MO - St. Louis Rams players enter stadium in "Hands Up, Don't Shoot!" pose

[Anti Federalist]

Rams Players Make Bold Political Statement by Entering Field With “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” Pose

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/rams-players-bold-political-statement-entering-field-hands-up-dont-shoot-pose/#1hOWJ7GTmT8qJt9T.99

http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pc-141130-rams-hands-up-jsw-01_e7486b9cc4ee89891c326ba9f65a45b4.nbcnews-ux-1240-900.jpg

St. Louis, Mo. – St. Louis Rams players Stedman Bailey, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt came out onto the field sporting the “hands up, don’t shoot” pose during their home game against the Raiders.

The gesture was a show of solidarity with the Ferguson protest movement after this weeks controversial grand jury decision to not indict officer Darren Wilson.

This symbolic protest by the Rams players is one of the most overt political statements ever seen during an NFL game.

I salute these brave players for using their position as professional football players on the national stage to make such an important political statement.

[SeanTX]

From the posting AF quoted :


I salute these brave players for using their position as professional football players on the national stage to make such an important political statement.

It would be nice if something similar could have been done for Kelly Thomas, the Albuquerque camper James Boyd, etc. And yes, Miriam Carey -- it would be a great time to revisit that one; a totally innocent black woman executed for becoming confused by the security theater surrounding the White House.

You know, all the instances of police abuse where no case whatsoever could be made for "self defense" on the part of the enforcer(s). And MANY of those victims have been black.

However, no, let's choose a debatable case that isn't likely to change the minds of most people, and will just advance the cause of the police state.

[enhanced_deficit]

Always good to see NFL players raising their voice against unjustified violence.
Their protest be even more powerful when Rams or some NFL athlete refuse to stand with alleged dronegangsta (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431097-U-S-drone-strikes-killed-Pakistani-grandmother&p=5277619&viewfull=1#post5277619) too.

President Obama congratulates Michael Sam, Rams, NFL ...
www.cbssports.com/nfl/.../president-barack-obama-congr...CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/.../president-barack-obama-congr...CBSSports.com)
On Saturday night, the NFL experienced a historical moment when the Rams selected Missouri linebacker Michael Sam with the 249th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft. Sam became the first openly gay player in the NFL.

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It would be nice if something similar could have been done for Kelly Thomas, the Albuquerque camper James Boyd, etc.


Fixed.

It would be nice if something similar could have been done for Kelly Thomas, the Albuquerque camper James Boyd, Miriam Carey etc.



#Windows Up, Don't Shoot (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464067-Windows-Up-Don-t-Shoot&)

[XNavyNuke]

Cop Association demands NFL discipline Rams players

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_sports/article_e4dd2664-791c-11e4-8caf-b3a57658c01d.html?mode=jqm


. The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology. Roorda said he planned to speak to the NFL and the Rams to voice his organization's displeasure tomorrow. He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be. Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours.

Thank you for that warning. Maybe they will demand that the players fines also go to their organization's coffers.

XNN

[tod evans]

Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours.

Of course kops have 1st amendment rights, question here is do these parasites have authorization to exercise said rights while sucking the tit?

I certainly haven't given my approval for a great many behaviors these tax-ticks exhibit "on my behalf"...

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology.


Yet another group of imbeciles who don't know the meaning of contrition, beyond the pop culture "public apology." :rolleyes:


He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be.

It's obvious those Ram players should be shot and killed.

[nobody's_hero]

Of course they should be fined. Their job is to offer bread-and-circuses to the masses, not get them to think.

[moostraks]

Cop Association demands NFL discipline Rams players

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_sports/article_e4dd2664-791c-11e4-8caf-b3a57658c01d.html?mode=jqm



Thank you for that warning. Maybe they will demand that the players fines also go to their organization's coffers.

XNN

The appropriate response from law enforcement on this? Well, now if that doesn't sound like a threat to use one's position as a means of silencing opposition...

Please do keep exercising your first amendment rights police, as it clearly informs those willing to take the time to read just exactly what type of an overblown ego you have when you feel entitled to oh, say, consider an appropriate police response to those who disagree with your organization. Choose your words carefully when trying to shine that turd sandwich you want to feed the public.

[otherone]

The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology. Roorda said he planned to speak to the NFL and the Rams to voice his organization's displeasure tomorrow. He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be. Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours.
Irony.
Any actual advocate of the first amendment wouldn't call for discipline of others who exercise it.

Besides, they can execute the players if they want... those fella's are big and scary.

[PaulConventionWV]

Rams Players Make Bold Political Statement by Entering Field With “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” Pose

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/rams-players-bold-political-statement-entering-field-hands-up-dont-shoot-pose/#1hOWJ7GTmT8qJt9T.99

http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pc-141130-rams-hands-up-jsw-01_e7486b9cc4ee89891c326ba9f65a45b4.nbcnews-ux-1240-900.jpg

St. Louis, Mo. – St. Louis Rams players Stedman Bailey, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt came out onto the field sporting the “hands up, don’t shoot” pose during their home game against the Raiders.

The gesture was a show of solidarity with the Ferguson protest movement after this weeks controversial grand jury decision to not indict officer Darren Wilson.

This symbolic protest by the Rams players is one of the most overt political statements ever seen during an NFL game.

I salute these brave players for using their position as professional football players on the national stage to make such an important political statement.

It's almost like a second civil rights movement, except this one is actually worthwhile.

Edit: I just realized how bad that sounded. I was referring to all of the other fake "civil rights" movements popping up nowadays.

[PaulConventionWV]

From the posting AF quoted :



It would be nice if something similar could have been done for Kelly Thomas, the Albuquerque camper James Boyd, etc. And yes, Miriam Carey -- it would be a great time to revisit that one; a totally innocent black woman executed for becoming confused by the security theater surrounding the White House.

You know, all the instances of police abuse where no case whatsoever could be made for "self defense" on the part of the enforcer(s). And MANY of those victims have been black.

However, no, let's choose a debatable case that isn't likely to change the minds of most people, and will just advance the cause of the police state.

