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thoughtomator
12-06-2014, 12:30 AM
just happened

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4I_nUaCQAAUBf0.jpg

https://twitter.com/jordanwhiteLA/status/541064857341026304

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204546404974215&fref=nf

PRB
12-06-2014, 12:45 AM
This HAS to be staged, it's way too convenient that twitter hasn't even finished ranting about NYC, LA already playing copycat. SOMEBODY is desperate to start a police war or race war. PLEASE tell me this guy isn't black.

thoughtomator
12-06-2014, 12:47 AM
Guy is white.

Apparently this happened right in front of a peaceful protest. Warning to others, perhaps? Intimidation? The race pimps are aghast that he's not black.

Also, the cops handcuffed the corpse after putting 10 rounds in his head.

Natural Citizen
12-06-2014, 12:48 AM
Hm. Uncanny irony seeing the feller laying dead there on stars and stripes.

PRB
12-06-2014, 12:50 AM
Guy is white.

Apparently this happened right in front of a peaceful protest. Warning to others, perhaps? Intimidation? The race pimps are aghast that he's not black.

Also, the cops handcuffed the corpse after putting 10 rounds in his head.

10 in the head???? WHAT THE F---..............

Natural Citizen
12-06-2014, 12:51 AM
Man dies after being shot by police in Hollywood, witnesses say he was unarmed (http://rt.com/usa/212011-hollywood-man-killed-police/)





http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/33/c2/b0/00/police.si.jpg
Screenshot from Facebook video by Jordan White

A man who police say was carrying a knife has died after being shot by police in Hollywood, Los Angeles. He was taken to hospital but did not recover from his injuries. A witness who took a video of the incident on his camera says the man was unarmed.

Police say they were responding to a report of an assault with a deadly weapon on Friday night. On arrival they were met with an “armed man,” CBS Los Angeles reported. According to Detective Meghan Aguilar, the man was carrying a knife, but this is yet to be officially confirmed.

“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,” ABC News reported Aguilar as saying.
A witness speaking to Eyewitness News that she heard officers with guns drawn yelling, "He's still got a knife."

The suspect was critically injured and taken to hospital but later died from his injuries, a Los Angeles Police Depar
tment spokesman said.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWraWUqcis

But Jordan White, who witnessed the incident and even shot a short video following the shooting, said on Twitter that the man was not armed. Police shot him at least ten times, White added on Facebook.

“Police just shot a man in the head 10 times for no reason right in front of me,” he said.

presence
12-06-2014, 12:52 AM
Man Shot by LAPD Officers at Hollywood and Highland Has Died (http://ktla.com/2014/12/05/armed-man-shot-by-officers-near-hollywood-and-highland-lapd/)

KTLA-2 hours ago
A man was shot and killed by police at the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and Highland Avenue on Friday night after allegedly approaching ...

Hollywood and Highland Shooting: Police Kill Suspect Who Was ... (http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-and-highland-shooting-suspect-shot-by-police-rushed-to-hospital/)
TheWrap-39 minutes ago
Police shoot, kill assault suspect in Hollywood tourist area (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hollywood-police-shooting-20141205-story.html)
Highly Cited-Los Angeles Times-30 minutes ago
Cops gun down 'armed' man in front of scores of tourists on a ... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2863148/Moment-Los-Angeles-cops-fired-man-leaving-critical-condition-famous-Hollywood-Highland-intersection.html)
In-Depth-Daily Mail-1 hour ago
Police Shoot Man In Front Of Tourists On Busy Hollywood Street ... (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/a-man-was-shot-friday-night-in-the-heart-of-hollywood)
Highly Cited-BuzzFeed News-2 hours ago



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JD6qmIIAEDHiX.jpg:large



“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,” Aguilar said.

there's that curious grammar again...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zFzT91fqO6Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akE9ju74zk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpHAdckr2U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWraWUqcis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_DyW8rw9us

They just stand there for a minute afterwards hovering over a dead body like its going to jump up at them.

PRB
12-06-2014, 12:54 AM
a street full of cameras and lights, somebody saw what happened!

Natural Citizen
12-06-2014, 12:55 AM
a street full of cameras and lights, somebody saw what happened!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GuWouH2RMY

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-06-2014, 01:01 AM
“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,” ABC News reported Aguilar as saying.

Oh look at that, another pig-involved oinking of a combobulated sentence with no subject and no active verb occurred.

presence
12-06-2014, 01:04 AM
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presence
12-06-2014, 01:15 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

http://i.imgur.com/W6Qi7hr.png

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 01:25 AM
“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,”

The curious grammar of police shootings.

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 01:25 AM
“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,”

The curious grammar of police shootings.

DP714
12-06-2014, 01:26 AM
An officer-involved shooting... I really do wonder if this is a deliberate choice of words (every single time), or is it something that just comes naturally to them? It's similar to what I saw on FB recently: Someone posted an ultrasound picture of her unborn child and it was captioned "just a picture of the mass of cells in my womb." No, it was not meant as a joke.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 01:26 AM
Some...whatever. some...thing. Some thing or some one is "stepping it up." The frog-pot is being turned up.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 01:27 AM
this stuff happens all the time, now all the sudden people are paying attention?

jmdrake
12-06-2014, 01:30 AM
10 in the head???? WHAT THE F---..............

Yeah. It's surprising they were that accurate. :(

PRB
12-06-2014, 01:31 AM
The curious grammar of police shootings.

what are non-OIS called? COCS? civilian on civilian shooting?

PRB
12-06-2014, 01:31 AM
this stuff happens all the time, now all the sudden people are paying attention?

if I didn't see it in the media it didn't happen.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 01:32 AM
Hm. Uncanny irony seeing the feller laying dead there on stars and stripes.

I'm still in awe at the imagery with the stars and stripes. It's perfect. It's like God has His hand on the image in order to send America a warning. 'Here are your stars and stripes, and such is your claim to trust in God.' And Hollywood. A whole stinkin lot of people have been to Hollywood. People might identify with this. I think big things are in motion.

PRB
12-06-2014, 01:32 AM
An officer-involved shooting... I really do wonder if this is a deliberate choice of words (every single time), or is it something that just comes naturally to them? It's similar to what I saw on FB recently: Someone posted an ultrasound picture of her unborn child and it was captioned "just a picture of the mass of cells in my womb." No, it was not meant as a joke.

cells in your womb is not inaccurate or untrue, just incredibly vague and pointless.

PRB
12-06-2014, 01:34 AM
I'm still in awe at the imagery with the stars and stripes. It's perfect. It's like God has His hand on the image in order to send America a warning. 'Here are your stars and stripes, and such is your claim to trust in God.' And Hollywood. A whole stinkin lot of people have been to Hollywood. People might identify with this. I think big things are in motion.

http://i.imgur.com/86zRJR4.jpg

PRB
12-06-2014, 01:36 AM
I'm sure the fact that a man was murdered by police on Hollywood STARwalk (or policestate EMPIRE) on the 81st anniversary of the end of prohibition was just coincidence.

http://time.com/3605609/a-toast-to-the-end-of-prohibition/

CPUd
12-06-2014, 01:40 AM
I'm sure the fact that a man was murdered by police on Hollywood STARwalk (or policestate EMPIRE) on the 81st anniversary of the end of prohibition was just coincidence.

http://time.com/3605609/a-toast-to-the-end-of-prohibition/

this is definitely a false flag they are doing it to take away our alcohol

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 01:41 AM
American police have a more liberal ROE than did our Marines in Fallujah.

