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12-03-2007, 02:27 PM

Ron Paul Roundup (12-03-07)
by RS Davis (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=194780914&blogID=334481929&Mytoken=4BE08F53-BBDA-4CCC-9EF861DD952B4AAE2698641)

Hello Freedomphiles! Man, Trevor Lyman, the cat behind the money-bombs and the Paul blimp, is getting almost as much coverage as Paul himself. Let's start off today's Roundup by talking about him, Paul, and money.

Donkelephant reports (http://donklephant.com/2007/12/01/will-ron-paul-raise-most-money-in-q4/)that the blimp is about to hit the skies, and the Paul campaign should hit over $12 million for the fourth quarter:

He's on track to vault over his $12 million goal, and that could seriously outpace all of his GOP rivals, including the deep-pocketed Romney.

Add to this the fact that the Ron Paul Blimp idea apparently reached its $350K goal and the craft is set to launch on Dec. 10th for a month long tour of the nation. That website is now even raising money for advertising time on the blimp.

And the UK's Guardian Unlimited is reporting (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7121198,00.html)that not only may he hit the $12 million mark, he thinks he may blow it away:

Republican Ron Paul said Sunday his upstart presidential campaign is on track to raise more than $12 million this quarter, boldly predicting the Iowa polls ``are going to continue to shift'' once he's finished spending it all.

Speaking on CNN's ``Late Edition,'' Paul said he had raised roughly $10.4 million so far in the quarter beginning Oct. 1, an amount that is already double the $5.2 million he pulled in during the third quarter. A big online fundraising effort planned for Dec. 16 could push the fourth quarter's total higher by several million, he said.

``We are going to be way over our goal of $12 million,'' said the 10-term Texas congressman. ``And, I mean, at this rate, it could be, you know, maybe $14 million or $15 million. It just is astounding.''

Will he make it? OG Paper thinks (http://www.ogpaper.com/news/news-01388.html)the odds are pretty good:

Could it happen? Well, the online odds maker Bodog Sports say yes, and it backs it up with odds of -900. If the Ron Paul supporters fail to match the previous $4.3 million record, the bookie will payout on odds of +500 (i.e. 500 for every 100 bet). But the odds makers don't feel confident that Ron Paul will hit the $10 million mark at the 2007 Ron Paul Tea Party, on the betting prop will the Ron Paul Tea Party 2007 meet its goal of raising $10 million or more in donations, failure to do so is currently favored with odds -400 and "yes" pays underdog odds of +250. The bookie is even more skeptical of the Ron Paul Tea Party 2007 receiving more than 100,000 pledges by the end of December 16th - odds on getting the 100K pledges are sitting at +500 and the odds on not getting them at -900. At press time the total number of Ron Paul Tea Party 2007 pledges were 22,855. At least the Ron Paul supporters are getting a little break - Bodog is confident that Ron Paul will be able to reach his goal of $12 million in contributions by the end of the year with the whopping odds of -1750, otherwise the odds are +650. At press time the total Ron Paul contributions were posted at $10,409,799.98 at his official website.

And the Trevor Lyman stuff I was talking about? As well as the essays on him over the last few days, USA Daily has a profile (http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=183100)of him out:

Ron Paul supporter and grassroots fund raising volunteer Trevor Lyman helped make history last month when he promoted a website that helped Paul break records with a 4.2 million dollar 'money bomb' on November 5th.

The 37 year old music promoter never voted before but says he was a 'history buff' and studied historic figures like Gandhi and paid attention to world affairs.

Lyman says that some of the main reasons he was attracted to Paul was because of his "consistency and foresight to vote against the Iraq war." Lyman said he'd become disgusted when "Democrats lied about the war" and did nothing to change the foreign policy.

And Free Market News Network is reporting (http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=52058&fb=1)about Trevor's get-out-the-vote efforts in New Hampshire:

With the help of Trevor Lyman, a leading figure in the Ron Paul Nov. 5th "Money Bomb" mass donation day, "Operation Live Free" is now ready to kick off "Five for Freedom." This is a NH canvassing drive that will enable supporters of GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-Tex) to house as many as 1,000 out-of-state Ron Paul campaign volunteers in New Hampshire in December. The volunteers will be involved in "canvassing" throughout New Hampshire for Ron Paul. The goal: 20,000 pledges of $5 by December 5th.

The Houston Chronicle is reporting (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5343489.html)about two Texas foes of Ron Paul:

But at a gathering of Chambers County Republicans here last week, Stroud said Paul will get no more of her votes. When she saw him on national TV slamming America's involvement in the Iraq war, that was enough. Paul, with his passionate critiques of the Bush administration, is undercutting U.S. soldiers before they even get home, she said.

Such a remark from a core Republican voter is a lullaby to two men mounting uphill, thinly financed campaigns against Paul in the GOP primary. They clash with Paul on several issues. But Chris Peden, a Friendswood councilman and accountant, and Andy Mann, a League City computer technologist for a space exploration company that does work for NASA, count on the idea that Paul's anti-war message in New Hampshire and Iowa flops in President Bush's home state communities of Katy, Victoria, Lake Jackson, Galveston and Baytown.