We didn't choose the case. The media did.

[donnay]

We didn't choose the case. The media did.


Yes, and they were really hoping this incident would have caused all kinds of chaos so they could bring order out of chaos. They need a civil war, I just hope people are paying attention and do not fall for their trap.

[Origanalist]

Yes, and they were really hoping this incident would have caused all kinds of chaos so they could bring order out of chaos. They need a civil war, I just hope people are paying attention and do not fall for their trap.

Bingo. Out of all the cases of police abuse they chose this one.

[donnay]

Bingo. Out of all the cases of police abuse they chose this one.

Uh huh...then you see the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make their cameo appearances race baiting the situation. People should instantly know they are there for only one reason--The conquer and divide team.

On a side note: The maligning of Bill Cosby--my theory is; they wanted the man to shut up. He was speaking out about the Ferguson incident. He might have been the lone voice of reason in all of this mess.

DR BILL COSBY SPEAKS
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~schochet/101/Cosby_Speech.htm

EXCLUSIVE: Bill Cosby weighs in on Ferguson before Amarillo show
http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2014-09-15/exclusive-cosby-weighs-ferguson-amarillo-show

[jmdrake]

From the posting AF quoted :



It would be nice if something similar could have been done for Kelly Thomas, the Albuquerque camper James Boyd, etc. And yes, Miriam Carey -- it would be a great time to revisit that one; a totally innocent black woman executed for becoming confused by the security theater surrounding the White House.

You know, all the instances of police abuse where no case whatsoever could be made for "self defense" on the part of the enforcer(s). And MANY of those victims have been black.

However, no, let's choose a debatable case that isn't likely to change the minds of most people, and will just advance the cause of the police state.

You know....we as a movement need to take this up as a cause. In 2007 we asked "Who is Ron Paul?" How about:

http://i.imgur.com/QI3HvEz.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/QI3HvEz)

http://i.imgur.com/OujPfTr.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/OujPfTr)

http://i.imgur.com/DMqMX2j.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/DMqMX2j)

I'm playing to wear t-shirts like this at the next Martin Luther King Day march. We could create a national movement bringing attention to police brutality that gets swept under the rug the same way Ron Paul was swept under the rug.

[Origanalist]

Uh huh...then you see the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make their cameo appearances race baiting the situation. People should instantly know they are there for only one reason--The conquer and divide team.

On a side note: The maligning of Bill Cosby--my theory is; they wanted the man to shut up. He was speaking out about the Ferguson incident. He might have been the lone voice of reason in all of this mess.

DR BILL COSBY SPEAKS
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~schochet/101/Cosby_Speech.htm

EXCLUSIVE: Bill Cosby weighs in on Ferguson before Amarillo show
http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2014-09-15/exclusive-cosby-weighs-ferguson-amarillo-show

Don't forget Louis “We’ll tear this goddamn country up!" Farrakhan.

[anaconda]

All Americans should do this every time they are in the vicinity of a cop.

[philipped]

Anybody who says it was senseless and wrong of the players to do that, really simply doesn't understand what's going on at all.

[THX 1138]

Rams Players Make Bold Political Statement by Entering Field With “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” Pose

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/rams-players-bold-political-statement-entering-field-hands-up-dont-shoot-pose/#1hOWJ7GTmT8qJt9T.99

http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pc-141130-rams-hands-up-jsw-01_e7486b9cc4ee89891c326ba9f65a45b4.nbcnews-ux-1240-900.jpg

St. Louis, Mo. – St. Louis Rams players Stedman Bailey, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt came out onto the field sporting the “hands up, don’t shoot” pose during their home game against the Raiders.

The gesture was a show of solidarity with the Ferguson protest movement after this weeks controversial grand jury decision to not indict officer Darren Wilson.

This symbolic protest by the Rams players is one of the most overt political statements ever seen during an NFL game.

I salute these brave players for using their position as professional football players on the national stage to make such an important political statement.




**If Michael Brown had been a white guy, those guys wouldn't give two sh**s about him.

[Ender]

I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.

[JK/SEA]

I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.

this is pretty much the way i see it.

[moostraks]

I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.


this is pretty much the way i see it.

Me as well. Well said Ender!

[acptulsa]

I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.

There's motion and there's direction. Both are important.


"There is one thing in common with all revolutions (in fact, they are pretty much like wars in that respect), nobody ever knows what they are fighting about."--Will Rogers

This discussion--this "bitching"--is important. The MSM saw the discontent building and set out to define the narrative of it. We've seen them deflect the heat from the real culprits before, and we've redirected narratives in the right direction before. And we're doing it again.

I know. I've been explaining this to people too. And it works better in small groups and quiet moments than it would on the streets of Ferguson at night.

[AuH20]

Now we have professional athletes repeating a false meme? Sheesh. I'm really starting to get sick of both sides.

[AuH20]

Cop Association demands NFL discipline Rams players

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_sports/article_e4dd2664-791c-11e4-8caf-b3a57658c01d.html?mode=jqm



Thank you for that warning. Maybe they will demand that the players fines also go to their organization's coffers.

XNN

Wackjob police angry at the misguided? This is getting good.

[acptulsa]

Now we have professional athletes repeating false memes. Sheesh. I'm really starting to get sick of both sides.

It isn't a false meme. Brown isn't be the optimum poster boy for it. Race certainly doesn't have as much to do with it as people are being led to believe. But we didn't choose how this broke out of the stifling chamber and into open conversation, and we didn't expect the MSM to do this in an honest way.

There's no point in distracting each other from the important work of spreading the message that Brown is not the only victim of modern militarized 'no hesitation' police, doesn't represent the only color of these victims, and doesn't represent the typical level of 'thuggishness' of these victims.

I completely agree with Ender that if you don't like the unhealthy and unenlightening direction the mainstream media is pushing this conversation, then get out of the echo chamber and push the conversation the right direction. And be grateful the conversation is finally happening at all.

[jmdrake]

I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.

