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Suzanimal
12-07-2014, 03:24 PM
Lots of photos at the link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6CI3rn8bIA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbWLZeic4Hs


Rubber bullets, tear gas in Berkeley as police disperse #EricGarner, #Ferguson rally

Protests against police brutality have turned violent in Berkeley, California, as officers are resorting to rubber bullets, flash bang grenades and tear gas in a tense standoff with demonstrators demanding justice.

The scene in this liberal college town remains chaotic Saturday night as reports of injured protesters at the hands of the police begin emerged. The protesters took to the streets to express their anger over a series of high-profile incidences involving the death of black Americans at the hands of white police officers - all of whom were cleared of any wrongdoing by the courts.

According to police, some of the protesters took to more violent methods of expression.

"A small portion of protesters have been violent," Jennifer Coats, a spokeswoman for the Berkeley Police Department, told CNN. "They started throwing rocks and other projectiles at our officers. Some officers have suffered minor injuries as a result."

Coats confirmed that one police officer suffered injuries as some of the protesters hurled objects at police positions.

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http://rt.com/usa/212219-berkeley-protest-clashes-teargas/


Apparently it was the Anarchists causing trouble.:rolleyes:



Tear Gas, Windows Broken, Clashes With Police As Anarchists Hijack Peaceful Protest March Through Berkeley

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This was the fourth night of protests this week. Friday night, protesters blocked Interstate 880 in Oakland, disrupted BART service transit routes in San Francisco’s Castro District.
Similarly, those protests started out peaceful, but ended with several arrests after vandals and self-described anarchists began defacing property in downtown Oakland, later that night.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/06/tear-gas-thrown-windows-broken-clashes-with-police-as-protesters-march-through-berkeley/

New York For Paul
12-07-2014, 03:32 PM
I wonder if the protesters will march into Freedom Tower?

twomp
12-07-2014, 03:38 PM
America 2014 -- Land of the free.

http://rt.com/files/news/33/cf/b0/00/12.jpg

twomp
12-07-2014, 03:42 PM
Oakland Police Infiltrating Protests?

https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2014/12/05/800_screen_shot_2014-12-04_at_2.35.18_pm.jpg

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/12/05/18765059.php

ChristianAnarchist
12-07-2014, 05:00 PM
Oakland Police Infiltrating Protests?

https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2014/12/05/800_screen_shot_2014-12-04_at_2.35.18_pm.jpg

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/12/05/18765059.php

I noticed how during the protest these two were walking the edge of the group. I'm sure as "officers" they were making sure they had a quick escape route to the side in case something "happened". Who knows, one of these guys might just choose to fire a shot or two to get things "hot"...

69360
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
I'm pissed at the cops so lets go break some business owners windows and steal his product. Yeah that'll teach those cops amiright?

enhanced_deficit
12-07-2014, 06:19 PM
Good luck to these freedom fighters.. I'll tune in when headline hash tags read like this:

#EricGarner, #Ferguson, #MiriamCarey Rally

Brian4Liberty
12-07-2014, 07:49 PM
Apparently it was the Anarchists causing trouble.:rolleyes:

It's always the Black Bloc folks that go to Oakland and Berkeley.


I'm pissed at the cops so lets go break some business owners windows and steal his product. Yeah that'll teach those cops amiright?

Move along, nothing to see here. White suburban kids vandalizing and looting doesn't fit the agenda.

Of course a simple headline that says "riots in Oakland" might lead someone to erroneous assumptions. That can be useful to the mainstream media.

PaulConventionWV
12-07-2014, 07:52 PM
I'm pissed at the cops so lets go break some business owners windows and steal his product. Yeah that'll teach those cops amiright?

What are you talking about? Unless I'm mistaken, none of that stuff happened in the Berkeley rally.

PaulConventionWV
12-07-2014, 07:53 PM
Good luck to these freedom fighters.. I'll tune in when headline hash tags read like this:

#EricGarner, #Ferguson, #MiriamCarey Rally

You got 2 out of 3. What's the special significance of Miriam Carey to you?

Brian4Liberty
12-07-2014, 10:26 PM
What are you talking about? Unless I'm mistaken, none of that stuff happened in the Berkeley rally.

You are mistaken.

You must not have clicked on that final link in the OP, but that story had some details about it.

Here's more from the OP:


The skirmish with police began near Addison and Shattuck at about 6:30 p.m. as police and masked protesters faced off. The protesters broke windows along University Ave. near Martin Luther King Blvd., smashed bottles and spray painted graffiti. Others took hammers and smashed ATM machines, and overturned garbage dumpsters.

