Hostage Situation Sidney Australia Cafe

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[TaftFan]

Islamic flag couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.

[2young2vote]

They are holding hostages to scare the nation in a different way than suicide bombings would. They didn't just outright bomb it because their goals are different.

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Flag used in Sydney cafe siege belongs to Syrian extremist group Jabhat al-Nusra which preaches jihad and has links to terror groups ISIS and Al Qaeda

The flag displayed in the Martin Place siege belongs to Jabhat al-Nusra
'There is only one God' is written on the flag in Arabic
The extremist group was formed to fight the Syrian government
The group has links with al-Qa'ida which carried out the 9/11 attacks
It has not previously not targeted Western victims
Its aim is to defeat the Syrian government and form its own Sunni state

By Candace Sutton for Daily Mail Australia

Published: 19:54 EST, 14 December 2014 | Updated: 22:57 EST, 14 December 2014


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[tangent4ronpaul]

Anyone else tracking this?

The gunman released 5 hostages. All employees. No one has been hurt. There are supposedly 2 bombs in the cafe and several others around Sydney. Hostage negotiator is in contact with him. Supposedly about 15 hostages still inside. He wants to talk to the prime Minister.

AJAM is spending a lot of time live on site.

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[idiom]

The PC on this is insane.

"Avoiding using inflammatory language like 'hostage' "

[MRK]

The PC on this is insane.

"Avoiding using inflammatory language like 'hostage' "

Um, consider adding some profanity characters after the h-word next time you use it like that on a public forum.

[tangent4ronpaul]

#IllRideWithYou is trending on twitter.

Basically, it's people that are using public transportation saying they will be on a certain bus/train and volunteering to watch someones back that is wearing Muslim garb, like a burka against anyone that would strike out against them when things like this happen.

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[NACBA]

Uber has crashed into its latest public relations disaster after attempting to charge passengers inflated prices to leave central Sydney as a hostage crisis unfolded in the city.

The soaring fares prompted a backlash on social media, and the online car sharing service quickly reversed its position, offering free rides and agreeing to refund users up to $200 Australian dollars ($165).

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/15/news/uber-sydney-cafe-siege-fares/index.html

[tangent4ronpaul]

Shit just went down BIG TIME!

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[Suzanimal]

Staff and customers were forced to hold what appeared to be a black Islamic flag against the window of the Lindt Chocolat Café in Martin Place in Sydney's Central Business District.

The armed man has been named as 49-year-old Man Haron Monis.

Sydney police have said he is well known to them.

Five of the hostages were captured on camera fleeing the building.

Two female cafe workers ran from the building at about 5pm and about an hour before that, three men escaped.

Shortly after 2am at least five more hostages escaped from the building.


Police then entered the building and gunfire and explosions were heard outside the cafe.

Ambulance crews were called to the scene and people were receiving medical treatment outside the building.

It was not known exactly how many people are inside the cafe, although it was reported that a Lindt executive had said there were 10 staff members in the venue.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/sydney-lindt-cafe-siege-live-gunfire-and-explosions-heard-after-at-least-five-more-hostages-escape-30835779.html

[ExPatPaki]

I feel bad for the hostages and am sorry that this situation occurred. But at the same time THIS IS AWESOME, hahaha. So fucking good. This motherfucker came to Australia 13 years ago, proclaiming to be a 'liberal' Shia Muslim cleric from Iran, expressed his love for the USA, Australia and Canada. The Western govts of course will give anybody who is a critic of the 'evil' Iranian regime asylum. He claimed that his wife and kids were being held hostage by the 'evil' Iranian regime and then he ended up being involved in his wife's murder. Next time, hopefully, western governments will do more of vetting process when they give asylum to obscure liberal Muslims.

Here is a transcript of this piece of shit's interview with Australian media 13 years ago. He also goes by "Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi". http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/religionreport/new-cardinals-for-rome-george-bush-muslims-in/3478556#transcript

LandDestroyer has a great blog post on this:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/12/who-created-cartoon-character-man-haron.html


December 15, 2014 (Tony Cartalucci - LD) As predicted, the suspect amid the "Sydney Siege," has long been on the radar of Australian law enforcement, as well as a frequent visitor to Australia's court system.