Just blindly "doing something" accomplishes little. Dr. King launched the Montgomery bus boycott off of the right"victim" and using the right tactics. Rosa Parks was hand picked by the civil rights movement to engage in civil disobedience and be arrested because she had an impeccable record. There were other people who were arrested before her but they weren't pushed to the front. In this current case is there a lot that's unsettling in both directions. Mike Brown was a thug. So was Darren Wilson. Was it a bad shooting? Hard to say. Was the indictment thrown? Seems like it. And now we have blacks burning black businesses and an innocent man beat to death with hammers. I applaud the NFL players in the OP doing something. But I wish the public was better informed. That's why I created memes for Kelly Thomas, Miriam Carey and others. Feel free to get off your own "duff" and share them.

See:


You know....we as a movement need to take this up as a cause. In 2007 we asked "Who is Ron Paul?" How about:

http://i.imgur.com/QI3HvEz.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/QI3HvEz)

http://i.imgur.com/OujPfTr.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/OujPfTr)

http://i.imgur.com/DMqMX2j.png Click to share (http://i.imgur.com/DMqMX2j)

I'm playing to wear t-shirts like this at the next Martin Luther King Day march. We could create a national movement bringing attention to police brutality that gets swept under the rug the same way Ron Paul was swept under the rug.

[Anti Federalist]

You know, I gotta agree with this 100%.

We don't get to pick what the propaganda organs decide to sensationalize.

The fact remains that an unarmed man was shot dead by cops under suspicious circumstances, again.

This is a teaching moment not only wrt to the out of control cops, but the police state in general and the government run propaganda organs aka the "mainstream media".


I really don't get this forum sometimes.

Here are people protesting things that we have been complaining about forever- BUT because it doesn't fit our agenda, we pooh-pooh them and call them racists, media idiots, thugs, whatevers. Why oh why weren't they there for Miriam, Kelly, etc?

Well, where in the hell were any of us? I don't recall anyone on this forum protesting any police violence or getting off their duffs and doing something about ANYTHING.

This is a beginning- this is good. JOIN IN SOMETHING OR QUIT YER BITCHIN'.

[Ender]

There's motion and there's direction. Both are important.



This discussion--this "bitching"--is important. The MSM saw the discontent building and set out to define the narrative of it. We've seen them deflect the heat from the real culprits before, and we've redirected narratives in the right direction before. And we're doing it again.

I know. I've been explaining this to people too. And it works better in small groups and quiet moments than it would on the streets of Ferguson at night.

Real culprits are who again? The media didn't shoot Brown- yes, they're a**holes but Brown is still dead.

I agree that bitchin' is important- I don't understand the complete and utter nonsense of demeaning this incident and boo-hooing about everything else.

[Danke]

And the lie is perpetuated. Not surprising with the IQ of a NFL footballer.

[AuH20]

It isn't a false meme. Brown isn't be the optimum poster boy for it. Race certainly doesn't have as much to do with it as people are being led to believe. But we didn't choose how this broke out of the stifling chamber and into open conversation, and we didn't expect the MSM to do this in an honest way.

There's no point in distracting each other from the important work of spreading the message that Brown is not the only victim of modern militarized 'no hesitation' police, doesn't represent the only color of these victims, and doesn't represent the typical level of 'thuggishness' of these victims.

Brown is absolutely the wrong character for this crusade. Even Pharrell Williams thinks he sealed his own fate. I just wish this entire circus went away. You can keep the honorable Darren Wilson (spare me the lionization) and Mr. Dindu Nuffins.

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[jmdrake]

You know, I gotta agree with this 100%.

We don't get to pick what the propaganda organs decide to sensationalize.

The fact remains that an unarmed man was shot dead by cops under suspicious circumstances, again.

This is a teaching moment not only wrt to the out of control cops, but teh police state in general and the government run propaganda organs aka the "mainstream media".

AF, this entire movement began as an attempt to get publicity for a marginalized presidential candidate. We are powerful enough that we don't have to sit idly by and go along with the crumbs the MSM gives us wrt to publicizing police brutality. For instance, in a little over a month there will be MLK rallies around the country. I plan to show up to my local one with a poster showing pictures of Miriam Carey, Kelly Thomas, Baby Bou and others. I challenge others to do the same!

[AuH20]

And the lie is perpetuated. Not surprising with the IQ of a NFL footballer.

I think it's more attributable to tribal loyalty. Remember how fiercely the black community held onto Orenthal James Simpson when he was basically living a white life as a grade A celebrity? Given the high emotions that were percolating during the trial, you would have thought O.J. was Nelson Mandela.

[acptulsa]

Real culprits are who again?

Not Ferguson--the feds. Not racists--oligarchs. Not the divided--the would-be conquerors.


Brown is absolutely the wrong character for this crusade. Even Pharrell Williams thinks he sealed his own fate. I just wish this entire circus went away. You can keep the honorable Darren Wilson (spare me the lionization) and Mr. Dindu Nuffins.

The difference between you and me is, you see a necessary and overdue conversation being perverted and you want it to go away. I'm glad it's finally happening at all and I have complete confidence in our ability to redirect it to less perverted ground.

Don't like the poster boy for the cause? I don't either. Mr. Drake has three more likable ones all set to go on the poster and there are quite a few more where they came from. Hell, we should put as many of them on the poster as we can fit, just to sabotage the MSM spin that this is an isolated incident.

Take the initiative and redirect the narrative--or shut up and get out of the way.

[jmdrake]

Brown is absolutely the wrong character for this crusade. Even Pharrell Williams thinks he sealed his own fate. I just wish this entire circus went away. You can keep the honorable Darren Wilson (spare me the lionization) and Mr. Dindu Nuffins.


Actually Pharell took a middle of the road approach stating that Mike Brown was indeed acting "bullyish", but that Wilson's actions didn't seem justified either.

‘The boy was walking in the middle of the street when the police supposedly told him to “get the f*** on the sidewalk” — if you don’t listen to that after just having pushed a storeowner, then you are asking for trouble.”

But the multi-millionaire performer also revealed that he believed Brown’s actions did not in anyway warrant his death and that Officer Wilson should have been charged in the connection with the incident.

