What political persuasion are you?

[LastoftheMohicans]

I am just curious as to how the Ron Paul supporters in this forum describe themselves politically. Are you conservatives (paleo, neo, traditionalist), libertarians (zero government or minarchist), constitutionalist, liberals or leftists?

[BillyBeer]

PaleoCon, but registered Independent

[kylejack]

Minarchist libertarian.

[LibertyEagle]

Paleoconservative, I guess. What's the difference beteen a traditionalist and a paleo-conservative?

This is what I believe in:
- limited constitutional government
- personal privacy
- personal responsibility
- strong national defense
- fiscally responsible government
- individual liberty

[angrydragon]

There's a another thread on this.

[aravoth]

Recovering Neocon, still registerd republican. Really though, I have no idea what I am now. I guess if there was a party called "pissed off" I'd probably belong to that one.

[torchbearer]

Moderate Libertarian.

[angrydragon]

How about a Ron Paul republican aravoth?

[MozoVote]

I have become so disgusted with political parties that I don't even know anymore. In California I would just vote on the ballot initiatives and say: "The hell with all those bodies, I don't know what any of them will really do in office anyhow."

I don't agree with all of Paul's positions but I think he is more "real world" than the other candidates. Statements like "Pre-emptive nuclear war is madness" prove it! The loose nukes talk of the other candidates was frightening... I will vote democrat if necessary, assuming one of those boobs wins the GOP nomination. 8 years of neophyte military decisions is QUITE enough!!

[BillyBeer]

Recovering Neocon, still registerd republican. Really though, I have no idea what I am now. I guess if there was a party called "pissed off" I'd probably belong to that one.

Im sorry, a good book to help with the recovery is Pat Buchanan's Where the Right Went Wrong.

[kylejack]

Recovering Neocon, still registerd republican. Really though, I have no idea what I am now. I guess if there was a party called "pissed off" I'd probably belong to that one.
The "Network" party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

[enter`name`here]

Anarchist.

[MozoVote]

One thing I've seen posted more than a few times on the blogs and forums, is that Ron Paul has awakened people's political instincts again. I think he has the potential to tap into a vast, disaffected group of people like Perot did in 1992.

I'm tired of being lied to.
I'm tired of the Federal government ignoring individual civil liberties.
I'm tired of Congress assuming it can make any law it damn well pleases.
I'm tired of Supreme Court appointments that support the same.
I'm tired of the ever growing budget deficit. This has been an issue since the 1980s for Chrissakes!
I'm tired of watching the country sinking in debt to foreign nations.

I could write more. I'm just sick of it all! Where are our leaders? Where are our statesmen? Is everybody in Congress on the dole of the PACs and lobbyists? Who is listening to the CITIZENS anymore?

[yongrel]

Uber Libertarian

[Tsoman]

I am just a normal guy who has been touched by Ron Paul.

I dislike labels.

[Highmesa]

Anarchist registered Libertarian (I don't follow the 'don't vote' mantra).

[mikelovesgod]

Monarchist who in the current reality of my country is a paleo-con.

[Bradley in DC]

"Liberal with class"

Play on classical liberal, Hayekian/Misesian here. Liberalism (http://www.mises.org/liberal.asp)

When not speaking my native tongue with others of my ilk, I usually use "libertarian Republican."

[austin356]

^yes, I am a "classical liberal".


I guess I can best be described as a Jeffersonian Constitutionalist, but also someone who understands the ideals of Rothbard (and agrees), but rather see fruits to my battle by fighting for the classical liberal position.

[quickmike]

Im a Reagan republican. I liked Reagans speeches, his message about liberty and smaller government involvement in our lives.(actually libertarian beliefs for the most part) Although I'll admit he didnt really live up to his message, who knows, maybe when he got shot in 81 that was his wakeup call to "fall in line"

I could never join the libertarian party at this time because as Ron Paul has already stated, its a lost cause because of the way the campaign laws are set up to the 2 B.S. parties. Until someone like Ron Paul comes in and can fix the c.ampaign laws to make it possible for a 3rd party candidate to even get in the debates, or on the ballot, theres no good reason to support a 3rd party candidate except for your own peace of mind. Youre better off supporting someone with libertarian beliefs that is in one of the 2 major parties and uses that party as a vehicle to get in the debates. Supporting a Libertarian party candidate is sadly an utter waste of time unless they have 20 billion dollars to self fund their campaign and buy tv spots like Ross Perot. Thats not just my opinion, its a fact that cannot be overlooked if youre being honest with yourself.

