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jmdrake
02-19-2015, 08:59 AM
Well it is between "consenting adults." It will be interesting to see how this plays out. And I have to hand it to these ladies lawyers. Calling prostitution "interactive pornography" and oral sex "performance art" is quite inventive.

http://drudgereport.com.co/prostitution-temporarily-legalized-in-new-york-following-court-ruling/
Prostitution is currently legal in the State of New York, without the regulations and restrictions that Nevada has, after a federal judge ruled in favor of a “working girl” who claimed her oral sex technique was an act of performance art for which she deserved to be compensated, while a second woman described her acts as “interactive pornography,” which makes her not a prostitute, but an “actress.”

The two women, Elizabeth Benson and Deborah Brown, were arrested last July in Staten Island, New York after police had caught them “entertaining clients” in cars parked near one another. When NYPD booked the women, they both claimed that their arrests were violations of their first amendment rights, as they weren’t engaging in prostitution, but art.



Benson and Brown, defended in court in October 2014 by a small team of lawyers working pro bono, were found guilty of solicitation, prostitution, and public lewdness and were sentenced to 14 months imprisonment. But their legal team successfully managed to win them an appeal, and on Tuesday, February 17th, a judge ruled for their immediate release from prison… while also temporarily legalizing prostitution in New York State, so long as the prostitute can explain how their work constitutes art.

“Prostitutes are protected by the same rights afforded to corporations under the first amendment, and have an even stronger case when their physical acts are contributions toward public art,” says Judge Kevin Knowles. “That they accept payment in no way invalidates the quality of their work or the statement they’re making through artistic expression.”

Judge Knowles went on to compare the case to Citizens United. “The Supreme Court ruled that money equals free speech. That corporations hold the same personhood rights as an individual. If that’s true, I don’t see how our society can criminalize or even condemn prostitution. I don’t care how gifted Ms. Benson or Ms. Brown are, they aren’t going to screw even one one-thousandth as many people in a year as Time Warner Cable does in an hour. What that corporation does constitutes a bigger health threat and more of a public menace than anything these prostitutes do. I’m starting to wonder who the real prostitutes even are.”

New York State is hoping to appeal Knowles’ decision with the Supreme Court, though Benson and Brown have already been released from jail. Brown says she expects to be back to work — “making interactive pornographic plays” — as early as Thursday.

phill4paul
02-19-2015, 09:13 AM
I don’t care how gifted Ms. Benson or Ms. Brown are, they aren’t going to screw even one one-thousandth as many people in a year as Time Warner Cable does in an hour.

^^^Quote of the day!

specsaregood
02-19-2015, 09:16 AM
I don’t care how gifted Ms. Benson or Ms. Brown are, they aren’t going to screw even one one-thousandth as many people in a year as Time Warner Cable does in an hour.
^^^Quote of the day!

Really? I thought that part weakened his argument/ruling.

I'd prefer something like this:

I don’t care how gifted Ms. Benson or Ms. Brown are, they aren’t going to screw even one one-thousandth as many people in a year as bad judges, bad prosecutors, bad politicians and bad bureaucrats do every single day.

ZENemy
02-19-2015, 09:20 AM
lol, we live in a "Free" country where we dont even own our own bodies.








HAHAHHAHAHAAHAAHAHA....NO!

erowe1
02-19-2015, 09:26 AM
It is kinda weird that getting paid to have sex in a video would be legal while prostitution wouldn't.

jmdrake
02-19-2015, 09:28 AM
lol, we live in a "Free" country where we dont even own our own bodies.








HAHAHHAHAHAAHAAHAHA....NO!

Owning your own body only means you can kill another body growing in side it. But you can't smoke, drink, use illicit drugs, pay for sex, marry two people at the same time, eat trans fat, not wear a seatbelt or helmet or do any of a myriad of other things to your own body without government permission. Oh, you can change the gender of your body, and eventually that will be covered under Obamacare.