Read more at http://rare.us/story/pharrell-williams-accuses-michael-brown-of-bullyish-behavior/#WXVvgoQZF3gOYCkR.99

And the comments from to his well thought out and balanced approach?

He has part of it right and Part of it Wrong. "Brown’s actions did not in anyway warrant his death and that Officer Wilson should have been charged in the connection with the incident" is COMPLETELY wrong. If you assault a police officer and battle for his/her gun, you deserve what you get. Listen to the Police, comply and go home. Parents need to step up and teach their children. That could have stopped this from happening, stopped the 12 year old from being killed in ohio, and many more.

Note these jackasses even blame the 12 year old boy for getting shot for having a BB gun!

[Anti Federalist]

AF, this entire movement began as an attempt to get publicity for a marginalized presidential candidate. We are powerful enough that we don't have to sit idly by and go along with the crumbs the MSM gives us wrt to publicizing police brutality. For instance, in a little over a month there will be MLK rallies around the country. I plan to show up to my local one with a poster showing pictures of Miriam Carey, Kelly Thomas, Baby Bou and others. I challenge others to do the same!

This is a good idea, and you're right as well.

You know...that gives me an idea as well...new thread inbound.

[surf]

good for these Rams.

and, on a completely trivial note, thanks to Tre Mason for the fantasy win

[Anti Federalist]

good for these Rams.

and, on a completely trivial note, thanks to Tre Mason for the fantasy win

I'm not a football fan, what is the word around fandom on their actions?

Any comments?

[phill4paul]

All Americans should do this every time they are in the vicinity of a cop.

Umm, no. One of my hands is going to be right close to the one tool that I might need most given how the situation plays out.

[Todd]

I'm not a football fan, what is the word around fandom on their actions?

Any comments?

I'm going to gather most think they are just moron thugs. One guy I know says he thinks they should be fined by the league.

[Zippyjuan]

NFL says they won't punish players who protested.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/nfl-rams-ferguson-protest


The NFL will not adhere to a request from the St. Louis Police Officer’s Association to discipline St. Louis Rams players who did the “hands up, don’t shoot” pose used by protesters in Ferguson, Mo. during pre-game introductions on Sunday.

“We respect and understand the concerns of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

The police officer’s association issued a letter late Sunday condemning the players’ actions as “tasteless, offensive and inflammatory” given a grand jury’s decision not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson in the fatal shooting of black teenager Michael Brown.

Five Rams players raised their hands as they walked out of the tunnel onto the field at the Edwards Jones Dome before Sunday’s game against the Oakland Raiders.

Wide receiver Stedman Bailey said he and his teammates decided to make the gesture shortly before the game, and intended it to be something positive.

“Violence should stop. There’s a lot of violence going on here in St. Louis. We definitely hear about it all, and we just want it to stop,” Bailey told reporters after the game.

Tight end Jared Cook said he and his teammates wanted to show solidarity with protesters, because they had not been able to physically join them since the grand jury’s announcement was made last week. Cook said his family members went to Ferguson last week and reported back to him what they saw.

“It’s dangerous out there. None of us want to get caught up in that. We wanted to come out and show our respect to the protesters that have been doing a heck of a job,” Cook said.

Cook said he didn’t consider his teammates’ actions a distraction, and wide receiver Kenny Britt took issue with the notion that Rams players were choosing sides in a heated community issue.

“We are here making sure something positive comes out of it,” Britt said. “I’m not here for the police. I’m here for a great cause that could come out of this if people come together.”

[presence]

Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours. I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."


Sounds to me like a threat of false arrest; that counts as assault in my book.

[Ender]

Not Ferguson--the feds. Not racists--oligarchs. Not the divided--the would-be conquerors.



The difference between you and me is, you see a necessary and overdue conversation being perverted and you want it to go away. I'm glad it's finally happening at all and I have complete confidence in our ability to redirect it to less perverted ground.

Don't like the poster boy for the cause? I don't either. Mr. Drake has three more likable ones all set to go on the poster and there are quite a few more where they came from. Hell, we should put as many of them on the poster as we can fit, just to sabotage the MSM spin that this is an isolated incident.

Take the initiative and redirect the narrative--or shut up and get out of the way.

AMEN.

[presence]

"Whatever has happened in America to cause these feelings of resentment,
it's not a failure of law enforcement,"


St. Louis Police Officers Association business manager Jeff Roorda told CBS News correspondent Vladimir Duthiers.

"If we spend this time in the wake of Michael Brown's killing trying to change law enforcement to fix this problem, it's going to be a betrayal to his legacy because that's not why Michael Brown ended on the street confronting a police officer," Roorda said. "It's decades of racial disparity, and economic disparity.


It's not a problem with the police."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ferguson-fallout-st-louis-police-rep-jeff-roorda-its-not-a-problem-with-the-police/


Regarding his statement Missouri State Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal replied:

seems like a very angry man
[]
Mr. Roorda is bitter.
[]

The world needs more love and hopefully America will join me in praying for the man to become more compassionate

[muh_roads]

Dindu Nuffins...lol

The rams players should've been carrying cigars in each hand.

[Anti Federalist]

"Whatever has happened in America to cause these feelings of resentment, it's not a failure of law enforcement,"

Jeff Roorda, the cop's very own version of Matt Collins.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Cook said he didn’t consider his teammates’ actions a distraction, and wide receiver Kenny Britt took issue with the notion that Rams players were choosing sides in a heated community issue.



The detractors would love to see it become a distraction.

St. Louis 52 Oakland 0


Oakland is having a horrible year, but beating any pro team that bad is pretty good. Maybe the hand raising display actually helped the Rams.

[Anti Federalist]

Ex-Cop with History of Lying to Protect Crooked Cops Wants Rams Players Punished for Free Speech

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ex-cop-history-lying-protect-crooked-cops-rams-players-punished-free-speech/#C2uvghXQF1jAlFF4.99

St. Louis, Mo. – Sunday afternoon Rams players Stedman Baily, Tavon Austion, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt entered the football field with the “hands up, don’t shoot” gesture as a means of showing solidarity with the Brown family and the Ferguson community.

