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NACBA
12-16-2014, 07:39 AM
The Taliban has killed dozens of children at a Peshawar school in a revenge mission for Pakistani schoolgirl activist Malala Yousafzai being awarded the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize.

Ahmed Rashid, an expert on the Islamic militants, told the BBC the insurgents had various reasons to attack the school, one of which was to send a message to the supporters of Malala, who advocates education for women and children.

In response to the events at the school in Pakistan, education campaigner Malala has condemned the "atrocious and cowardly" attack.

As reported by the Guardian, she said: "I am heartbroken by this senseless and cold-blooded act of terror in Peshawar that is unfolding before us.

"Innocent children in their school have no place in horror such as this.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peshawar-school-attack-talibans-revenge-malala-yousafzais-nobel-peace-prize-1479754

tod evans
12-16-2014, 07:53 AM
Is this the US dollar funded Taliban?

Or is this the Taliban that the US funds through intermediaries?

It all gets so confusing........:o

Occam's Banana
12-16-2014, 09:44 AM
In response to the events at the school in Pakistan, education campaigner Malala has condemned the "atrocious and cowardly" attack.

As reported by the Guardian, she said: "I am heartbroken by this senseless and cold-blooded act of terror in Peshawar that is unfolding before us.

"Innocent children in their school have no place in horror such as this."

Maybe she should send a memo to her fellow Nobel Peace laureate in the White House while she's at it ...

enhanced_deficit
12-16-2014, 09:47 AM
Very tragic news of violence, just shows again that in rage humans can become animals.



In response to the events at the school in Pakistan, education campaigner Malala has condemned the "atrocious and cowardly" attack.



That poor girl has been used and paraded as propaganda tool by swc dronegangsta's puppet masters.


http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/drone-kids.jpg?w=468&h=468http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131011211015-obama-malala-meet-story-top.jpg


9 year old girl who survived Obama drone attack (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431958-Girl-who-survived-Obama-drone-attack-is-younger-than-his-daughter)

pcosmar
12-16-2014, 09:54 AM
Is this the US dollar funded Taliban?

Or is this the Taliban that the US funds through intermediaries?

It all gets so confusing........:o

I suspect there is more to it. (something beyond the sensationalist headlines)

Who was running this school? what exactly were they teaching these children in this Army school?

I followed a blog for a few years,, by a girl in Iraq. I have seen several intelligent and educated Muslim females.
Education is not widely opposed. (except for minority groups like the Yadzi)

I have my suspicions about who and why of this "school".

enhanced_deficit
12-16-2014, 10:04 AM
I followed a blog for a few years,, by a girl in Iraq. I have seen several intelligent and educated Muslim females.
Education is not widely opposed. (except for minority groups like the Yadzi)

I have my suspicions about who and why of this "school".

On a related note, maybe not by locals but US tax payers opposed liberal education of local women by financing jihadi actors, schools and literature courtesy of Univ of Nebraska.
Afghanistan women's education scene before US freedom intervention in late 1970s/1980s:

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http://thefollyofhumanconceits.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/pre-taliban-kabul-1970s.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=kabul%20science%20medical%2070s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=xlI16mI2fSHtrM&tbnid=AEDsXc3zn5a_eM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthefollyofhumanconceits.wordpress .com%2Fcategory%2Fhistory-2%2F&ei=eIP9UfLSMYTm8gSfqoH4Dw&bvm=bv.50165853,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNE3_gth3oPJB5Er5BknTvjhqekQVA&ust=1375655142325897)

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Photo Essay: Crash course on origins of modern Afghan Jihadis (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?423269-Photo-Essay-Crash-course-on-origins-of-Al-Qaeda&)

ravedown
12-16-2014, 10:28 AM
im still not certain what is to be gained for the taliban by such a horrific move. it seems this will put so much pressure on the Pakistani military to crack down as well as international condemnation and retribution. also, how can this be helpful for recruitment? seems like a very bad PR move that will hopefully turn the public en mass against the taliban once and for all.

pcosmar
12-16-2014, 11:17 AM
im still not certain what is to be gained for the taliban by such a horrific move. it seems this will put so much pressure on the Pakistani military to crack down as well as international condemnation and retribution. also, how can this be helpful for recruitment? seems like a very bad PR move that will hopefully turn the public en mass against the taliban once and for all.

