Pentagon Claims Vladimir Putin has Asperger's

[NOVALibertarian]

A 2008 Pentagon report claims Russian President Vladimir Putin has Asperger's syndrome, according to a copy of the study obtained by CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.

The research was conducted by the Office of Net Assessment, a secretive, internal Pentagon think tank. It defined Asperger's syndrome as "an autistic disorder which affects all of his decisions."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-vladimir-putin-have-aspergers-syndrome/

[Ronin Truth]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-vladimir-putin-have-aspergers-syndrome/

Sounds kinda like Obama too. (Along with the narcissism they both share.)

[Working Poor]

So does that mean we are supposed to hate autistic people now?

[Ronin Truth]

So does that mean we are supposed to hate autistic people now?


Only the ex KGB officers. ;)

[AngryCanadian]

Yet all American presidents are clean, Healthy and innocent right everyone?

[sparebulb]

Smear machine just kicked up a notch.

Demonize Putin by claiming that he has a dangerous mental disorder.

Comparison to Hitler coming next...........

[specsaregood]

Dunno, the guy in this image:
http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/two-thumbs-up-from-vladimir-putin.gif

Sure doesn't seem to have a problem with:


Asperger's is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.


He seems quite comfortable in this unexpected awkward social interaction and certainly has no problem with nonverbal communication.

[acptulsa]

Smear machine just kicked up a notch.

Demonize Putin by claiming that he has a dangerous mental disorder.

Comparison to Hitler coming next...........

What's dangerous about Asperger's?

Now good old American governmental sociopathy, on the other hand...

[sparebulb]

What's dangerous about Asperger's?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02428/Adam--Lanza_2428724b.jpg

Mass media says they are.

Then they champion the sufferers by claiming that their condition is misunderstood.

Win-Win

[AuH20]

Sounds like revenge for the Maximka characterization. LOL

http://observer.com/2014/12/russians-rage-against-america/


Today, this country has a black President, and the Russians have a nickname for him too. He is called Maximka—after a character from a popular Soviet movie, made in 1952, which told the story of a black boy saved by the Russian sailors from the cruelty of the vicious American slave-traders who were terribly abusing him and calling him just that—“Boy.” In the film, the saved boy was fed well by the Russian crew, given the name Maximka, and became one of their own in the end.

But by the modern-day Russian legend, Maximka, unfortunately, has grown up into an ungrateful Russophobe.


Putin in the past has also dissed McCain:


Another hated ‘pindos’ is Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), famous in Russia for his periodic tweets to ‘Dear Vlad.’ In 2011, for example, Mr. McCain tweeted Putin, “Dear Vlad, The #ArabSpring is coming to a neighborhood near you.” Usually reserved and purposefully polite while talking about his ‘partners from over the Big Pool’ (Big Pool being the Atlantic Ocean ), this time Mr. Putin shot back, saying that Mr. McCain “has a lot of blood of peaceful civilians on his hands. He must relish and can’t live without the disgusting, repulsive scenes of the killing of Gadhafi.” “Mr. McCain was captured in Vietnam and they kept him not just in prison, but in a pit for several years,” Mr. Putin added. “Anyone [in his place] would have had his roof moved over.” The last three words in Russian slang mean “suddenly to become insane.”

[luctor-et-emergo]

Dunno, the guy in this image:
http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/two-thumbs-up-from-vladimir-putin.gif

Sure doesn't seem to have a problem with:


He seems quite comfortable in this unexpected awkward social interaction and certainly has no problem with nonverbal communication.

I think it's because they cannot grasp how he has a strong personality that isn't easily influenced. People who won't 'listen', well, I guess with a bit of political spin, you could call them autistic in some form or another... So far though there is no actual real chemical test for Aspergers as far as I am aware of, it's a definition thing, kind of like disobedience disorder. Someone suffering from that could also be called a logical thinker.