KCBS reporter Mark Seelig described it as a “mob scene.” He said employees at Trader Joes shut themselves inside the store in an effort to escape the violence.
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Once the violence broke out, the group splintered, and non-violent marchers retreated. Observing the damage, one protester told KCBS’s Seelig, “this is not what I signed up for.”

Police shut down University Avenue, the I-80 University off-ramp, and the downtown Berkeley and North Berkeley BART stations.
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Some businesses began boarding up their windows earlier Saturday. Vandals shattered the windows at Radio Shack, Trader Joes, Wells Fargo, a wine shop and other unlucky businesses along their path.
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Similarly, those protests started out peaceful, but ended with several arrests after vandals and self-described anarchists began defacing property in downtown Oakland, later that night.
...
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/06/tear-gas-thrown-windows-broken-clashes-with-police-as-protesters-march-through-berkeley/


As I said in my post above, white suburban anarchists vandalizing and looting will not be widely reported by the mainstream media. It doesn't fit the agenda. Your confusion about the actual events is evidence of that.

twomp
12-07-2014, 10:36 PM
You are mistaken.

You must not have clicked on that final link in the OP, but that story had some details about it.

Here's more from the OP:



As I said in my post above, white suburban anarchists vandalizing and looting will not be widely reported by the mainstream media. It doesn't fit the agenda. Your confusion about the actual events is evidence of that.

I agree, if it were black folks doing the vandalizing, we would see non-stop coverage of it on the MSM. Ferguson style.

CPUd
12-08-2014, 12:30 AM
I think she meant to say 'protests':



"The riots have been so beautiful, so nicely done," Gwen Carr said at her church on Staten Island, according to CNN affiliate NY1. "And peace is the message. We don't want any violence but keep on moving on."

presence
12-08-2014, 10:53 AM
When do we get to call this the North American Spring?


Ash-sha`b yurid isqat an-nizam

JK/SEA
12-08-2014, 10:58 AM
i blame the Prosecutors, the Sheriff's, local politicians and THE STASI for the riots.

ZENemy
12-08-2014, 11:07 AM
Lets rock.

JK/SEA
12-08-2014, 11:13 AM
Lets rock.

for those about to, i salute you.

Brian4Liberty
12-08-2014, 09:28 PM
Here's a video of one of the brave black bloc vandals/looters hitting an old leftist in the head with a hammer...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2L1zcRwPSg

anaconda
12-08-2014, 09:36 PM
Berkeley, 50 years plus one day ago (Dec. 7th, 1964):

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/10/05/mario_savio_wide-38bc8712e8ad13dc66b97a9ee06adee2c1581286-s1100-c15.jpg

enhanced_deficit
12-08-2014, 09:41 PM
You got 2 out of 3. What's the special significance of Miriam Carey to you?

IMO, understanding/condoning/quietly tolerating Police Stating of Miriam Carey while protesting the other two cases represents a misunderstanding of the problem at a minimum.. or at worse a double standard. When informed people are engaged, it is equivalent of protesting against gungangstas while tacitly supporting dronegangstas of the world.

Windows Up, Don't Shoot (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464067-Windows-Up-Don-t-Shoot&)


Lawmakers make 'hands up' gesture on House floor

By Lucy McCalmont (http://www.politico.com/reporters/LucyMcCalmont.html)
12/2/14 7:15 AM EST


http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/lawmakers-ferguson-hands-up-113254.html
(http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/lawmakers-ferguson-hands-up-113254.html#ixzz3KlIgnjKS)

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http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2030009.1417530495%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/congress-members-hands.jpg



Entire House Of Reps Gives Standing Ovation To Cops After Killing Unarmed Mother (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?429504-Entire-House-Of-Reps-Gives-Standing-Ovation-To-Cops-After-Killing-Unarmed-Mother&)


http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BUTTON.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ronpaulforums.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3F429480-An-apology-to-family-of-Miriam-Carey-from-Congress-amp-CNN-CNBC-execs-is-in-order&ei=BPV9VOqnNMGJgwT_44PIDQ&bvm=bv.80642063,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNGs58_AOGvbtVpifKup_Af3gp3nWg&ust=1417627262532837)


Lawyer representing family of Miriam Carey arrested (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430954-Lawyer-representing-family-of-Miriam-Carey-arrested&)

Mother killed by Capitol Police was shot in back of head (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?448895-UPDATE-Mother-killed-by-Capitol-Police-was-shot-in-back-of-head&)

Brian4Liberty
12-08-2014, 09:44 PM
Here's a video of one of the brave black bloc vandals/looters hitting an old leftist in the head with a hammer...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2L1zcRwPSg

The true headline:

"Young white anarcho-Marxists attack old white Marxists. Mainstream media says it's about race."