This bold political statement by the players was immediately condemned by the St. Louis Police Officers Association (SPLOA). The group released a statement on Sunday evening labeling the players exercising of their First Amendment rights as, “tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.”

Jeff Roorda, the SPLAO Business Manager, went on to say in the statement that the players need to be disciplined, and that the Rams and NFL should make a public apology.

Just so we’re clear here, the St. Louis police want the Rams and NFL to apologize for players exercising their right to self-expression, but Darren Wilson doesn’t have to apologize for killing a kid; typical cop logic.

In an interesting twist, it turns out Roorda is a disgraced ex-cop that was fired for misconduct in 2001. He was fired from the Arnold, Missouri police department for misconduct after having been warned previously about lying after he was found to have lied in a police report to cover for fellow officers, according to Raw Story.

According to court documents, Roorda attempted to:


“…try to ‘cover for another police officer by filing a report that contained false statements as to what happened during a suspect’s apprehension and arrest. As a result of this false report, all charges against the defendant were dropped.”

The court went on to say, Roorda was told, “If it is ever determined again that you have lied in a police report, you will receive a more severe punishment, up to and including termination.”

(I wonder how many innocent people are in prison because of the lies this guy may have told over the years. - AF)

Roorda, who was later elected to the Missouri House of Representatives, worked to make Missouri law less transparent in regards to police activity by introducing an amendment that would “prevent the public from obtaining ‘any records and documents pertaining to police shootings’ … if they contain the name of any officer who did the shooting,” according to MissouriWatchdog.org. The action would have covered officers that weren’t even on duty when they committed a shooting.

If Roorda had his way, no one would be able to even find out which cops are shooting citizens unless they were actually criminally charged, which we all know rarely ever happens.

He attempted to roll back the Sunshine laws that provide transparency and accountability for police officers to the public they serve. He was also one of the main proponents fighting to not allow body and dash cams on officers stating,


“Instead of the cameras being there to protect the officers, they get disciplined for petty stuff constantly — for violating the uniform code, or rolling through a stop sign for an urgent call, or for not turning the camera on. That’s one of the hottest issues for my guys. They’re tired of the nitpicking, and that’s what the cameras have been used to do.”

It was also revealed that Roorda was one of the biggest fundraisers for Darren Wilson, who received over $500,000 in donations.

So lets recap, Roorda has been terminated as a cop, proven to lie to protect fellow officers, wants less accountability for officers, uses his political position to attempt to stop officers from having to wear body cams and was one of the largest fundraisers for Darren Wilson.

This doesn’t sound like someone who cares in the least about the public, but rather is simply a police lackey that is a major proponent of the ever-expanding police state and who doesn’t want officers held accountable for their actions.

He has lied to cover for other cops, pushed legislation to roll back Sunshine laws and fought against the use of cams on cops. Let’s be honest, after seeing Roorda’s disgraceful record, does anyone really care what Roorda and the SLPOA thinks about football players expressing solidarity with protesters or the Brown family?

[LibertyEagle]

http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/2014-10-26-Hands-Up.jpg

[Christian Liberty]

You know, I gotta agree with this 100%.

We don't get to pick what the propaganda organs decide to sensationalize.

The fact remains that an unarmed man was shot dead by cops under suspicious circumstances, again.

This is a teaching moment not only wrt to the out of control cops, but the police state in general and the government run propaganda organs aka the "mainstream media".

Two things.

One thing: What actually happened is murky here. Its realistically possible that Wilson was in fact justified. But even if he wasn't, there's another fact that's even more important:

A lot of the protesters are looting PRIVATE BUSINESSES. That makes them morons worthy of nothing but contempt. Looting government buildings? OK, at least that connects to the probem. Private businesses? No.

If Brown is going to become the face of the anti-police brutality movement, its going to be very easy for cop-supporters to dismiss it.

[Anti Federalist]

Two things.

One thing: What actually happened is murky here. Its realistically possible that Wilson was in fact justified. But even if he wasn't, there's another fact that's even more important:

A lot of the protesters are looting PRIVATE BUSINESSES. That makes them morons worthy of nothing but contempt. Looting government buildings? OK, at least that connects to the probem. Private businesses? No.

If Brown is going to become the face of the anti-police brutality movement, its going to be very easy for cop-supporters to dismiss it.

Yeah I hope that doesn't end up being the case.

But what was happening in Ferguson was not happening in a vacuum.

[Mani]

Ex-Cop with History of Lying to Protect Crooked Cops Wants Rams Players Punished for Free Speech

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ex-cop-history-lying-protect-crooked-cops-rams-players-punished-free-speech/#C2uvghXQF1jAlFF4.99

St. Louis, Mo. – Sunday afternoon Rams players Stedman Baily, Tavon Austion, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt entered the football field with the “hands up, don’t shoot” gesture as a means of showing solidarity with the Brown family and the Ferguson community.

This bold political statement by the players was immediately condemned by the St. Louis Police Officers Association (SPLOA). The group released a statement on Sunday evening labeling the players exercising of their First Amendment rights as, “tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.”

Jeff Roorda, the SPLAO Business Manager, went on to say in the statement that the players need to be disciplined, and that the Rams and NFL should make a public apology.

Just so we’re clear here, the St. Louis police want the Rams and NFL to apologize for players exercising their right to self-expression, but Darren Wilson doesn’t have to apologize for killing a kid; typical cop logic.




I love the fact that this guys actually mentions the players are using their first amendment rights in one sentence, and then says they need to be disciplined for it in the next sentence. And then warned cops might use their 1st amendment right as well.

That is just so fucking awesome how fucked in the head this guy is, that's complete psycho cop mentality right there.

Hey! You used your right to free speech!!! AND I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, SO YOU NEED to be disciplined!



The fact cops get away with a lot of shit and still remain cops, and this guy is an EX-COP might give you an idea on how many times this guy crossed the line on protecting and serving the public.

Boy oh boy, this guy definitely has "Public must embrace COP HERO WORSHIP or be punished" syndrome.

