzed the film for FoxNews.com and quickly concluded Khan was correct.

“The shot that seems really tampered with is the one with the really tall Jihadists and the dwarf Christians,” said Lambert, also a professor at New York University's vaunted film school. “The close-ups of Jihadists on the beach are most likely green screen.”

Other technical giveaways: The sound of the ocean is likely a well-known audio track. Even more bizarre, the stream of blood in the ocean at the end of the video, and during the beheading of the final victim, is most likely not real. TRAC’s forensic analyst said turning the sea red is the “cheapest and easiest post-production tool” and “can even be achieved with a cell phone.” But doing it in the manner portrayed in the video is actually impossible, Khan said.

The sea turning red is obviously “FX”, Lambert agreed, with special computer effects used.

“I think that in the opening shot all the figures might be animated. They never had more than six men on the beach,” Lambert said.

The directors of the video used animation and “rotoscoping” to use the six figures like a rubber stamp in the marching sequence and also in the kneeling sequence, Lambert said.

Rotoscoping is a visual effect where the image is manually removed from a background in a live action video, and then composited on a different background, usually with green screens and chroma key.

“The weird jump-cut editing in the opening is a way to conceal this,” Lambert said.

There are shots that pan the prisoners on the beach and tilt down to the kneeling that look real to Lambert, although she added they “might have been enhanced in some way.”

The most amateur mistake, according to Khan’s forensic analyst, is getting the perspective along the shoreline all wrong.

“What is supposed to be the seashore is, in reality, a bay as determined by the tide, rocks, and wave action. Looking at the two big sets of footprints in the sand shown at a 90- degree angle, neither set of footprints can be the hostages or the hostage takers. Had this been a seaside shot, the sand would have been much softer and the victims’ footprints would have sunk much deeper into the sand,” the forensic analyst reports.

Another mistake was made during the beheading of the final victim, Khan said.

“Not only did it lack the correct blood pulsation for decapitation, but seems to have had the blood ‘faked’ with cornstarch,” Khan said.

As human blood oxygenates, it darkens, Khan said, adding because this blood did not, it exposes the possibility that the beheadings were not done at the same time, despite ISIS’s claims.

Why all the bizarre video manipulation?

“Islamic State has been revolutionary in using the green screen technique, most likely to limit exposure to drones [and] satellite [locating of] their operations,” Khan said. “The producer probably required that only the cameraman and his assistant be present for the outdoor frames. Later, in post production, the editors dropped in the executions.”

The Islamic State is notorious for its high-quality productions of horrific murders such as children learning to execute victims, suspected gays being thrown from buildings and the burning alive of Jordanian air force pilot Moath al-Kasasbeh, but this video was produced by a much less talented ISIS crew, Khan said.

FoxNews.com provided TRAC's analysis to the CIA, where a spokesperson said the matter was under review. The agency is among the intelligence bureaus already pouring over the footage to determine the identity of “Jihad Joseph,” who leads the mass beheading depicted on the video and who some have speculated may be an American.

Egyptian government officials did not respond to requests for comment, but Edward Yeranian, an Egypt-based radio correspondent for Voice of America and other news agencies, said Egyptian analysts are also openly skeptical about the video's authenticity.

“Even the number of people beheaded is still in dispute,” Yeranian said.

Natural Citizen
02-21-2015, 07:28 AM
A day after the clip went viral, Egyptian warplanes struck hard at an eastern port city near Tripoli, where the video appeared to have been shot.

Dang. That kind of sucks if the video was actually just a green screen the whole time. What if someone was just out for a morning stroll with their ipod or something at an eastern port city near Tripoli and then BADDDDDOW...they done got blowed up fer nothing? You know? :eek:

Sola_Fide
02-21-2015, 08:23 AM
What a bunch of animals that America has created.

jmdrake
02-21-2015, 09:00 AM
This is interesting:

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

The perspective is something several Saudi Arabians noted in their tweets about the video, questioning whether the jihadists were a part of some sort of special forces unit since they were so large.

idiom
02-21-2015, 12:15 PM
No one holds out hope the victims, mostly poor fishermen who had gone to Libya to scratch out a living, are still alive.

