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Lucille
12-08-2014, 04:28 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/08/tamir-rices-mother-speaks-out-rand-paul


The Washington Post named (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whos-most-likely-to-end-up-as-republicans-nominee-in-2016-presidential-race/2014/12/07/b37cafca-7e3c-11e4-81fd-8c4814dfa9d7_story.html) Sen. Rand Paul the GOP frontrunner for 2016.

Meanwhile, the Republican Party establishment (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/us/politics/gop-donors-seek-to-narrow-field-of-presidential-candidates-to-one.html) is in search of a candidate it likes.


1. Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.). People used to roll their eyes when we said Paul had a real chance to be the Republican nominee in 2016. Not anymore. Paul has a unique activist and fundraising base, thanks to his father’s two runs for president, and has shown considerable savvy in his outreach to the establishment end of the party over the past few years. Paul still says odd things — his blaming of high cigarette taxes for Eric Garner’s chokehold death at the hands of New York City police being the latest — that would get him in trouble in the heat of a presidential race. But he is the candidate furthest along in the planning process for president and the one with the most strength in early states such as Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Why? It's the truth. Oh wait...BECAUSE it's the truth.


Dozens of the Republican Party’s leading presidential donors and fund-raisers have begun privately discussing how to clear the field for a single establishment candidate to carry the party’s banner in 2016, fearing that a prolonged primary would bolster Hillary Rodham Clinton, the likely Democratic candidate.

The conversations, described in interviews with a variety of the Republican Party’s most sought-after donors, are centered on the three potential candidates who have the largest existing base of major contributors and overlapping ties to the top tier of those who are uncommitted: Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida and Mitt Romney.

Looks like, once again, the neo-Trot establishment is not interested in winning the WH.

Working Poor
12-08-2014, 05:31 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/08/tamir-rices-mother-speaks-out-rand-paul






Why? It's the truth. Oh wait...BECAUSE it's the truth.



Looks like, once again, the neo-Trot establishment is not interested in winning the WH.

Yea they would rather have Hillary...

Millennial Conservatarian
12-09-2014, 01:13 PM
Yea they would rather have Hillary...

The debate will become VERY interesting in this country if/when you see NeoCons like McCain, Kristol, Adelson, and some Wall Street Republicans jumping ship and supporting the Neo Con Corporatist Hillary in 2016 against Rand Paul. It's very well possible that enough good liberals will also have a "WOW" moment and realize they, too have been played by these corporatist warmongers in both parties. The Rand-hating Neo Con Republicans keep telling themselves that Rand can't win because people like them won't come out to vote for him, which could be true, but they seriously discount the number of democrats/liberals who will also change and vote for the less corporatist, less Neo Con Republican candidate.

philipped
12-09-2014, 07:18 PM
The debate will become VERY interesting in this country if/when you see NeoCons like McCain, Kristol, Adelson, and some Wall Street Republicans jumping ship and supporting the Neo Con Corporatist Hillary in 2016 against Rand Paul. It's very well possible that enough good liberals will also have a "WOW" moment and realize they, too have been played by these corporatist warmongers in both parties. The Rand-hating Neo Con Republicans keep telling themselves that Rand can't win because people like them won't come out to vote for him, which could be true, but they seriously discount the number of democrats/liberals who will also change and vote for the less corporatist, less Neo Con Republican candidate.

When it comes to our age crowd specifically, the argument will be exponentially easier but they unfortunately still see the R label as something that is unfavorable. We gotta become the party for "free market stimulus" as we label ourselves as "21st century constitutional conservatives". Rand can bring a large amount of millennial crossover if in a scenario almost every state he happened to pop up in there was a similar liberty minded Republican candidate running statewide or county wide and was either front running in their primary or already won it.

Welcome to the forums also :-)

anaconda
12-09-2014, 08:13 PM
Yea they would rather have Hillary...

Hillary/Jeb might be a very formidable ticket and could be sold quite easily I think. Rumor has it McCain was on John Kerry's short list for VP in 2004, so it's not as nutty as it seems.

New York For Paul
12-09-2014, 08:15 PM
It is kind of hard to be a true front runner when you have never run for president. There will be many tests ahead. Now is not the time to get over confident.

acptulsa
12-09-2014, 08:20 PM
Dozens of the Republican Party’s leading presidential donors and fund-raisers have begun privately discussing how to clear the field for a single establishment candidate to carry the party’s banner in 2016, fearing that (bullshit excuse expunged)...

Well, now. Rand Paul is doing very well, indeed. They seem to be afraid to split their voters by running several lapdog--er, I mean more mainstream candidates. How can we talk, fool or shame them into running them all and splitting their vote?

anaconda
12-09-2014, 10:38 PM
Well, now. Rand Paul is doing very well, indeed. They seem to be afraid to split their voters by running several lapdog--er, I mean more mainstream candidates. How can we talk, fool or shame them into running them all and splitting their vote?

Many here hoped for the "split the mainstream candidate vote" theory here for 2008 and 2012 but it didn't matter much in the end. The idea that Ron Paul would score several state victories with 28% never materialized.