[Mani]

Two things.

One thing: What actually happened is murky here. Its realistically possible that Wilson was in fact justified. But even if he wasn't, there's another fact that's even more important:

A lot of the protesters are looting PRIVATE BUSINESSES. That makes them morons worthy of nothing but contempt. Looting government buildings? OK, at least that connects to the probem. Private businesses? No.

If Brown is going to become the face of the anti-police brutality movement, its going to be very easy for cop-supporters to dismiss it.



AGREED he's a shitty face for the movement. Baby Bou or others are a lot better. AND AGREED it's very easy for cop-supporters to dismiss it. But at this point, I believe it's easy for cop-supporters to DISMISS ANYTHING or ANY CIRCUMSTANCE NO MATTER HOW CRAZY IT IS.


They dismissed blowing up baby bou, and blamed the parents. They said, "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." They justified the 12 year old kid at the park with a bb gun getting drive by killed by the cops. The kid was dead on the ground before the police car was even stopped. They will dismiss a kid shot for holding a Wii remote, or a man with a garden hose and on and on.

THE cop-supporters will DISMISS IT ALL.

But we shouldn't focus on COP-SUPPORTERS, but the general public that's in the middle. The reason this is still a valid issue is maybe you can grab the attention of a person who has no clue that police kill, beat, and shoot dogs like psycho paths at an alarming rate. Brown isn't a great face for the movement, but maybe just maybe you can grab the attention of someone and point to them that BROWN IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. And you can mention Mariem Carey, and Baby Bou, Kelly Thomas and the thousands of other dead nobodies that don't get any media attention.

[Christian Liberty]

AGREED he's a shitty face for the movement. Baby Bou or others are a lot better. AND AGREED it's very easy for cop-supporters to dismiss it. But at this point, I believe it's easy for cop-supporters to DISMISS ANYTHING or ANY CIRCUMSTANCE NO MATTER HOW CRAZY IT IS.


They dismissed blowing up baby bou, and blamed the parents. They said, "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." They justified the 12 year old kid at the park with a bb gun getting drive by killed by the cops. The kid was dead on the ground before the police car was even stopped. They will dismiss a kid shot for holding a Wii remote, or a man with a garden hose and on and on.

THE cop-supporters will DISMISS IT ALL.

But we shouldn't focus on COP-SUPPORTERS, but the general public that's in the middle. The reason this is still a valid issue is maybe you can grab the attention of a person who has no clue that police kill, beat, and shoot dogs like psycho paths at an alarming rate. Brown isn't a great face for the movement, but maybe just maybe you can grab the attention of someone and point to them that BROWN IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. And you can mention Mariem Carey, and Baby Bou, Kelly Thomas and the thousands of other dead nobodies that don't get any media attention.

It depends on how we define "cop-supporter".

The hardcore pro-cop supporting fascist will never be convinced. On the other hand, a moderate "few bad apples" type might be able to be convinced with evidence. Michael Brown is not good evidence.

Really, though, its not the pragmatic issues that make me not want to use Brown. I'm not afraid of what people will think. Its just that I'm not convinced that Brown actually was a victim of police brutality. If he wasn't, yet we claim him as one, the liberal idiots will be like "see, told ya so."

[JK/SEA]

geez...look...Brown's case was only brought to light BECAUSE his body was left bleeding in the middle of the street for nearly 5 hours.

A sane person would be thinking...'gee, that ain't right'...because it isn't. Now we have Brown as a poster child for the Police State protests, and calls of racism, and frankly, i agree with whats been the aftermath on this.

[Ender]

geez...look...Brown's case was only brought to light BECAUSE his body was left bleeding in the middle of the street for nearly 5 hours.

A sane person would be thinking...'gee, that ain't right'...because it isn't. Now we have Brown as a poster child for the Police State protests, and calls of racism, and frankly, i agree with whats been the aftermath on this.

As do I.

As I said earlier on this thread- don't like it? Then get your butt out there and support something. At least this kind of BS is being brought into the light.

[AuH20]

geez...look...Brown's case was only brought to light BECAUSE his body was left bleeding in the middle of the street for nearly 5 hours.

A sane person would be thinking...'gee, that ain't right'...because it isn't. Now we have Brown as a poster child for the Police State protests, and calls of racism, and frankly, i agree with whats been the aftermath on this.

I think it had more to do with fomenting a further racial divide and making the case for a more intrusive government. What did we immediately hear after the shooting? Oh yeah. We need more black cops.

[oyarde]

I got an ad for a range finder at the bottom of the thread .Nothing like the net and word association .

[JK/SEA]

I think it had more to do with fomenting a further racial divide and making the case for a more intrusive government. What did we immediately hear after the shooting? Oh yeah. We need more black cops.


the racial divide as you put it, seems to get momentum when a white cop kills a black kid/man for questionable reasons. As is the usual case. The call for black cops comes from the 'other' side, and is not really an answer. The answer is in how cops are trained, and the locker room hoo rah bullshit that their unions foment......policy mantra, and 'officer safety' extremism...

[AuH20]

Thomas Sowell on the absurd 'Hands Ups' rallying cry. It's funny how human beings must twist something to be black or white in order to fit with their views. The Michael Brown case had many grays for both sides, but that is inconsequential for some.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/12/02/thomas_sowell_on_hands_up_dont_shoot_ferguson_slog an_i_thought_of_joseph_goebbels.html


THOMAS SOWELL, ECONOMIST: Oh, for political reasons. I thought of Joseph Goebbels' doctrine, people will believe any lie if it's repeated often enough and loud enough. They're repeating it often enough and loud enough. And it will pay off for them personally and politically. People who are out to forward their political careers say and do things that have no relationship whatever to reality or to anybody else's interests but their own. I think what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, it is going to adversely affect blacks yet unborn who will still be paying the price for it 10, 20 years from now because you're not going to have businesses there that you had before. I've seen this happen in other cities. Detroit, is a classic example. Harlem. You run through the whole list of them. A city doesn't get over this kind of stuff in a few years.