Before that, however, he came to Australia as a political refugee, an opponent of what he called the "Iranian regime," and was even interviewed by Australia's ABC network in 2001 as part of an ongoing anti-Iranian propaganda campaign.

It has been revealed that long-time agitator, alias "Man Haron Monis," also known as "Manteghi Boroujerdi," was the suspect amid the so-called "Sydney Siege" hostage crisis. Monis/Boroujerdi claims to be a Shia'a religious leader and is often seen in press photos dressed as one.

Despite this, he was at the center of a hostage crisis requesting the flag of the "Islamic State" terrorist organization be delivered to him while claiming association with other ISIS "brothers."

Neither Islamic nor a state, ISIS is led by US, Israeli, and Saudi-backed Wahabi terrorists, promoting a perversion of Sunni Islam - the bane to both genuine Sunnis and Shia'a worldwide and against which both the nations of Syria and Iran are fighting.

Monis/Boroujerdi rose to infamy amid two notable incidents - one being his involvement in the stabbing death and burning of his ex-wife - the other being his controversial campaign of sending hate-letters to the families of dead Australian soldiers killed during the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. The latter was used extensively to stir up division across the pro and anti-war political divide.

The Australian in a September 2013 article titled, "'Cleric' Man Haron Monis punished for offensive letters written to families of dead Diggers," reported that:

A SELF-styled Muslim cleric has been sentenced to 300 hours of community service for penning "grossly offensive" letters to families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan.
Man Haron Monis, also known as Sheik Haron, was also placed on a two-year good behaviour bond.
So too was his co-accused and partner, 34-year-old Amirah Droudis, who pleaded guilty to one count of aiding and abetting him.
In December of 2013, the Australian Daily Telegraph would report in an article titled, "'Hate' sheik Man Horan Monis and girlfriend Amirzh Droudis granted bail on murder charges," that:
Monis is charged as an accessory before and after the fact to the murder of Noleen Hayson Pal, 30, who was stabbed 18 times and set alight outside a western Sydney unit in April.
Monis/Boroujerdi's Origins Story

But before Monis/Boroujerdi's recent run-ins with the law and his role as chief "Muslim boogeyman" in Australia, he was "Manteghi Boroujerdi," a "victim" of the "Iranian regime" who was in love with Western society.

Australia's ABC in its "Religion Report" dated January 31, 2001, introduced Monis/Boroujerdi as follows:
...while in Sydney we talk to Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi, an Iranian cleric espousing a liberal brand of Islam - dangerously liberal, as his views have led to his wife and two daughters being held hostage in Iran.

The interview itself is used as yet another vehicle to carry along Western propaganda long-aimed at Iran. It claims Monis/Boroujerdi's family is in grave danger and that Monis/Boroujerdi himself would be executed should he ever return to Iran. It quotes Monis/Boroujerdi several times including claims he was formally associated with Iranian intelligence:
In Iran, mostly I have been involved with the Ministry of Intelligence and Security.
And was in contact with the UN regarding security issues in Iran:
...more than four years I have not seen my family, and the Iranian regime doesn't let them come out. In fact I can say they are hostage; as a hostage the Iranian regime wants to make me silent, because I have some secret information about government, and about their terrorist operations in the war. I sent a letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and somebody on behalf of Mr Kofi Anan sent the answer, and they want to do something. I have hope and always I pray and ask God to solve my problem.

At one point during the interview Monis/Boroujerdi professes his love of Australia, Canada, the US, and UK claiming:
...we can say Australia, Canada, England, USA, so many western countries, they are religious societies. They don't say 'We are religious', but in fact the spirit of religion, we can see the spirit of religion in these societies. And some other countries in the Middle East, in Asia, they say 'We are Islamic' they have a name of Islamic, but in fact they are not religious societies and religious governments. Whenever I walk in the street, whenever I go out in Australia, I feel I am in a real religious society. I don't want to say it is perfect, we don't have a perfect society on the earth, but when we compare, if we compare Australia with Iran and other countries in the Middle East, we can say it is heaven.

