What the hell is this flap over the movie "The Interview"?

[Anti Federalist]

Shows you how out of touch I am...

But am I understanding this right?

The film is pulled and cannot be seen because of threats from North Korea?

Because of "safety"?


On December 17, 2014, after a number of major North American cinema chains pulled the film in the interests of safety, Sony cancelled the theatrical release of The Interview and stated that it had no plans to release the film by any other means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interview_%282014_film%29

Really?

I mean...really?

Safety?

[nobody's_hero]

Yep. I'm just getting word of it too. Supposedly some hackers in North Korea where the internet runs on 28K modems and DOS threatened to start a cyber war with Sony and any theatres that showed the movie.

[specsaregood]

yeah and according to our FBI they hacked sony. you know what it all reminds me of? that fake story after the Libya attack about it being because of a movie.

[CPUd]

Shows you how out of touch I am...

But am I understanding this right?

The film is pulled and cannot be seen because of threats from North Korea?

Because of "safety"?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interview_%282014_film%29

Really?

I mean...really?

Safety?

It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.

[Henry Rogue]

Yep, the movie is a slapstick comedy about the cia convincing some tv personality (the interviewer) to kill the leader of north korea. Sony is the producer of the movie and they got cyber attached. So now the movie is pulled.

[BV2]

Takes pressure off police militarization, and puts it on another unrelated topic. More than that I am sure.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Yep. I'm just getting word of it too. Supposedly some hackers in North Korea where the internet runs on 28K modems and DOS threatened to start a cyber war with Sony and any theatres that showed the movie.

I read a long time ago North Korea's internet infrastructure is so bad that their website is hosted in China

[Anti Federalist]

It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.

So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.

[Spikender]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?465093-The-Evidence-That-North-Korea-Hacked-Sony-Is-Flimsy

Best topic on this right now.

[KCIndy]

So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.

The cowardice runs even deeper. The *excuse* Sony used to pull the movie was concern over the safety of patrons at the theaters. The conventional wisdom on this was that the corporate bigwigs were worried that the worst and most incriminating emails from the cyber-hack had not been made public.... yet.

[CaptUSA]

Yeah, haven't been paying much attention either...

It seems like someone decided the US Government needed more public support to take over the internet. You know... for "safety".

[Ronin Truth]

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=the+interview+news&gbv=2&oq=%22The+Interview%22&gs_l=heirloom-hp.1.6.0j0i3l2j0i10i3j0i3l6.68370219.68379782.0.68 386610.15.14.0.0.0.0.875.4641.5-4j3.7.0.msedr...0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-hp..9.6.4110.UhEGCrF_aZo

[otherone]

A CIA/NSA
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608009194463037182&pid=15.1&P=0
PRODUCTION

[AngryCanadian]

A Flap over a low budget trash film is getting ridicules.

Doesn't the idiotic westren news media have anything else better to report?

[heavenlyboy34]

A Flap over a low budget trash film is getting ridicules.

Doesn't the idiotic westren news media have anything else better to report?

No. 24/7 "news" cycles means they have to make up trash to fill air time.

[enhanced_deficit]

Two cents.

'Guardians of Peace' hacks Hollywood movies (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463969-Guardians-of-Peace-hacks-Hollywood-movies&)

Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement
August 23, 2014

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2014/08/pro-israel-anti-hamas-618x400.jpg


Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support

Gaza Anonymous Hacking Attack Shuts Down 'Hundreds' Of Israeli Government Websites

Huffington Post UK | By Louise Ridley
05/08/2014 18:05 BST Updated: 06/08/2014 09:59 BST

The hacking collective Anonymous has warned it will launch more attacks on Israeli government websites after apparently disabling more than 500, in a wave of cyber offensives which it says are in retaliation for Israel’s bombardment of Gaza (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/gaza/).
It also claims to have leaked personal details of 70,000 users of the Israeli government jobseeker website zerem.co.il.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1948694/thumbs/o-PROTESTERS-WEARING-ANONYMOUS-MASKS-570.jpg
Pro-Palestinian protesters in France wearing the iconic Guy Fawkes mask, which has become symbolic of Anonymous

