Who is killing the great bankers of Europe?

[Dianne]

More bankster deaths:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/01/who_is_killing_the_great_bankers_of_europe.html

Who is killing the great bankers of Europe?
By Rick Moran

This is either the most interesting case of coincidental deaths or one of the most evil plots in modern history.

Western bankers are dropping dead all over the place - most of them youngish and in good health. There appear to be an unusual number of suicides and "unexplained" deaths.

Last year, 36 bankers died. There have been 3 already this year, including the latest - a Dutch financier who worked for Amro bank.

Zero Hedge blog has been following this story.

Following the deaths of 36 bankers last year, 2015 has got off to an inauspicious start with the reported suicide of Chris Van Eeghen - the 4th ABN Amro banker suicide in the last few years. As Quotenet reports, the death of Van Eghen - the head of ABN's corporate finance and capital markets -"startled" friends and colleagues as the 42-year-old "had a great reputation" at work, came from an "illustrious family," and enjoyed national fame briefly as the boyfriend of a famous actress/model. As one colleague noted, "he was always cheerful, good mood, and apparently he had everything your heart desired. He never sat in the pit, never was down, so I was extremely surprised. I can not understand."

As Niburu details, friends and colleagues were startled by the news that Chris van Eeghen had committed suicide.

He worked in Amsterdam for ABN / AMRO in the position of "head of syndicate and corporate finance markets."

Again, there is again a familiar pattern, namely that there is no indication that Van Eeghen had plans to take his life.

Ostensibly a successful banker, coming from what was described as an illustrious family. Chris was also a familiar sight in Amsterdam's nightlife scene and enjoyed national fame as possible new boyfriend of Tatjana Simic (a famous Croatian-Dutch model, singer, actress).

Most believe that the suicide is not related to his work at the bank,
but a former colleague had noticed that on his Facebook recently changed
its job title to "former."

Chris leaves behind a son - who had recently been cleared of cancer.

This is the 4th ABN Amro suicide in recent years...

So what's going on? Almost certainly, it isn't a plot. Banking - especially at the level that most of these bankers had reached - is a stressful occupation with more than the average number of suicides. It's also logical that such stress could lead to an early death due to heart attack or stroke. (Researchers now believe that some cancers are related to stress.)

If you were to take employees from a similarly stressful industry and compare suicide and early death rates, you would probably make similar correlations appear.

So far, no evidence of foul play has emerged in any of these deaths. So either the plotters are spectacularly competent in fooling authorities, or there is nothing fishy at all about these deaths.

[ZENemy]

"Great Banker" is an oxymoron.

[HVACTech]

I think the real question is, should we organize a money-bomb for them? :D

(I hope I don't get banned for writing that..:( )

[Ronin Truth]

Cui bono?

[mrsat_98]

I think the real question is, should we organize a money-bomb for them? :D

(I hope I don't get banned for writing that..:( )

Be glad you didn't leave the money out of "money bomb".

[muh_roads]

The banks are killing their own to collect the life insurance policies.

[Zippyjuan]

If the goal is killing bankers why just underlings and nobody at the top?

But what are the statistics? Is this abnormal? The suicide rate in the US is about 12 in 100,000 people per year. https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures

The five largest banks in the US alone have about 850,000 employees http://www.bankspider.com/topbanks.php?sel=employees
so we could expect 102 US banker suicides a year just in the US.

And as the article in the OP notes:


So what's going on? Almost certainly, it isn't a plot. Banking - especially at the level that most of these bankers had reached - is a stressful occupation with more than the average number of suicides. It's also logical that such stress could lead to an early death due to heart attack or stroke. (Researchers now believe that some cancers are related to stress.)

If you were to take employees from a similarly stressful industry and compare suicide and early death rates, you would probably make similar correlations appear.

So far, no evidence of foul play has emerged in any of these deaths. So either the plotters are spectacularly competent in fooling authorities, or there is nothing fishy at all about these deaths.

[UWDude]

If the goal is killing bankers why just underlings and nobody at the top?