Good luck, guys. Ron Paul's trail is littered with members of his own party that thought they could beat him in his own district.

LewRockwell.com member Anthony Gregory reports (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/017372.html)about his talk with Ron Paul:

As Lew mentioned, I had the pleasure of speaking at the Ron Paul rally on the famous Sproul steps at UC Berkeley's campus. The Berkeley Students for Paul and the other students on campus showing their support were a diverse group, indeed. Many were Asian-Americans, as Justin Raimondo notes; some were disaffected Republicans (even the Berkeley College Republicans president was a Paul supporter! ó this is amazing, seeing as how I have noted that a few years back, the club was entirely neocon fascists). There were also many leftists and progressives who supported Ron Paul, including some who liked Gravel and Kucinich but saw in Paul the most promising, most principled and fastest growing antiwar, pro-civil liberties, anti-corporate welfare campaign in America. This included some left-liberals so disgusted with the central state that they were quite fine with seeing issues like abortion handed back to the states, if it meant the end of empire. Many supporters were just normal students who had no interest in politics and no conscious grasp of libertarianism, but had a distinct libertarian instinct nevertheless. Indeed, for many in the crowd, including people new to politics, Ron Paul's free-market economics was almost as much a focus as the war.

The Baltimore Sun is talking (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/ron_paul_isolationism_isnt_wha.html)about Ron Paul and isolationism:

"Isolationism isn't what I advocate,'' Paul told Blitzer. "I advocate non-intervention, not getting involved in the internal affairs of other nations, and not pretending a country like Iraq is equivalent to Nazi Germany. Iraq had no army, no navy, had no weapons of mass destruction, had nothing to do with 9/11, so the comparison makes no sense.

Under what circumstances, if he were president, would Paul intervene outside the borders of the United States in some sort of crisis around the world, Blitzer asked the candidate.

"When Congress directed me to in the act of war,'' Paul replied. "If our national security was threatened and we went through the proper procedures, Congress would say, our national security is involved, it is threatened and we have to act. And Congress has that responsibility. The president is the command-in- chief, and then he acts.''

SanLuisObispo.com columnist Bob Cubby thinks (http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/story/208656.html)Paul is being marginalized by the MSM:

The funny thing about Paul is that post-debate polls show him with strong support. He also is raising lots of money through the Internet. Yet the comatose Fred Thompson and the Rocky Mountain xenophobe Tom Tan-credo get more ink.

"They totally ignore him," Lightfoot says.

Lightfoot believes the media are locked into a "duopoly," pushing the notion that the two-party system has helped keep the United States stable.

"The myth is that two parties are enough," she says. Third and fourth parties "bring up issues that the others won't address. It expands the debate."

Gambling911.com examines (http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-120207.html) this further:

The important lesson, though, is that the MSM syndicates want to make money, and will not present anything which they feel will not appeal to their customers. The reason why many of the MSM stations seem to have chosen favorite candidates is because their target audience already has. The stations aren't dumb. Most of them compete for overlapping audiences, and they have all done comprehensive research and studies into exactly what those audiences want to hear.

It could be argued that were this profit motive truly guiding the MSM, they would simply provide their audiences with whatever distorted analyses they desired, disconnected from any facts which might not fit into it. Again, this is countered by competition. Due to the interactive environment of the news media, with each provider vying for similar viewers, each must strive to be seen as the "best" source. Were any of the MSM outlets to ignore reality entirely, it would give ammunition to their competitors to attack them, lessening their prestige, and thus, viewer base.

Of course, given Dr. Paul's popularity in the only de-centrally controlled media venue, the internet, some more questions must be raised. Namely, if the MSM is solely profit motivated, and they must compete over a limited amount of viewers, and thus advertisers attempting to reach them, wouldn't one of them "pick up" Ron Paul and his teeming masses? The question is extremely appropriate, and cannot be satisfactorily answered given the understanding of the MSM as it stands thus far in this piece. The reason for this is that there is another aspect to the companies which give us our news. They are also the singularly most powerful special interest group in existence. They have access to the political world of the United States through two means. First is the traditional method of simply throwing money at politicians in Washington, and secondly, and uniquely to them, the MSM has direct access the voting public, and extensive control over how that public perceives the political world. Because of this access to the public, they also enjoy the attentions of every other special interest group in existence. This is their power, and they use it.

Bill Hayman over at American Chronicle is wondering (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=44325) exactly what Ron Paul's chances are:

Could Paul Win the GOP Nomination? - Yes, Ron Paul is an online favorite and he has at least achieved a noteworthy footnote status in American political history with the amazing internet fundraising success by his supporters working on their own outside his campaign or control. Still, his great momentum in the polls moving up from less than 1% to the high single digits realistically can not translate into victory in the front-loaded 2008 primary schedule. There simply is not enough time for the support from internet savvy Ron Paul advocates to broaden across the voting public and mature into enough primary victories for Paul to become the Republican nominee for President. Second, even if this was possible he would have another series of difficult obstacles to overcome in running against Hillary Clinton, the probable Democrat nominee.