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/05/gaza-anonymous-hacking-at_n_5650652.html


http://www.debbieschlussel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/anonymousantiisrael.jpg

Is "blame the movie for Sony hack" another "blame the video for Benghazi" moment for Obama? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?465228-Is-quot-blame-the-movie-for-Sony-hack-quot-another-quot-blame-the-video-for-Benghazi-quot-moment-for-Obama&)


http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/liars-benghazi1-e1350921614537.jpg


Stasi: No way North Korea could hack Sony

If you think North Korea pulled off that massive cyber attack against Sony alone, raise your hand. If you swear they had nothing to do with it, raise your hand.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, December 21, 2014, 12:59 AM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052409.1419142703%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/article-kim-jong-illustration-1220.jpg New York Daily News photo illustration Kim Jong Un has as much chance of launching this cyberhack as Kim Kardashian has of fitting into a coach airline seat.


The movie’s un-release is such a big deal that on Friday even President Obama condemned Sony for bagging the movie, and suggested that Sony should have spoken to him first.

And who exactly at Sony would have made that call — Amy Pascal?

“Hi, President Django? Amy Pascal here.”
“Who?”
“‘12 Years a Slave,’Amy?”
“Oh you. No! I won’t park your car.”
“Legitimate mistake. Black guy. Parking lot. Bow tie?”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2052367



(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-no-north-korea-hack-sony-article-1.2052367)

[JK/SEA]

i guess we better send in clowns.

[Zippyjuan]

It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.

Sony says it was the movie theater chains which are refusing to show the film. They are concerned about potential liability should they actually show it and have a real attack for running it. Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.

[brushfire]

Phew.... Good thing they stopped that. Now we need the government to protect the internet from those evil North Korean hackers. Please please please, take our rights, make us safe.

[euphemia]

This is just rich. Hollywood has no courage at all. They take pot shots at anyone they want. They mock Christians and conservatives, and will do just about anything for a dollar. Now they put out something that offends the last nation on earth whose opinion should matter, and Hollywood just scurries back in its hole.

[KingNothing]

So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.

All of the above. Sony only decided to pull the movie after the largest theater chains in the nation said they would not show it.

And, given the culture we live in, who could blame these corporations for acting in such a manner? If ANYONE was hurt for ANY reason at ANY theater, you know that law suits would be flying and that companies would be on the hook in civil court. It would have been a mess. I'm not saying I agree that our never ending desire to litigate is a good thing, I'm just saying that it exists and probably motivated the theater chains and therefore Sony to pull the movie.

[acptulsa]

Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.

If we ever see it on Netflix, this. It's a dog, not worth the premiere costs, and this is the only way to get anyone interested.

If we don't, then we know Hollywood dreamed up something stupid and utterly ridiculous and depicted the CIA as doing it, and the CIA really is doing it.

And if you flip a quarter and it lands on the table balanced on its edge... Well, there's a greater chance of that than of North Korea hacking Sony.

[KingNothing]

Sony says it was the movie theater chains which are refusing to show the film. They are concerned about potential liability should they actually show it and have a real attack for running it. Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.

There's no way the movie sucks, or that it would have been a box office failure. Rogen and Franco films rake in cash, and they do it on a relatively small budget -- this opus only cost $40M. Given all the hype, I'm sure the movie would have tripled that, at least, with no problem.

As an aside, the brilliance that was This Is the End will forever justify any movie those two guys wish to make in the future.

[brushfire]

Someone got cranky when the Red Dawn remake changed the antagonist from China to North Korea...

[dannno]

If we ever see it on Netflix, this. It's a dog, not worth the premiere costs, and this is the only way to get anyone interested.



So Hollywood runs our country and its foreign policy?

[devil21]

Satanic Verses 2.0 (ironically, a h/t to Maddow for the comparison)

Mostly manufactured hype for a movie that otherwise wouldn't do very well. Now, the 'controversy' will make the sheeple want to go see it when it does get released.

[acptulsa]

So Hollywood runs our country and its foreign policy?

I don't know what makes you think what you quoted has anything to do with this, because it doesn't. Sony could have pretended to hack itself, for its own reasons.