Ronin Truth
02-19-2015, 09:38 AM
Are they running a special on STDs?

William Tell
02-19-2015, 09:42 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3b/3b4866d9104cfce6019f6abf30f882e8134fcd4ecf7183f062 4800f1fa21111c.jpg

phill4paul
02-19-2015, 09:52 AM
Really? I thought that part weakened his argument/ruling.

I'd prefer something like this:

I don’t care how gifted Ms. Benson or Ms. Brown are, they aren’t going to screw even one one-thousandth as many people in a year as bad judges, bad prosecutors, bad politicians and bad bureaucrats do every single day.

Better!

JK/SEA
02-19-2015, 09:53 AM
the question is...why do we need prostitutes..?

tod evans
02-19-2015, 10:41 AM
the question is...why do we need prostitutes..?

Waiting on somebody to blame the "need" on men...........

limequat
02-19-2015, 10:45 AM
It is kinda weird that getting paid to have sex in a video would be legal while prostitution wouldn't.

Good point. From here forward, couldn't a prostitute merely fire up a go-pro and insist that she's filming a movie? Totally legal, right?

JK/SEA
02-19-2015, 10:48 AM
Good point. From here forward, couldn't a prostitute merely fire up a go-pro and insist that she's filming a movie? Totally legal, right?

a written contract would be needed.

Dr.3D
02-19-2015, 10:51 AM
As if buying dinner and a movie isn't paying for sex. :p

JK/SEA
02-19-2015, 11:03 AM
As if buying dinner and a movie isn't paying for sex. :p

to be fair, whats 'expected' can be problematic, because a woman shouldn't be made to feel she has to spread her legs because you bought her a Big Mac, and a large Coke.

Dr.3D
02-19-2015, 11:06 AM
to be fair, whats 'expected' can be problematic, because a woman shouldn't be made to feel she has to spread her legs because you bought her a Big Mac, and a large Coke.
Those who don't, just want to be paid more. Perhaps on the third date she will be satisfied that you have paid enough.

Philhelm
02-19-2015, 11:31 AM
to be fair, whats 'expected' can be problematic, because a woman shouldn't be made to feel she has to spread her legs because you bought her a Big Mac, and a large Coke.

Then she should buy her own Big Mac and large Coke (is this a fat woman we're talking about...?).

JK/SEA
02-19-2015, 11:35 AM
Those who don't, just want to be paid more. Perhaps on the third date she will be satisfied that you have paid enough.

good luck.

JK/SEA
02-19-2015, 11:35 AM
Then she should buy her own Big Mac and large Coke (is this a fat woman we're talking about...?).

good luck.

Dr.3D
02-19-2015, 11:38 AM
Then she should buy her own Big Mac and large Coke (is this a fat woman we're talking about...?).
Yeah, maybe you should have bought a bale of hay instead.

jmdrake
02-19-2015, 11:39 AM
the question is...why do we need prostitutes..?

RPF paging Dannno! RPF paging Dannno!

juleswin
02-19-2015, 11:41 AM
Waiting on somebody to blame the "need" on men...........

Its sorta like blaming the invention of restaurants on hungry and/or lazy people who can't and/or too busy to cook. Oh wait, that's right, they are to blame for restaurants.

So yea, 95% of the reason for prostitutes existing is because of horny men.

jmdrake
02-19-2015, 11:43 AM
Then she should buy her own Big Mac and large Coke (is this a fat woman we're talking about...?).

You jest but.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jl6o0ChPUc

Dr.3D
02-19-2015, 11:46 AM
You jest but.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jl6o0ChPUc
Well, look at her fingernails, she couldn't cook even if she was starving to death.

puppetmaster
02-19-2015, 11:53 AM
We are all actors on the big stage.

jmdrake
02-19-2015, 12:10 PM
We are all actors on the big stage.