I can see why they would pin that on him, it's sort of discrediting him as a rational thinking person, in generalized thought that is. I know some people who are categorized as having Aspergers syndrome and they generally come across as really intelligent and friendly people but when you get into a disagreement with them you have to back off a bit or things will get ugly. Putin is different though, he's very behaved and more analytic of his own behavior than anything else. I don't agree with all of his policies and I don't know enough about them to say if I do or not for certain but I think he generally is the kind of leader that Russia needs. What would be the alternative? A puppet ? One thing is for sure, Putin is not a puppet.

[juleswin]

I think it's because they cannot grasp how he has a strong personality that isn't easily influenced. People who won't 'listen', well, I guess with a bit of political spin, you could call them autistic in some form or another... So far though there is no actual real chemical test for Aspergers as far as I am aware of, it's a definition thing, kind of like disobedience disorder. Someone suffering from that could also be called a logical thinker.

I can see why they would pin that on him, it's sort of discrediting him as a rational thinking person, in generalized thought that is. I know some people who are categorized as having Aspergers syndrome and they generally come across as really intelligent and friendly people but when you get into a disagreement with them you have to back off a bit or things will get ugly. Putin is different though, he's very behaved and more analytic of his own behavior than anything else. I don't agree with all of his policies and I don't know enough about them to say if I do or not for certain but I think he generally is the kind of leader that Russia needs. What would be the alternative? A puppet ? One thing is for sure, Putin is not a puppet.

Isn't that what Dustin Hoffman's character in Rain man had? They tend to be book genius types while lacking social skills.

[Kilrain]

Don't know about Putin, but I've always thought it quite likely that Ron Paul is an Aspie. Also, I think that this forum has a vastly greater share of Aspies than the general population. Could be wishful thinking on my part, but it's what I think.

And just to make it perfectly clear: I like Aspies, being that I'm probably one myself.

[acptulsa]

Isn't that what Dustin Hoffman's character in Rain man had? They tend to be book genius types while lacking social skills.

Uh, no.

That character had autism before the definition of autism was expanded to include the 'autism spectrum', and every intelligent person who ever lived.

Now they call those 'savants'. They don't have Asperger's--but then, since they made Asperger's into a non-diagnosis, I guess no one does...

[NOVALibertarian]

Comparison to Hitler coming next...........

For what it's worth, Michael Fitzgerald, an expert when it comes to autism, put forward a theory that Adolf Hitler himself was a high-functioning autistic/had aspergers.

So yeah, there's that.

[specsaregood]

Don't know about Putin, but I've always thought it quite likely that Ron Paul is an Aspie. Also, I think that this forum has a vastly greater share of Aspies than the general population. Could be wishful thinking on my part, but it's what I think.

And just to make it perfectly clear: I like Aspies, being that I'm probably one myself.

I don't see it in Ron at all. He is very social and has no problems communicating. What exactly makes you think he is "Aspie"? Because he has things that interest him more than others? That's hardly a real identifier.

[Kilrain]

I don't see it in Ron at all. He is very social and has no problems communicating. What exactly makes you think he is "Aspie"? Because he has things that interest him more than others? That's hardly a real identifier.

Yeah, the special interest bordering on obsession, general awkwardness in public (which I think is pretty obvious in him) and also his logical approach to things, as opposed to an emotional approach.

But like I said, could be wishful thinking on my part.

[Ender]

Aspergers and autism are the new genius- many in the artistic world have it.

Aspergers does not make you dysfunctional- neither does autism, if one is allowed to develop at their own speed, instead of being drugged to death.

[donnay]

Autism Spectrum: Are You On It?
If so, you're in good company. From Asperger’s to “Asperger’s,” how the spectrum became quite so all-inclusive.