That said, G.E. owns or owned NBC, Westinghouse owns or owned CBS, and you just generally couldn't separate the mass entertainment complex from the military industrial complex if I gave you a crowbar.

Why, who did you think runs our foreign policy?

[kcchiefs6465]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLQa6m6HGS0

This is just too damn silly.

[heavenlyboy34]

I don't know what makes you think what you quoted has anything to do with this, because it doesn't. Sony could have pretended to hack itself, for its own reasons.

That said, G.E. owns or owned NBC, Westinghouse owns or owned CBS, and you just generally couldn't separate the mass entertainment complex from the military industrial complex if I gave you a crowbar.

Why, who did you think runs our foreign policy?
If I may butt in-the bankers. Hollywood and corporate media have just about always been propaganda organs for the banksters, thte MIC, and the other nogoodniki.

[anaconda]

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/12/fbi-north-korea-to-blame-for-sony-hack/

vs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqBBp07YVIk

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLQa6m6HGS0

This is just too damn silly.

The movie’s un-release is such a big deal that on Friday even President Obama condemned Sony for bagging the movie, and suggested that Sony should have spoken to him first.

And who exactly at Sony would have made that call — Amy Pascal?

“Hi, President Django? Amy Pascal here.”
“Who?”
“‘12 Years a Slave,’Amy?”
“Oh you. No! I won’t park your car.”
“Legitimate mistake. Black guy. Parking lot. Bow tie?”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2052367 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-no-north-korea-hack-sony-article-1.2052367)

[PRB]

1. It was a crappy movie
2. Hackers found a hole, which they'd exploit every chance they get, for any company
3. They found a nice scapegoat, so made it look like NK government was behind it
4. No dice, no evidence, nobody but internet idiots are buying it, hackers are just trolling for lolz

[Suzanimal]

Sony Hack Suspects Send FBI a Video: 'You Are an Idiot'


(NEWSER) – The hackers allegedly behind the hack of Sony Pictures are congratulating the FBI on its work and offering the bureau a "Christmas gift." "The result of investigation by FBI is so excellent that you might have seen what we were doing with your own eyes," a broken-English message attributed to the "Guardians of Peace" hackers says at pastebin.com. "We congratulate you success. FBI is the BEST in the world." The message links to a YouTube video titled "you are an idiot," CNN reports; the clip features upbeat electronic music and smiley faces.

North Korea earlier demanded a joint investigation with the US into the hack. "If the North Korean government wants to help, they can admit their culpability and compensate Sony for the damages this attack caused," a US national security rep says, as the BBC reports. But the US does appear to be seeking a partner against hacking: Officials have been communicating with China about barring North Korean cyberattacks, the New York Times reports. "What we are looking for is a blocking action, something that would cripple their efforts to carry out attacks," an insider says. Meanwhile, Sony says it hasn't entirely given up on The Interview, the Independent reports. The studio is "surveying alternatives to enable us to release the movie on a different platform," it says in a statement.

http://www.newser.com/story/200268/sony-hack-suspects-send-fbi-a-video-you-are-an-idiot.html

[DevilsAdvocate]

Umm you guys are aware that the hackers threatened to launch terrorist attacks against any movie theater chain that decided to show the film??? This isn't just about hacking.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony-hackers-threaten-911-attack-on-movie-theaters-that-screen-the-interview-1201380712/

Whether or not these threats are legitimate, no one can tell. If they have the backing of a superstate like China or Russia, which is what is suspected, then yeah, it's a big deal. Even a small state like North Korea wouldn't have that much trouble pulling it off, as long as they had a few agents on our soil.

The larger picture is that they figured out that terrorist threats work, so they started using terrorist threats to get their way. You will see a general trend over the next decade or so of more and more organizations bullying us by threatening terrorism. Because it works.

[kcchiefs6465]

Umm you guys are aware that the hackers threatened to launch terrorist attacks against any movie theater chain that decided to show the film??? This isn't just about hacking.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony-hackers-threaten-911-attack-on-movie-theaters-that-screen-the-interview-1201380712/

Whether or not these threats are legitimate, no one can tell. If they have the backing of a superstate like China or Russia, which is what is suspected, then yeah, it's a big deal. Even a small state like North Korea wouldn't have that much trouble pulling it off, as long as they had a few agents on our soil.