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 01:42 AM
Land of the Free.



just happened

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4I_nUaCQAAUBf0.jpg

https://twitter.com/jordanwhiteLA/status/541064857341026304

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204546404974215&fref=nf

presence
12-06-2014, 01:54 AM
what are non-OIS called? COCS? civilian on civilian shooting?

There are verbs involved.


"Gunman SHOT"

presence
12-06-2014, 01:54 AM
Land of the Free.

Home of dead mundane on the pavement.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 01:55 AM
http://i.imgur.com/86zRJR4.jpg

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/freebrave2.jpg

presence
12-06-2014, 02:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JCDFHCAAAeksl.jpg:large

juleswin
12-06-2014, 02:31 AM
Just in, Charles Barkley reviewed the shooting and thinks this is not a homicide. Excessive force? maybe but there was no intention to kill the man. He is Charles Barkley for god's sake.

But seriously, do cops still carry tasers?

presence
12-06-2014, 02:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

A Son of Liberty
12-06-2014, 04:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

Those cops are fucking cowards.

I cannot comprehend the utter disregard for human life required to self-justify murdering someone for carrying THAT. I don't care if the guy was lunging at them what that - a freaking Swiss Army knife - in his hand. Were they actual men, they would have laughed at him and disarmed him. Supposedly, these "public servants" are given basic hand-to-hand training. Or maybe they're just skipping that half-day of training and instructing the new recruits to just shoot anyone who doesn't do exactly as you say.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 05:13 AM
Those cops are fucking cowards.

I cannot comprehend the utter disregard for human life required to self-justify murdering someone for carrying THAT. I don't care if the guy was lunging at them what that - a freaking Swiss Army knife - in his hand. Were they actual men, they would have laughed at him and disarmed him. Supposedly, these "public servants" are given basic hand-to-hand training. Or maybe they're just skipping that half-day of training and instructing the new recruits to just shoot anyone who doesn't do exactly as you say.

There is something fundamentally not right about the position and the disposition of that knife.

It's half open. Who half-opens a Swiss Army Knife? It's too pat, like they 'shot him in the process of opening the knife' as if that would ever happen, and then it's 10 foot behind him? I dunno but I know I don't like it. Something doesn't add right. Something about the knife being half open really bothers me and I can't put my finger on it. Anything else at this point is speculation. But you know what I said a couple weeks ago, the first white person to incite people to riot was gonna be a thug too. (BSM thing) So who knows. All I know is something doesn't add up about the knife, and this half-open thing is most of it.

jmdrake
12-06-2014, 06:46 AM
Those cops are fucking cowards.

I cannot comprehend the utter disregard for human life required to self-justify murdering someone for carrying THAT. I don't care if the guy was lunging at them what that - a freaking Swiss Army knife - in his hand. Were they actual men, they would have laughed at him and disarmed him. Supposedly, these "public servants" are given basic hand-to-hand training. Or maybe they're just skipping that half-day of training and instructing the new recruits to just shoot anyone who doesn't do exactly as you say.

But....but...but....it's got a corkscrew on it! And it says "army" in the name. It's an assault knife!

donnay
12-06-2014, 07:28 AM
What I fine disturbing is the cops seem to be leaving the dead bodies for long period of time, uncovered, for everyone to see. It seems almost like a trophy, so to speak. A bloodsport badge of honor (pun intended). Use to be, they carried blankets in their car and they would cover the dead body at the crime scene before the coroner showed up. SMDH.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 07:31 AM
In my lifetime I have found it necessary to disarm two individuals of their knives. Without the use of a baton, taser or...gun. I even got fired from one job in doing so. SMDH.

ChristianAnarchist
12-06-2014, 07:37 AM
No wonder they had to shoot him 10 times... He was armed with one of those "assault pocket knives". It even had the advanced corkscrew launching system attached to the pearl (simulated) hand-grips...

One less terrorist to worry about...


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http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

tod evans
12-06-2014, 07:42 AM
???????

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PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 07:58 AM
Guy is white.

Apparently this happened right in front of a peaceful protest. Warning to others, perhaps? Intimidation? The race pimps are aghast that he's not black.

Also, the cops handcuffed the corpse after putting 10 rounds in his head.

Yep, they do that. It sickens me and defies all logic.

Schifference
12-06-2014, 08:24 AM
Why would ordinary people get arrested or go to jail for beating or shooting another person?

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 08:37 AM
Just in, Charles Barkley reviewed the shooting and thinks this is not a homicide. Excessive force? maybe but there was no intention to kill the man. He is Charles Barkley for god's sake.

But seriously, do cops still carry tasers?

Yep, they kill people with those, too.

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 08:42 AM
What I fine disturbing is the cops seem to be leaving the dead bodies for long period of time, uncovered, for everyone to see. It seems almost like a trophy, so to speak. A bloodsport badge of honor (pun intended). Use to be, they carried blankets in their car and they would cover the dead body at the crime scene before the coroner showed up. SMDH.

No, you can't do that! You really have to be careful with someone you've shot in the head ten times because they might come back as a zombie and infect you. Just think, this dead body could start the zombie apocalypse. Do you really want to take that risk?

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-06-2014, 08:45 AM
What I fine disturbing is the cops seem to be leaving the dead bodies for long period of time, uncovered, for everyone to see. It seems almost like a trophy, so to speak. A bloodsport badge of honor (pun intended).

I've been noticing this too. This is clearly a new "Heads-on-Pikes" terror tactic that they've added to their arsenal.
Instead of mounting their victims' heads on sticks and displaying them in the town square like their U.S. taxpayer funded ISIS allies, they do this.
This is the first time where I've seen video of the ritual where they all hop around the bullet riddled corpse for several minutes pointing their guns.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 08:48 AM
What I fine disturbing is the cops seem to be leaving the dead bodies for long period of time, uncovered, for everyone to see. It seems almost like a trophy, so to speak. A bloodsport badge of honor (pun intended). Use to be, they carried blankets in their car and they would cover the dead body at the crime scene before the coroner showed up. SMDH.

Forensics. Investigators complain that using a sheet or blanket stands a chance to contaminate the scene. Fibers caught in the blanket transferred to the deceased, etc. However, I can buy opaque plastic sheeting sealed in it's own wrap for pennies. Seems it should be standard issue.

otherone
12-06-2014, 09:01 AM
“When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,” Aguilar said.



there's that curious grammar again...


Maybe guns REALLY do kill people, cuz it sure doesn't read like those cops did...

tod evans
12-06-2014, 09:03 AM
Maybe guns REALLY do kill people, cuz it sure doesn't read like those cops did...

Kop guns are magical...

Just like kops are free from consequence of their actions...

Schifference
12-06-2014, 09:07 AM
Maybe guns REALLY do kill people, cuz it sure doesn't read like those cops did...
I think it is the bullet that does the damage.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 09:25 AM
I think it is the bullet that does the damage.

The suspect was struck by the projectile from a round that had been in the service weapon of an Officer at the time of the aforementioned injury.

ETA: Sorry, better....