By Benjamin Wallace
Published May 12, 2014

http://images.nymag.com/news/features/spectrum121029_560.jpg
Illustration by Gluekit.
(Photo: Nikki Kahn/The Washington Post via Getty Images (Obama); Krasilnikov Stanislav/Itar-Tass Photo/Corbis (Zuckerberg); Adele Starr/AP (Aates); Pascal Le Segretain/Getty Images (West); Powell/Express/Getty Images (Warhol); Gary Gershoff/WireImage (Byrne); Paul Archuleta/FilmMagic (Hannah); Paul A. Hebert/Getty Images (Harmon); Universal History Archive/Getty Images (Jefferson); Photo12/UIG/Getty Images (Darwin); David Wolff-Patrick/Redferns via Getty Images (Slash); Universal History Archive/Getty Images (Einstein); Nati Harnik/ap (Buffett); Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images (Aykroyd); Ben Pruchnie/Getty Images (Rowling); Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images (Rodman); Emmanuel Dunand/AFP/Getty Images (Romney))

“Is every man in America somewhere on it?” Nora Ephron wondered about the autism spectrum in an e-mail to a friend a few months before her death. “Is every producer on it? Is every 8-year-old boy who is obsessed with statistics on it? Sometimes, when we say someone is on the spectrum, do we just mean he’s a prick? Or a pathological narcissist? I notice that at least three times a week I am told (or I tell someone) that some man or other is on the spectrum.”

Ephron was hardly alone. In August, after a string of campaign-trail bloopers by Mitt Romney (e.g., at a New Hampshire parade, he described his lemonade as “lemon … wet … good”), noted *diagnostician David Shuster, a television personality at Current TV, floated the idea that Romney might be on the spectrum. Shuster cited “an uncle who specializes in the field of Asperger’s”—a mild variant of autism—who had “suggested that perhaps Mitt Romney has some sort of form of Asperger’s because he’s so socially inept in terms of being able to connect with people. What he thinks is funny is really sort of not so funny. I sort of wonder if there’s some sort of tic or something that he has that’s related to that.”

Meanwhile, out on the Great Plains, one Dennis Stillings, writing in the Bismarck-based Dakota Beacon about Barack Obama, has adduced such telltale evidence as his “legendary clumsiness … He has actually bowled a 37,” “verbal glitches—possibly the reason for the ever-present teleprompters,” and “infamous inability to relate” to arrive at a boldly contrarian thesis: “Obama may well not be narcissistic at all, but simply manifesting a typical feature of autism.” Stillings then passes along the opinion of a friend of a friend “who actually works with autistic people” that the president of the United States “likely” has Asperger’s, and speculates that this “may or may not be of significance” to the Obama administration’s considerable funding of autism research.

The diagnosis is everywhere: Facebook’s former head of engineering has stated that Mark Zuckerberg has “a touch of the Asperger’s.” Time suggested that the intensely awkward Bill Gates is autistic; a biographer of Warren Buffett wrote that the Oracle of Omaha, with his prodigious memory and “fascination with numbers,” has “a vaguely autistic aura.” On Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Drew Pinsky deemed Dennis Rodman (selectively hyperfocused, socially obtuse) a candidate for an Asperger’s diagnosis, and the UCLA specialist brought in to make it official “seemed to concur,” Pinsky told viewers. On the Asperger’s community site Wrong Planet, threads like “Real life celebrities who have or probably have Asperger’s” include Jim Carrey, Adolf Hitler, Daryl Hannah, Slash, Billy Joel, J. K. Rowling, and Adam Carolla, who makes the cut because “I’ve heard guests on his podcast remark on his lack of eye contact.” “Kanye Probably Has Asperger’s,” BuzzFeed recently declared.


Continued... (http://nymag.com/news/features/autism-spectrum-2012-11/)

[Acala]

Don't know about Putin, but I've always thought it quite likely that Ron Paul is an Aspie. Also, I think that this forum has a vastly greater share of Aspies than the general population. Could be wishful thinking on my part, but it's what I think.

And just to make it perfectly clear: I like Aspies, being that I'm probably one myself.

Hardcore INTJs can look a bit Aspie. I would say Ron is an INTJ, not Aspie. True Aspies are socially inappropriate to the point of seeming odd. They also tend to have narrow, obsessive interests. Ron is a poor public speaker but he isn't odd or socially inappropriate. In fact, he is rather gracious.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I don't see it in Ron at all. He is very social and has no problems communicating.

It depends...

If I had to sum him up in 3 words they would be suborn, opinionated and suspicious.

