Agent provocateur cop pulls gun on Berkeley protestors after being outted

[devil21]

Seems we're inching closer and closer to that one really bad incident occurring.

http://wn.ktvu.com/story/27606016/undercover-cop-pulls-gun-on-demonstrators

http://ktvu.images.worldnow.com/images/6190153_G.jpg



OAKLAND (BCN) -- A demonstration that started in Berkeley ended abruptly in Oakland Wednesday night when an undercover California Highway Patrol officer pulled out a gun and pointed it at the crowd.

Only a few dozen protesters remained from a mass of between 150 and 200 people. Two CHP officers, both dressed as civilians and wearing bandanas over their faces, were walking with the group when the demonstrators started pointing at them yelling, "Hey, they're undercover, they're cops!"

Oakland police Lt. Chris Bolton wrote on Twitter Thursday that the officer was assigned to the CHP and was not an Oakland police officer.

One Berkeley resident, Dylan, who declined to give his last name, said he pulled off the officer's bandana.

The two CHP officers started to walk away, but the protesters persisted, screaming at the two undercover cops. One of the officers pushed a protester aside. The man responded by pushing back and then the officer tackled him to the ground, handcuffing him.

The crowd, incensed, began to gather around them. The second officer pulled out his gun and pointed it at the crowd. More officers quickly arrived and dispersed the crowd.

more at link

[Occam's Banana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuRUlqveNYg

[phill4paul]

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_50/803301/pc-141211-polics-demonstration-jsw-727a_df1361a7c07b9ff1e5d42c4319da3fd6.nbcnews-ux-1360-900.jpg

[devil21]

I swear he looks familiar but I can't place his face. Something else cop related....

eta: the parallels to the V4V scene is eerie.

[CPUd]

I guess that is one way to break up a protest.

[Brian4Liberty]

If these cops are caught throwing things, breaking things or instigating, then they are truly agent provocateurs, and it would be a big story.

But considering the illegal vandalism, looting and attacks on peaceful protesters taking place, it makes sense for the Police to do this.

[devil21]

If these cops are caught throwing things, breaking things or instigating, then they are truly agent provocateurs, and it would be a big story.

But considering the illegal vandalism, looting and attacks on peaceful protesters taking place, it makes sense for the Police to do this.

Like all the other times agent provocateurs were exposed and the media jumped all over it? :rolleyes: What if the looting is done by the agents or they start it and encourage others? That's what a provocateur (root word provoke) does. Assuming this story is accurate, others obviously thought his behavior was worth their attention. If cop is trying to gain intelligence at least be unarmed.

[devil21]

Anybody else seeing a hyperlink in my thread title above? The forum structure links? I don't see other threads with hyperlinks there.

[twomp]

Cops have long been suspected of being provocateurs at Oakland and NYC protests. It's always the same, some group dressed in black with their faces masked break some windows (are never caught) and give cops the excuse they need to crack down. With support from the community. Is it so ridiculous that they would be capable of this? Let's face it, even if they were caught red handed on video tape. There would be no repercussions for them anyways.

[puppetmaster]

He has his beat down gloves on......

[twomp]

If an undercover cop pushes you and you push him back, does that count as assaulting a police officer?

[Red Green]

If an undercover cop pushes you and you push him back, does that count as assaulting a police officer?

If an undercover pig pushes you and you don't immediately thank him for setting you straight, you're looking at a straight-up beat down and a resisting arrest charge. You got that now, mundane?

[brushfire]

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_50/803301/pc-141211-polics-demonstration-jsw-727a_df1361a7c07b9ff1e5d42c4319da3fd6.nbcnews-ux-1360-900.jpg


Inching closer... Ol Spurlock wouldn't be much of a match against an armed crowd.

[phill4paul]

Inching closer... Ol Spurlock wouldn't be much of a match against an armed crowd.

'ol spurlock' wouldn't be much of a match if the intent of the crowd was to do harm upon him. Armed or unarmed.

[fisharmor]

I swear he looks familiar but I can't place his face. Something else cop related....
http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_53855.jpg

[ZENemy]

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_53855.jpg

UNCANNY!

[twomp]

Pay attention to the bolded parts.


