Paul campaign needs to attack amnesty bill, and NAMU now.

[paulitics]

There are no other credible candidates to speak out against the amnesty bill or NAMU. People are sick of insiders who say one thing and do another. Ron Paul needs to campaign against this and make it his central issue. He is impeccable on this and has never waivered., something RudyMcromsen can't touch. He has 80% of the country agreeing on this issue, and in recent surveys they rank this as the number one issue facing this country today. He can pull democrats and republicans together. I may be wrong, but I am beginning to think he could win the election on this issue. The Iraq war today, is not firing people up as much anymore, and unfortunately the majority of Repubs still disagree on his foreign policy

I know his views on immigration and national sovereignty have been stated, but they are not reaching loudly and clearly enough. We need to organize to get this message out to the mainstream. Once the CFR and NAMU is fully exposed, his other ideas (abolishing the IRS) may seem less radical. But as of now, he can't win talking about fringe ideas alone.

[LibertyEagle]

By NAMU, are you talking about the North American Union?

You know, there are a lot of people out there who consider any talk about the CFR to be conspiracy talk. If we raise this point, we may just dilute the rest of what we are saying. At this point, is there a dire need to expose the CFR?

If what we're after is trying to get Dr. Paul's stance on amnesty out to the public, maybe we should focus on that and possibly the SPP and it's apparent fast-track in section 413 of the immigration bill. It's easy to pull up a few FOIA docs on Judicial Watch and show how nasty the SPP is. These things are provable.

I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.

[fedup100]

I absolutely agree, he is missing a wonderful opportunity to win people over to his side.

He is to passive about these critical issues.

[mikelovesgod]

There is one thing I agree with you, but he shouldn't pull a Tancredo, it will look cheap and shallow. He needs to show why Tancredo, Rudy McRomneyson, et al. are hallow arguments because they want to shut up the borders, but not the reason why they want to come here.

He should be slightly acerbic, argumentative, and agitated. He should look upset and frustrated that the government is not listening to the people who elected them. I believe it will resonate deeply. His typical approach of seeming academic and placid I don't think will get enough attention. He has to get upset with these people.

If those are don't agree with him on foreign policy hear his domestic policy he will win people foreign and domestic. :)

[LibertyEagle]

Mike:

I agree. My favorite debate was the first one, because I loved seeing the fire come out of his eyes and him raising his voice, while keeping it deep, on a couple of issues. If he would do that on this issue, he would win a lot over. The American people love a show of strength, backed up by wisdom.

[Alabama Supporter]

Immigration could be a winning issue in the South for sure. As a matter of fact, almost ALL Republicans consider immigration more important than the Iraq occupation.

[angrydragon]

NAU is NAFTA correct?

No, NAU is like NAFTA, more like NAFTA on steroids.

[aravoth]

NAU is NAFTA correct?

Kinda, it's NAFTA on about 400 kilos of crack, large, fast, chaotic, and deadly in the end.

[angrydragon]

NAMU? you mean NAU?

[LibertyEagle]

NAU is NAFTA correct?

Here are a few links for you:
http://www.stopthenau.org/
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/
http://stopspp.com/stopspp/
http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/NAU/
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15954
http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml

[rg123]

I posted about this this morning and the CFR is a reality not a conspiracy theory
upwards of 80 % want the bill stopped S1639=NAU it is an intergration bill not an immigration here is info from the CFR

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf



Here is a database with many links and mapped plans for the NAU The Mexican trucks are allready being used in the USA for what is allready happening including
Air photos for construction and the Kansas city ports that will spilt the entire country Ron Paul has spoken about the NAU publicly for many years and is missing a golden opportunity C-span should be called every morning that is where the old vote is. "THEY WATCH" Because the American people do not want this and if it goes through America is finished. I hope it is stopped now not in the house

http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/NAU/

[LibertyEagle]

rg123, there is a thread about the CFR in Hot Topics, if you're interested.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=4133

[paulitics]

"You know, there are a lot of people out there who consider any talk about the CFR to be conspiracy talk. If we raise this point, we may just dilute the rest of what we are saying. At this point, is there a dire need to expose the CFR?"

The CFR news is breaking through now that Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs have millions of listeners/viewers an they discuss it openly.

The reason it should be brought up is that every major candidate but Paul is a CFR member. This will raise the eyebrows of millions of people and will shed the light as to why this shamnesty bill is being steamrolled without the consent of the public. It will put RudyMcRomney in a negative light, and could translate into millions of votes and newly awakened people.

THe elites have shown their cards on this one, and millions of people are wondering what is going on with the blatent lies and secrecy behind the bill.

It is a much harder sale to talk about abolishing dpts like homeland security and dpt of education than to to talk about the nefariousness of this Amnesty bill and special interests behind it. 80% of Americans hate this Bill and want answers to this hijacking of democracy.

[LibertyEagle]

"
The CFR news is breaking through now that Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs have millions of listeners/viewers an they discuss it openly.

In the article from this morning, when Glenn and Lou were talking about the amnesty/spp deal, the CFR was not mentioned.
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/06272007a.shtml

[sandersondavis]

<Lots of good stuff clipped>
But as of now, he can't win talking about fringe ideas alone.

I'd like to remind everyone that the Ron Paul campaign knows full well what they are doing. Let them do what they do best while we do what we do best. Our job is best described as one of many individuals taking individual action to achieve a shared goal.

Now go out an do something. :)
Suggestion -- get a bumper sticker now and :D donate.

[rg123]

rg123, there is a thread about the CFR in Hot Topics, if you're interested.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=4133

Thx for the link Lib so good stuff there:)

[paulitics]

"In the article from this morning, when Glenn and Lou were talking about the amnesty/spp deal, the CFR was not mentioned."
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/06272007a.shtml

That was just during that segmant but he did mention the CFR at other times during the program.

Lou Dobbs with CFR North American Union architect. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qKvqv3rF2CY

[Wyurm]

I didnt see this link up there, if it was, sorry. http://www.spp.gov/

[paulitics]

Lou Dobbs ripping them here, and RP makes an appearance.

very good video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kjsy2Z3kdI&mode=related&search=

[LibertyEagle]

Yes, but most people see the CFR as a think-tank with no impact on the government.

[buffalokid777]

Yes, but most people see the CFR as a think-tank with no impact on the government.

That's one of the problems.....

There are multiple instances of the cfr making recommedations and then being soon implemented as policy in the US....including the spp and the current imigration bill.....

People are starting to wake up to certain NGOs, and their effect on US policy.....

The public knows something is wrong in what's going on in goverment......look at approval ratings of congress and bush.......

The smart internet saavy users are able to connect the dots in larger numbers.....

But the MSM only folks aren't since they're spoonfed what to think.....but even despite that, more and more of em are starting to figure out something is really wrong in what's going on in our government.

Ron Paul should definately in the next debate go harder after illegal immigration and point out how Bush through Chertoff is stalling on building the 874 miles of fence he authorized but refuses to build....it will win supporters just like being against staying in Iraq......

[winston84]

As far as stopping illegal immigration Tancredo is the poster child for that issue, although from what I've seen the general audience needs to hear more of what RP has to say on that. None of the candidates have touched the NAU, RP has and he needs to keep it up.

[Man from La Mancha]

never mind

[LibertyEagle]

Ron can make some very strong points on immigration/SPP/NAU and get a number of new converts. However, he's going to need to put together some hard-hitting proof that he can deliver in a very short amount of time. He won't have 10 minutes to explain it.

That's why I think the CFR should be left out of it, at this point. Unless he just mentions the CFR's "Building a North American Community" in passing.