The suspect was struck repeatedly in the cranial region by projectiles from rounds that had been in service weapons assigned to Officers who were on duty during the time in which the injuries occurred.

tod evans
12-06-2014, 09:31 AM
The suspect was struck by the projectile from a round that had been in the service weapon of an Officer at the time of the aforementioned injury. issued by the XYZ police department to one of its heroic officers.

FIFY...


[edit]

Well damn it Gunny ya' done went and fixed it before I finished typin'...:o

moostraks
12-06-2014, 09:31 AM
Forensics. Investigators complain that using a sheet or blanket stands a chance to contaminate the scene. Fibers caught in the blanket transferred to the deceased, etc. However, I can buy opaque plastic sheeting sealed in it's own wrap for pennies. Seems it should be standard issue.

Even using that theory from investigators, of what need is fiber forensics in an "officer involved shooting"? And cannot those fibers be excluded if it were to show up just as other police contamination is excluded? Regardless, as you have said plastic sheeting should sufficiently solve the problem. And yet we have these "Heads-on-Pikes" responses which serves their greater need for control through fear with few questioning the fairly recent turn of events in this respect. It is extremely disturbing and that is what they want to linger in the subconscious.

ghengis86
12-06-2014, 09:39 AM
The suspect was struck by the projectile from a round that had been in the service weapon of an Officer at the time of the aforementioned injury.

ETA: Sorry, better....

The suspect was struck repeatedly in the cranial region by projectiles from rounds that had been in service weapons assigned to Officers who were on duty during the time in which the injuries occurred.

The suspects cranium had come into repeated contact with projectiles which had previously been stored in a magazine that belonged to the department during a routine wellness interdiction.

tod evans
12-06-2014, 09:39 AM
It is extremely disturbing and that is what they want to linger in the subconscious.

Whose subconscious is the question?

The "brave officers" are taught to relish vanquishing those who challenge their authority so this type of behavior is akin to the trophies some folks collect...

Now then, the lesser beings that the heros are waging their war upon must be imprinted too, only in their instance as to what fate will surely befall them should they question their betters authority...

JK/SEA
12-06-2014, 09:48 AM
evil's on the march.

on your knees, or on your feet.

Schifference
12-06-2014, 10:11 AM
I fear for my grandson's life.

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p730/wdr61/P__A9EB_zps31195b6a.jpg (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/wdr61/media/P__A9EB_zps31195b6a.jpg.html)

moostraks
12-06-2014, 10:13 AM
Whose subconscious is the question?

The "brave officers" are taught to relish vanquishing those who challenge their authority so this type of behavior is akin to the trophies some folks collect...

Now then, the lesser beings that the heros are waging their war upon must be imprinted too, only in their instance as to what fate will surely befall them should they question their betters authority...

Indeed, my comment was referencing the latter point of yours here.

presence
12-06-2014, 10:13 AM
24 Hours Earlier

at Hollywood and Highland

there was a "Die In" protest:

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limequat
12-06-2014, 10:26 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CZMpr9x.jpg

limequat
12-06-2014, 10:27 AM
OK..

OIS must be "officer involved shooting"

ADW = "Assault with Deadly Weapon".

Fucking, really?

PRB
12-06-2014, 11:49 AM
http://glenbradley.net/imghost/freebrave2.jpg

how convenient that free and brave are on the top and bottom parts of the image...*SMH*

TheTexan
12-06-2014, 11:59 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

http://i.imgur.com/W6Qi7hr.png

Wow, that suspect must have still been alive after he was shot 10 times in the head, because that knife wasnt there yet when this picture was taken.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JD6qmIIAEDHiX.jpg:large

PRB
12-06-2014, 12:10 PM
Wow, that suspect must have still been alive after he was shot 10 times in the head, because that knife wasnt there yet when this picture was taken.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JD6qmIIAEDHiX.jpg:large

wasn't there? or just wasn't labeled?

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-06-2014, 12:45 PM
Forensics...

Are you serious? If an ambulance or doctor had approached their kill, they would have double-tapped them like a Pakistani father pulling his child out of U.S. bomb rubble.

No, this is a newly designed ritual. I'm surprised they all weren't howling like hyenas while they were hopping around the splattered remains like chimpanzees.

TheTexan
12-06-2014, 01:01 PM
wasn't there? or just wasn't labeled?

It's not there. Yet. :)

I suppose it's a reasonable explanation though that the dead man has the knife in his hands currently and the cops kicked it out of his hands so he wouldn't stab them with it and that's how the knife arrived at the place in the picture where it's labelled.

That makes sense I think. That's probably what happened.

TheTexan
12-06-2014, 01:04 PM
But seriously, do cops still carry tasers?

From what I can tell, the current police "best practice" is to only use tasers on people that are handcuffed already.

ghengis86
12-06-2014, 01:08 PM
wasn't there? or just wasn't labeled?

Hard to tell. When its tagged "1" with the card, the knife is down and to the left of the white beverage lid. In the photo prior to evidence tag, you can see the white beverage lid, but its really hard to tell if anything is down and to the left. There appears to be something darker in that location. Could be the knife; could be a shadow. Can't tell due to resolution.

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 01:14 PM
Are you serious? If an ambulance or doctor had approached their kill, they would have double-tapped them like a Pakistani father pulling his child out of U.S. bomb rubble.

No, this is a newly designed ritual. I'm surprised they all weren't howling like hyenas while they were hopping around the splattered remains like chimpanzees.

What ritual is that, exactly? I'm not sure if I follow.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-06-2014, 01:18 PM
What ritual is that, exactly? I'm not sure if I follow.

Leaving dead bodies in the middle of the street for hours for the purpose of taunting the locals a la Heads-on-Pikes.

Tyreez
12-06-2014, 02:14 PM
They say LA's the gang capital of America I say LAPD are the biggest gang. RIP Rodney King. RIP Biggie Smalls.

A Son of Liberty
12-06-2014, 02:15 PM
Rodney King is dead?

Tyreez
12-06-2014, 02:17 PM
Rodney King is dead?
Yeah man.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/17/us/obit-rodney-king/

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 02:18 PM
Leaving dead bodies in the middle of the street for hours for the purpose of taunting the locals a la Heads-on-Pikes.

Is that really what they were doing?

limequat
12-06-2014, 02:22 PM
Witness says his hands were in his pockets when they opened fire.

“I don’t know what he had but I can say that when they told him to get down and comply, he did not at all. He had his hands outside of his pockets. When they ran up on him, he went inside of his pockets and stuck both hands inside of his pockets,”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/06/3600368/los-angeles-police-shooting-walk-of-fame/

sparebulb
12-06-2014, 02:27 PM
A man who police say was carrying a knife has died after being shot by police in Hollywood, Los Angeles. He was taken to hospital but did not recover from his injuries.

I'm sure that the police did everything they could do to provide medical assistance until the paramedics arrived.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4I_nUaCQAAUBf0.jpg

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-06-2014, 02:27 PM
Is that really what they were doing?

Is that really what they do when a mundane-involved shooting of an officer "occurs?"

PRB
12-06-2014, 02:34 PM
They say LA's the gang capital of America I say LAPD are the biggest gang. RIP Rodney King. RIP Biggie Smalls.

Yep, Rodney King and Biggie Smalls were both angels who did nothing wrong and were murdered by LAPD in cold blood.