I'd generally define Asperger's syndrome as a good thing. Aside from being socially dysfunctional, you get all the upsides of being autistic - ie servant/genius without most of the downsides.

-t

[Christian Liberty]

Don't know about Putin, but I've always thought it quite likely that Ron Paul is an Aspie. Also, I think that this forum has a vastly greater share of Aspies than the general population. Could be wishful thinking on my part, but it's what I think.

And just to make it perfectly clear: I like Aspies, being that I'm probably one myself.

Me to:)

[Christian Liberty]

Yeah, the special interest bordering on obsession, general awkwardness in public (which I think is pretty obvious in him) and also his logical approach to things, as opposed to an emotional approach.

But like I said, could be wishful thinking on my part.

I'm an ultra politics and theology nerd.

[jkob]

The article is just a pure propaganda piece, can't believe the Pentagon actually paid for it but I'm guessing this headline was the point.

[Tinnuhana]

I thought Aspberger's was eliminated as a diagnosis; now you're just on a continuum/spectrum. I think it's just a convenient label...probably want to put you on some drug or other. Why can't people just admit that some other people see no reason to waste their time interacting with social "trolls"? ...and that it's not some sort of aberration? Sorry for getting on the soapbox.


Language of Us/Them
by Mayer Shevin


We like things
They fixate on objects

We try to make friends
They display attention seeking behavior

We take breaks
They display off task behavior

We stand up for ourselves
They are non-compliant

We have hobbies
They self-stim

We choose our friends wisely
They display poor peer socialization

We persevere
They perseverate

We like people
They have dependencies on people

We go for a walk
They run away

We insist
They tantrum

We change our minds
They are disoriented and have short
attention spans

We have talents
They have splinter skills

We are human
They are . . . ?

[Lucille]

http://replygif.net/i/1485.gif



The analysis is solely based on videos of Putin's public actions, dating back to the year 2000.


Brenda Connors of the US Naval War College [is] a “movement patterns analysis” expert, is a former State Department official and professional dancer who has been described, by a psychologist from the University of Chicago, as a “dancer and diplomat”.

She recruited specialists to examine footage of Putin. One of them, Dr Stephen Porges, a University of North Carolina psychologist, told the Guardian: “Everyone should drop this whole thing about Asperger’s and autism.”

Porges never saw either USNWC report but said the objective was never diagnosis, which would be impossible with so little evidence.

“You don’t diagnose based on videotapes (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/vladimir-putin-aspergers-syndrome-pentagon-studies),” he said.

Every time I think this country has reached peak absurdity, it goes ahead and makes a complete ass of itself again to prove me wrong.

[acptulsa]

Every time I think this country has reached peak absurdity, it goes ahead and makes a complete ass of itself again to prove me wrong.

This is why they maintain the fiction that the government and the press are independent of each other. The government gives the media a story to run with, the media does so, the government comes back and says, this means nothing, isn't true/provable, and we have no idea who leaked it, and no one at all pays any attention to the Page 47 "retraction". And the term for why the government doesn't get the blame for their silly propaganda is Plausible Deniability.

And I still say we'd do very well indeed to elect a bunch of Aspies to replace all our sociopaths.

[Lucille]

And I still say we'd do very well indeed to elect a bunch of Aspies to replace all our sociopaths.

We absolutely would be better off!

[Ronin Truth]

I'm an ultra politics and theology nerd.

Yeah, I'm sure God just REALLY loves ultra politics too. :rolleyes:

[sparebulb]

http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/two-thumbs-up-from-vladimir-putin.gif

I would like to examine this event from the reverse point of view.

[AuH20]

I would love to see our puppet conduct an unfiltered press conference of this size and scale:

http://rt.com/news/putin-press-conference-updates-453/


This is Putin’s ninth big media conference over his two presidential terms. During the last Q&A session Putin answered 81 questions in 4 hours and 33 minutes. The record-long 2008 session saw the President answering 106 questions from 80 journalists.

[pcosmar]

The Pentagon says,,,

Yeah,, like that inspires confidence. :rolleyes:




not.