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enhanced_deficit
12-20-2014, 10:46 AM
This is just a speculative question at this point based on recent past history of events.
In related news, Sony co-chairman Amy Pascal is meeting with Al Sharpton to start "healing" after her leaked racist emails about Obama were reported in news after the hack.




Obama slams Sony, takes aim at North Korea
Politico-7 hours ago
President Barack Obama said Friday that Sony erred in choosing not to ... If a leader like North Korea's Kim Jong Un is able to inspire such ...

North Korea says it's not involved in Sony hack; proposes joint probe with US
North Korea says it can prove it is not behind the massive Sony Pictures cyberattack that has led to several e-mail leaks, threats on movie theaters ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/20/north-korea-says-it-not-involved-in-sony-hack-proposes-joint-probe-with-us/



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by Noah Rothman | 12:30 pm, April 29th, 2014
http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/liars-benghazi1-e1350921614537.jpg (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463969-Guardians-of-Peace-hacks-Hollywood-movies&)





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By Todd Cunningham and Sharon Waxman on November 28, 2014

Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement
August 23, 2014

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2014/08/pro-israel-anti-hamas-618x400.jpg

Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support

pcosmar
12-20-2014, 11:27 AM
No. not exactly.

but there is a lot of weird stupidity with this one.

The movie is not only a lame comedy,, but is deliberately provocative and insulting.
Sony has many enemies . They earned them. It could be several that are far better off than NK,, but since they just insulted them they decide to insult them again.
This plays into the internet regulation that Sony has supported.

I believe it may be playing into a larger TPP game.. I guess it just sucks to be a Korean.

ChristianAnarchist
12-20-2014, 06:00 PM
It is likely disgruntled ex employees who did this, not NK. Wouldn't it be a bitch if they find out who did it and it had nothing to do with the Kim worm??

enhanced_deficit
12-21-2014, 07:36 AM
So consensus seems to be that swc team's claims on this are not factual.

But let's wait till No Such Agentry has spoken on this.



Stasi: No way North Korea could hack Sony

If you think North Korea pulled off that massive cyber attack against Sony alone, raise your hand. If you swear they had nothing to do with it, raise your hand.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, December 21, 2014, 12:59 AM
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052409.1419142703%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/article-kim-jong-illustration-1220.jpg New York Daily News photo illustration Kim Jong Un has as much chance of launching this cyberhack as Kim Kardashian has of fitting into a coach airline seat.

The movie’s un-release is such a big deal that on Friday even President Obama condemned Sony for bagging the movie, and suggested that Sony should have spoken to him first.

And who exactly at Sony would have made that call — Amy Pascal?


“Hi, President Django? Amy Pascal here.”
“Who?”
“‘12 Years a Slave,’Amy?”
“Oh you. No! I won’t park your car.”
“Legitimate mistake. Black guy. Parking lot. Bow tie?”


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-no-north-korea-hack-sony-article-1.2052367

Warrior_of_Freedom
12-21-2014, 01:51 PM
No. not exactly.

but there is a lot of weird stupidity with this one.

The movie is not only a lame comedy,, but is deliberately provocative and insulting.
Sony has many enemies . They earned them. It could be several that are far better off than NK,, but since they just insulted them they decide to insult them again.
This plays into the internet regulation that Sony has supported.

I believe it may be playing into a larger TPP game.. I guess it just sucks to be a Korean.
August 26, 2014

Sony's PlayStation Network has once again become the target of a cyberattack, and to make matters worse, a bomb threat posted on Twitter by a hacking group disrupted an executive's travel plans.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/sony-playstation-network-struck-by-ddos-attack-bomb-threat-grounds-executive/
Sony has been DDOS/Hacked on a consistent basis the past few years.

Brian4Liberty
12-21-2014, 01:56 PM
Seems like the movie theory is an afterthought, just like it was with Benghazi.

maybemaybenot
12-21-2014, 02:26 PM
This is just a speculative question at this point based on recent past history of events.
In related news, Sony co-chairman Amy Pascal is meeting with Al Sharpton to start "healing" after her leaked racist emails about Obama were reported in news after the hack.




Obama slams Sony, takes aim at North Korea
Politico-7 hours ago
President Barack Obama said Friday that Sony erred in choosing not to ... If a leader like North Korea's Kim Jong Un is able to inspire such ...

North Korea says it's not involved in Sony hack; proposes joint probe with US
North Korea says it can prove it is not behind the massive Sony Pictures cyberattack that has led to several e-mail leaks, threats on movie theaters ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/20/north-korea-says-it-not-involved-in-sony-hack-proposes-joint-probe-with-us/



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'Guardians of Peace' hacks Hollywood movies (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463969-Guardians-of-Peace-hacks-Hollywood-movies&)

Sony Struggles to Fight #GOP Hackers Who Claim Stolen Data Includes Stars’ IDs, Budget and Contract Figures
By Todd Cunningham and Sharon Waxman on November 28, 2014

Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement
August 23, 2014

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2014/08/pro-israel-anti-hamas-618x400.jpg

Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support

"President Barack Obama said Friday that Sony erred in choosing not to ... If a leader"

You deliberately misquoted Obama in order to justify your totally deceitful headline. Obama is not blaming the movie for the Sony hack at all, Obama said Sony erred in canceling the movie release. Obama's idiotic mistake here is that Sony didn't pull the movie, the theaters did. Obama is an idiot. He puts rhetoric and symbolism above reality no matter what the topic is. Now he plays this victim-blaming bullshit when he's supposed to be the top law enforcement officer in the US. Not only is Sony pushing to get the movie out there, they're the ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS MOVIE OUT THERE. The theaters don't, online distributors don't, Sony is the entity that wants this movie out there. And even if they DIDN'T want to release the movie, this wouldn't mean they caved on free speech, free speech is based on how our govt enforces free speech by responding to North Korea. Lol if someone kills another person, it doesn't mean that the victim ruined it for everyone by making murder legal. The government has to respond to show that the law has teeth.

enhanced_deficit
12-22-2014, 12:02 AM
Seems like the movie theory is an afterthought, just like it was with Benghazi.