The larger picture is that they figured out that terrorist threats work, so they started using terrorist threats to get their way. You will see a general trend over the next decade or so of more and more organizations bullying us by threatening terrorism. Because it works.
Scary stuff.

Thanks for the clarification.

They have 'super-EMPs,' you know?

[DevilsAdvocate]

Scary stuff.

Thanks for the clarification.

They have 'super-EMPs,' you know?

Sorry to sound snotty, but it was just really weird to have over 30 posts and no one brought this up.

For the record, I don't think they have any capablilty of a terrorist attack, they are just mouthing off to frighten people. But if you were one of the theaters would you take that risk?

Also it was pretty ingenious to threaten the theaters directly, rather than the studio. The studio is a centralized place, consisting of a few people. But there are thousands of theaters spread across the land, you can't protect them all. And the theater has the least to lose from not showing the movie, they have other movies after all. And when you threaten every single theater, you are also directly threatening the millions of people who attend those theaters. Fear spreads, and it becomes good business for every theater not to make itself a target.

This was a threat with the highest possibility of success. Which leads me to believe it wasn't a bunch of crazy people, it was a calculated psychological attack done by professionals in order to coerce behavior. And since it worked, we will see more and more of this.

As far as EMP's go, I heard there's a project in the works to upgrade our critical infrastructure to shield it from a potential EMP. From what I hear it's going slowly because, you know, government. But technically if you were the survivalist sort, you could probably do it yourself. Not sure how, but my good friend Google knows. You should ask him.

[Root]

Seems like a whole bunch to do about nothing. What are they trying to distract us from?

[acptulsa]

Seems like a whole bunch to do about nothing. What are they trying to distract us from?

From what I saw on the Sunday morning blather shows, they want us to forget that Sony is a Japanese, not an American, company, and they want us to forget that no sane citizenry goes to war over a third-rate Hollywood movie.

I don't know what it means.

[DevilsAdvocate]

From what I saw on the Sunday morning blather shows, they want us to forget that Sony is a Japanese, not an American, company, and they want us to forget that no sane citizenry goes to war over a third-rate Hollywood movie.

I don't know what it means.

Hmmm yes, but if their threats work here, they will open the door for more and more threats from other groups who want to get their way. I say find these people and spank them

[PRB]

Ok, the distraction is over, back to real life : 2 NYPD shot by citizens.

[acptulsa]

Ok, the distraction is over, back to real life : 2 NYPD shot by citizens.

Citizens plural?

Does Ismaaiyl Brinsley have multiple personality disorder or just a mouse in his pocket?

[otherone]

Whether or not these threats are legitimate, no one can tell. If they have the backing of a superstate like China or Russia, which is what is suspected, then yeah, it's a big deal. Even a small state like North Korea wouldn't have that much trouble pulling it off, as long as they had a few agents on our soil.

The larger picture is that they figured out that terrorist threats work, so they started using terrorist threats to get their way. You will see a general trend over the next decade or so of more and more organizations bullying us by threatening terrorism. Because it works.

It's a legitimate threat if you feel threatened. Not sure what you mean by "us" and "them", though.

[devil21]

Umm you guys are aware that the hackers threatened to launch terrorist attacks against any movie theater chain that decided to show the film??? This isn't just about hacking.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony-hackers-threaten-911-attack-on-movie-theaters-that-screen-the-interview-1201380712/

Whether or not these threats are legitimate, no one can tell. If they have the backing of a superstate like China or Russia, which is what is suspected, then yeah, it's a big deal. Even a small state like North Korea wouldn't have that much trouble pulling it off, as long as they had a few agents on our soil.

North Koreans barely have enough food to live on yet they're going to travel out of their locked down isolationist county to the US to suicide bomb movie theaters over a Seth Rogen movie? mmmk. I don't buy it, sorry.



The larger picture is that they figured out that terrorist threats work, so they started using terrorist threats to get their way. You will see a general trend over the next decade or so of more and more organizations bullying us by threatening terrorism. Because it works.

