Jack Hunter uses Rand Paul 2016 Page to defend Ferguson Protestors

[Okaloosa]

https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679377555510779?notif_t=notify_me

They are going off on Rand and all think he posted this. These are people that liked the page that are turned off by Rare.us and Jack Hunter one of the editors at Rare.us making money off of web clicks and admin for the facebook page trying to make money off of the Rand Paul name.

Please go there and straighten these people out so they know this is from the rare website not Rand Paul.

https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679377555510779?notif_t=notify_me

[cajuncocoa]

But Rand wants to work with Jack Hunter. I'm just a pesky, fringy, conspiracy-theorizing, libertarian....what do I know? Rand needs to take care of that himself.

[Okaloosa]

Top comments, please let them know that this is not Rand despite Jack Hunter wanting them to think otherwise.

"This is one case where Rand Paul is absolutely WRONG!"

"Protestors? Oh, you mean looters right? Because that's all I'm seeing..."

"Rand, I love you but how do I listen to someone who steals the fruits of an innocent shop owners labor because they are pissed off?"

"Damn I liked Rand, then he posts some liberal bullshit like this. Another left winger pretending to love America, and I supported you hardcore until this..."

"Rand, I have lost all respect for you."

"I like you Ran but you are full of shit on this. You sound like Jessie Jackson race baiting on this one. It is called self responsibility........... can't blame others for your own laziness"

"I'm sorry, Rand, I love you and what you stand for, but you're wrong here. It's almost 2015. We're past all that. It's time to stop committing crimes, white or black, as to expect the police to leave you alone. The answer is to stop having violent altercations with police."

"Are you fucking kidding me? Sounds like Rand Paul will say ANYTHING in order to try to get part of the black vote. Adios, Rand; you just lost another white voter because you're rationalizing the fact that more blacks are in prison; because more blacks DESERVE to be in prison because of their crimes. I'll be campaigning for Rand's opponent in a couple of years because of this asshattery of a quote."

"I think you've lost my vote, you're not too bright and your political correctness is disturbing"

"I am watching them riot and loot and now burning buildings and shooting at police. Rand is not as smart as I thought he was. Everyone should have to obey the law. No group no matter how much they whine should be above the law."

"Are you high??????"

"Rand should have not posted this one"

"Whoever runs this site...SHUT THE HELL UP!"

[Brett85]

Good grief, Jack Hunter is an idiot.

[phill4paul]

Hunter, Collins and Benton.

Any of these asshats involved w/ Rand signals to me that I am out.

[Brett85]

Well, it's taking a while to undo all of Jack's damage.

[Brett85]

Well, that was exhausting. That page really needs to be taken down.

[fr33]

I don't even disagree with what he's saying but it's fuckin annoying how people like him ride on Rand's coattails. He's obviously fooling people into thinking it's Rand's page.

[Occam's Banana]

https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679377555510779?notif_t=notify_me

They are going off on Rand and all think he posted this. These are people that liked the page that are turned off by Rare.us and Jack Hunter one of the editors at Rare.us making money off of web clicks and admin for the facebook page trying to make money off of the Rand Paul name.

Please go there and straighten these people out so they know this is from the rare website not Rand Paul.

https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679377555510779?notif_t=notify_me

I actually read the article - and there's NOT ONE GODDAM THING WRONG WITH IT.

It is absolutely, dead-center spot on - and I can't imagine how Rand would disagree with it one bit.

In fact, it's one of the best articles - maybe THE best article - I've read about the issue.

+rep to Jack Hunter for writing it - and fuck all the assholes who are bitching and whining about it.

If those fucktards are the kind of people whose sensibilities have to be pandered to, then to hell with it ...

Here's Hunter's article: http://rare.us/story/why-it-is-so-important-for-white-americans-to-listen-to-the-protesters-in-missouri/

And here's the full text of the facebook entry:

"Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them." - Rand Paul, Aug 14, 2014

[picture of peaceful protestors]

Why it is so important for white Americans to listen to the protestors in Missouri

Even if you don't agree with them.