Tyreez
12-06-2014, 02:40 PM
Yep, Rodney King and Biggie Smalls were both angels who did nothing wrong and were murdered by LAPD in cold blood.
Biggie was Brooklyn's angel. Murdered by LAPD, cold blood shit:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374411/FBI-releases-secret-reports-hip-hops-Notorious-B-I-G-s-murder-case.html

King survived his encounter. Barely.

PRB
12-06-2014, 03:33 PM
Biggie was Brooklyn's angel. Murdered by LAPD, cold blood shit:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374411/FBI-releases-secret-reports-hip-hops-Notorious-B-I-G-s-murder-case.html

King survived his encounter. Barely.

Being award $3.8M and lived 20 years later is "barely survived"?

Was Biggie's killer a police officer at the time? Was he killed by order of state or some other private citizen's agenda?

Biggie's an angel? Well who isn't then?

Dr.3D
12-06-2014, 03:34 PM
Looks like they got the memo to start killing more white folks so it doesn't look like the police are being so racist.

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 03:40 PM
Being award $3.8M and lived 20 years later is "barely survived"?

Was Biggie's killer a police officer at the time? Was he killed by order of state or some other private citizen's agenda?

Biggie's an angel? Well who isn't then?

WTF are you talking about? Of course it's "barely." He came within an inch of his life, the number of years he lived after that notwithstanding. How dense are you? The amount of money he got doesn't matter one iota when determining how close he came to dying.

Why do people have to be angels not to be shot by the police? What planet do we live on? I can't believe I'm seeing this dumbass shit being typed.

PRB
12-06-2014, 03:41 PM
Looks like they got the memo to start killing more white folks so it doesn't look like the police are being so racist.

yeah, let's start the war about people vs cops, we don't want a race war.

PRB
12-06-2014, 03:43 PM
WTF are you talking about? Of course it's "barely." He came within an inch of his life, the number of years he lived after that notwithstanding. How dense are you?


I know a lot of people who will gladly take his money and 20 years in exchange for whatever beating he got, need I mention he wasn't beaten for being black?



Why do people have to be angels not to be shot by the police?


They don't. But according to this other guy, one of them was, I had to get him to say it.



What planet do we live on? I can't believe I'm hearing this dumbass shit.

The dumbass shit is saying being awarded $3.8M and living 20 years is barely surviving, and that Biggie is an angel.

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 03:49 PM
I know a lot of people who will gladly take his money and 20 years in exchange for whatever beating he got, need I mention he wasn't beaten for being black?

Does that justify what the police did?


They don't. But according to this other guy, one of them was, I had to get him to say it.

Why does it matter? Why are you trying to get him to say it? What difference does it make whether he was an angel or not? See, when you say "They don't have to be angels" and then try to get someone else to say that he was, you kind of create the impression that it really does matter how much of an angel they are.


The dumbass shit is saying being awarded $3.8M and living 20 years is barely surviving, and that Biggie is an angel.

Nobody said he "barely survived" in his day-to-day life. I mean and he meant that he barely survived his ENCOUNTER. He came very close to dying at that specific time. You have to be autistic to take that out of context like you did.

Also, it doesn't matter who Biggie Smalls was. It doesn't matter one bit.

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 03:52 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.

JK/SEA
12-06-2014, 03:54 PM
i'm seeing a target rich rep burn scenario here...

stay calm...this won't hurt. Do not resist. Keep your keyboard where i can see it. Stop resisting you muthacrapping little shit stain...

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 03:54 PM
But seriously, do cops still carry tasers?

Of course they do.

Under the Circular Force Continuum that most cops operate under these days, they are under no obligation to use them.

PRB
12-06-2014, 03:55 PM
Does that justify what the police did?


Nothing justifies anything a policeman did. I just don't call it murder.



Why does it matter? Why are you trying to get him to say it? What difference does it make whether he was an angel or not? See, when you say "They don't have to be angels" and then try to get someone else to say that he was, you kind of create the impression that it really does matter how much of an angel they are.


It matters to me if somebody's dumb enough to say it. It doens't matter to me if a person killed by a policeman was actually trying to kill a policeman.



Nobody said he "barely survived" in his day-to-day life. I mean and he meant that he barely survived his ENCOUNTER. He came very close to dying at that specific time. You have to be autistic to take that out of context like you did.


Maybe I am, thanks to my vaccines. I'll take some barely survived encounters if I can get $3M and live another 20 years.



Also, it doesn't matter who Biggie Smalls was. It doesn't matter one bit.

It's fun to hear a guy say he's an angel though.

JK/SEA
12-06-2014, 03:56 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.

won't be long now..

'man 'pretending' to have a knife shot 120 times in the head. No indictment.... Justified'...

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 03:57 PM
What I fine disturbing is the cops seem to be leaving the dead bodies for long period of time, uncovered, for everyone to see. It seems almost like a trophy, so to speak. A bloodsport badge of honor (pun intended). Use to be, they carried blankets in their car and they would cover the dead body at the crime scene before the coroner showed up. SMDH.

Letting you know exactly who the boss is on this here plantation.

I would not be surprised to see public executions and heads-on-pikes before too much longer.

PRB
12-06-2014, 03:58 PM
won't be long now..

'man 'pretending' to have a knife shot 120 times in the head. No indictment.... Justified'...

that almost happened on that movie "Phone Booth"

A Son of Liberty
12-06-2014, 03:59 PM
Being award $3.8M and lived 20 years later is "barely survived"?

You realize you sound like an idiot, right?

twomp
12-06-2014, 04:09 PM
This HAS to be staged, it's way too convenient that twitter hasn't even finished ranting about NYC, LA already playing copycat. SOMEBODY is desperate to start a police war or race war. PLEASE tell me this guy isn't black.

So someone staged being shot and killed in order to get people to turn against the cops??? You make this retarded comment and have the nerve to call other people dumb? You must spend most of your life avoiding mirrors...

PRB
12-06-2014, 04:15 PM
So someone staged being shot and killed in order to get people to turn against the cops??? You make this retarded comment and have the nerve to call other people dumb? You must spend most of your life avoiding mirrors...

I'm just following the logic of liberty minded conspiracy theorists, are you calling 9/11 truthers retarded? do you think we can have liberty without paranoia of conspiracy?

if you don't believe my conspiracy theory is correct, you have to believe this is all just coincidence, right?

PRB
12-06-2014, 04:17 PM
You realize you sound like an idiot, right?

Actually i don't. And it doesn't really matter what you call $3.8M and 20 years of living free, I'll take it.

Tyreez
12-06-2014, 04:17 PM
I know a lot of people who will gladly take his money and 20 years in exchange for whatever beating he got, need I mention he wasn't beaten for being black?



They don't. But according to this other guy, one of them was, I had to get him to say it.



The dumbass shit is saying being awarded $3.8M and living 20 years is barely surviving, and that Biggie is an angel.

They wanted Biggie dead and they got him dead.
http://www.stufftheydontwantyoutoknow.com/blog/the-biggie-smalls-conspiracy/

Everybody knows LAPD officer Mack was behind that shit.

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 04:17 PM
Nothing justifies anything a policeman did. I just don't call it murder.



It matters to me if somebody's dumb enough to say it. It doens't matter to me if a person killed by a policeman was actually trying to kill a policeman.



Maybe I am, thanks to my vaccines. I'll take some barely survived encounters if I can get $3M and live another 20 years.



It's fun to hear a guy say he's an angel though.