But what are the statistics? Is this abnormal? The suicide rate in the US is about 12 in 100,000 people per year. https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures

The five largest banks in the US alone have about 850,000 employees http://www.bankspider.com/topbanks.php?sel=employees
so we could expect 102 US banker suicides a year just in the US.

Wrong again, as always, Zippy.

1) The bankers noted in these stories are of high positions. There are not 850,000 high level bankers in the United States.
2) A suicide rate of 12 per 100,000 includes the suicides of the elderly, who are far more likely to commit suicide than any other age group. These bankers have all been mostly young or middle age, the least likely group to commit suicide.

You should read the stories posted here, then think, before commenting.

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry you are right. No professional commits suicide. Only old people. Thanks for the correction.

#9 in Most Stressful Jobs in America: http://money.howstuffworks.com/10-most-stressful-jobs-in-america6.htm#page=2
Corporate Executives


Many lists of stressful jobs include business leaders, whether they're identified as chief executive officers, advertising account executives or some other high-level corporate executive.

These lucrative, white-collar jobs might seem highly desirable, but the big checks come with a price. The hours are likely to be long, and what looks like relaxation is often really networking. The competition with other corporations and with colleagues can be cutthroat. Salespeople are under constant pressure to bring in more business and more revenue. Those at the top must try to keep a lot of people with different interests happy, from shareholders to employees. Increasingly, there's also public scrutiny to worry about, with questions about such issues as ethics, diversity and environmental responsibility.

If a top executive gets a lot of the credit for success, he or she also may get all the blame for failure, or even for less-than-expected success. Any top executive knows that he or she could be out of a job with short notice. Even having a so-called golden parachute severance package is little consolation for someone whose life has been defined by a high-level job.

Add that to:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-darkest-side-to-workplace-and-economic-stress-suicide/ (article from 2009)


According to The New York Times, workplace suicides rose significantly from 2007 to 2008, to a series high of 251 nationwide.

The Times reported that:

94 percent were committed by men
the suicide rate was highest for workers ages 45 to 54
white workers were most likely to commit suicide (78 percent)
employees in management positions accounted for the largest group of suicides

And keep in mind these numbers don't include suicides that were committed outside the workplace.

[enhanced_deficit]

Don't know about that but at least some may have fled Europe. There was news that prominent Eduardo Rothschild of France (Paper owned by Eduardo Rothschild stands up for Free Speech in France (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?466505-Paper-owned-by-Israeli-Zionist-stands-up-for-Free-Speech-in-France&)) had emigrated to holy land.

[dannno]

Sorry you are right. No professional commits suicide. Only old people. Thanks for the correction.


Do you know if bank tellers are included in your 850,000 figure? Because I don't remember the last time any of these stories were about bank tellers dying. Or any branch managers. Or ANYBODY who works AT an actual bank.. or secretaries who work at the main banking HQ, or people in the IT Dept, or custodians, etc..

[Zippyjuan]

Do you know if bank tellers are included in your 850,000 figure? Because I don't remember the last time any of these stories were about bank tellers dying. Or any branch managers. Or ANYBODY who works AT an actual bank.. or secretaries who work at the main banking HQ, or people in the IT Dept, or custodians, etc..

You are right- the counts include all employees. But the list of 36 is not all executives either and covers the entire world- not just the five largest banks in the US.

I see that the "dead bankers" list does include some IT workers (#10 and #26). http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-07/riddles-surround-36th-dead-banker-year
Number One on the list is (was) a reporter.
#2 was a "communications Director"
#3 had retired so was no longer a banker. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-28/william-broeksmit-former-deutsche-bank-risk-manager-dies-at-58
#15 lost his job in the industry in 2008 (forced to resign) so he to was no longer an executive. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304819004579487590931617328
#5 listed as "junior banker". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563866/JPMorgan-banker-leaps-death-skyscraper-Hong-Kong-second-suicide-firm-matter-weeks.html
A couple were lawyers (#14 and #20)
#24 is listed as a "zakenman" which is Dutch for businessman. http://browse.dict.cc/dutch-english/zakenman.html
#18 is only described as a "female employee" who "had clashed with her supervisors" and had "been in therapy for years" http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-female-banker-jumps-her-death-office-window-after-clash-bosses-1446021
#20 is a tax adminsitrator (CPA- Hoofd Belastingdienst en lid CREDAF)- not a banker

[UWDude]

Sorry you are right. No professional commits suicide. Only old people. Thanks for the correction.

