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Suzanimal
02-20-2015, 05:43 PM
If you want to understand why the government freaked out when a $400 remote-controlled quadcopter landed on the White House grounds last week, you need to look four miles away, to a small briefing room in Arlington, Virginia. There, just 10 days earlier, officials from the US military, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FAA gathered for a DHS “summit” on a danger that had been consuming them privately for years: the potential use of hobbyist drones as weapons of terror or assassination.

The conference was open to civilians, but explicitly closed to the press. One attendee described it as an eye-opener. The officials played videos of low-cost drones firing semi-automatic weapons, revealed that Syrian rebels are importing consumer-grade drones to launch attacks, and flashed photos from an exercise that pitted $5,000 worth of drones against a convoy of armored vehicles. (The drones won.) But the most striking visual aid was on an exhibit table outside the auditorium, where a buffet of low-cost drones had been converted into simulated flying bombs. One quadcopter, strapped to 3 pounds of inert explosive, was a DJI Phantom 2, a newer version of the very drone that would land at the White House the next week.

Attendee Daniel Herbert snapped a photo and posted it to his website along with detailed notes from the conference. The day after the White House incident, he says, DHS phoned him and politely asked him to remove the entire post. He complied. “I’m not going to be the one to challenge Homeland Security and cause more contention,” says Herbert, who runs a small drone shop in Delaware called Skygear Solutions.

The White House drone, of course, wasn’t packing an explosive and wasn’t piloted by a terrorist—just a Washingtonian who lost control of the device while playing around in the wee hours. But the gentle censorship directed at Herbert illustrates how serious the issue is to counterterrorism officials.

A Drone Maker Takes Decisive Action
The Phantom line of consumer drones made by China-based DJI figures prominently in the government’s attack scenarios. That’s not because there’s anything sinister about DJI or the Phantom—in fact, just the opposite. The Phantom is the iPod of drones, cheap, easy to use, and as popular with casual and first-time fliers as with experienced radio control enthusiasts.

With all the attention surrounding the White House landing, DJI felt it had to take action. So last Thursday it pushed a “mandatory firmware update” for its Phantom 2 that would prevent the drone from flying in a 15.5 mile radius of the White House. So far it’s the only drone-maker installing what’s known as GPS geofencing

The technique is not new to DJI. The company first added no-fly zones to its firmware in April of last year to deter newbie pilots from zipping into the restricted airspace over airports, where they might interfere with departing and arriving aircraft. If a Phantom 2 pilot flies within five miles of a major airport’s no fly zone, the drone’s maximum altitude begins to taper. At 1.5 miles away, it lands and refuses to take off again. Municipal airports are protected by smaller zones, also programmed into the drones’ firmware.

For DJI, airport no-fly zones were a response to the growing popularity of the Phantom 2 and perhaps a hedge against the constant threat of increased regulation. “We started seeing the community of pilots grow,” says spokesman Michael Perry, and many users have no idea where they can and can’t legally fly the drone. “The guy in the White House incident, I’m pretty sure he didn’t know that flying in downtown DC is illegal.” Rather than put the onus on every user to learn local air traffic zoning rules, DJI translated them into code, and added a little buffer zone of its own for added safety.

The White House geofence is only the second one that isn’t centered on an airport, according to Perry—the first was Tiananmen Square. It won’t be the last. Now that the company has perfected the ability to erect geofences at will, the sky’s the limit—or, more accurately, the skies are limited. DJI is preparing an update that will increase the number of airport no fly zones from 710 to 10,000, and prevent users from flying across some national borders—a reaction to the recent discovery that drug smugglers are trying to use drones to fly small loads of meth from Mexico into the US.

‘I Want to Fly Wherever the Heck I Want’
This geofencing has critics, including hobbyists chagrined to find their favorite flying spot suddenly encompassed by a DJI no-fly zones. “I live just inside a red zone and find it quite offensive that a company would attempt to restrict any potential usage in/around my own house,” one user wrote in response to the first geofencing update last April.

“One could theorize that every zone anywhere could be a restricted zone,” wrote another. “Thank you but no thank you. If I spend thousands of dollars then I want to fly wherever the heck I want as long as it is under 400ft and 500ft away from airports.”

“This is NOT something users want,” another critic added. “I have a good relationship with my local airports and have worked with every local tower or control center. I get clearance to fly and they have been great, but this ‘update’ takes away my control.”

Ryan Calo, a University of Washingtonlaw professor who studies robots and the law, traces the resistance to two sources. “One is a complaint about restricting innovation. The second one says you should own your own stuff, and it’s a liberty issue: corporate verses individual control and autonomy,” Calo says. “When I purchase something I own it, and when someone else controls what I own, it will be serving someone else’s interest, not mine.”