[jmdrake]

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[Bergie Bergeron]

That's like Ron Paul's newsletters all over again.

Flag the post to Facebook.

[phill4paul]

I actually read the article - and there's NOT ONE GODDAM THING WRONG WITH IT.

It is absolutely, dead-center spot on - and I can't imagine how Rand would disagree with it one bit.

In fact, it's one of the best articles - maybe THE best article - I've read about the issue.

+rep to Jack Hunter for writing it - and fuck all the assholes who are bitching and whining about it.

If those fucktards are the kind of people whose sensibilities have to be pandered to, then to hell with it ...

Here's Hunter's article: http://rare.us/story/why-it-is-so-important-for-white-americans-to-listen-to-the-protesters-in-missouri/

And here's the full text of the facebook entry:

I wasn't commenting on the article in post #5. I was just posting my general feeling about Hunter. He's an asshole trying to save his political career as far as I am concerned. Perhaps this is a good article and he is trying to correct a bad image and wants to simply walk away from politics in good standing.
I will re-iterate. If Hunter is in I'm out.
Don't care what he has to say anymore.

[jmdrake]

That's like Ron Paul's newsletters all over again.

Flag the post to Facebook.

Actually its the opposite of the newsletters. The newsletters were anonymous and perceived as racist. This article is not anonymous and no one would accuse it of being racist. Also most commentators seem to mistakenly think it was just written. This was written months ago when Ferguson was still new and the protests were still peaceful.

[alucard13mm]

It was a matter of time before these rand paul fan pages post something bad and puts off the voter base.

[Rudeman]

That's like Ron Paul's newsletters all over again.

Flag the post to Facebook.

Not really. The facebook page has no affiliation with Rand (other than using his name and image). It would be similar to blaming Ron for things posted on this forum or one of the many other websites that used his name as part of the domain. In the about it even states that it is unofficial.

[Czolgosz]

Lol @ Humans

[jmdrake]

Okay. I'm no Jack Hunter fan. But he did nothing wrong here. The quote that has the jackasses mad is from Rand Paul himself!

“Big government has been at the heart of the problem,” Mr. Paul wrote. “Washington has incentivized the militarization of local police precincts by using federal dollars to help municipal governments build what are essentially small armies—where police departments compete to acquire military gear that goes far beyond what most of Americans think of as law enforcement.”

The criticism of police power by Mr. Paul and Mr. Amash put them in a strange-bedfellow alliance with liberals and African Americans who have been protesting the handling of the Michael Brown shooting and the forceful police response to street demonstrations.

Mr. Paul put the issue into a broader context of issues like government surveillance and limits on civil liberties that have also seen an alliance between liberals and libertarians in recent years.

Mr. Paul, who has also tried to reach out to African American audiences in an effort to broaden his party’s appeal, also saw the episode as linked to racial inequities in the criminal justice system.

“It is almost impossible for many Americans not to feel like their government is targeting them,” said Mr. Paul. “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

“Anyone who thinks that race does not still, even if inadvertently, skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention.”

Mr. Paul’s comments also served as a response to Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas, who earlier had practically dared him –as well as conservative Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) — to join the criticism of the police response because of his libertarian ideology.

“I’m sure that Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are going speak up for the liberty and freedom of the ppl of Ferguson against govt overreach soon,” Mr. Castro said on Twitter.

[philipped]

Why he tryna post his shit on a Rand Paul page?????? Isn't this dude who got dropped after they found out he's the Southern Avenger? He needs to go be in the cut somewhere smh. Still a good article, still Rand was spot on.

I'm pretty let down that the conservatives and "libertarians" I follow from Twitter were pro-Wilson AND disregarding and racial element to the entire thing, I've made it clear everyone had to when looking at the Ferguson thing fairly but to act as if it's not a factor is just as ignorant as assuming it was the only factor in the matter to me at least. Not one tweet or comment last night about the real issue where big govt. is involved..........demilitarizing the police.

