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Suzanimal
01-27-2015, 08:55 AM
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The booming popularity of outdoor kitchens among homeowners in the San Francisco Bay Area has an increasing number of their neighbors coughing and hacking from the smoke, leading air-quality officials to consider tightening rules on wood-burning pizza ovens and smokers.

Residents like Noelle Robbins of Alameda are calling complaint lines and public officials to urge limits on backyard grilling and barbecuing.

For Robbins, a 21-year resident of her neighborhood, trouble began last spring when a neighbor two doors down set up a meat smoker in his backyard. He would leave the smoker going six to eight hours, after dark.

"We would wake up 11:30 at night with our bedroom full of smoke. And it would happen all night long," Robbins, 62, said. "Eyes burning, chest burning. We'd be trapped."

The Bay Area Air Quality Management District enforces air standards for the nine counties and their 7.5 million people. Any new restrictions would apply region wide. The Bay Area currently observes "Spare the Air" days when wood burning is restricted.

But this past week, air-quality district marked a record-tying 11 consecutive days in which smog-trapping conditions forced it to ban most wood burning. On three of those days, the air was so sooty that it fell short of federals standards.

With dry weather patterns keeping air-clearing storms from sweeping through, "any small increase in particulate matter is throwing us over the edge" of federal clean-air standards, said Lisa Fasano, a spokeswoman for the air-quality district.

The air problem is visible on those days, as a gray haze envelops the hills surrounding the Bay. Cold, calm and dry spells during Bay Area winters allow wood smoke to build up, creating conditions some experts and asthma sufferers feel can be as bad as secondhand cigarette smoke.

A 2012 study of pollution in residential neighborhoods by the University of California, Davis found grilling with wood-derived charcoal created some of the most toxic smoke of all sources.

In February and March, air-quality officials will hold public meetings on tightening the few existing exemptions for those days when wood-burning is banned. The exemptions include: letting people use wood fireplaces if that is the sole heating source and allowing homes and businesses to burn wood for all kinds of cooking, indoor or out.

Fines start at $100 for first-time offenders, and can climb to $500 and above for repeat offenders.

Around the country, cooking and home-improvement shows on television have increased the popularity of outdoor kitchens, including wood-fired pizza ovens, smokers and grills.

In 2013, a survey by the American Society of Landscape Architects of its members identified outdoor fire pits, grills and outdoor kitchens and living areas in general as the hottest trends among their clients.

Smokers "are pretty darn popular," confirmed Zach Dilgard, an employee at Barbeques Galore, which sells outdoor grills in Walnut Creek, about 16 miles east of Oakland.

Gas grills are most popular because of their ease of use, but even with those, backyard cooks like to add charcoal or wood for taste, Dilgard said. "You tend to get a little more flavor" with wood and charcoal fires, he said. "Gas doesn't provide any flavor."

Even with just a little wood-fired grilling in a neighborhood, backyard trees can trap smoke from outdoor cooking, making surrounding neighbors miserable, Fasano said.

Berkeley and some other Bay Area cities restricted use of wood-burning pizza ovens a decade or more ago out of concern for air pollution. Nationally, however, federal and local agencies that have tightened wood-burning rules have tended to allow wood-fired cooking.

Decisions on whether to toughen up the rules on backyard smokers and other wood-fired cooking in the Bay Area will come after the public meetings, Fasano said.

For Dilgard, his home smoker will burn on, new rules or no.

"If I have a glorious piece of meat for the smoker and it happened to be a Spare-the-Air day, I promise you, I'll still be cooking it in the smoker," Dilgard said. "What am I supposed to say — 'We're going to McDonald's instead, guys?'"

http://news.yahoo.com/coughing-neighbors-bay-area-rethink-outdoor-cooking-171550066.html

VIDEODROME
01-27-2015, 11:09 AM
Maybe they need smokestacks

ZENemy
01-27-2015, 11:15 AM
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FloralScent
01-27-2015, 11:17 AM
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The smoke from your torch is making me cough, I want it banned.

georgiaboy
01-27-2015, 11:41 AM
Smoking, done right, really doesn't produce that much smoke.