DJI, in other words, has flown into one a core discontent of the Internet age. Technology’s no-fly zones already are everywhere. Lexmark printers and Keurig coffee makers have been programmed to reject third-party ink cartridges and coffee pods. Auto dealers are beginning to install remote-control immobilizers in cars sold to sub-prime borrowers, so they can shut down a driver who’s delinquent with an auto payment (the technology already has resulted in a 100-vehicle automotive hack attack.) In 2009, some Kindle owners discovered Amazon has the power to remotely delete the book they’re reading, after the company purged George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm from e-book readers, an action Jeff Bezos later apologized for .

“The fate of small drone flights over DC may seem like a little thing—a spat worked out among private players,” wrote EFF’s Parker Higgins in a blog post Monday. “But these small battles shape the notion of what it means to own something and illustrate the growing control of manufacturers over user conduct.”

Geofencing Won’t Prevent Terrorism
While alarming to some, DJI’s paternal interference in its customers’ flight plans probably will reduce unintentional incidents like last week’s White House landing. But it certainly won’t prevent the scenario feared by official Washington: an attacker looking to weaponize a drone. For one thing, hardcore drone hobbyists tend to be tinkerers, and sooner or later their rumbling will translate into published firmware hacks and workarounds anyone can use.

“Right now there doesn’t exist any hacks to remove the geofencing or downgrade the firmware,” says Herbert. “I’m sure they’re coming. People will figure it out eventually.”

But, he notes, drone fliers who don’t want geofencing have many options. DJI’s mandatory update only affects the Phantom 2 line—ironically, the older Phantom 1 that landed at the White House isn’t included. And Phantom 2 owners will receive the mandatory update only when they link their drone to their Internet-connected PC or Mac. And if you really want to exercise your own judgment when flying, DJI says you can simply buy from a competitor.

“We do provide different layers of security to make it difficult to hack and get around,” says DJI’s Perry. But for those determined to avoid geofencing, “there’s an easy way to do that, which is to buy another quad-copter.”

That may be true for now, but it’s easy to see lawmakers and regulators jumping on DJI’s mandatory update as an easy cure, and mandating geofencing industrywide. When that happens, you can expect that circumventing drone firmware, for any reason, will become illegal, the same way hacking your car’s programming is illegal. One thing is for certain: Nobody willing to strap a bomb to a toy drone will be deterred.

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/white-house-drone/

Carson
02-20-2015, 06:08 PM
It really seems to boil down to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, does it not?

Whether you believe in God or not the guide lines and warnings in the bible still seem to work. Some just seem to help people try to hold by standards that will allow you to live with piece of mind.

RonPaulIsGreat
02-23-2015, 05:50 AM
Ha, one of the first uses of cheap drones I thought of was the drug smuggling over the border, surprised it took so long.

Just imagine what it'll be like if batteries tech advances, and solar panels get more efficient, coupled with new light weight materials. It'll just mean more autonomous drone subs, planes, and land vehicles.

So, a 300%+ markup is achieved by moving the drugs across the border. If the cost for a drone carrying 1 pound costs a 1000 bucks, and that pound is worth 5,000 in mexico and worth 15,000 in the us.

Well, it doesn't take a math wizard to see that you can lose a lot of drones and still rake in the cash.

Better batteries, just would mean more range and thus wider selection of end points, lighter/stronger material for frames means the same. flexible cheap high efficiency solar panels, would mean long range custom made partially submersible mini boats could in theory ship long distances over a long period.

Even if you lose a large percentage of the shipments it doesn't matter, you could in theory, send 5000 drones by air and sea to different locations.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a drone frame out of the actual drug, that could be chemically separated upon arrival. Then you'd just have the motors computer boards, and batteries to conveniently take back across the border for the next trip, or not, you could just trash them I guess, it's not like you'd need to watch the expenses with 300%+ profit margins. Cheech & Chong 2015.

Edited to add.
Also, with better drones than at present, you could for cheap with explosives of course, render most of the current military apparatus world wide useless.

The US military is largely going to be useless here shortly. The future is going to see a swarm of a 1000 small drones, just swarm a enemy position, Artillery is useless, bullets are useless, the tiny drones, will just blow themselves up when they reach the enemy. The others will just go in a tree when the mission is over and power down, and recharge until a new target is assigned. The only limiter is cost and software, and like all things tech that drops every single year like clock work.

I'm guessing the military solution, will be "tanks" outfitted with their own drone swarm protectors/killers, that mostly function as a rolling fast recharge station.