However, later in 2008, Monis/Boroujerdi's activities drew the attention of real Shia'a religious leaders in Australia who asked Australian security agents to investigate him. In an Australian article titled, "Call to probe mystery Shia cleric," it was reported that:
FEDERAL agents have been urged by the nation's senior Shia leader, Kamal Mousselmani, to investigate an Iranian man purporting to be a prominent Islamic cleric.
Sheik Mousselmani told The Australian yesterday the mystery cleric - who has been identified as Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi on his website after appearing under the name Sheik Haron - was not a genuine Shia spiritual leader.
He said there were no ayatollahs - supreme Shia scholars - in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was.
"We don't know him and we have got nothing to do with him," Sheik Mousselmani said. "The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility."
But it was the Australian media itself who introduced him publicly as an "Ayatollah" and the Australian government that vetted him and allegedly granted him political asylum. He was allegedly in contact with the UN and was used to stir up anti-Iranian sentiment in Australia. It is then highly suspicious that now both the Australian media and the Australian government appear to have no knowledge of who he is or where he came from.

For someone used as part of the West's anti-Iranian propaganda campaign, and who was granted political asylum into Australia, but who is now supposedly unknown to those who invited him in and used him, there is clearly more to the story of Monis/Boroujerdi - a story that may then offer insight into his latest performance. Perhaps most ironic of all is the fact that the "Iranian regime" he was used to demonize apparently did not kill his wife - instead, he himself is suspected of doing so.

Whatever the case is, Monis/Boroujerdi is certainly no "loan wolf terrorist." He, at best, is yet another Frankenstein of the establishment run amok after an abortive attempt to cultivate and use him to advance Western foreign and domestic policy. At worse, he is directly involved in an intelligence operation to further inflame division in Australian society and promote the long stalled war in Syria aimed at regime change there, before heading to Iran - the scorn of Monis/Boroujerdi.

An omnipresent all-invasive surveillance state that is constantly "blindsided" by terror attacks carried out by criminals and characters possessing extensive criminal records and who are well-acquainted with that state's law enforcement, media, and even government, is testament to the fact that such surveillance hasn't been and never was intended to serve the public's best interests nor to keep them safe - but rather another system of control and manipulation to allow true dangerous to human civilization to endure with impunity.

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Question is why reported Iranian born hostage taker is waving ISIS flag when Iran is bombing ISIS in Syria.


Or is Revolution Muslim 3.0 not happy about Australia's inactive involvement in Syria?


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Yousef al-Khattab was born Joseph Cohen, in Brooklyn, New York. He was jewish, a settler who went to Palestine to live on the Israeli settlements.
http://thebrooklynink.com/2010/04/23...rew-up-jewish/ (http://thebrooklynink.com/2010/04/23/11041-yousef-al-khattab-man-behind-virulent-islamic-website-grew-up-jewish/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0


Similar conspiracy theories are springing up about "ISIS Islamic State" also now and conspiracy theorists claim al-Baghdadi's real name is Simon Elliot :
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/56272...m#.VA6Mrq7zbwf (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/562727/20140814/isis-zionist-plot-theory.htm#.VA6Mrq7zbwf)

ISIS and Israel to attack Hezbullah in Lebanon (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459389-ISIS-and-Israel-to-attack-Hezbullah-in-Lebanon&)

First release of ISIS execution video came from an ex Israeli soldier Rita Katz
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459290-First-release-of-ISIS-execution-video-came-from-an-ex-Israeli-soldier-Rita-Katz&)

This is in AU media:

Sydney siege: Man behind stand-off named as Iranian cleric Man Haron Monis

By the National Reporting Team's Lorna Knowles December 16, 2014, 3:15 am


https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/141216/5969246_5969244_16x9_700x394-1a8trkd.jpg?x=656&sig=C3iiVdpmENTamg22vJih2A-- Man Haron Monis is the suspected assailiant behind the Sydney cafe siege at Martin Place.
He is also facing more than 40 sexual and indecent assault charges and has a conviction for sending offensive letters to the families of deceased Australian soldiers.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25780842/sydney-siege-man-behind-siege-named-as-iranian-cleric-man-haron-monis/

[ExPatPaki]

It's a shame that the media is calling him a 'cleric'. He has no apparent clerical education from Qom, all of the real Shia clerics in Australia have distanced themselves from him since at least 2008. This dude and his girlfriend (what kind of cleric has a girlfriend?) killed his ex-wife.