Seems that way.

kpitcher
12-22-2014, 12:35 AM
http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/

Interesting read.. the hackers never mentioned the movie in their initial contact with Sony

enhanced_deficit
12-22-2014, 11:16 AM
http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/

Interesting read.. the hackers never mentioned the movie in their initial contact with Sony

Movie shtick may be an attempt to hide real story.





'Guardians of Peace' hacks Hollywood movies (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463969-Guardians-of-Peace-hacks-Hollywood-movies&)

Sony Struggles to Fight #GOP Hackers Who Claim Stolen Data Includes Stars’ IDs, Budget and Contract Figures
By Todd Cunningham and Sharon Waxman on November 28, 2014

Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement
August 23, 2014

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2014/08/pro-israel-anti-hamas-618x400.jpg

Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support



This did not get much coverage in uncontrolled US media but in the light of recent Sony hack news, this news may have more significance.

Gaza Anonymous Hacking Attack Shuts Down 'Hundreds' Of Israeli Government Websites

Huffington Post UK | By Louise Ridley
05/08/2014 18:05 BST Updated: 06/08/2014 09:59 BST

The hacking collective Anonymous has warned it will launch more attacks on Israeli government websites after apparently disabling more than 500, in a wave of cyber offensives which it says are in retaliation for Israel’s bombardment of Gaza (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/gaza/).
It also claims to have leaked personal details of 70,000 users of the Israeli government jobseeker website zerem.co.il.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1948694/thumbs/o-PROTESTERS-WEARING-ANONYMOUS-MASKS-570.jpg
Pro-Palestinian protesters in France wearing the iconic Guy Fawkes mask, which has become symbolic of Anonymous
The hacking onslaught began at the weekend, with Anonymous claiming to have broken through complex cyber security for sites including some connected to Israeli Defence Force and Mossad, the Israeli secret service. Its attacks are being focused on websites using the gov.il and .il domains, the collective says.
A spokesman for Anonymous told The Huffington Post UK in broken English via Twitter: “I'm doing this for the Palestinian. The Israeli government must pay by the WHAT is he doing with the people Palestinian. [sic]”
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1948605/thumbs/o-ANONYMOUS-HACKED-HUNDREDS-OF-ISRAELI-WEBSITES-570.jpg

'Tango Down': A tweet from an Anonymous hacker claiming to have taken down an Israeli government website
Anonymous had previously announced that it is planning eight days of strikes on the websites, but the spokesman added that they “did not know” when the attacks would end and “more attacks” could come on Tuesday. Tweets from one of its accounts said Israel had experienced just "a small fraction" of its anger.
Some, including the main government website gov.il, the legal website court.gov.il and the defense websites israeldefense.com and israeldefense.co.il appeared to still be down at the time of writing.
The Anonymous spokesman acknowledged that many of the websites had since been restored. A spokesman for Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netenyahu said he was unaware of the attacks.
The Twitter account @anonymousglobo listed sites as they were disabled, along with the phrase “tango down”.
The attack is also a reaction to the death in the West Bank of Tayyeb Shehadah, a 22-year-old who was wearing the iconic Guy Fawkes mask, which has become symbolic of Anonymous, when he was killed, reportedly by an Israeli soldier.
The attack is a reflection of the growing momentum of the digital aspect to the Gaza conflict, with the IDF also prolific in using the internet and social media to promote its perspective.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...n_5650652.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/05/gaza-anonymous-hacking-at_n_5650652.html)



Anonymous hacker group attacks Israeli websites


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64188000/jpg/_64188038_anonpress.jpg Anonymous announced its attacks via Twitter


Hacking group Anonymous has launched a series of cyber attacks against websites in Israel.
Data bombardments briefly knocked some sites offline and led to others being defaced with pro-Palestinian messages.
The OpIsrael campaign was launched by the hacking collective in retaliation for attacks on Gaza.
The cyber attacks come as the Israeli army updates its web campaign adding "achievements" and "badges" for regular visitors.


Anonymous said it had launched the OpIsrael campaign following threats by the Israeli government to cut all Gaza's telecommunication links. This, said the group in a statement posted to the AnonRelations website (http://anonrelations.net/opisrael-95/), "crossed a line in the sand".
"We are ANONYMOUS and NO ONE shuts down the Internet on our watch," it said.
The group warned the Israeli government not to cut off telecom and web links and urged it to end military operations in Gaza. If the attacks did not end, Israel would feel the group's "full and unbridled wrath".

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-20356757


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Anonymous 'knocks out' Mossad website over Israel’s Gaza offensive (http://rt.com/news/176888-anonymous-hacks-mossad-site/)
Published time: July 31, 2014 06:18 Jul 31, 2014 - Hacker group Anonymous has reportedly taken down the website of the Israeli secret service Mossad in protest of Israel's military incursion in ...

enhanced_deficit
12-31-2014, 01:36 PM
Here they go again, Drudge's top headline on new years eve:



Feds warn of more leaks...



http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608000230883263594&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
SONY HACKERS: MEDIA NEXT!

http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2017, 11:01 AM
It's been quite a while and media still has not reported how many of the 17 agencies had concluded above finding.