#9 in Most Stressful Jobs in America: http://money.howstuffworks.com/10-most-stressful-jobs-in-america6.htm#page=2
Corporate Executives

stress =/= suicide




Add that to:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-darkest-side-to-workplace-and-economic-stress-suicide/ (article from 2009)

Why are you linking me a story about workplace suicides? These bankers aren't, by and large, dying, or committing suicide at work. Furthermore, this is 2015, that article was a study conducted in 2007 - 2008, during the economic bust, when you would be more likely to see traders jumping for windows. Times are good right now in the financial industry.

[Zippyjuan]

People in more stressful jobs are more likely to commit suicide. You are right- doesn't mean they automatically will.

In this article, they are listed as the third most likely profession to commit suicide (and it is including data from 2014):

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/the-biggest/the-10-professions-with-the-highest-suicide-rates/?view=all


Another profession that may not come as a surprise, as the correlation between financial workers and suicide has been witnessed by the public since the Great Depression when stock brokers who had been bankrupted leapt from buildings, as the economy goes, so does the average rate of suicide amongst workers in the financial sector. The suicide rate amongst financial workers in America is 1.51 times higher than average, and it is not entirely surprising given the economic landscape of the country post-2008. In the first three months of 2014 alone, there were already 11 reported suicides amongst those in finance.

Doctors and Dentists are #1 and #2.

[jbauer]

WWWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATtttttttttttt Zerohedge makes $hit up?


You are right- the counts include all employees. But the list of 36 is not all executives either and covers the entire world- not just the five largest banks in the US.

I see that the "dead bankers" list does include some IT workers (#10 and #26). http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-07/riddles-surround-36th-dead-banker-year
Number One on the list is (was) a reporter.
#2 was a "communications Director"
#3 had retired so was no longer a banker. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-28/william-broeksmit-former-deutsche-bank-risk-manager-dies-at-58
#15 lost his job in the industry in 2008 (forced to resign) so he to was no longer an executive. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304819004579487590931617328
#5 listed as "junior banker". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563866/JPMorgan-banker-leaps-death-skyscraper-Hong-Kong-second-suicide-firm-matter-weeks.html
A couple were lawyers (#14 and #20)
#24 is listed as a "zakenman" which is Dutch for businessman. http://browse.dict.cc/dutch-english/zakenman.html
#18 is only described as a "female employee" who "had clashed with her supervisors" and had "been in therapy for years" http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-female-banker-jumps-her-death-office-window-after-clash-bosses-1446021
#20 is a tax adminsitrator (CPA- Hoofd Belastingdienst en lid CREDAF)- not a banker

[Zippyjuan]

They got the list from "Before It's News".


This is the 36th Dead Banker of the year (via Beforeitsnews):