On Wednesday, a police brutality protest spontaneously emerged in the Oakland, CA area in response to recent revelations that grand juries failed to indict the officers responsible for the controversial deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The demonstrators met on the campus of the University of California, Berkeley and marched throughout the streets of Oakland. According to KTVU, the group of around 150 to 200 protesters initially disrupted PayPal founder Peter Thiel’s talk at Berkeley before leaving campus and marching downtown. The crowd of demonstrators swelled in number as it moved through the city.

Later on, as the protest thinned down to around 30 to 50 people, protesters noticed two suspicious masked men, who, according to tweets by eyewitnesses, seen below and cited by SFGate, had allegedly been attempting to incite the crowd to commit acts of vandalism and banging on the windows of local businesses. The relative calm of the protests faded, and the demonstrations descended into chaos, as some among the crowd began looting and throwing rocks at shop windows. Angry demonstrators circled around the two masked men, believing them to be agent provocateurs sent by police to incite violence and discredit the protest. What happened next is in dispute and ended in a California Highway Patrol officer pulling out his service weapon on protesters and a photographer covering the protests for the San Francisco Chronicle.

INCITING the crowd.

http://benswann.com/agent-provocateur-masked-cop-uncovered-by-oakland-protesters-points-gun-at-freelance-photographer/

[otherone]

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_53855.jpg


http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mnierandy_6065.jpg

[CaptainAmerica]

say what you want,think what you want...I think its obvious that things are gonna get really really bad in amerika before it gets better IF thats even possible at this point

[devil21]

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_53855.jpg

Funny but no, I recognize his face from somewhere else and it's not Spurlock. I want to say some other police brutality article/video I came across previously. Seeing how he handles himself it wouldn't surprise me if he's got a history of bad behavior with CHP.

[brushfire]

'ol spurlock' wouldn't be much of a match if the intent of the crowd was to do harm upon him. Armed or unarmed.

How big was that crowd? As amazing as this photo is, I dot see how many people were there.

[phill4paul]

How big was that crowd? As amazing as this photo is, I dot see how many people were there.

From the article above 30-50.

[Todd]

If an undercover cop pushes you and you push him back, does that count as assaulting a police officer?

Unfortunately in bizarre-O' world, Yes. That has been the precident

[Brian4Liberty]

Pay attention to the bolded parts.


protesters noticed two suspicious masked men, who, according to tweets by eyewitnesses, seen below and cited by SFGate, had allegedly been attempting to incite the crowd to commit acts of vandalism and banging on the windows of local businesses.

INCITING the crowd.


It would be nice to see the video of that.

[jmdrake]

If an undercover cop pushes you and you push him back, does that count as assaulting a police officer?

Well if you are the son of a judge (George Zimmerman) you can get away with assaulting an undercover cop.

[69360]

If you couldn't tell that dude was a cop you are doing it all wrong. He looks totally out of place.

Not to defend him, but he really had no choice but reveal himself and draw or get his ass kicked. At least he had his finger off the trigger.

[devil21]

Articles on this incident are picking up steam and whoo-boy the FOP comment shills are all over them. Half of them can barely put together a written sentence.

Check out the comment section if you want a good scare:
http://mashable.com/2014/12/11/undercover-cop-oakland-protests/

[JK/SEA]

heh....if one suspects someone of being an undercover, tail them, keep your distance, and have your cam ready, or rolling full time.

[twomp]

If you couldn't tell that dude was a cop you are doing it all wrong. He looks totally out of place.

Not to defend him, but he really had no choice but reveal himself and draw or get his ass kicked. At least he had his finger off the trigger.

They were about to kick his ass? And you know this how? Did you see a video we weren't aware of? What did they do to make you come to that conclusion? Is that an area known for people "kicking cops asses?"

Please enlighten us. You say, "not to defend him" then you follow up with a sentence that defends him.

[SeanTX]

If you couldn't tell that dude was a cop you are doing it all wrong. He looks totally out of place.


This will be just another tactic they will use to create chaos and discourage "average" people from joining in with these protests.

Many people who might otherwise want to join in a protest will be afraid to go, fearing that they might "look out of place" and maybe will be attacked by others who think they are "undercover."

[phill4paul]

They were about to kick his ass? And you know this how? Did you see a video we weren't aware of? What did they do to make you come to that conclusion? Is that an area known for people "kicking cops asses?"