Just in case anyone thinks that propaganda videos being staged means ISIS is all holograms...

acptulsa
02-21-2015, 12:30 PM
Well, they finally got silly enough that even the mainstream media is forced to admit that they're silly as hell. I guess that counts as progress.

I wonder if anyone has figured out where they're buying the Leavenworth Surplus orange jumpsuits yet?

Zippyjuan
02-21-2015, 01:01 PM
The first guy or two does show a good height difference but most of the rest were about the same height. Still from the video:

http://static01.********/images/2015/02/16/world/ISIS/ISIS-articleLarge.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/middleeast/islamic-state-video-beheadings-of-21-egyptian-christians.html?_r=0

Using wide angle lenses can cause distortions and shooting from a low angle can make things closer to the camera seem bigger than those farther away too.

Also note that these were Egyptians and the average Egyptian male is only 5' 7". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world

Zippyjuan
02-21-2015, 01:01 PM
double post.

Uriel999
02-21-2015, 01:18 PM
The first guy or two does show a good height difference but most of the rest were about the same height. Still from the video:

http://static01.********/images/2015/02/16/world/ISIS/ISIS-articleLarge.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/middleeast/islamic-state-video-beheadings-of-21-egyptian-christians.html?_r=0

Using wide angle lenses can cause distortions and shooting from a low angle can make things closer to the camera seem bigger than those farther away too.

Also note that these were Egyptians and the average Egyptian male is only 5' 7". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world

But But But, don't you know it is really a conspiracy and this video is completely fake just like the moon landings.

enhanced_deficit
02-21-2015, 01:22 PM
The first guy or two does show a good height difference but most of the rest were about the same height. Still from the video:

http://static01.********/images/2015/02/16/world/ISIS/ISIS-articleLarge.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/middleeast/islamic-state-video-beheadings-of-21-egyptian-christians.html?_r=0



Credit goes to ex Israeli soldier who runs "SITE", this looks real.

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2007/09/06/imagex-large.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=7c2ttI4b9vM5kM&tbnid=eE7KwoLodC1FSM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2r2h-documents.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F09%2F2007-osama-bin-laden-video-watch-it.html&ei=s1sKVN_VBc2VgwS2y4KoAg&bvm=bv.74649129,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNE3xcsrsVrWZ9ZDryPMs33stmHn5Q&ust=1410051368485783)


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acptulsa
02-21-2015, 01:22 PM
Using wide angle lenses can cause distortions and shooting from a low angle can make things closer to the camera seem bigger than those farther away too.

Which of those first two is farther from the camera? What shot is from a low angle? If that was shot with a wide angle lens, why is everything in focus and why is there a little bit of the compression you get from a telephoto lens? And how is someone a foot and a half taller than someone else who is five seven not seven feet tall?

Zippyjuan
02-21-2015, 02:14 PM
Why are the rest about the same size? How tall is the one in orange? Are the other prisoners seven feet tall? Note also the ground. The beach is sloped and the prisoners are lower than their guards. That is adding a few inches too.

This is 7' 1" Richard Keil.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/a2VEKEOlXu6WICJI5LE1vg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTEyMjk7aWw9cGxhbmU7cH lvZmY9MDtxPTc1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/1d3b4b7cd783c53b67e83e87203f5e8d61f47357.jpg
http://news.yahoo.com/007-jaws-villain-richard-kiel-dies-aged-74-022542803.html

unconsious767
02-21-2015, 02:22 PM
OMG they're all clones of bin laden under those hoodz. We're fukt

Zippyjuan
02-21-2015, 02:25 PM
Do the guys in black in this photo look like they are a foot and a half taller than the guys on their knees in front of them?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTE5j2UwgytphROG_cLFOaQ17MCmq_16 Aqr297QZYVRb0dNgYdgCw

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cYbUUt77oEo/0.jpg