True. And we are all clients of prostitutes. We pay politicians to screw us.

dannno
02-19-2015, 12:31 PM
Its sorta like blaming the invention of restaurants on hungry and/or lazy people who can't and/or too busy to cook. Oh wait, that's right, they are to blame for restaurants.

So yea, 95% of the reason for prostitutes existing is because of horny men.

Well you can't blame a person for getting hungry and you can't blame men for being horny....

You CAN 'blame' a person for not finding and preparing their own food, but if the reason they aren't doing so is because they are busy PROVIDING OTHER TYPES OF GOODS AND SERVICES to the community to enjoy in trade for money, then you can't exactly blame them for spending that money at a restaurant.

Where your analogy really falls apart is that whereas a man or woman has the physical ability to gather food and cook for themselves, a man does not have the ability to get sex without a woman as masturbation is a poor unfulfilling short term solution to finding sex. So is it the man's fault no 'restaurants' are open or he doesn't have a girlfriend/wife to 'cook' for him? I guess it depends. What do women want in a sexual partner? An alpha male stud. So if every man was an alpha male stud, then I suppose we could speculate women would be having sex with a broader segment of the population, more often. However, what would a society like that be like? Ultra-aggressive? More gang or tribal type warring? I mean, right now in many modern societies most wars are confined to government provocation.

So women like to blame men for the aggression and violence in society, and then they blame men when they can't get laid. This proves that women as a whole, and often individually, don't have any clue on earth wtf they want.

Ronin Truth
02-19-2015, 12:38 PM
And you can't blame the folks for just trying to peacefully make a buck addressing market demands by using their natural resources, talents and skills.

otherone
02-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Benson and Brown, defended in court in October 2014 by a small team of lawyers working pro bono

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607995974624153365&pid=15.1&P=0

presence
02-19-2015, 01:56 PM
Its about damn time the statists realized that if porn is legal, then so is prostitution.


NO VICTIM = NO CRIME

satchelmcqueen
02-19-2015, 05:22 PM
Well you can't blame a person for getting hungry and you can't blame men for being horny....

You CAN 'blame' a person for not finding and preparing their own food, but if the reason they aren't doing so is because they are busy PROVIDING OTHER TYPES OF GOODS AND SERVICES to the community to enjoy in trade for money, then you can't exactly blame them for spending that money at a restaurant.

Where your analogy really falls apart is that whereas a man or woman has the physical ability to gather food and cook for themselves, a man does not have the ability to get sex without a woman as masturbation is a poor unfulfilling short term solution to finding sex. So is it the man's fault no 'restaurants' are open or he doesn't have a girlfriend/wife to 'cook' for him? I guess it depends. What do women want in a sexual partner? An alpha male stud. So if every man was an alpha male stud, then I suppose we could speculate women would be having sex with a broader segment of the population, more often. However, what would a society like that be like? Ultra-aggressive? More gang or tribal type warring? I mean, right now in many modern societies most wars are confined to government provocation.

So women like to blame men for the aggression and violence in society, and then they blame men when they can't get laid. This proves that women as a whole, and often individually, don't have any clue on earth wtf they want.
god damn straight brother!! +100000000000000000

satchelmcqueen
02-19-2015, 05:25 PM
the question is...why do we need prostitutes..?

heres a list.

boredom
horny
freedom of choice
boring gf
boring wife
boring husband
boring bf
loneliness
just because

William Tell
02-19-2015, 05:26 PM
RPF paging Dannno! RPF paging Dannno!

Why'd you have to do that?

Pericles
02-19-2015, 05:28 PM
to be fair, whats 'expected' can be problematic, because a woman shouldn't be made to feel she has to spread her legs because you bought her a Big Mac, and a large Coke.
Or, give her father a couple of camels and she is yours.

kpitcher
02-20-2015, 12:23 AM
It is kinda weird that getting paid to have sex in a video would be legal while prostitution wouldn't.
I was always surprised there aren't video production companies that allow some regular person, call them John, to be in adult films anytime they wanted.