Paradigm Shifts In the American Electorate "Almost' Never Happen Over Night! - There is little chance his campaign or supporters alone can convince a majority of the American electorate to vote for Ron Paul and his platform in the time available. The Ron Paul campaign is an educational effort that caught on with a sizable minority of young people and others who don't trust big government, the Neocon foreign policy, conventional politics or the direction our nation is heading. As an educational effort, it has already generated the largest groundswell of popular support since populist Ross Perot, anti-war Eugene McCarthy in 1968 and conservative Barry Goldwater in 1964. But history shows us that the majority of American voters never turn on a dime and it takes years for education and reality to dawn on the public. But all is not lost for the Ron Paul For President campaign and outside events could well propel him into the White House.

That's part one of two. The Los Angeles Times is reporting on the Foot Soldiers of the Ron Paul Revolution: (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-ronpaul1dec01,0,678486.story?coll=la-home-center)

These fervent supporters and their freewheeling tactics have helped turn Paul into, first, an Internet sensation and, now, this political season's most unlikely phenomenon.

A 45-year-old artist and adventurer is bicycling from Santa Monica to the Jefferson Memorial in Washington to raise awareness about Paul. A Nevada brothel owner recently promised to take up a collection from her customers. One Colorado backer quickly raised more than $350,000 online this week, with a plan to launch a Ron Paul blimp.

"It's bigger than one. It's bigger than a group," Juliet Annerino, a Silver Lake fitness trainer and singer, said at the recent gathering of the Pasadena group. "We are making history right now. Right here."

The Yakima Herald is also reporting (http://www.yakima-herald.com/page/dis/290427399754833)on Ron Paul's supporters:

Paul is a guy they'd never heard of a year ago, and who is given no chance of winning by any mainstream political commentators. He's an obstetrician-gynecologist who wants to get U.S. troops out of Iraq right away, abolish the Internal Revenue Service, eliminate the U.S. Department of Education and return to the long-gone gold standard.

His local supporters recognize and freely acknowledge that some of Paul's positions are far from the political center. They know that their man, who began his third and most-recent stint as a congressman in 1997, doesn't appeal to mainstream Republicans or Democrats.

"That is exactly what I like about him," said Lee, a 45-year-old refrigeration service worker from Selah. "I can honestly tell you that I love this guy."

United Press International is comparing (http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/12/01/paul_echoes_of_3rd-party_campaigns/2182/)the Paul campaign to other noteworthy buck-the-establishment bids throughout history:

Bruce Buchanan, a professor of government at the University of Texas, Austin, compared the Paul campaign to notable third-party campaigns in U.S. history.

"I think you could build a case that Ron Paul is part of a tradition of those unhappy with the iron grip of the status quo, from Ross Perot to Ralph Nader right back to Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party," Buchanan told the Times. "What they all have in common is a freedom from the normal tendencies toward caution and equivocation."

The Nolan Chart is reporting (http://www.nolanchart.com/article352.html)on Ron Paul's 25th Straw Poll Smackdown:

Ron Paul has just won his 25th straw poll. The Republican presidential candidate has taken the top honors in Virginia, followed by Fred Thompson in second place and Mike Huckabee in third. Paul got 182 of the 439 votes cast, or 38%.

The Richmond-Times Dispatch reported that there was a visibly discernable turnout for Ron Paul, and went on to say that his vocal supporters packed the place.

The Gazette has a nice piece (http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/NEWS/712010027/-1/iowacaucus), trying to glean the makeup of the Paul supporters:

In addition to opposing the Iraq war, Paul has attracted supporters of Second Amendment gun rights as well as opponents of abortion, income taxes and the North American Free Trade Agreement. He also wins the backing of those who want to return to the gold standard, decriminalize marijuana and pull out of the United Nations and NATO.

If there is a common thread that weaves through Paul's patchwork quilt of support, however, it is individual freedom.

"I find that tends to bring people together rather than divide us because it recognizes that people have different beliefs and different lifestyles, and we don't challenge each other," said Paul, a former obstetrician and Air Force flight surgeon.

"They want to be free," said his Linn County campaign chairman, Ed Dolan of Central City. "They're tired of government telling them what to do."


12-04-2007, 12:30 AM
Glad to make my first post today. First many thanks for all the time you put in to posting articles. I just wanted to add this great opinion article by Szandor Blestman over at the American Chronicle. It is pretty long but I think it sums up very well why he supports the message of Ron Paul. Give it a read I think you will agree with what he has to say.

Itís Not Ron Paul, Itís the Message

12-04-2007, 09:59 AM
Glad to make my first post today. First many thanks for all the time you put in to posting articles. I just wanted to add this great opinion article by Szandor Blestman over at the American Chronicle. It is pretty long but I think it sums up very well why he supports the message of Ron Paul. Give it a read I think you will agree with what he has to say.

Itís Not Ron Paul, Itís the Message

Thanks! Watch for your name in the next Roundup!

- R