Please enlighten us. You say, "not to defend him" then you follow up with a sentence that defends him.

Hey, at least he had his finger off the trigger.

[devil21]

That black lady is pissed. Dunno who she's yelling at though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kR502SrB6c

[presence]

http://u.s.kqed.net/2014/12/11/CHPUndercoverGun.jpg

[presence]

http://www.uglyjudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/1920x1920-2.jpg

[JK/SEA]

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_50/803301/pc-141211-polics-demonstration-jsw-727a_df1361a7c07b9ff1e5d42c4319da3fd6.nbcnews-ux-1360-900.jpg

billboard worthy?...

[JK/SEA]

http://www.uglyjudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/1920x1920-2.jpg

caption this.

''we're the police and we're here to help''

[presence]

caption this.

''we're the police and we're here to help''

I was thinking

douchebag sucker punches self with telescopic steel baton while calling for backup

[Dr.3D]

If you couldn't tell that dude was a cop you are doing it all wrong. He looks totally out of place.

Not to defend him, but he really had no choice but reveal himself and draw or get his ass kicked. At least he had his finger off the trigger.
He's lucky some good guy with a pistol didn't take him out.

[devil21]

http://u.s.kqed.net/2014/12/11/CHPUndercoverGun.jpg

Where have I seen this pic before?


Oh yeah, now I remember.
http://static.infowars.com/2013/04/i/general/bead.jpg

[JK/SEA]

Where have I seen this pic before?


Oh yeah, now I remember.
http://static.infowars.com/2013/04/i/general/bead.jpg

just like the movies...cool...

[presence]

Where have I seen this pic before?



oh I thought you meant this one:

http://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/200814gun-620x320.jpg

of course it could have been this one:

http://images.dailykos.com/images/99866/large/RTR42CYO.jpg?1408038446

or this one:

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/53ea6ea2ecad04ed6fbfd807-1200-924/ferguson-missouri-8.jpg



or this:

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/michael-brown-gun.jpg?w=620&h=464


lots to choose from really... even this one kinda gives you that warm fuzzy feeling:

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/october2013/281013check.jpg

then there was this guy in philly

http://rt.com/files/news/28/97/40/00/000_130769924.jpg


muzzle flashing us mundanes is kind of protocol now; it keeps us in check.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77163000/jpg/_77163457_453851540.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/141124234721-30-ferguson-reaction-1124-horizontal-gallery.jpg

[thoughtomator]

If these cops are caught throwing things, breaking things or instigating, then they are truly agent provocateurs, and it would be a big story.

But considering the illegal vandalism, looting and attacks on peaceful protesters taking place, it makes sense for the Police to do this.

Circular logic is circular: without abuse of police power, there wouldn't be vandalism and looting or any protests at all to begin with. Compounding the problem with additional abuses is not a route to peace or law & order.

[Brian4Liberty]

Circular logic is circular: without abuse of police power, there wouldn't be vandalism and looting or any protests at all to begin with. Compounding the problem with additional abuses is not a route to peace or law & order.

As Jimi would say, "are you experienced?"

In my experience, the vandalism occurs no matter what. It can be a big party or losing a big game. There doesn't have to be a bigger cause. Just like there are people who constantly call for war, there are also those who want to engage in, and instigate violence. Human nature. For those who engage in violence, there usually is no bigger cause, just the rush of the moment.

The idiots and cowards engage in violence, and then run away and wait for the Police blow-back to hit the innocent.

[UWDude]

As Jimi would say, "are you experienced?"

In my experience, the vandalism occurs no matter what.

What experience?
There were over 1000 Occupy protests at once. Most of them never had a single window smashed.
But your "experience" is what you saw on the news, the few isolated incidents when it did happen.
Same with fights, rape, etc.

And I think you missed his point. Without police murders, there would not be anyone protesting police murders in the first place.

[devil21]

http://u.s.kqed.net/2014/12/11/CHPUndercoverGun.jpg

Hmmm...I see a resemblance to the Eric the PA "cop killer".

[invisible]

If you couldn't tell that dude was a cop you are doing it all wrong. He looks totally out of place.

Not to defend him, but he really had no choice but reveal himself and draw or get his ass kicked. At least he had his finger off the trigger.

Yeah, those people forced him to do it by not properly grovelling with a few well-placed "yes Sirs" when the cop encouraged them to smash windows and loot their "ghetto", right?