And it smells AWESOME.

Suzanimal
01-27-2015, 11:42 AM
Smoking, done right, really doesn't produce that much smoke.

And it smells AWESOME.

I wonder if the people complaining are vegetarians.

donnay
01-27-2015, 11:46 AM
Smoking, done right, really doesn't produce that much smoke.

And it smells AWESOME.

It doesn't matter...you cannot do it. If you do not comply you simply go to jail to work for $0.25 a day to build smokers for the elites, and if you are lucky, you can dream of those wonderful smells of freedom.

Suzanimal
01-27-2015, 11:50 AM
:mad:


Is bacon causing air pollution in China?

Chinese officials say that bacon is behind the spike of air pollution in several urban centers, reports MarketWatch.

Officials in Sichuan are blaming locals who smoke bacon at home for the recent spike in heavy air pollution. Though bacon-smoking is not the only factor contributing to the rise in air pollution, officials from Dazhou municipality in northeastern Sichuan have cited the practice as the main cause, according to a report from state-run China News Agency.

But Dazhou is not the only city suffering from increased air pollutants. In Chongqing, the region’s largest city, the state-owned Evening News reported a recent “climb in PM 2.5,” which is a pollutant made from tiny particles that can harm lung function amid other health problems. While the report also cited smoking pork as the culprit, not all officials agree.

Zheng Jian, who heads the Chongqing-based social-service agency Bayu NPO Development Center, acknowledged that while making bacon can affect the air it’s highly unlikely that the act would have a “substantial impact” on air pollution levels.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/...ntcmp=HPBucket

Anti Federalist
01-27-2015, 11:52 AM
Told you so. Told you all this is where the "anti smoking" Jihad would go.


For Dilgard, his home smoker will burn on, new rules or no.

Until some busybody neighbor turns you in and you get a SWAT raid.

Suzanimal
01-27-2015, 11:59 AM
Told you so.

I wonder if banning smoking meat would trigger a revolution.... People do love smoked pork.

Anti Federalist
01-27-2015, 12:07 PM
I wonder if banning smoking meat would trigger a revolution.... People do love smoked pork.

Pfff...revolution?

Out of this current addlepated moiling mob of compliant idiot humanity?

You have a better chance of seeing God.

Watching the History Channel's "Sons of Liberty" drove the point home again for me: the worst that the colonists of New England could have been suffering under was "benign neglect".

They didn't suffer under a tenth of tyranny and taxation we do now.

I can't even imagine Gage or Hutchinson issuing "orders" stating the people are subject to arrest for traveling in a snowstorm.

pcosmar
01-27-2015, 12:20 PM
And it smells AWESOME.

What smells awesome to you (and me) will offend some other authoritarian.

This shit was predictable.. and was in fact predicted here some time ago.
First it was tobacco products,, then wood stoves,, now it is cooking.

:(


Told you so. Told you all this is where the "anti smoking" Jihad would go.



Yes you did,, and called it correctly.

acptulsa
01-27-2015, 12:27 PM
Smoking, done right, really doesn't produce that much smoke.

And it smells AWESOME.

One thing is grilling in a kettle grill, rather than smoking. In a proper smoker, the meat is subjected to little heat. Smoke alone can cook meat, but it takes all day and half the night--and a lot of fuel. A Weber kettle is both a barbeque and a smoker, and doesn't take a quarter as long.

Not being able to settle for this--which is no hardship; I've made some delicious meals on one--is one of the reasons civilization sometimes seems impossible.

Anti Federalist
01-27-2015, 12:31 PM
Yes you did,, and called it correctly.

And it will only get worse and it will only spread.

I see a federal ban on wood burning heat in the next ten years.