[PRB]

and the winner today is : UBER!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/12/15/sydney-hostage-uber-pricing/20422427/

[ExPatPaki]

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[Occam's Banana]

Report From Australia
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/report-from-australia/
Lew Rockwell (16 December 2014)

Writes J.D. Steelman:

The media and government are trying to whitewash the events in Sydney at the Lindt Café. Channel 7, whose studio facilities are directly across from the café ,are reporting that a police sniper killed the gunman AND then the police firing started. If this is so then it means that the dead and injured are the result of the police not the gunman. When you see the footage being aired on local TV here in Sydney it is a wonder anyone survived the police attack.

Curiously the Lindt company (owners of the café) official statement expresses sorrow for the deaths, injury, and trama to the customers, staff and their friends and family BUT does not mention anything about the police and government agencies handling of the matter. This suggests their displeasure with the manner in which this was handled by the police and the government agencies.

The gunman was a bit of a local publicity hound for his causes and apparently selected the café because it is in the financial and government district of Sydney and also across from the local TV station, Channel 7. I knew the Big End of Town, as the ruling class is called in Sydney, would not let the siege go into the morning trading day and so it did not.

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(Reuters) - Heavily armed Australian police stormed a Sydney cafe early on Tuesday morning and freed a number of hostages being held there at gunpoint, in a dramatic end to a 16-hour siege in which three people including the attacker were killed.


Police have not publicly identified the gunman but a police source named him as Man Haron Monis, an Iranian refugee and self-styled sheikh known for sending hate mail to the families of Australian troops killed in Afghanistan. He was charged last year with being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife.


Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the gunman was well known to authorities and had a history of extremism and mental instability.


During the siege at the Lindt cafe in Sydney's central business district, hostages had been forced to display an Islamic flag, igniting fears of a jihadist attack in the heart of the country's biggest city.


Around 2 a.m. local time (10.00 a.m. ET on Monday), at least six people believed to have been held captive managed to flee after gunshots were heard coming from the cafe.
Police then moved in, with heavy gunfire and blasts from stun grenades echoing from the building.


"They made the call because they believed at that time if they didn't enter there would have been many more lives lost," said Andrew Scipione, police commissioner for the state of New South Wales.


An investigation would determine whether hostages were killed by the gunman or died in cross-fire[]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/15/us-australia-security-idUSKBN0JS0WX20141215

[ExPatPaki]

This situation is to be blamed entirely on Australia. The Islamic Republic of Iran is completely blameless.

Iran: Extradition of Sydney attacker refused
Tehran says it demanded extradition of Sydney cafe hostage-taker in 2000, but its request was rejected by Australia. (http://www.aljazeera.com/video/asia-pacific/2014/12/iran-extradition-sydney-attacker-refused-2014121752658394786.html)


Iran's police chief has said his country had demanded the extradition of Man Haron Monis, the Sydney hostage taker, 14 years ago over charges of fraud, but the request was rejected by the Australian authorities.

[maybemaybenot]

This situation is to be blamed entirely on Australia. The Islamic Republic of Iran is completely blameless.

Iran: Extradition of Sydney attacker refused
Tehran says it demanded extradition of Sydney cafe hostage-taker in 2000, but its request was rejected by Australia. (http://www.aljazeera.com/video/asia-pacific/2014/12/iran-extradition-sydney-attacker-refused-2014121752658394786.html)

ExPatPaki, your signature says Sharia = Islam, and that hate for Sharia = hate for Islam. You also say support for Israel = support for genocide against Muslims. That's interesting. Because the Hadith says Muslims will have to kill the Jews for supporting the anti-Christ. and the Hamas charter (governing Gaza) quotes this. So... it looks like Gaza wants genocide. Am I supposed to be okay with that? Palestine executes ppl for criticizing Islam, or for converting from Islam to another religion, or for selling land to Jews. I don't like that. I like Israel's laws, where Muslims vote, own land, go to public school, the whole thing. Do you support Palestine's (Sharia) law which calls for the execution of critics of Islam? Let's see what you mean when you say anyone who hates Sharia is automatically a warmonger.

Edit: LMAO Of course ExPatPaki negs me for the fiftieth time, but he can't answer questions. Awww. Its too bad. Maybe one day you'll learn to form a coherent sentence. As I keep saying, I take pride in the neg reps I get on this site, because I come here to confront paranoid schizo's like ExPatPaki. Naturally they'll neg me. Luckily I'm not in a country governed by a majority of ExPatPaki's; they'd execute me, not just neg rep me.