It may deter parents from sending their children to CIA funded schools.

ExPatPaki
12-16-2014, 03:04 PM
im still not certain what is to be gained for the taliban by such a horrific move. it seems this will put so much pressure on the Pakistani military to crack down as well as international condemnation and retribution. also, how can this be helpful for recruitment? seems like a very bad PR move that will hopefully turn the public en mass against the taliban once and for all.

Here's Juan Cole on the matter:

Desperate Pakistani Taliban, on the ropes, attack Army School in Peshawar: Large scale Casualties (http://www.juancole.com/2014/12/desperate-pakistani-casualties.html)


On Tuesday, six members of the Movement of Pakistani Taliban (Tehrik-i Taliban Pakistan or TTP) invaded a school for children run by the Pakistani army in Peshawar
The Pakistani military counter-attacked, with early reports of dozens killed and wounded in the cross fire. Some of the Taliban were wearing suicide bomb vests, and a loud explosion was heard from one of the school buildings.
Unlike the hostage-taking in Australia, which was just a tragedy produced by a lone nut-job, the attack in Peshawar has geopolitical implications and really is the work of persons organized to pressure civilians on policy by routinely blowing them up–the very definition of terrorism.
The Pakistani “Taliban” are a little bit of a misnomer. The word means ‘seminary student,’ and many of those Afghans who flocked to Mulla Omar in the late 1990s actually studied Muslim law and other disciplines. But the so-called Pakistani Taliban are just uneducated men from the Mahsoud tribe in southern Waziristan, an agency of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas [FATA]. People in Waziristan are Pushtuns, an ethnic group with its own language. Most Taliban derive from that ethnicity. Pakistan’s dominant ethnic group is the Punjabis.
Some of the tribesmen of Mahsoud only declared themselves members of the “Pakistani Taliban” in the early zeroes, whereas the Afghan Taliban went back to the 1990s. Many observers believe that the TTP or Pakistani Taliban were behind the assassination on Dec. 27, 2007, of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto. Also in North Waziristan is the Haqqani group of terrorists, who had been with the US against the Soviet Union but in 2001 turned on the US as occupiers.
The ambiguities of FATA are enough for a hundred John LeCarre novels. The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence is accused of having used or wanted to use the militant Pakistani Taliban and Haqqani group for its own purposes, laying down a marker on the future of Afghanistan.
In 2009, soon after he came to office, President Barack Obama twisted the arm of then Pakistani president Asaf Ali Zardari (the widower of Benazir Bhutto). He succeeded in getting Zardari to launch a major operation against the Pakistani Taliban for the first time. The Pakistani military targeted many of the Mahsoud in South Waziristan, driving others to North Waziristan. The campaign secured some urban areas.
Since July of this year, the Pakistani air force has been bombing positions of the TTP or Pakistani Taliban in North Waziristan. The more aggressive policy was adopted by Prime Minsiter Nawaz Sharif of the Muslim League. He appears to be trying to build bridges to Afghanistan’s president Ashraf Ghani.
It is amazing that the US finally got what it wanted, a Pakistani government willing to send fighter jets to bomb the Pakistani Taliban. But that there has been almost no television coverage of this sea change.
*North* Waziristan had always been protected by military intelligence and so had become a haven for al-Qaeda offshoots. But in the past 6 months Pakistani army troops have killed nearly 2000 fighters and deeply disrupted what is left of the Pakistani Taliban. The group that took over the school complains of the perfidy of the government’s bombing.
So this school attack was the Pakistani Taliban taking revenge for the government’s disruption of their terrorist activities. This is not a sign of strength but of weakness, and they lashed out at a soft target. They are facing a major defeat. That is its significance.

puppetmaster
12-16-2014, 03:08 PM
Very tragic news of violence, just shows again that in rage humans can become animals.



That poor girl has been used and paraded as propaganda tool by swc dronegangsta's puppet masters.


http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/drone-kids.jpg?w=468&h=468http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131011211015-obama-malala-meet-story-top.jpg


9 year old girl who survived Obama drone attack (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431958-Girl-who-survived-Obama-drone-attack-is-younger-than-his-daughter)

Doubt this was sudden rage. The scum who did this, no matter who set it up are evil. Killing children is unacceptable period. And that goes for you too obama.