1) David Bird, 55, long-time reporter for the Wall Street Journal working at the Dow Jones news room
2) Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG
3) William Broeksmit, 58, former senior manager for Deutsche Bank
4) Ryan Henry Crane, age 37, JP Morgan
5) Li Junjie, 33, Hong Kong JP Morgan
6) Gabriel Magee, 39, age JP Morgan employee
7) Mike Dueker, 50, who had worked for Russell Investments
8) Richard Talley, 57, was the founder and CEO of American Title (real estate titles)
9) James Stuart Jr. 70, Former National Bank of Commerce CEO was found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz
10) Jason Alan Salais, 34 year old IT Specialist at JPMorgan since 2008
11) Autumn Radtke, 28, CEO of First Meta, a Singapore-based virtual currency trading platform
12) Eddie Reilly, 47, investment banker, Vertical Group, New York
13) Kenneth Ballando, 28, investment banker, Levy Capital, New york
14) Joseph A. Giampapa, 55, corporate bankruptcy lawyer, JP Morgan Chase
15) Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, voormalig topbestuurder ANB/AMRO, Laren, Nederland
16) Juergen Frick, 48, CEO Bank Frick & Co AG, Liechtenstein
17) Benoît Philippens, 37, directeur BNP Parisbas Fortis Bank, Ans, België.
18) Lydia…, 52, bankier Bred-Banque-Populaire, Parijs
19) Andrew Jarzyk, 27, bankier, PNC Bank, New York
20) Carlos Six, 61, Hoofd Belastingdienst en lid CREDAF, België
21) Jan Winkelhuijzen, 75, Commissaris en Fiscalist (voormalig Deloitte), Nederland.
22) Richard Rockefeller, 66, achterkleinzoon elitebankier John D. Rockefeller, Amerika
23) Mahafarid Amir Khosravi (Amir Mansour Aria), 45, bankeigenaar, zakenman en derivatenhandelaar, Iran
24) Lewis Katz, 76, zakenman, advocaat en insider in de bancaire wereld, Amerika
25) Julian Knott, Directeur Global Operations Center JP Morgan, 45, Amerika
26) Richard Gravino, IT Specialist JP Morgan, 49, Amerika
27) Thomas James Schenkman, Managing Director Global Infrastructure JP Morgan, 42, Amerika
28) Nicholas Valtz, 39, Managing Director Goldman Sachs, New York, Amerika
29) Therese Brouwer, 50, Managing Director ING, Nederland
30) Tod Robert Edward, 51, Vice President M & T Bank, Amerika
31) Thierry Leyne, 48, investeringsbankier en eigenaar Anatevka S.A., Israël
32) Calogero Gambino, 41, Managing Director Deutsche Bank, Amerika
33) Shawn D. Miller, 42, Managing Director Citigroup, New York, Amerika
34) Melissa Millian, 54, Senior Vice President Mass Mutual, Amerika
35) Thieu Leenen, 64, Relatiemanager ABN/AMRO, Eindhoven, Nederland
36) Geert Tack, 52, Private Banker ING, Haaltert, België

[Working Poor]

The banks are killing their own to collect the life insurance policies.

I thought insurance would not pay in the case of suicide.

[osan]

We know it isn't Bammy.

[otherone]

I never realized how dangerous Banking is!
These guys are HEROES!

[UWDude]

People in more stressful jobs are more likely to commit suicide. You are right- doesn't mean they automatically will.

In this article, they are listed as the third most likely profession to commit suicide (and it is including data from 2014):

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/the-biggest/the-10-professions-with-the-highest-suicide-rates/?view=all

Doctors and Dentists are #1 and #2.

That's cool, and all, btu I think you should read the article first, because it isn't just suicides.

[Zippyjuan]

What does the article say? How many were homicides? What were the other causes of death? The first article doesn't say anything about that though it does say:


So far, no evidence of foul play has emerged in any of these deaths. So either the plotters are spectacularly competent in fooling authorities, or there is nothing fishy at all about these deaths.

(Richard Rockerfeller was killed in a private plane crash in bad weather) https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/rockefeller-plane-crash/

[acptulsa]

If the goal is killing bankers why just underlings and nobody at the top?


Because the ones at the top aren't capable of stealing the money themselves, but are more than capable of covering their asses?

[Ronin Truth]

"Everything is a rich mans trick."
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Everything+is+a+rich+man%27s+trick&gbv=2&oq=Everything+is+a+rich+man%27s+trick&gs_l=heirloom-hp.12...5343.25125.0.29937.32.17.0.15.4.0.282.3359 .0j3j12.15.0.msedr...0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-hp..14.18.3484.cumHTEcAcC8

[jbauer]

I thought insurance would not pay in the case of suicide.

2 years after contract date most of them will pay.

[Dianne]

I think the real question is, should we organize a money-bomb for them? :D

(I hope I don't get banned for writing that..:( )

lolol... that one cracked me up.