[AuH20]

Thomas Sowell on the absurd 'Hands Ups' rallying cry. It's funny how human beings must twist something to be black or white in order to align with their narrow views. The Michael Brown case had many grays for both sides, but that is inconsequential for some.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/12/02/thomas_sowell_on_hands_up_dont_shoot_ferguson_slog an_i_thought_of_joseph_goebbels.html


THOMAS SOWELL, ECONOMIST: Oh, for political reasons. I thought of Joseph Goebbels' doctrine, people will believe any lie if it's repeated often enough and loud enough. They're repeating it often enough and loud enough. And it will pay off for them personally and politically. People who are out to forward their political careers say and do things that have no relationship whatever to reality or to anybody else's interests but their own. I think what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, it is going to adversely affect blacks yet unborn who will still be paying the price for it 10, 20 years from now because you're not going to have businesses there that you had before. I've seen this happen in other cities. Detroit, is a classic example. Harlem. You run through the whole list of them. A city doesn't get over this kind of stuff in a few years.

[JK/SEA]

Thomas Sowell on the absurd 'Hands Ups' rallying cry. It's funny how human beings must twist something to be black or white in order to align with their narrow views. The Michael Brown case had many grays for both sides, but that is inconsequential for some.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/12/02/thomas_sowell_on_hands_up_dont_shoot_ferguson_slog an_i_thought_of_joseph_goebbels.html

so, you're not really 'on-board' with this Police State awareness program we have here in RPF then.

You seem to be denying this incident in Ferguson is shining the light on the Police State that is getting worse...ok...got it.

[AuH20]

so, you're not really 'on-board' with this Police State awareness program we have here in RPF then.

You seem to be denying this incident in Ferguson is shining the light on the Police State that is getting worse...ok...got it.

I'm not sure you can differentiate between the crystal clear violations displayed in the James Boyd shooting and this very disputable Michael Brown shooting, which earlier showed Brown to be an aggressor. This Brown case has more to do about the personal failings of Mr. Brown than the encroaching presence of the police state. Don't conflate the two as much as you would like.

[JK/SEA]

I'm not sure you can differentiate between the crystal clear violations displayed in the James Boyd shooting and this very disputable Michael Brown shooting, which earlier showed Brown to be an aggressor. This Brown case has more to do about the personal failings of Mr. Brown than the encroaching presence of the police state. Don't conflate the two as much as you would like.

i disagree with that.

because it matters. Perception and public opinion matter, integrity matters, honor matters, the Constitution matters, Browns life mattered. He didn't deserve a death sentence in my opinion.

And i realize some in here are happy that another big black thug was murdered by the State over false perceptions. Go figure.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Thomas Sowell on the absurd 'Hands Ups' rallying cry. It's funny how human beings must twist something to be black or white in order to align with their narrow views. The Michael Brown case had many grays for both sides, but that is inconsequential for some.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/12/02/thomas_sowell_on_hands_up_dont_shoot_ferguson_slog an_i_thought_of_joseph_goebbels.html

Sowell references historical rioting cases, suggesting that those riots were responsible for the decay of those communities. However, cities like Detroit and Harlem (what Sowell mentions) were already well in decline by the time those riots took place in the 1960s.

No, what damaged those cities and what will continue to haunt Ferguson in the long run is the police continuing to have their power unchecked.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I'm not sure you can differentiate between the crystal clear violations displayed in the James Boyd shooting and this very disputable Michael Brown shooting, which earlier showed Brown to be an aggressor. This Brown case has more to do about the personal failings of Mr. Brown than the encroaching presence of the police state. Don't conflate the two as much as you would like.

The Brown case has everything to do with the police state because it highlights the issue of one cop acting as judge, jury, and executioner. Regardless of what type of person Brown was, Wilson's actions were completely unjust.

[AuH20]

i disagree with that.

because it matters. Perception and public opinion matter, integrity matters, honor matters, the Constitution matters, Browns life mattered. He didn't deserve a death sentence in my opinion.

And i realize some in here are happy that another big black thug was murdered by the State over false perceptions. Go figure.

Happy? I would say everyone must choose their own path as a human being. We can't hold their hands. Unfortunately, Mr. Brown chose poorly. Now that's not to say that Wilson may have not exceeded his powers as a law enforcement officer.

[surf]

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/st-louis-rams-police-disagree-apology-players-ferguson/story?id=27295696

A St. Louis Rams official reached out to local police Monday, a day after five players from the team entered their home field with their arms raised in support for nearby Ferguson, drawing the ire of law enforcement.

But Rams Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff and police officials disagree over whether Demoff’s efforts amounted to an apology.

Demoff says he did not apologize for the players’ actions.

"In those conversations, I expressed regret that players actions were construed negatively against law enforcement," Demoff told ESPN.com.

"At no time in any of the conversations did I apologize for the actions of our players," Demoff added. "[The Rams] do believe it is possible to support both our players' first amendment rights and the efforts of local law enforcement to make this a better community."



Police Officers Association 'Profoundly Disappointed' by St. Louis Rams Players' Display





Darren Wilson Resigns From Ferguson Police Force





Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson Confident Federal Probe Will Clear Him Too



Demoff’s statement was spurned by St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar, who sent an email to staff Monday, alerting them of Demoff’s “apology.”

“I received a very nice call this morning from Mr. Kevin Demoff of the St. Louis Rams who wanted to take the opportunity to apologize to our department on behalf of the Rams for the ‘Hands Up’ gesture that some players took the field with yesterday,” the email reads.

“Mr. Demoff clearly regretted that any members of the Ram's organization would act in a way that minimized the outstanding work that police officers and departments carry out each and every day. My impression of the call was that it was heartfelt and I assured him that I would share it with my staff.”

St. Louis police issued their own account after Demoff’s statement.

“Chief Belmar was contacted today by St. Louis Rams COO Kevin Demoff. The Chief never asked for anyone from the Rams to contact him. He said the conversation was pleasant. The Chief sent an email to his police staff and used the word ‘apologized.’ Mr. Demoff is quoted in the St. Louis Post Dispatch story saying, ‘I expressed to both of them that I felt badly that our players' support of the community was taken as disrespectful to law enforcement.’ He further stated ‘I regretted any offense the officer’s may have taken.’