This describes our govt a lot more than NK's.

[Suzanimal]

North Korea threatens to 'blow up' the White House after claiming to find 'clear evidence' that the GOVERNMENT was behind controversial Sony film The Interview


North Korea has threatened more attacks against the U.S. government and other American institutions in the wake of the hack on Sony which cancelled the release of The Interview.
The government - which was outraged by the film showing the assassination of leader Kim Jong Un - also claimed to have 'clear evidence' that the U.S. government engineered the project as a 'propaganda' attack against North Korea.
In a ranting post published by the state news agency KCNA, Korean authorities hit back in an escalating war of words in which they say they will 'blow up' the White House - while bizarrely continuing to deny they have anything to do with the cyber attacks on Sony.

Referring to the United States as a 'cesspool of terrorism', the communist dictatorship said that it has already lashed out at the 'citadels of the U.S. imperialists', naming the White House and Pentagon in particular.
A release, translated from Korean, said: 'The DPRK [North Korea] has already launched the toughest counteraction.

'Nothing is a more serious miscalculation than guessing that just a single movie production company is the target of this counteraction.'
'Our target is all the citadels of the U.S. imperialists who earned the bitterest grudge of all Koreans.
'The army and people of the DPRK are fully ready to stand in confrontation with the U.S. in all war spaces including cyber warfare space to blow up those citadels.'
But despite its bellicose language, the state continued to deny it had anything to do with the original hack, for which a group calling themselves the Guardians of Peace has claimed credit.

...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882696/North-Korea-threatens-blow-White-House-claiming-clear-evidence-GOVERNMENT-controversial-Sony-film-Interview.html#ixzz3MbKjILms
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[green73]

I think it's US fascism. Fuck you, Japan.

It's hilarious that they're using NK as a scapegoat. I'm surprised it wasn't Russia. But they'd probably get their asses handed to them if they tried that.

Bottom line: more restrictions on internet "freedom" for us mundanes.

Oh and, Hollywood has a severely damaged foreign competitor. Ain't that cute?

[alucard13mm]

Who cares about Sony Pictures... now if they hacked Porn Hub and brought it down, now that would cause an uproar. lololol

[PRB]

Citizens plural?

Does Ismaaiyl Brinsley have multiple personality disorder or just a mouse in his pocket?

Can you prove he acted alone? What do you have? Video evidence like we do for James Holmes?

[devil21]

Can you prove he acted alone? What do you have? Video evidence like we do for James Holmes?

Can you prove he acted at all?

[Suzanimal]

North Korea's internet appears to be under mass cyber attack


Internet connectivity between North Korea and the outside world, though never robust to begin with, is currently suffering one of its worst outages in recent memory, suggesting that the country may be enduring a mass cyber attack a few days after President Obama warned the US would launch a "proportional response" to North Korea's hack against Sony.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at the cybsecurity firm Dyn Research, according to Martyn Williams of the excellent blog North Korea Tech. Madory explained, "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

While it's entirely possible that this is due to run-of-the-mill maintenance or technical issues, it's hard to miss that the outage comes just days after President Obama condemned North Korea as responsible for the massive cyberattack against Sony and pledged a "proportional" US response.

The outage also comes as China is investigating the accusations against North Korea over the Sony hack. North Korea's internet access is wired through China, which gives China more or less direct control over North Korea's access to the outside world.

Yes, North Korea does have the Internet. Very few citizens have access to it, it's slow, and the connection is shaky. But it allows North Korea's state media, its propagandists, and its vaunted cyberwarfare divisions a way to access the outside world, as well as ways for sympathetic Koreans in South Korea and Japan to link up with the Hermit Kingdom. The country is wired through China, North Korea's northern neighbor and sole ally.

Why could this be happening? Did the US launch a cyber attack against North Korea in retaliation for the Sony hack? On the one hand, the White House has reportedly ruled out any sort of "demonstration strike" cyber reprisal against North Korean internet targets. On the other, that does not necessarily rule out a possible American effort to simply disrupt or sever North Korea's connection to the outside internet, if only to block future attacks.