Do you honestly not get how stupid you sound when you say "barely survived" as if it's referring to the rest of the man's goddamn life?

CPUd
12-06-2014, 04:31 PM
BREAKING: A still image from the police body cam has been released:

http://i.imgur.com/Hl6vZfb.jpg

surf
12-06-2014, 04:31 PM
Actually i don't. And it doesn't really matter what you call $3.8M and 20 years of living free, I'll take it.
c'mon man, you're better than that. I don't know if Rodney King enjoyed the rioting and looting done in his name, but if you really think you'd trade places with him....

PRB
12-06-2014, 04:39 PM
Do you honestly not get how stupid you sound when you say "barely survived" as if it's referring to the rest of the man's goddamn life?

I realize now he was referring to the moment he was beaten, and once survived, he's able to live normally for a long time. all that though, is still proof he wasn't murdered.

PRB
12-06-2014, 04:40 PM
c'mon man, you're better than that. I don't know if Rodney King enjoyed the rioting and looting done in his name, but if you really think you'd trade places with him....

I would. $3.8M sounds like enough to never have to care about a lot of things.

PRB
12-06-2014, 04:42 PM
They wanted Biggie dead and they got him dead.
http://www.stufftheydontwantyoutoknow.com/blog/the-biggie-smalls-conspiracy/

Everybody knows LAPD officer Mack was behind that shit.

who was THEY? 2Pac's crew or the government? Whose agenda did it ultimately serve?

PaulConventionWV
12-06-2014, 05:13 PM
I realize now he was referring to the moment he was beaten, and once survived, he's able to live normally for a long time. all that though, is still proof he wasn't murdered.

You are pathetic.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 05:24 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.

A Swiss army knife, brother. It was a Swiss army knife... It'd be a comedy skit if it weren't deadly.

PRB
12-06-2014, 05:25 PM
A Swiss army knife, brother. It was a Swiss army knife... It'd be a comedy skit if it weren't deadly.

and 9/11 was done with boxcutters, what's your point?

Anti Federalist
12-06-2014, 05:34 PM
A Swiss army knife, brother. It was a Swiss army knife... It'd be a comedy skit if it weren't deadly.

Sometimes I really do have a hard time wrapping my head around it all...

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 05:40 PM
and 9/11 was done with boxcutters, what's your point?

Boxcutters!

BOXCUTTERS!

BOXFUCKINCUTTERS.

I've never been more afraid of anything in my life.

green73
12-06-2014, 05:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

It was the corkscrew. They thought they were being mocked.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_28Us4ELbuEw/SnMLK37Q7zI/AAAAAAAABXc/wZWvtwlMHeM/s400/16262-Adorable-Big-Pink-Pig-With-A-Curly-Tail-In-Profile-Clipart-Illustration.jpg

PRB
12-06-2014, 05:48 PM
Boxcutters!

BOXCUTTERS!

BOXFUCKINCUTTERS.

I've never been more afraid of anything in my life.

I didn't say you have to be

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 05:57 PM
I didn't say you have to be

Well I said...


A Swiss army knife, brother. It was a Swiss army knife... It'd be a comedy skit if it weren't deadly.

Then you said....


and 9/11 was done with boxcutters, what's your point?

Then I said...

Boxcutters!

BOXCUTTERS!

BOXFUCKINCUTTERS.

I've never been more afraid of anything in my life.

Then you said...


I didn't say you have to be

So I think...

http://media.giphy.com/media/DfmqzOwI2gvqo/giphy.gif

navy-vet
12-06-2014, 06:00 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.
A WMD what with the saw and cork screw! Can't let that shit get to ya.

Dr.3D
12-06-2014, 06:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png
Looks to me like when they opened the throw down knife, they failed to get it all the way open.

green73
12-06-2014, 06:03 PM
A WMD what with the saw and cork screw! Can't let that shit get to ya.

Don't forget the toothpick!

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 06:06 PM
Looks to me like when they opened the throw down knife, they failed to get it all the way open.

Most folding knives are displayed by the prosecution in photos as semi-folded. A semi-fold makes the blade look bigger. It distinguishes it as a separapete entity to the whole.

Dr.3D
12-06-2014, 06:09 PM
Most folding knives are displayed by the prosecution in photos as semi-folded. A semi-fold makes the blade look bigger. It distinguishes it as a separapete entity to the whole.
So knowing the knife was going to be photographed, they decided to only partially open it?

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 06:13 PM
So knowing the knife was going to be photographed, they decided to only partially open it?

Not saying that. Didn't look like a lock blade to me so perhaps when the man was shot reaction caused it to toss and it somehow struck on the outer tip of the blade causing it to half close.

Dr.3D
12-06-2014, 06:23 PM
Not saying that. Didn't look like a lock blade to me so perhaps when the man was shot reaction caused it to toss and it somehow struck on the outer tip of the blade causing it to half close.
I think it could do that if a cop dropped it too.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 06:25 PM
I think it could do that if a cop dropped it too.

As possible. There might be better odds with your scenario so I will concede.

presence
12-06-2014, 07:23 PM
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phill4paul
12-06-2014, 07:29 PM
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Ah, it's black and it has a little thingy that folds out. Explains everything.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 07:29 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.


I stand with you in mockery and derision, trained kops after all, and yet I do not want to downplay the humble Swiss Army Knife, particularly the Victorinox. I had a Victorinox when I was a kid, and that thing would literally split a dropped hair. It would take you down to the bone, and bite into the bone like passing through so much warm butter. The sharpest boxknife was like a butter knife compared to that thing.

I, for one don't believe the official story. Something about the knife halfway open really bothers me. But to be fair to existential reality being a Victorinox if it was kept well and in good condition then it was less a 4" pocketknife and more like a 4" scalpel.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 07:35 PM
Not saying that. Didn't look like a lock blade to me so perhaps when the man was shot reaction caused it to toss and it somehow struck on the outer tip of the blade causing it to half close.

I was an outdoorsy kid, scouts, SAR, lived in the woods. I was also a raging nerd. So i had a thing for "the best." I was a particular fan of Victorinox and I had several of their knives. I do not believe they produced a blade that does not lock. Things may have changed, but my knowledge of '20 years ago' Victorinox would find that improbable.

One of Victorinox's selling points is their blades are sharper than scalpels. As an augment to that selling point, at least 20 years ago, was "every Victorinox blade locks, so you don't cut your stupid fingers off."

That was one of the puzzle pieces bothering me. This knife is a Victorinox, and Victorinox blades lock.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 07:37 PM
I stand with you in mockery and derision, trained kops after all, and yet I do not want to downplay the humble Swiss Army Knife, particularly the Victorinox. I had a Victorinox when I was a kid, and that thing would literally split a dropped hair. It would take you down to the bone, and bite into the bone like passing through so much warm butter. The sharpest boxknife was like a butter knife compared to that thing.

I, for one don't believe the official story. Something about the knife halfway open really bothers me. But to be fair to existential reality being a Victorinox if it was kept well and in good condition then it was less a 4" pocketknife and more like a 4" scalpel.