BrooklynZoo
02-20-2015, 09:26 AM
You guys do realize that the article in the OP is satire, right?

jmdrake
02-20-2015, 09:37 AM
Why'd you have to do that?

Cause he's RPF's resident deviant sexpert. :D And cause he's always talking about the "need" for prostitution.

jmdrake
02-20-2015, 09:52 AM
You guys do realize that the article in the OP is satire, right?

I'm ashamed to say I did not. Just looked up the original source for the story.

http://nationalreport.net/prostitution-temporarily-legalized-new-york-following-court-ruling/
http://nationalreport.net/

If you read their story for "black history month" it's clear that it's a spoof site. Caution. NSFW!

:o

Mach
02-20-2015, 02:31 PM
You guys do realize that the article in the OP is satire, right?

It did it's job.... some good "points" made....and I cracked up a few times throughout the posts. :D



Dating Women is Legal Prostitution


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cANgHUOjpm4

Anti Federalist
02-20-2015, 02:42 PM
You guys do realize that the article in the OP is satire, right?

Good job sussing that out.

National Report sucks.

dannno
02-20-2015, 02:50 PM
Good job sussing that out.

National Report sucks.

Drudge Report posted it too..

dannno
02-20-2015, 02:54 PM
I wonder how many people bought plane tickets to NY because of this satirical article?

Author should have thought of that..

Spikender
02-20-2015, 02:55 PM
You guys do realize that the article in the OP is satire, right?

Thanks for the update. Gotta go cancel a flight to New York now.

William Tell
02-20-2015, 02:56 PM
Drudge Report posted it too..

You mean http://drudgereport.com.co/ ? That isn't the normal Drudge Report site.

willwash
02-20-2015, 03:01 PM
Well you can't blame a person for getting hungry and you can't blame men for being horny....

You CAN 'blame' a person for not finding and preparing their own food, but if the reason they aren't doing so is because they are busy PROVIDING OTHER TYPES OF GOODS AND SERVICES to the community to enjoy in trade for money, then you can't exactly blame them for spending that money at a restaurant.

Where your analogy really falls apart is that whereas a man or woman has the physical ability to gather food and cook for themselves, a man does not have the ability to get sex without a woman as masturbation is a poor unfulfilling short term solution to finding sex. So is it the man's fault no 'restaurants' are open or he doesn't have a girlfriend/wife to 'cook' for him? I guess it depends. What do women want in a sexual partner? An alpha male stud. So if every man was an alpha male stud, then I suppose we could speculate women would be having sex with a broader segment of the population, more often. However, what would a society like that be like? Ultra-aggressive? More gang or tribal type warring? I mean, right now in many modern societies most wars are confined to government provocation.

So women like to blame men for the aggression and violence in society, and then they blame men when they can't get laid. This proves that women as a whole, and often individually, don't have any clue on earth wtf they want.

War to kill off excess males and polygamy for those that remain is the answer! Maybe if we can get the male/female ratio down to 1:3, women will come down a peg or two in their pickiness.

Mach
02-20-2015, 04:40 PM
This one seems like a satire too, nope, but it's close, Socialism.....

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000772

Denmark - Legal


"Torben Hansen, who has cerebral palsy, which severely affects his speech and mobility, believes his local authority should pay the extra charge he incurs when he hires a sex worker - because his disability means he cannot go to see them. His case is currently being considered.

Philhelm
02-20-2015, 04:52 PM
War to kill off excess males and polygamy for those that remain is the answer! Maybe if we can get the male/female ratio down to 1:3, women will come down a peg or two in their pickiness.

No, because most women would prefer to share an alpha male than be with a beta male. Hence, alpha studs can have a de facto harem of girls to choose from on their phones, while Joe Average masturbates to World of Warcraft and cries himself to sleep. As it is now, a minority of men are having sex with a majority of the women.

jllundqu
02-20-2015, 05:08 PM
hehe.... art.

"I wasn't banging hookers, honey, I swear! It was "art"