It's also possible that China is attempting to shut down North Korea's internet connections with the outside world, perhaps so as to avoid future North Korean attacks that would embarrass China. While China is North Korea's patron, it also typically seeks to tamp down the Hermit Kingdom's provocations, which Beijing rightly sees as bad for Chinese interests.

Vigilante hackers could also theoretically be responsible, perhaps in an attempt to punish North Korea for the Sony attack, although past efforts by groups such as Anonymous have been spectacular failures.

While it's possible that North Korea is preemptively closing off its own internet access, hoping to prevent or preempt any US reprisal attacks, that would not explain why connectivity occasionally pops back up, suggesting that either an outage or a deliberate attack is the cause.

http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7433873/north-korea-internet-down

[Occam's Banana]

North Korea threatens to 'blow up' the White House after claiming to find 'clear evidence' that the GOVERNMENT was behind controversial Sony film The Interview

*yawn* Been there, seen that ...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Olympus_Has_Fallen_poster.jpg

Could the folks behind this crap - whoever they may be - please come up with some new scripts?

[enhanced_deficit]

North Korea's internet appears to be under mass cyber attack

These guys (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?465316-Gaza-Anonymous-Hacking-Attack-Shut-Down-Hundreds-Of-Israeli-Government-Websites&p=5736421#post5736421) are probably ROFLing over this news.



Chronology of events:

U.S. Condemns Gaza School Attack as Israel Says ‘Battle Is Ongoing’ (http://time.com/3076108/gaza-israel-un-ban-ki-moon-hamas/)
Aug. 3, 2014

Anonymous Hacking Attack Shut Down 'Hundreds' Of Israeli Government Websites (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?465316-Gaza-Anonymous-Hacking-Attack-Shut-Down-Hundreds-Of-Israeli-Government-Websites&)
Aug. 5, 2014

http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/anonymous-hackers-israel-e1353123128679.jpg
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/anonymousantiisrael.jpg


Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement
August 23, 2014
Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support

'Guardians of Peace' hacks Hollywood movies (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463969-Guardians-of-Peace-hacks-Hollywood-movies&)
November 28, 2014

[mosquitobite]

Sony says it was the movie theater chains which are refusing to show the film. They are concerned about potential liability should they actually show it and have a real attack for running it. Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/north-korea-hacked-sony-don-173312483.html

[Suzanimal]

I don't think they did it and I'm not even smart.:D


A Lot of Smart People Think North Korea Didn't Hack Sony

The evidence linking agents of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea to the recent digital implosion of Sony remains vague. And even though the feds are squarely blaming North Korea, many security experts aren't buying it.

Long before the FBI made it official, North Korean blame for the attack against Sony was taken as a given. Even if the best reason to credit Kim Jong-Un's goons was because it just sort of feels right and Hey, that movie is about North Korea, most people following the story—both in and out of the media—ran with the story. It happens to be a very politically convenient story, featuring the world's favorite cartoon henchman at the lead.

But independent, skeptical security experts have been poking holes in this theory for days now. Evidence provided by the FBI last week in an official accusation against the North Korean government was really more of a reference to evidence—all we got were bullet points, most of them rehashing earlier clues. It still doesn't seem like enough to definitively pin the attacks to North Korea.

But the weightiest rebuttal of the case against North Korea has come from renowned hacker, DEFCON organizer, and CloudFlare researcher Marc Rogers, who makes a compelling case of his own. Highlights below:


The broken English looks deliberately bad and doesn't exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in "Konglish". i.e it reads to me like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English.

[...]

It's clear from the hard-coded paths and passwords in the malware that whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sony's internal architecture and access to key passwords. While it's plausible that an attacker could have built up this knowledge over time and then used it to make the malware, Occam's (Banana gone bad?!?!?!:p) razor suggests the simpler explanation of an insider. It also fits with the pure revenge tact that this started out as.
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http://gawker.com/a-lot-of-smart-people-think-north-korea-didnt-hack-sony-1672899940?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[devil21]

Oh look, Sony is releasing it on Christmas day after all. Big marketing scam.

[green73]

Oh look, Sony is releasing it on Christmas day after all. Big marketing scam.