Been awhile since you bought one? None that I have seen are sold in that condition anymore. Something about liability. YOU can sharpen any damn thing you want to be a razors edge.
And it just so happens that one of the knives of one of the two individuals that I dispossessed of their knives happened to be a Swiss Army. Didn't have a baton, didn't have a taser, didn't have a gun. And that was back when they sold them as you remember them made. And I was fired for doing so.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 07:51 PM
Been awhile since you bought one? None that I have seen are sold in that condition anymore. Something about liability. YOU can sharpen any damn thing you want to be a razors edge.
And it just so happens that one of the knives of one of the two individuals that I dispossessed of their knives happened to be a Swiss Army. Didn't have a baton, didn't have a taser, didn't have a gun. And that was back when they sold them as you remember them made. And I was fired for doing so.

All Swiss Army Knives are not created equal. Victorinox is a minority brand with a much higher price point. Liability or not you buy this brand I bet it still comes from the factory like a scalpel. I just browsed reviews for Victorinox on Amazon and elsewhere, and a recurring theme was "sharper than a normal swiss army knife." I saw one review for a 'miniature' what was 'not as sharp as their normal products.' It really is a brand thing. From what I recall of their company philosophy in my younger days (and the reason I was willing to pay 3x the cost for a freaking swiss army knife) they would rather charge the customer more money and produce the better product, even if that means building in the cost of liability.

presence
12-06-2014, 07:52 PM
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phill4paul
12-06-2014, 07:53 PM
All Swiss Army Knives are not created equal. Victorinox is a minority brand with a much higher price point. Liability or not you buy this brand I bet it still comes from the factory like a scalpel. I just browsed reviews for Victorinox on Amazon and elsewhere, and a recurring theme was "sharper than a normal swiss army knife." I saw one review for a 'miniature' what was 'not as sharp as their normal products.' It really is a brand thing. From what I recall of their company philosophy in my younger days (and the reason I was willing to pay 3x the cost for a freaking swiss army knife) they would rather charge the customer more money and produce the better product, even if that means building in the cost of liability.

Fair enough.

phill4paul
12-06-2014, 07:56 PM
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tod evans
12-06-2014, 08:03 PM
I'd be interested to know if the blade in question was a locking one.

That's of no relevance you impertinent serf!

Don't you understand that the brave officers were in fear for their lives?

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 08:05 PM
Been awhile since you bought one? None that I have seen are sold in that condition anymore. Something about liability. YOU can sharpen any damn thing you want to be a razors edge.
And it just so happens that one of the knives of one of the two individuals that I dispossessed of their knives happened to be a Swiss Army. Didn't have a baton, didn't have a taser, didn't have a gun. And that was back when they sold them as you remember them made. And I was fired for doing so.

Also, I don't want to downplay your having disarmed that guy, that's straight awesome.

This knife bothers me for a couple of reasons. The 'difference' may not be as much today as it was 20 years ago but this brand was like the Ferrari of SAKs. If one is going to pay that much for a knife to 'do thuggery,' then there are way better choices more suited to the purpose. This is just not the kind of knife that "a man disposed to attack cops thuggery" would carry.

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12-06-2014, 08:06 PM
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GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 08:06 PM
I'd be interested to know if the blade in question was a locking one.

Yes.


The knife has everything you need, but isn't too wide. I bought three more for my kids. The price is very reasonable too (I think). If you're looking for a valuable tool that includes a good locking blade, this is it.

presence
12-06-2014, 08:10 PM
A bucket drummer


who witnessed the shooting said the man put his hands in his pockets when officers “ran up on him,” drew their guns, and killed him. “I don’t know what he had but I can say that when they told him to get down and comply, he did not at all. He had his hands outside of his pockets. When they ran up on him, he went inside of his pockets and stuck both hands inside of his pockets,” drummer Bruce Cherry told reporters (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hollywood-police-shooting-20141205-story.html). “That’s when they pulled out on him, that’s when the shots rang out.”



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/06/3600368/los-angeles-police-shooting-walk-of-fame/

presence
12-06-2014, 08:12 PM
"I heard a series of four or five pops," witness Matthew Rojas said.

"It was very surreal," Henry Hodge said. "The cars stopped, the people stopped, and immediately people started panicking."
One woman said a man ran into a McDonald's shouting that police shot his friend, who sometimes

"liked to wave a knife to scare tourists."



http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/hollywood-highland-shooting-report-284945511.html


msn tube at source

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 08:20 PM
Sounds to me like this guy was thinking "Oh crap cops, ditch the knife" and never managed to complete his thought.

Which doesn't explain the thing being halfway open. The more i think about it, nothing adequately explains the thing being halfway open except for malfeasance. These blades don't resist opening. Even if dude was literally 'shot in the act of opening it,' it would have been opened and locked.

Pure speculation but some person pulled it out of his pocket by the blade and flung it off to the side, it's the only thing that explains the halfway open blade to me.

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 08:22 PM
I think it was when they piled out like ducks quacking "move back move back move back" you can see a line of them forming a wall around the body obscuring it from view.

Or maybe the guy was actually trying to ditch the knife when he was shot. If he was just trying to 'grab and fling' the blade could be partially open.

ClydeCoulter
12-06-2014, 08:58 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Nomad-Pocket-Knife/dp/B0007QCOJ2/ref=pd_sim_sg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=07W01C4D1NT2S2WQGEJS

I don't think that is the knife. If it is the Classic SD, it's only 2.3 inches total length (folded), so the blade couldn't be longer.

edit: After another zoomed in look at the pics, maybe that is the one. Which means it almost as long as the Smith & Wesson that I carry in my watch pocket.

idiom
12-06-2014, 09:18 PM
There is something fundamentally not right about the position and the disposition of that knife.

It's half open. Who half-opens a Swiss Army Knife? It's too pat, like they 'shot him in the process of opening the knife' as if that would ever happen, and then it's 10 foot behind him? I dunno but I know I don't like it. Something doesn't add right. Something about the knife being half open really bothers me and I can't put my finger on it. Anything else at this point is speculation. But you know what I said a couple weeks ago, the first white person to incite people to riot was gonna be a thug too. (BSM thing) So who knows. All I know is something doesn't add up about the knife, and this half-open thing is most of it.

This. Anywhere else in the world a cop can take down someone heavily armed, while unarmed themselves and not kill the dude.

idiom
12-06-2014, 09:19 PM
Sounds to me like this guy was thinking "Oh crap cops, ditch the knife" and never managed to complete his thought.

Which doesn't explain the thing being halfway open. The more i think about it, nothing adequately explains the thing being halfway open except for malfeasance. These blades don't resist opening. Even if dude was literally 'shot in the act of opening it,' it would have been opened and locked.

Pure speculation but some person pulled it out of his pocket by the blade and flung it off to the side, it's the only thing that explains the halfway open blade to me.

So a dude with a knife requires that sort of response?

idiom
12-06-2014, 09:21 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-40588-thats-not-a-knife-thats-a-knoi-BoIl.gif

GunnyFreedom
12-06-2014, 09:22 PM
So a dude with a knife requires that sort of response?

Not only no, but hell no. I'm just trying to process what little evidence we have before the whole thing goes rorschach.

UWDude
12-07-2014, 12:54 AM
This HAS to be staged, it's way too convenient that twitter hasn't even finished ranting about NYC, LA already playing copycat. SOMEBODY is desperate to start a police war or race war. PLEASE tell me this guy isn't black.

Police kill unarmed people every day.

PRB
12-07-2014, 01:36 AM
Police kill unarmed people every day.

tell that to ignorant americans who are all caught up on the race issue and unlike liberty movement people, don't know how bad police are.