Im just glad that Ron Paul had the common sense to run as a Republican and at least be able to get into the debates. Thats the only thing thats giving him a chance. If he ran as a libertarian, theres NO WAY he would get any media coverage or debate time for people to even see him.

Thats a sad fact in America right now..........................


but Ron might help change that if he wins ;)

[Daveforliberty]

Classical liberal

[oldpaths1611]

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just as long as I'm the dictator...." :D

[austinphish]

Constitutionalist
Libertarian
Classical Liberal
Anti-Neocon
Anti-Socialist Democrat

[Original_Intent]

Constitutionalist
Independent American
paleoconservative

[hells_unicorn]

Extreme Minarchist Libertarian, I support Courts, smaller military, police force, and that is about it. I would favor a constitutional amendment banning eminent domain and 100% privatizing utilities (no subsidies or government complicity).

[kaligula]

Libertarian Party...used to be a republican

Philosophically, more or less a classical liberal along the lines as elucidated by Friedman and Hayek.

[Craig_R]

card carrying libertarian due to lack of choices, more of a constitutionalist.

[Duckman]

Moderate-to-left libertarian.

I am totally 100% libertarian on social issues. Do what you will as long as you don't harm me I think is a good mantra.

On economic issues... I am mostly libertarian but I don't think all regulation can be done away with, particularly not that concerning the environment or public health, and I think the government needs to care for invalids who can't support themselves due to mental or physical handicaps. But I still consider myself "libertarian" economically because I would still cut about 90% of it all. :rolleyes:

[ShaneC]

Is "Torn" an option?

I support some socialist views. I'd like to see the people that need help receive help on a limited basis. I support "welfare" but not a "welfare state".

I believe in privacy and freedom of choice, free will, and all that.

I believe in a civic and societal duty to help out our neighbors WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES AND COUNTRY.

I do not believe in spreading the American Dream via force. I believe in the will of the people.

I am what I am. I don't know what I am.

[Phil M]

Libertarian with some objectivist sympathies, and an ever-growing respect for paleolibertarianism (though I would never consider myself one due to differing cultural views).

[MsDoodahs]

Anarchist :)

[Revolution9]

Orthodox human being of the natural law platform.

Best Regards
Randy

[CJLauderdale4]

Wow!! Lots of diversity!! And thus, the beauty of Ron's message of liberty and less government.

I'm a Constitutionalist, and a member of the Constitution Party.

[LibertyCzar]

I'm a pragmatic and independent libertarian, posing as a registered Republican, stirred up enough to want to throw any bum out of any office. Thank goodness for Ron Paul! Now I can actually vote for someone from the same party I am registered with. :D

[TexMac]

Anarchist/Left-libertarian (http://all-left.net/)

[AMack]

Former neoconservative. Threw my support behind Ron after I found out about him through a moderate liberal friend (also a supporter). Now I'm a paleoconservative.

[thomaspaine23]

Classical Liberal ala

Paine and Jefferson.

I guess that makes me a

Constitutionalist and a PaleoConservative as well....

[Silverback]

I like paleo-libertarian as labels go. Democratic-Republican party gets blank stares.

Jeffersonian republican fits too, or of late Republican Liberty Caucus.

Fortunately now there's an easy solution to this problem, and soon every American will know precisely what I mean.

I'm a Ron Paul Republican

[Noodles]

Well, let me see:

I'm NOT any of these:

Feminist
Whig
Dixiecrat
PLO
Labour

I used to be one of these:

Late Reagan - Early Neocon Republican


One month ago I was:

Constitutional Objectivist


Today, by God, I am a:

RON PAUL REPUBLICAN

[LibertyCzar]

As President, Ron Paul should sign an executive order to throw all the so-called Republicans in Congress out of the party for giving the party a bad name. They should be branded the Neocons. :D

[Rocky Mtn Liberty Lover]

Tradionalist, but an ignorant one - after learning more, I know realize that I am Libertarian in nature.