ExPatPaki
12-16-2014, 03:11 PM
Keep in mind that the Pakistan Taliban and the Afghan Taliban are two distinct organizations. The Afghan Taliban has condemned this attack.

The Pakistani Taliban has been speculated to be working with the Afghan and Indian intelligence agencies. You can read more about that here on this blog written by Indian diplomat MK Bhadrakumar: Plain-speaking with Obama may help (http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/12/08/plain-speaking-with-obama-may-help/)


The ground realities are grim, to say the least. The latest development of the ‘repatriation’ of the dreaded Pakistani Taliban leader Latifullah Mehsud, who has been in the US-Afghan custody for the past one year, brings home how much of an ‘outsider’ India has become as regards Obama’s Afghan strategies – although India has vital security interests in the Afghan situation.

The Pakistani officials are beside themselves with glee that the US has handed over to them on a platter a terrorist who is a gold mine of information regarding alleged Indian intelligence activities in Kabul directed against Pakistan.

The News has quoted a Pakistani military official as saying Hamid Karzai had been stubbornly resisting the Pakistani demarche to expedite Mehsud. He said, “He [Karzai] was afraid of the repercussions of their release as everybody knew about the nexus of the Pakistani Taliban with NDS [Afghan intelligence] and India’s RAW.”

Some very tricky questions arise here. All indications are that Mehsud was working for the Afghan intelligence when he was nabbed by the US military in Logar, hardly 35 kilometers from Kabul, in October last year as he was travelling in an Afghan security convoy.

Now, Mehsud was in American custody in Bagram base for over a year and everything about him must be known to the American intelligence.

What emerges is that Mehsud’s ‘repatriation’ to the Pakistani military is intended as a ‘confidence-building’ measure on the part of the US and the Kabul government, signaling to Rawalpindi that the Afghan intelligence is coming clean on its activities in Pakistan.

Most certainly, this sort of thing is possible only because a purge of the Afghan intelligence set-up has been under way under the orders of Ghani (and backed by the US military) so that the covert operations directed against Pakistan are being wound up.

Plainly put, it’s ‘Sayonara’ for Delhi when it comes to intelligence cooperation with Kabul. No doubt, there are serious implications here for regional security — and India’s national security, of course.

While the US’ (and Ghani’s) compunctions to appease the Pakistani military leadership is understandable, what is incomprehensible is why the same goodwill is lacking on the part of Obama administration with regard to the long-standing Indian request for accessing David Headley.

But then, unlike the Pakistani military, Delhi lacks the grit to tell the Americans on the face, ‘Buddy, it’s all or nothing’. Ironically, yet another billion dollar defence deal has just been awarded to the Americans within the week of Mehsud’s repatriation to Rawalpindi. Didn’t our left hand know that the right hand has just been bitten?

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ExPatPaki
12-16-2014, 07:24 PM
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Working Poor
12-17-2014, 06:04 AM
I wonder why groups like the taliban and isis are not attacking the elite? Is it because of who they work for?

ExPatPaki
12-17-2014, 07:08 AM
I wonder why groups like the taliban and isis are not attacking the elite? Is it because of who they work for?

Depends of which or what type of elite. Both groups have killed/kidnapped politicians.

UWDude
12-17-2014, 07:24 AM
I suspect there is more to it. (something beyond the sensationalist headlines)

Who was running this school? what exactly were they teaching these children in this Army school?

I followed a blog for a few years,, by a girl in Iraq. I have seen several intelligent and educated Muslim females.
Education is not widely opposed. (except for minority groups like the Yadzi)

I have my suspicions about who and why of this "school".

It was a Pakistani Military School, composed mostly of kids of military families.

amy31416
12-17-2014, 09:06 AM
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Still not even close to being appropriate or justified, but it's telling that we're probably being lied to about the motivations behind the attack.

jbauer
12-17-2014, 10:06 AM
It may deter parents from sending their children to CIA funded schools.

CIA or not, kids are kids and its F'ed up to kill a bunch of em regardless of the decisions their parents made or didn't make.

tod evans
12-17-2014, 10:11 AM
CIA or not, kids are kids and its F'ed up to kill a bunch of em regardless of the decisions their parents made or didn't make.

What's really fucked up is that the US taxpayers will be footing the bill for these atrocities for the next few generations...

We're forced to fund the wars then we're forced to fund what's left after the war...

I wasn't consulted!