[UWDude]

oh I thought you meant this one:

http://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/200814gun-620x320.jpg

of course it could have been this one:

http://images.dailykos.com/images/99866/large/RTR42CYO.jpg?1408038446

or this one:

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/53ea6ea2ecad04ed6fbfd807-1200-924/ferguson-missouri-8.jpg



or this:

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/michael-brown-gun.jpg?w=620&h=464


lots to choose from really... even this one kinda gives you that warm fuzzy feeling:

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/october2013/281013check.jpg

then there was this guy in philly

http://rt.com/files/news/28/97/40/00/000_130769924.jpg


muzzle flashing us mundanes is kind of protocol now; it keeps us in check.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77163000/jpg/_77163457_453851540.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/141124234721-30-ferguson-reaction-1124-horizontal-gallery.jpg

This is how America interprets the first amendment:

the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

I can tell you that every protest I went to was 100% non violent. Yes, there was a lot of cussing, but we were mad. Most people just don't know what happens when you really try to assemble to petition your government.

And that's the first amendment, folks. the so called American, "freedom of speech". This is what it looks like 50% of the time in protests. I'm not kidding. Cops will do everything to fight you. and they fight dirty. I had twp try to set my up for felony assault on an officer.

One pushed me in the back, while I was telling them which criminals they should be arresting, since Westlake Park is a public park, and if you cannot hold a peaceful demonstration in a public area? Where can you? That is why we took to the streets. Anyways, Westlake Park is in front of a Bank of America. They were trying to wake up people in the park, (this is when there were only about 100 left). I told them it was not nice to wake up sleeping people, which took them aback a bit.

Anyways, I told them they should be arresting the people from there, (pointed to Bank of America). This is dead of night, too, not like a protest, but just a few dozen people in a park, and a dozen or so police. Very quietly, I might add.

So one of the cops scooted behind me, and tried to push me into his partner. My feet held, but my fists flew up.

I flipped around, and yelled at the cop who pushed me, "Why did you do that!? Who trained you to do that!? Where did you learn that!?" He backed up quickly , I was chasing him across the park, yelling at him. Everybody else was just stunned.

After that, things de-escalated.

But this was everyday stuff, really.

Anyways

No freedom to assemble means no right to protest, which means no Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech has been dead for a long time. You can say a lot of things, but there are some things you can't. A park full of radicals, like every single one of you are, all with their own pet views, was quite an experience.


Anyways

That's experience.

[JK/SEA]

This is how America interprets the first amendment:


I can tell you that every protest I went to was 100% non violent. Yes, there was a lot of cussing, but we were mad. Most people just don't know what happens when you really try to assemble to petition your government.

And that's the first amendment, folks. the so called American, "freedom of speech". This is what it looks like 50% of the time in protests. I'm not kidding. Cops will do everything to fight you. and they fight dirty. I had twp try to set my up for felony assault on an officer.

One pushed me in the back, while I was telling them which criminals they should be arresting, since Westlake Park is a public park, and if you cannot hold a peaceful demonstration in a public area? Where can you? That is why we took to the streets. Anyways, Westlake Park is in front of a Bank of America. They were trying to wake up people in the park, (this is when there were only about 100 left). I told them it was not nice to wake up sleeping people, which took them aback a bit.

Anyways, I told them they should be arresting the people from there, (pointed to Bank of America). This is dead of night, too, not like a protest, but just a few dozen people in a park, and a dozen or so police. Very quietly, I might add.

So one of the cops scooted behind me, and tried to push me into his partner. My feet held, but my fists flew up.

I flipped around, and yelled at the cop who pushed me, "Why did you do that!? Who trained you to do that!? Where did you learn that!?" He backed up quickly , I was chasing him across the park, yelling at him. Everybody else was just stunned.

After that, things de-escalated.

But this was everyday stuff, really.

Anyways

No freedom to assemble means no right to protest, which means no Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech has been dead for a long time. You can say a lot of things, but there are some things you can't. A park full of radicals, like every single one of you are, all with their own pet views, was quite an experience.


Anyways

That's experience.

i don't protest anymore in the streets, i write letters with colorful language to my elected representative.....

oh, and sometimes i make a call to DC and tell them who i am.....