Yeah, I'm sure that's all it was. :rolleyes:

[idiom]

If I was Sony I would be out there saying North Korea hack them through back doors installed by the NSA.

[devil21]

Yeah, I'm sure that's all it was. :rolleyes:

Some people never learn....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-the-fbi-get-it-wrong-on-north-korea/


"We are very confident that this was not an attack master-minded by North Korea and that insiders were key to the implementation of one of the most devastating attacks in history," said Stammberger.

He says Norse data is pointing towards a woman who calls herself "Lena" and claims to be connected with the so-called "Guardians of Peace" hacking group. Norse believes it's identified this woman as someone who worked at Sony in Los Angeles for ten years until leaving the company this past May.

Ex-Sony employee responsible for a "hack" that will only make money for Sony? Yep, marketing scam just like the Satanic Verses were. All controlled assets playing their parts. You do realize DC and Hollywood are thicker than thieves, right? They work together.

[green73]

Some people never learn....

Yeah, with all the embarrassing internal leaks, it was just a marketing gimmick.

More likely, it was the spooks of the US gov't working on behalf of the fascists in Hollywood to cripple this foreign company, whist using the old stupid ragdoll of NK to eventually take more of our freedoms.

[devil21]

Yeah, with all the embarrassing internal leaks, it was just a marketing gimmick.

What's the motto in Hollywood? "There's no such thing as bad publicity." I assume you think it was coincidence that Jennifer Lawrence's nudie pics were "hacked" right before her Hunger Games movie was released, too.



More likely, it was the spooks of the US gov't working on behalf of the fascists in Hollywood to cripple this foreign company, whist using the old stupid ragdoll of NK to eventually take more of our freedoms.

We are fairly close in opinion here but I don't think for a moment that Sony was some innocent victim. They stand to PROFIT from this. The CIA is deeply tied into all of it. Sony makes money, CIA gets to ding another boogeyman falsely. Again, they work together. Btw, go see who is CEO of Sony Pictures, then tell me about the "foreign company". Then finally reread the thread title and OP to refresh your memory what the thread is about. NK did not hack Sony so what's the flap over the movie? MARKETING SCAM

[green73]

What's the motto in Hollywood? "There's no such thing as bad publicity." I assume you think it was coincidence that Jennifer Lawrence's nudie pics were "hacked" right before her Hunger Games movie was released, too.

Jennifer Lawrence was just one of many actresses in that leak. Surely they all had movies coming out, right?


We are fairly close in opinion here but I don't think for a moment that Sony was some innocent victim. They stand to PROFIT from this. The CIA is deeply tied into all of it. Sony makes money, CIA gets to ding another boogeyman falsely. Again, they work together. Btw, go see who is CEO of Sony Pictures, then tell me about the "foreign company". Then finally reread the thread title and OP to refresh your memory what the thread is about. NK did not hack Sony so what's the flap over the movie? MARKETING SCAM

Yeah, they're hoping to make some lemonade out of this lemon. I don't blame them. But they had many of their movies leaked online in this episode; not to mention all the leaked internal information. By all accounts it's been a disaster for them. But you are telling us it's all to help promote this one shit movie.

[devil21]

Jennifer Lawrence was just one of many actresses in that leak. Surely they all had movies coming out, right?

She was by far the number one topic. The second headliner, Upton, is now pushing a video game all over the tv and net. Most of the rest of the pics of celebs didn't even contain nudity. Point is, Hollywood coordinates this crap all the time for publicity. You don't have to believe me, I don't care.



Yeah, they're hoping to make some lemonade out of this lemon. I don't blame them. But they had many of their movies leaked online in this episode; not to mention all the leaked internal information. By all accounts it's been a disaster for them. But you are telling us it's all to help promote this one shit movie.

The "flap" over the movie is to promote a shitty propaganda movie, yes. We agree that NK did not hack Sony, yes? So who did and why was NK blamed? Or better question, was Sony really "hacked" at all? Says who? Sony? The oh-so-trustworthy-FBI? Is it possible they're making lemonade out of what they told you is a lemon, but they had the lemonade the whole time?