UWDude
12-09-2014, 12:06 AM
I love how they say, "people were being violent, so police responded with tear gas"

I have been in plenty of peaceful marches, police still used tear gas. They'll use tear gas for anything, violent or non-violent, believe me.

Brian4Liberty
12-09-2014, 02:33 PM
Congratulations vandals, looters, assaulters and freeway blockers. You have turned the tide, and the general public now fully sympathizes with the Police...


6:20 a.m. – The California Highway Patrol arrested more than 150 people Monday night who were blocking traffic on I-80 near Powell St.

After about 1,000 to 1,500 protesters marched peacefully down University Ave., a large contingent tried to get onto the freeway but were blocked by police, according to CHP. Around 8 p.m., protesters tore down some fencing along the freeway and got into the eastbound lanes, but CHP was able to remove them by 8:08 p.m., according to a CHP Nixle alert. Around 8:30 p.m, a large group of protesters destroyed fencing along the south perimeter of the road in Aquatic Park and “flooded into the lanes of traffic,” according to CHP. They stopped traffic in both directions for more than an hour and walked west in the eastbound lanes. Many stranded drivers just turned off their cars and sat there. Until this point the protest had been largely peaceful. Traffic was backed up for miles on I-80, I-580 and Highway 24. (There was one unconfirmed report that a woman in labor was stuck in traffic, but her car was allowed to leave the freeway.)

When CHP officers tried to get the protesters off the freeway, some protesters started to throw rocks and other objects, according to CHP. Police cleared the freeway around 9:58 p.m. They arrested around 150 people and took them to Santa Rita Jail in Dublin where they are facing various charges, including resisting arrest.

Protesters also managed to block an Amtrak train by lying down in the railroad tracks near Second and Addison.

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2014/12/08/third-night-of-protests-against-police-killing-of-blacks-begins-in-berkeley/

twomp
12-09-2014, 02:38 PM
Congratulations vandals, looters, assaulters and freeway blockers. You have turned the tide, and the general public now fully sympathizes with the Police...

It's always the same case. This is how the media gets people to worship the cops. You highlight and amplify the negative and say nothing about the positives. Watch FOX news as they are the pros at this tactic.

Brian4Liberty
12-09-2014, 03:09 PM
It's always the same case. This is how the media gets people to worship the cops. You highlight and amplify the negative and say nothing about the positives. Watch FOX news as they are the pros at this tactic.

Yeah, the media can highlight violence, vandalism and looting, where without the media, only the witnesses and people effected would know.

But blocking freeways in an urban area is a good way to directly effect a larger percentage of the population, and make them angry at the protesters, and back Police actions. People are calling for a stronger Police response now.

UWDude
12-10-2014, 01:05 AM
Yeah, the media can highlight violence, vandalism and looting, where without the media, only the witnesses and people effected would know.

But blocking freeways in an urban area is a good way to directly effect a larger percentage of the population, and make them angry at the protesters, and back Police actions. People are calling for a stronger Police response now.

Let me guess, they should gather on private property, out of the way of disturbing anybody, and protest there, amirite?

enhanced_deficit
12-10-2014, 01:45 PM
i blame the Prosecutors, the Sheriff's, local politicians and THE STASI for the riots.

Interesting.

Brian4Liberty
12-10-2014, 03:17 PM
Let me guess, they should gather on private property, out of the way of disturbing anybody, and protest there, amirite?

It depends. What is the objective? Some actions are potentially productive, some are ineffective, some are counter-productive.

IMHO, here's how it breaks down:

- Potentially productive: Attending and giving input at city councils meetings, county meetings or State meetings. Speaking to individual representatives. Picketing at government buildings. Boycotts. Media activism. Running for office. Voting for the right candidate.
- Ineffective: Big rallies and street marches.
- Counter-productive: Violence, looting, blocking freeways and major roadways.

Why the counter-productive items? "Never call the Police" has more than one aspect to it. First and foremost is that they may show up and shoot or instigate some other violence. But just as important is that calling the Police creates demand for more Police, more laws and more government. Taking actions that require the Police to come out is the same as calling them. The expected result is overtime, more hiring, expanded budgets and more laws being passed. More government. Completely counter-productive if the goal is less government.

Now if the goal is to turn the US into Syria, then violent actions will certainly help lead to that end.

UWDude
12-17-2014, 03:06 AM
- Potentially productive: Attending and giving input at city councils meetings, county meetings or State meetings. Speaking to individual representatives. Picketing at government buildings. Boycotts. Media activism. Running for office. Voting for the right candidate.


LoL

What country you living in?