GunnyFreedom
12-07-2014, 02:47 AM
tell that to ignorant americans who are all caught up on the race issue and unlike liberty movement people, don't know how bad police are.

Only difference is someone suddenly decided to start reporting on them.

Tyreez
12-07-2014, 06:30 AM
who was THEY? 2Pac's crew or the government? Whose agenda did it ultimately serve?
The government's agenda. They didnt want Biggie waking people up to the truth bout the reality on the streets

Weston White
12-07-2014, 08:11 AM
Seems like they are all in some serious lessons from Heisenberg:


http://img.pandawhale.com/81988-elliott-knife-gif-Breaking-Bad-OiN0.gifhttp://img.pandawhale.com/81988-Elliott-if-were-gonna-go-that-Q3uY.gif

osan
12-07-2014, 08:28 AM
Oh look at that, another pig-involved oinking of a combobulated sentence with no subject and no active verb occurred.

That's right, and that is why I repeat to the nausea of everyone here that LANGUAGE MATTERS.

"Office Involved Shooting" - what the fuck does that mean? NOTHING.

One day I will not be surprised to find Themme turning it into a common acronym - OIS.

"And in other news, a young nig... erm... black... erm... uh... African American bo... erm... MAN was involved in an OIS. Police say he was armed and officer safety was at stake. End of story."

Are any of you old enough to have been (at least technically) a fully fledged adult when Robocop hit the theaters? Was I the only person who found the portrayal of the nightly news ridiculous? And yet, 20-some years later, the nightly news makes the Robocop caricature look positively formal and tame. At that time, the portrayal was outrageously absurd. Now it is daily fare.

osan
12-07-2014, 08:32 AM
this stuff happens all the time, now all the sudden people are paying attention?

It's superficially fashionable... this week.

Good grief, don't you know anything? :)

otherone
12-07-2014, 08:54 AM
Are any of you old enough to have been (at least technically) a fully fledged adult when Robocop hit the theaters? Was I the only person who found the portrayal of the nightly news ridiculous?

I saw it in the theater. Hollywood has been inuring us to (or conditioning us for) Dystopia for a long time. With every passing year I am more certain that each generation marches behind the lemming before it en route to an unavoidable precipice.

tod evans
12-07-2014, 09:01 AM
Are any of you old enough to have been (at least technically) a fully fledged adult when Robocop hit the theaters?

I'd been out of the Navy for 6 years when that came out...

I've still never watched it.....:o

osan
12-07-2014, 09:32 AM
I'm still in awe at the imagery with the stars and stripes. It's perfect. It's like God has His hand on the image in order to send America a warning. 'Here are your stars and stripes, and such is your claim to trust in God.' And Hollywood. A whole stinkin lot of people have been to Hollywood. People might identify with this. I think big things are in motion.


We've been sent warnings for 150 years or more. Few are listening because they just don't give a damn. The majority either see no problem or do not regard it as worthy of their action. If this land is to be preserved, and at this point that is a very big and tenuous "if", it appears at this time that it will once again be the 3% who are going to pull everyone's bacon out of the fire because the 97% are too cowardly, stupid, lazy, or vested to get real skin into the game.

This once again raises a question I asked perhaps a year ago and nobody wanted to touch it: what does the 3% do about the 97%? It is a valid question and should be addressed, even if to say "nothing - leave them as they are". I can accept that, but then (and in any case I suspect) that the restoration of this land to that which it ought to be is a task looming far larger than most people even here can imagine.

I am all for "leaving them alone", but the right context, and here "right" means "you're on your own". No more welfare state. No more taxpayer-extorted safety nets. You go make your way by whatever valid means you can manage. If you need charity and can get it, blessings be upon you. If not, tough shit. No more of this picking the pockets of Peter to pay Paul. Enough is far too much, already.

That leaves the spectre of correcting "law", or more correctly put. Cleaning that up will require basically a coup d-etat because there is no way that our current system is likely to affect the necessary changes to the degrees needed any time before the sun goes nova. That almost by necessity means the (at least temporary and/or partial) dismantling of the Constitution. I see no possible way that we would be able to affect the necessary changes with the likes of the 97% peopling the Congress. I predict with high confidence that little to nothing of substance would change and that they would, in fact, become worse by a quantum.

What I mean is this: imagine a civil war broke out and we killed the feds to the man or placed them at the bottoms of salt mines. It would make no difference because 97% of the population is comprised mostly of idiots whose brain poisons would retrieve control of "government" (a statistical certainty if we allow things to return to "normal" in a completely organic manner). That means Congress would appear and operate much as it does now. The lobbying would continue and the naive new Congress would be open to the softly spoken lies. Forget open corruption for the moment and just consider the general standards of right and wrong as they commonly exist in America today. Almost every rotten chip in the American barrel would remain. Remember the Congressional pain expressed at having to cut a mere $6B from a trillion dollar budget with the likes of Nancy Pelosi shrieking that there was nothing left to cut? That would continue.

Now for the part where it gets worse. At first the 3%ers *might* be hailed as saviors of the republic, but I absolutely GUARANTEE you that in short time that opinion would change, at least and at first behind closed doors where men would have conversations that would go roughly like this:


"Well yes, the 3% did in fact make possible our positions, but we've fixed everything, yet they remain armed. Can we afford to continue to have that?"

"No! We most certainly cannot. We have a new order of things and it is a good one; one that will last a very long time, if not forever. We've rooted out the corruption and made everything better. What if the men with guns decide they don't like that? No no... that simply cannot be tolerated. We have peace and are on our way back to prosperity. Most importantly, we have ORDER and UNITY. The 3% were probably just lucky; consider how things might have turned out... far and away worse. What's to say that if they tried this again one day that they would not precipitate the destruction of everything? No, I agree that the 3% must be clipped. Let us begin by disarming them..."

And so it would go, the piecemeal, creeping rationalization for why we must be taken to heel. This is not reasonably questionable in my mind, given the long historical precedents. I do believe it would be delivered in draconian fashion precisely because of the success. It's all now fixed, so time to stand down COMPLETELY. We've got this. And yes, I do in fact believe that the majority is precisely that insane and corrupt such that in the wake of what would be a terrifying series of events to the meaner, the average American would be sufficiently freaked out that they would be practically begging Themme to disarm one and all no matter what level of force would be needed. And the media machine would be rapid in its adaptation, turning coat on the heroes on a dime, now painting them as demons to be stamped out for the sake of security and safety... and the children.

This is why a civil revolt of any significance necessitates the end of the republic as we have known it and necessitating a rebuild pretty well from the ground up. And how would that happen? Who would make the decisions? Whose wise men would chair that committee? In a sea of 300 million IDIOTS, what are the statistical chances that, say, 1000 of what we here would regard as at least minimally right-minded individuals would be gathered and then come to the correct solutions? I'd call that as near to zero as once can get.

Changing this nation fundamentally in restoration of even what we had in the 1920s would take generations to achieve without warfare, if it would even be possible. I question the probability because the current system is geared to act in perfect concert with all human weakness. It is brilliantly implemented and it means that we would be like horny teens, ready to explode, yet deciding not to put hands or other body parts on the ultra-hot whore that has been laid down in our beds with us, herself dying to get her mouth properly affixed. How long does anyone thing that that will last?