Drone Wars!!

jmdrake
02-23-2015, 06:39 AM
Interesting "firmware update." I bet eventually the firmware update will cause drones to squawk their location to the FAA/NSA/DHS and have a backdoor takeover code.

paleocon1
02-23-2015, 07:11 AM
Why for the same reasons that the State hates and fears armed (with quality firearms) Citizens.

AuH20
02-23-2015, 09:14 AM
If you're not doing anything illegal, then why worry?

jmdrake
02-23-2015, 09:18 AM
If you're not doing anything illegal, then why worry?

Are you talking abut the government or the drone owners?

jmdrake
02-23-2015, 09:19 AM
Why for the same reasons that the State hates and fears armed (with quality firearms) Citizens.

Yeah. Drones could be an equalizer. There's no way a private citizen could build the equivalent of an F-16 let alone an F22. But the equivalent of a predator? That's within the realm of the possible.

paleocon1
02-23-2015, 09:36 AM
Yeah. Drones could be an equalizer. There's no way a private citizen could build the equivalent of an F-16 let alone an F22. But the equivalent of a predator? That's within the realm of the possible.

Predator???? Probably not. The thing is as complex as most general aviation aircraft. BUT........predator is also overly complex by a large factor for most missions it will even be put to. A very capable drone can be built which uses mostly 3D printing for a fuselage, off the shelf components for guidance, numerous small readily available gasoline engines for power. Skills required? A basic mechanical engineering education, good with your hands, a garage or workshop and a few standard textbooks/references.

jbauer
02-23-2015, 09:58 AM
An interesting problem. How do you protect a person or even yourself from a drone attack. You cannot possibly keep an eye on the sky all the time.

acptulsa
02-23-2015, 10:03 AM
Well, I'd say the government is now terrified of radio controlled aircraft because they taught us what else can be done with them. But that, I think, isn't it. I think they finally figured out that these things will allow us to take pictures behind their privacy fences topped with razor wire. And we can afford an RC aircraft with a simple camera on it, too.

Matt Collins
02-23-2015, 10:04 AM
Interesting "firmware update." I bet eventually the firmware update will cause drones to squawk their location to the FAA/NSA/DHS and have a backdoor takeover code.
Not if it's open source :D

jmdrake
02-23-2015, 10:21 AM
Predator???? Probably not. The thing is as complex as most general aviation aircraft. BUT........predator is also overly complex by a large factor for most missions it will even be put to. A very capable drone can be built which uses mostly 3D printing for a fuselage, off the shelf components for guidance, numerous small readily available gasoline engines for power. Skills required? A basic mechanical engineering education, good with your hands, a garage or workshop and a few standard textbooks/references.

Private citizens build general aviation aircraft all the time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF08r-9yH3M

The person with the capability of building a jet aircraft that can carry a person can build the equivalent of a predator.


I bet this guy could build a predator.

http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAp_hJJlkBo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x65pt0fnQDo

But I agree with your point that much cheaper drones able to carry out similar missions can be built.

jmdrake
02-23-2015, 10:23 AM
Not if it's open source :D

True. And if you're hardcore you can build your own cell phone too. Just that most folks aren't going to do that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaiNsFhtI8

AuH20
02-23-2015, 10:28 AM
Are you talking abut the government or the drone owners?

the government.

Ronin Truth
02-23-2015, 11:01 AM
Hobbyist Hell Fire missiles?

kpitcher
02-23-2015, 04:05 PM
Vernor Vinge wrote a good book in 2006 that included UPS using disposable, self flying drones that delivered to a person, identified by their tech. A big cannon shot the drones in the air and it'd fly to you anywhere in the city. It also had autonomous drone cars you could have pick you up wherever. Has a lot of augmented reality also which I know google, facebook and microsoft are all working on.

Forget amazon's delivery drones, the UPS delivery ones are a neat idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End

Matt Collins
02-23-2015, 06:40 PM
True. And if you're hardcore you can build your own cell phone too. Just that most folks aren't going to do that.

Have you heard of Google's Project Ara? it is a modular cell phone:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c

paleocon1
02-24-2015, 10:10 AM
Private citizens build general aviation aircraft all the time.

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The person with the capability of building a jet aircraft that can carry a person can build the equivalent of a predator.


I bet this guy could build a predator.

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It is one thing to hands on build/assemble the airframe- quite ANOTHER to design the airframe, power plant and mechanical/electronics systems (though much can be had C.O.S. and integrated if one has the readily available skills) Any random dozen USA university engineering seniors have that capability. Sadly though many of them just don't have the very important hands on abilities of past generations. The result I expect of too many teen video games and not enough learn by doing overhaul of junker auto engines.