“Even though Mr. Demoff stated he never apologized, the Chief believed it to be an apology and the Chief sent the email to police staff to let them know about the call, after he told Mr. Demoff he would share his sentiments with his staff.”

St. Louis County Police used Twitter to define the word “apology.”






The apology – or non-apology, depending on whom you ask – concerned players Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Stedman Bailey, Chris Givens and Tavon Austin, who stopped near the tunnel Sunday and raised their hands during introductions before the team’s 52-0 win against the Raiders, acknowledging the fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson Aug. 9 with a “hands up, don’t shoot” gesture. A grand jury declined to bring charges against Wilson, sparking renewed protests in the St. Louis suburb.

Britt claimed that he and his teammates were not "taking sides" with their display.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Regardless of what Rams OFFICIALS said to the police, the players have refused to apologize and that's all that matters. I'd also like to add that I'm impressed with Jeff Fisher not taking the "no comment" approach and instead defending his players' freedom of speech.

[AuH20]

Regardless of what Rams OFFICIALS said to the police, the players have refused to apologize and that's all that matters. I'd also like to add that I'm impressed with Jeff Fisher not taking the "no comment" approach and instead defending his players' freedom of speech.

Under their first amendment rights, they can do whatever they please. That's what matters at the end of the day.

[JK/SEA]

Happy? I would say everyone must choose their own path as a human being. We can't hold their hands. Unfortunately, Mr. Brown chose poorly. Now that's not to say that Wilson may have not exceeded his powers as a law enforcement officer.


damn, well i as a young lad i did some shoplifting once, and i also used to walk down the middle of streets. I'm now retired, wife, 2 kids, i've done well...too bad Big Mike won't get the same chance i had. Makes me wonder why...

[JK/SEA]

so who in here is going to start putting your hands up when you spot a cop?....sounds like a new movement springing up. Hope it goes viral as they say...

[Ender]

Happy? I would say everyone must choose their own path as a human being. We can't hold their hands. Unfortunately, Mr. Brown chose poorly. Now that's not to say that Wilson may have not exceeded his powers as a law enforcement officer.

BS.

You know nothing about Brown except a store video that shows he might have stolen cigars or might have paid for them. Funny how the store owner never called the cops on this, not to mention that Wilson had no knowledge of it either.

But somehow it serves your personal interests to call Brown a thug and make lighter of his death because he wasn't "perfect" in your eyes. I bet Kelly Thomas wasn't perfect either but HE is somehow different. Miriam Carey probably had a few imperfections as well- but her driving the wrong way is oh so much more innocent than Brown's jaywalking. :rolleyes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJbqKLcCjp4

[BV2]

These players are subject to the same media machine as all of us. If they seem not to care about Kelly Thomas, it is likely because they have not heard of him. I, for one, don't care about Mike Brown's past, just that he was gunned down by a badge. A badge that, for some reason, puts them that wear it outside the sanction of the law.

[Weston White]

“Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours.”

…I just hope that he is not implying to mean that they are planning to carry out the exercising of their First Amendment “rights” similarly as to how they have being carrying out the exercising of their Second Amendment “rights” in the course of their confrontations with the public. Otherwise, I would have to think he (as a ranking member of a fully armed and equipped class of paid governmental avengers—e.g., mercenaries by federal proxy) has just threatened fear, uncertainty, and terrorism against society as a whole and therefore he should be prosecuted by the DOJ to the fullest extent of the law—just as they have been doing against so many others how had also made such vague, innocuous, or otherwise non-direct statements of indignation against committed lawlessness by law enforcement personnel as a class.

You know a medical inside joke used to be calling surgeons (or doctors) “007” as they literally have a license to kill, I suppose that it is only appropriate that such an insidious title be expanded to include armed law enforcement personnel.

Goodness, they are now actually pathetic enough to publicly express their distain of private citizens exercising their right of uncomplacent, indifference towards them as a processional class? So, imagine that citizens are beginning to resist acquiescing to the hyper-militarization of police and their excessively aggressive tactical responses to by and large minor infractions …And such law enforcement “professionals” are actually shocked and dismayed about this? Is this actually not a very good thing? Is this not indicative that perhaps there is hope for Americans after all? Is it so inappropriate for citizens to stand in opposition to blatantly obvious miscarriages of justice?

Really though is there any real surprise here? Roorda, so brazenly calling for prohibition and punishment against those private individuals expressing their rights to speech in a wholly responsible—albeit highly noticeable—manner, while simultaneously placing an implied greater importance upon his own “rights” as a public institution of authoritarianism. Gee, selfish much?

However, no, as public servants (i.e., that is within that capacity as governmental employees), this including Roorda, they are each beholden and fully accountable to society; further, his speech is limited to refraining from debating politics and the like within a professional capacity, to do so Roorda and associates violates the local municipal codes and departmental Bluebook policies of his agency and city or county and could be administratively disciplined for such missteps.

[parocks]

The detractors would love to see it become a distraction.

St. Louis 52 Oakland 0


Oakland is having a horrible year, but beating any pro team that bad is pretty good. Maybe the hand raising display actually helped the Rams.

Not related to the game, but whites in Oakland wearing masks were looting / robbing stores.

Raider OC Greg Olson saw the protest and said "I'm going to pass every 3rd down, fail to get the 1st down, and punt" in solidarity.

[Mani]

St. Louis PD INSIST they received an apology. Talk about having a bug up their ass about getting an apology. WTF. Their Tweet is so he said/she said middle school girl its fucking ridiculous.



So the Rams people call up the police chief to try and smooth things over. The Chief starts telling everyone the Rams apologized for their players actions.....Except the Rams NEVER apologized. And the Cops get bent out of shape trying to prove they got an apology. Very immature but what do you expect from bullies who need to justify their actions?

http://www.business2community.com/sports/st-louis-police-retract-apology-claims-rams-arent-sorry-check-passive-aggressive-follow-tweet-01085176