This is why I see us as being in such deep trouble and why I see nothing fundamental changing for the better, barring a global cataclysm that wipes out the immediate ability for us as a species to continue on this insane gallop into the maw of destruction. This system... this "thing" is so vast in its mental entrenchment that I see no other way to correct the horrors of the human mind that have lead to our current material circumstance. This thing is well beyond planetary in its scale precisely because it lives in mind.

Therefore, barring such a cataclysm, we need to pretty well settle with the fact that freedom will not be forthcoming in our time, if ever. It seems, and please do offer any counter argument as I could use some cheery news, the best for which we can hope is that with endless vigilance and unbending determination we might restore the land to its 1920s political condition by the time our grandchildren are themselves grandparents. I find this the overly optimistic case, and perhaps I am not seeing clearly, so please chime in with your opinions. As I say, good news is always welcome.

presence
12-07-2014, 09:48 AM
That's right, and that is why I repeat to the nausea of everyone here that LANGUAGE MATTERS.

"Office Involved Shooting" - what the fuck does that mean? NOTHING.

One day I will not be surprised to find Themme turning it into a common acronym - OIS.


LOL

So passe'

Crawl back in your hole old man.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OIS

limequat
12-07-2014, 09:53 AM
LOL

So passe'

Crawl back in your hole old man.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OIS

Yep...LAPD twitter said OIS and ADW.

Officer involved shooting after responding to a call of "Assault with a Deadly Weapon". I mean, I can't quite grasp the magnitude of the irony of shooting a guy dead on the suspicion of ADW with a fucking Swiss army knife. If it was that fucking deadly, there would be some dead cops. Maybe he filed their nails, dunno.

tod evans
12-07-2014, 10:07 AM
It seems, and please do offer any counter argument as I could use some cheery news, the best for which we can hope is that with endless vigilance and unbending determination we might restore the land to its 1920s political condition by the time our grandchildren are themselves grandparents. I find this the overly optimistic case, and perhaps I am not seeing clearly, so please chime in with your opinions. As I say, good news is always welcome.

I am unable to proffer anything that even resembles "good news"...

From my position the 97% of whom you speak will gladly, and without pause, completely annihilate the 3% in order to maintain their status quo....

Even here I read comment after comment that professes to somehow fix the current system..

The outlook is grim, but honestly such grimness is what's required to quash the entrenched.......

presence
12-07-2014, 10:08 AM
Yep...LAPD twitter said OIS and ADW.

It certainly wasn't this recent LAPD incident that started it... OIS is a very common acronym on twitter; I check it often to follow summary execution newz.

When dogs get summarily executed its #copshotdog in social media;
when people get summarily executed its always the verbless #OIS

osan
12-07-2014, 10:43 AM
LOL

So passe'

Crawl back in your hole old man.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OIS


Sorry, I don't do anything calling itself "twitter".

presence
12-07-2014, 10:47 AM
Sorry, I don't do anything calling itself "twitter".


I twittered a girl one time when I was a freshman in highschool.

tod evans
12-07-2014, 10:50 AM
Sorry, I don't do anything calling itself "twitter".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atwitter


atwit·ter adjective \ə-ˈtwi-tər\
: nervously excited

Full Definition of ATWITTER

: nervously concerned : excited <gossips atwitter with speculation — Time>
See atwitter defined for English-language learners »
Examples of ATWITTER

<the whole office was atwitter with speculation that there might be another round of layoffs>
First Known Use of ATWITTER

1833

twomp
12-07-2014, 10:55 AM
I'm just following the logic of liberty minded conspiracy theorists, are you calling 9/11 truthers retarded? do you think we can have liberty without paranoia of conspiracy?

if you don't believe my conspiracy theory is correct, you have to believe this is all just coincidence, right?

I don't have to believe anything other than the fact that you are an idiot. What does this have to do with 9/11? Please tell me....

A Son of Liberty
12-07-2014, 11:00 AM
As I say, good news is always welcome.

There is no good news. The best we can hope for is a collapse of the current system, and that we may be lucky enough to avoid the savages, the hyenas and the vultures - literally and figuratively - who will scavenge the countryside in search of goods and slaves. The cities will burn. The suburbs will be plundered, as will indiscriminate parts of the rural countryside. Pray that you are amongst enough fairly like-minded that if they come for your property or life, you can hold them off.

There aren't enough of us. We're surrounded by savages.

PRB
12-07-2014, 01:40 PM
I don't have to believe anything other than the fact that you are an idiot. What does this have to do with 9/11? Please tell me....

how can you have liberty without 9/11 truth? you tell me!

ClydeCoulter
12-07-2014, 02:07 PM
how can you have liberty without 9/11 truth? you tell me!

Is there really a point here towards the OP?

ChristianAnarchist
12-07-2014, 05:09 PM
Hard to tell. When its tagged "1" with the card, the knife is down and to the left of the white beverage lid. In the photo prior to evidence tag, you can see the white beverage lid, but its really hard to tell if anything is down and to the left. There appears to be something darker in that location. Could be the knife; could be a shadow. Can't tell due to resolution.

Just do one of those "zoom and enhance" like we see in all the cop movies...

CPUd
12-07-2014, 05:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vZ6e5P4.jpg

PRB
12-07-2014, 05:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vZ6e5P4.jpg

we don't get fooled again!

satchelmcqueen
12-07-2014, 06:19 PM
An officer-involved shooting... I really do wonder if this is a deliberate choice of words (every single time), or is it something that just comes naturally to them? It's similar to what I saw on FB recently: Someone posted an ultrasound picture of her unborn child and it was captioned "just a picture of the mass of cells in my womb." No, it was not meant as a joke.

yes it is on purpose. the way they word it always assigns zero guilt or intended wrong doing to the officer.

PRB
12-07-2014, 07:31 PM
yes it is on purpose. the way they word it always assigns zero guilt or intended wrong doing to the officer.

if it wasn't in court, it's not evidence or testimony anyway. but yes, even the public needs to hear the clean edited version.

Mani
12-07-2014, 11:13 PM
A Swiss army knife...

It was a Swiss army knife.


Ban them!!

morfeeis
12-08-2014, 10:56 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Y9XrrbI.png

Break out the tin foil, but i'd love to see some other photos of that blade. if it was open at the time of the shooting then it could show some dings, i wouldn't put it past the LAPD PR machine to open the blade if it was found closed.

SeanTX
12-08-2014, 11:12 AM
In Seattle they will shoot you in broad daylight for holding a pen knife -- and they will get away with it :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt1mFQG3tJg

surf
12-08-2014, 11:57 AM
in Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idO9tKFAsk8no charges

PRB
12-08-2014, 12:49 PM
Looks like Obama just shock and awed the city in response.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4VLLA_CEAA0i9i.jpg:large

Tyreez
12-08-2014, 12:59 PM
Looks like Obama just shock and awed the city in response.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4VLLA_CEAA0i9i.jpg:large

Wouldn't be surprised if LAPD behind that shit. They want some panic to distract from all the shit they're doing on the streets.

Pericles
12-08-2014, 01:23 PM
Sorry, I don't do anything calling itself "twitter".

Because if I did, I might be considered a twit.

Dr.3D
12-08-2014, 01:33 PM
in Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idO9tKFAsk8no charges
Do those guys use black shoe polish on their heads?