[Delaware]

Paleo-conservative

*small government
*non-intervention
*pro gun
*border security
*less legal immigration
*anti-abortion

[DAZ]

Pragmatic libertarian/Goldwater conservative

Personally, I think the "movement for liberty" (whatever you want to call it) suffers from too much nitpicking and not enough unity. When we have atrocities like the Patriot Act, does it really matter if you and I disagree on the government's role (or lack of one) in building roads? We must win the big battles to begin the move towards less government before that will even be a pertinent issue. I believe one of the real problems with the Libertarian Party is it's refusal to adopt a big tent platform.

You and I may disagree on certain issues, but we sure as hell disagree with Billary and Rudy McRomson a lot more. Remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Not that I think anybody's arguing here. I just think that focusing on our differences rather than our similarities is a mistake. And, at this point, an exercise in futility.

[Bojangleman]

I'm registered with the Libertarian Party (although I can vote in the MT GOP primaries), and am a minarchist libertarian. Although I'm getting closer and closer to the anarcho capitalists as time goes on and frustration builds.

[rodent]

I am just curious as to how the Ron Paul supporters in this forum describe themselves politically. Are you conservatives (paleo, neo, traditionalist), libertarians (zero government or minarchist), constitutionalist, liberals or leftists?

pro-choice / moderate pro-gun / pro-free market / anti-taxes / pro animal-rights

Fairly conservative aside from the abortion thing.

I'd be willing to support a pro-life candidate if he'll get rid of the death penalty. I think the death penalty is terrible policy. I just have issues with the lack of consistency with regards to abortion and the death penalty.

I don't value the life of a few cells on my skin. As far as I'm concerned, the very early stages of meiosis aren't very different from the mitosis of my skin cells. There's no collective conscience or cognitive ability while the cells are only a few in number. It's only when cells reach critical mass are the information processing abilities of humans substantial enough to declare something "life."

I think the pro-life argument is created by politically motivated religious leaders. If they maintained consistency on the death penalty, I'd give more weight to their position.

[Thomas_Paine]

RP Libertarian (I would very much like to see no government, but will have to wait till the next life).

[maiki]

Pro-life (consistent ethic of life, not just abortion) Libertarian (minarchist, not anarchist) / Moderate (not pure libertarian)

[mikelovesgod]

I think the pro-life argument is created by politically motivated religious leaders. If they maintained consistency on the death penalty, I'd give more weight to their position.

So pro-life atheists are religious leaders? Since when?

Taking innocent life vs. justice against a criminal is different in intentionality. Killing a man who is about to kill your family, and killing a man on a joy ride are 2 different things.

[nayjevin]

anarchy would provide the maximum liberty and the least amount of suffering in the world, IMO.

here's why:

a set of rules governing me is 100% agreed upon
a set of rules governing me and you might be 95% agreed upon
a set of rules governing 3 of us might be 90% agreed upon
etc

we can only set rules via personal contracts that can be 100% agreed upon, or some under the system's rules rights will be infringed.

therefore, government doesn't work, except as self government

all ills of society should be solved through private charity
it is more efficient and sincere than any government plan

national defense -- easy. volunteer, just like we are here to defend RP
this grassroots campaign is true anarchy
the internet is true anarchy
free market is true anarchy
woodstock was true anarchy

these things work, because there is no government involvement.

anarchy just works!
government just doesnt!

http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

[Delivered4000]

*Small government
*Pro-Gun
*Anti-Authoritarian
*Low taxes
*Minarchist
*Sound Money
*Non-Interventionist
*Secular (wall of seperation)

[Delivered4000]

It is also worth it to note that I have been influenced by Paul on Sound Money Policy (and I'm not even quite decided because there are little who know how the Federal reserve and fiat money system really operates under different circumstances).

It is strange that my transformation from mild socialism to where I am now has been complete just in time for Ron Paul. Good timing, Ron.

[Spatch67]

I'm for whatever the Hobbits are for. Usually beer, gardening, and bright colors. I dislike boats and have a dislike for strangers and meddlers.

[beermotor]

Anarcho-capitalist, viking independent.

