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Anti Federalist
02-12-2015, 12:21 PM
LOL @ "democracy"



Cities challenge St. Charles County’s red light camera ban

http://www.kmov.com/news/st-charles-county-news/Some-cities-challenging-St-Charles-Countys-red-light-camera-ban-286714451.html#ixzz3RYY9AhIW

(KMOV.com) – St. Peters, O’Fallon, Lake St. Louis, and a councilman from O’Fallon are filing a lawsuit in attempt to block a ban on red light cameras in St. Charles County.

Voters approved the ban November 4, with 73 percent of those who went to polls supporting the measure. However, those suing maintain the county has overstepped its legal bounds.

“Seventy-three percent of the voters pass a ban on red light cameras so what these cities are doing are suing 73 percent of the voters in St. Charles County, within their own cities. They’re suing their own residents,” said St. Charles County Councilman Joe Brazil.

Supporters of red light cameras say the cameras are for safety, while critics say they are just a money grab. Who can regulate and restrict red light cameras is open to debate. St. Peters issued a statement saying:

No authority exists for St. Charles County to lay claim to the regulation of traffic on city streets.

“I believe what’s the point of having a municipality if you’re not going to organize and establish your own right and regulations,” said Elizabeth LaFlamme.

“The federal government has jurisdictions over the states, states have jurisdictions over the counties, the counties have jurisdictions over their municipalities, so it’s fairly clear that they have the right to impose laws on those municipalities, especially if those laws are voted into law by the voters,” said Roger Dalsky.

The attorney representing the cities filing the lawsuit said the county’s legal authority is very clear.

“The state can dictate what cities are authorized to do or prohibit the cities from doing things. There’s nothing in the Missouri Constitution that provides the county to do the same thing,” said attorney John Young.

Young believes it may be months or years before the lawsuit is resolved in court.

JK/SEA
02-12-2015, 12:26 PM
thankyou sir, may i have another...

thankyou sir, may i have another...

thankyou sir, may i have another...


:mad:

acptulsa
02-12-2015, 01:01 PM
“The federal government has jurisdictions over the states, states have jurisdictions over the counties, the counties have jurisdictions over their municipalities, so it’s fairly clear that they have the right to impose laws on those municipalities, especially if those laws are voted into law by the voters,” said Roger Dalsky.

So, shit rolls downhill, that is the only fact of life, and the voters only enter into it if you can trick them into voting to support you, because a little added illusion of legitimacy is kinda nice if you can get it.

heavenlyboy34
02-12-2015, 01:22 PM
“The federal government has jurisdictions over the states, states have jurisdictions over the counties, the counties have jurisdictions over their municipalities, so it’s fairly clear (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/#) that they have the right to impose laws on those municipalities, especially if those laws are voted into law by the voters,” said Roger Dalsky. That's Federalist Constitutionalist dogma in a nutshell. Smells like freedumb.

ZENemy
02-12-2015, 01:26 PM
"We gotta vote the right people in"


lol, and what do we think will happen when we do?

aGameOfThrones
02-12-2015, 01:43 PM
EAT IT, Mundane!

otherone
02-12-2015, 02:08 PM
“I believe what’s the point of having a municipality if you’re not going to organize and establish your own right and regulations,” said Elizabeth LaFlamme.

GREAT Question. "Right and regulations"? WHO THE FUCK wants that, other than bureaucrats?

Cabal
02-12-2015, 02:17 PM
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DamianTV
02-13-2015, 08:51 AM
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/city-missouri-suing-citizens-voted-ban-red-light-cameras/


Question: When do you know that you live in a tyranny?
Answer: When the citizens vote to ban red light cameras and the city reacts by suing them.

St. Charles County, MO — St. Peters, O’Fallon, Lake St. Louis, and a councilman from O’Fallon have filed a lawsuit against their OWN CITIZENS.

In November of last year, the citizens of St. Charles County democratically expressed their anger with the use of red light cameras in their town. Seventy-three percent of those who went to the polls approved a measure to ban red light cameras.

However, the fat cat bureaucrats, apparently afraid of losing the money generated from the rights-violating red light cameras, don’t like that vote. They are now taking action to punish the citizens for trying to undermine their perceived authority.

“Seventy-three percent of the voters pass a ban on red light cameras so what these cities are doing are suing 73 percent of the voters in St. Charles County, within their own cities. They’re suing their own residents,” said St. Charles County Councilman Joe Brazil.

In true Orwellian fashion, the cities are claiming that the measure, which was passed by voters, is unconstitutional.

The attorney representing the cities in the lawsuit said the county’s legal authority is cut and dry.

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(More on Link, or maybe Moron Link...)

Natural Citizen
02-13-2015, 09:03 AM
Dang. I'm thinking one could restore the definition of personhood correctly with a case like this at the state level. Cripes, that would solve 90% of the world's problems. At the very least you could take a crack at it. That'd really screw em up in the noggin if you hit them with something like that out of right field.