Republicans realize withdrawel from Iraq may be key for winning in 2008

[akalucas]

An excerpt in this article caught my eye and proves to me that the republican party as a whole knows that if Bush continues with his policy in Iraq it will cost the republicans the white house and many seats. It also show me that Ron Paul is heading in the right direction to get elected and the neocons know it.

Excerpt: "In fact, in the position paper Voinovich sent to Bush, called "The Way Forward in Iraq," he cited the possibility that voters might elect a president in 2008 who would promise an immediate withdrawal from Iraq as a reason to change course"

Article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/27/iraq.gop.dissent/index.html

[LibertyEagle]

Wonderful!! :D

[MGS]

Thats what i try to tell neo-cons i talk with.. theres no way a pro-war repub is beating any democrat regardless of their views.

[yongrel]

pip pip!

[angrydragon]

Only Ron Paul said it first, now everyone else in the party is starting to realize the fact.

[Alabama Supporter]

The sad part is that troops have been dying everyday while these goobers knew the surge wouldn't work.

Not sure why there is no outrage that these guys are playing a purely political calendar. Wow they know how to "support the troops".

[austin356]

It really is starting to happen as we type. If you read this RP thread on Hannity, you can see a noticeable difference between May/Early June/Now. The mainline conservatives know, in their head (but dont want to admit it) that he is the only one that can be the HC (who they have built up as the devil for the last 15 years). They are also becoming more rational towards his views.

http://hannity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259578

We need to really make sure people do not think he will weaken our national security, only realign it. Instead of gaining safety by offensive arms (doesnt bring safety, especially long term), he will bring safety through "carry a big stick, little mouth". At least that is the perception that he has to gain with mainline republicans for him to win.

You really can understand a lot about what conservatives are thinking by reading these threads. At first they yelled at him. Second they discredited him. Now they listen to him but say, but......(this/that). Soon they will be "well its him or HC", and his views are not "that bad". Then it will be ok, this guy really does have some good ideas, and should be given at least a chance to implement them.

[PatriotOne]

An excerpt in this article caught my eye and proves to me that the republican party as a whole knows that if Bush continues with his policy in Iraq it will cost the republicans the white house and many seats. It also show me that Ron Paul is heading in the right direction to get elected and the neocons know it.

Excerpt: "In fact, in the position paper Voinovich sent to Bush, called "The Way Forward in Iraq," he cited the possibility that voters might elect a president in 2008 who would promise an immediate withdrawal from Iraq as a reason to change course"

Article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/27/iraq.gop.dissent/index.html

This may just be the start of a propaganda campaign to make the Iraq War look like a non-issue. Give the appearance that the war is ending, so many can feel secure to vote without that being their central motivation on who to vote for.

I, for one, am going to wait to see what they actually do, as opposed to what they just say they are going to do.

[angrydragon]

Even with the pressure, I doubt Bush and Cheney will stop, but continue to push the war on terror in Iraq.

[PatriotOne]

Even with the pressure, I doubt Bush and Cheney will stop, but continue to push the war on terror in Iraq.

Did you mean "discontinue" the war on terror?

[PatriotOne]

Did you mean "discontinue" the war on terror?


LOL...never mind. I see you fixed it.

[angrydragon]

Hehe, my hands aren't as fast as my mind. I tend to miss words when I type.

[Man from La Mancha]

Who cares what the liars say. The Democrats proved they don't follow thru and most Republican won't either

That is why only Ron can be trusted

Great campaign ads would show quick clips of what most politicians say over their careers and then show Pual over the years, this one tactic would be useful against all opponents

[Bradley in DC]

Hehe, my hands aren't as fast as my mind. I tend to miss words when I type.

I almost always have to go back and edit/correct my posts for that reason. [reading this one first BEFORE I hit "Submit Reply."]

[Man from La Mancha]

I almost always have to go back and edit/correct my posts for that reason. [reading this one first BEFORE I hit "Submit Reply."]


Tell me about it, I go over them many times and still miss stuff

[Dary]

I don't see how any of the current crop of candidates can now, all of a sudden, switch positions on the war.

[Original_Intent]

I expect Flip Romney to try. It would be inconsistent if he had one principle that he stood his ground on.

[Dary]

I expect Flip Romney to try. It would be inconsistent if he had one principle that he stood his ground on.

Give me a minute while I try to process that.

[torchbearer]

They can switch.. and the MSM will treat them like nothing even happened... like they were always anti-war... and then, drown out ron paul

[AMack]

Someone needs to post on Hannity's boards with a link to Fred Thompson's voting record. He is not a conservative by any stretch, yet they worship him and call him one. He voted for TONS of big government crap during his time in Congress.

[JaylieWoW]

This is statement is what one person on that thread continues to spew:

"And our foreign operations around the world to maintain our empire is now approaching $1 trillion a year. That's where the money is going and that's where it has to be cut so we can take care of education and medical cares that are needed here in this country."

The assertion is being made this indicates Ron is in favor of socialist programs while professing to oppose them, thus "no different".

Overall though, outside of the "career" cyberbullies, most of the anti-Paul at least offered reasonable concerns rather than outright hostility (and immediate accusations of venturing on the net without a tin foil hat).