DC and Hollywood are joined at the hip and systematically coordinate their projects to benefit each other. Why? Because they are run by the same small group of people with the same agenda (Carlin's "big club", aka Jesuits). This same scam was run over the Satanic Verses book in the 80's, written by one of that group and used to demonize an opposing group, while profiting from the controversy the publisher manufactured by creating a false scarcity scenario. Profit and propaganda all tied into a neat little bow for the holidays.

Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it.

[devil21]

Last post. Sooner or later people will learn that those who control what the people "know", actually control the people's entire perception of what is "reality". The key to deprogramming out of this control is to learn the system they use to accomplish the control. This system is deployed over and over in many forms (wars, entertainment, finance, etc) but the principles are always the same. Learn the system and then you can start to see through the bs that surrounds us constantly. And make no mistake, it is almost all bs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkVe7arGLW0

I don't hate Hollywood. I enjoy it for what it is. Anything related to it is fiction. It is entertainment and is the business of being fake.

[James Madison]

Let's focus on the real tragedy here:

James Franco and Seth Rogen get to keep making movies.

[James Madison]

She was by far the number one topic. The second headliner, Upton, is now pushing a video game all over the tv and net. Most of the rest of the pics of celebs didn't even contain nudity. Point is, Hollywood coordinates this crap all the time for publicity. You don't have to believe me, I don't care.

Wait, wait wait...

That chick, who can't act, with the massive jugs is Kate Upton?!

[CaseyJones]

http://www.primewire.ag/watch-2755784-The-Interview

[kcchiefs6465]

Worth the watch?

[RonPaulMall]

What's the motto in Hollywood? "There's no such thing as bad publicity." I assume you think it was coincidence that Jennifer Lawrence's nudie pics were "hacked" right before her Hunger Games movie was released, too.



We are fairly close in opinion here but I don't think for a moment that Sony was some innocent victim. They stand to PROFIT from this. The CIA is deeply tied into all of it. Sony makes money, CIA gets to ding another boogeyman falsely. Again, they work together. Btw, go see who is CEO of Sony Pictures, then tell me about the "foreign company". Then finally reread the thread title and OP to refresh your memory what the thread is about. NK did not hack Sony so what's the flap over the movie? MARKETING SCAM

The hack itself cost Sony a tremendous amount of money. And the idea that The Fappening was orchestrated by Hollywood is just absurd. Those pictures were collected by hackers over a period of years. They all came out when they did because one person in the ever expanding group of traders finally broke the compact and started dumping pics, and at that point it became a free for all as collectors had to use their pics before they lost all value.

There is one and only one way in which a conspiracy theory works, and that is this:

Sony was hacked by a group of hackers either composed of or with the help of disgruntled ex-Sony employees. Sony was badly damaged by this. At this point, some clever suit at Sony Entertainment gets the clever idea to turn at least part of these lemons in to lemonade and floats the whole "The Interview" as motive and NK as culprit angle to promote to generate buzz for this atrocious (and yes, I've seen it and it is atrocious) film. The compliant neocon media runs with it, and Sony at least salvages something out of the leak.

[enhanced_deficit]

Stasi: No way North Korea could hack Sony

If you think North Korea pulled off that massive cyber attack against Sony alone, raise your hand. If you swear they had nothing to do with it, raise your hand.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, December 21, 2014, 12:59 AM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052409.1419142703%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/article-kim-jong-illustration-1220.jpg New York Daily News photo illustration Kim Jong Un has as much chance of launching this cyberhack as Kim Kardashian has of fitting into a coach airline seat.


The movie’s un-release is such a big deal that on Friday even President Obama condemned Sony for bagging the movie, and suggested that Sony should have spoken to him first.

And who exactly at Sony would have made that call — Amy Pascal?

“Hi, President Django? Amy Pascal here.”
“Who?”
“‘12 Years a Slave,’Amy?”
“Oh you. No! I won’t park your car.”
“Legitimate mistake. Black guy. Parking lot. Bow tie?”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2052367

(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-no-north-korea-hack-sony-article-1.2052367)

NYD should not have depicted NK's Supereme Leader in this way.

https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/5921526932661/2018/1/da8557996c9c6d6008e1ba89242c20bb/Trump-administration-releases-North-Korea-summit-coin.jpg