[agisthos]

Libertarian

[LibertyOfOne]

Minarchist

[Buzz]

Pretty moderate overall, but I usually feel strongly one way or the other on any given issue.

[nexalacer]

I recommend the site www.politicalcompass.org for a quick and informative test about true politcal leanings.

As for me, a few months ago, I was approx -4 on the economic scale meaning I was pretty much left, but with some rightist economic policies that I had gotten from a love of Ayn Rand's novels. At the same time I was -7 on the social scale, meaning I'm a social anarchist/libertarian, whatever you wanna call it. Basically, government and social issues should not ever touch each other, imo.

After the Ron Paul epiphany, I have remained exactly where I have always been on the social scale (actually maybe a little MORE anarchist as I am now at -7.90 on said scale). As far as the economic side of things, I have moved a little right of center, at 0.46. I used to think that government could fix some economic problems, but listening to Dr. Paul made me realize the hypocrisy of my previous thinking. If I can't trust the government to make proper decisions about social issues, how can I trust them to make proper decisions about economic issues that effect social problems?

I'm still not entirely convinced that I can trust corporations to do the right thing, but if we can create a truly free market where those corporate pig-fuckers (Enron, Haliburton, et al.) don't get corporate welfare, then maybe corporations can also be socially responsible on their own. Also, once we stop recognizing corporations as PEOPLE (WTF?!), then they can stop taking the rights that natural law should only give to people.

[Joe Knows]

I am a constitutional anarchist.

[mport1]

I am just curious as to how the Ron Paul supporters in this forum describe themselves politically. Are you conservatives (paleo, neo, traditionalist), libertarians (zero government or minarchist), constitutionalist, liberals or leftists?

I am a card carrying member of the LP and consider myself a minarchist (although I am moving towards advocating less and less government every day).

[kimosabi]

Well I'm a RonPaularian or RonPaulocrat or RonPaulican, take your pick...

[lynnf]

I am just curious as to how the Ron Paul supporters in this forum describe themselves politically. Are you conservatives (paleo, neo, traditionalist), libertarians (zero government or minarchist), constitutionalist, liberals or leftists?

I'd say traditionalist conservative, if I understand the term properly. As in meaning old-style conservative - small government, individual freedom,
constitutionalist.

lynn

[AZ Libertarian]

I'm what Michael Badnarik terms a "Liberty-tarian".

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"Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they atropy and die."

[Bob Cochran]

I am an indepedent in mind, heart and soul, but a registered Republican.

I consider myself conservative but far, far from today's neocon Republicans, who are fiscally as liberal as anyone has ever been.

I guess lynnf's description fits me: "old-style conservative - small government, individual freedom, constitutionalist."

As a five-year Army vet, I'm as angry as can be at the pro-war chickenhawks who think they are the gatekeepers of patriotism.

[mconder]

Another vote for Jeffersonian Constitutionalist here.

[BuddyRey]

I usually call myself a Liberal Populist or Left-Leaning Libertarian, because I support state and local government regulation of big business for environmental and anti-trust reasons, but still believe a generally free market is the best solution. I also value social justice and ending poverty, but through Ron Paul and Aaron Russo, I've also found out that Income Tax is being levied illegally, by an illegitimate Central Bank, and on a Federal level, when I believe it should be more localized, and perhaps even made voluntary.

[PennCustom4RP]

* Small government
* Constitutionist
* Anti-Authoritarian
* Low taxes
* Sound Money
* Green environmentally
* Pro-Gun
* Pro Militia
* Absolute border security
* Less legal immigration
* Strong military on US soil (only)
* Non-Interventionist
* Somewhat separatist/protectionist/isolationist
* Secular (I am non-theist/agnostic)
* English as National language

I also feel if the US weren't the world police, engaged in senseless wars, building nations and supporting every country worldwide, the US would have the ability to finance excellent healthcare for every US citizen.

This is what I am, whatever its called.

~Mik

[Sammy]

Independent Paleo-Conservative/Libertarian
*Non Interventionist Foreign Policy
*Low Taxes...Abolish the income Tax with tariffs
*Anti-FED...Pro Gold Standard
*100% pro 2nd Amendment
*Against illegal immigrantion & less legal immigration