[Bergie Bergeron]

It's not the time or the place to do this kind of education. People were emotional, the storm of negative comments were highly predictable.

[Peace&Freedom]

Okay. I'm no Jack Hunter fan. But he did nothing wrong here. The quote that has the jackasses mad is from Rand Paul himself!

[i]“Big government has been at the heart of the problem,” Mr. Paul wrote. “Washington has incentivized the militarization of local police precincts by using federal dollars to help municipal governments build what are essentially small armies—where police departments compete to acquire military gear that goes far beyond what most of Americans think of as law enforcement.”

Hunter did nothing wrong, and it's the same old story. The Paul revolution started as a perfect example of almost spontaneous voluntary self-organization of liberty-minded people of different stripes. This grassroots network respected the existing liberty movement that led to it, and mutual tolerance was exercised by supporters for its multiple facets. But then the protectors/controllers rolled in and demanded 'respectability,' or marginalizing, demeaning or expunging all elements of the movement that were not considered helpful to Paul.

In practice, this gave the protector faction a blank check to denounce every expression of liberty they didn't like, or wasn't thought to be in line with the Pauls or their campaigns/projects. PaulFest? "Fringe elements." Truthers? "Extremists." Kokesh? "Irresponsible." Hunter? "How dare he talk abut race, without clearance from central command?" Jones? "All of the above." And so on, and on, into the Rand campaign cycle.

[jmdrake]

Why he tryna post his shit on a Rand Paul page?????? Isn't this dude who got dropped after they found out he's the Southern Avenger? He needs to go be in the cut somewhere smh. Still a good article, still Rand was spot on.

I'm pretty let down that the conservatives and "libertarians" I follow from Twitter were pro-Wilson AND disregarding and racial element to the entire thing, I've made it clear everyone had to when looking at the Ferguson thing fairly but to act as if it's not a factor is just as ignorant as assuming it was the only factor in the matter to me at least. Not one tweet or comment last night about the real issue where big govt. is involved..........demilitarizing the police.

He (Jack Hunter) didn't post it. At least not from what I can tell. Rand Paul made a statement that's 100% true but some fake "tea party" types can't handle. Jack Hunter wrote an article expressing the same sentiment. Someone else posted both Rand Paul's statement and Jack Hunter's article on a Rand Paul FAN page that ANYBODY can put up and the fake tea party types are mad. Here's the deal. Rand will not win in 2016 with only the people who voted for Romney in 2012. And even if the tea party types that hated Romney so much that they stayed home came out and voted for Rand that would not be enough. Rand is trying to broaden the base by actually speaking liberty to people who don't understand it. (Black who reflexively vote democrat). Jack "Southern Avenger" Hunter got the memo and quit trying to do neo-confederate outreach and is actually trying to do the right thing. That's why I erased what I posted earlier. I realized, like it or not, Jack Hunter is right this time, and it's his critics that are clueless. Now I've got to go wash my hands 1000 times for typing that.

[erowe1]

That's like Ron Paul's newsletters all over again.

Flag the post to Facebook.

How? Isn't it the exact opposite?

The people complaining about this article would probably point to that line in the newsletters about fleet-footed negro purse snatchers and use it to tell Rand that that's the side of Ron Paul they want to see more of from him.

[jmdrake]

Hunter did nothing wrong, and it's the same old story. The Paul revolution started as perfect exmple of almost spontaneous voluntary self-organization of liberty-minded people of different stripes. This grassroots network respected the existing liberty movement that led to it, and mutual tolerance was exercised by supporters for its multiple facets. But then the protectors controllers rolled in and demanded 'respectability,' or marginalizing, demeaning or expunging all elements of the movement that were not considered helpful to Paul.

In practice, this gave the protector faction a blank check to denounce every expression of liberty they didn't like, or wasn't thought to be in line with the Pauls or their campaigns/projects. PaulFest? "Fringe elements." Truthers? "Extremists." Kokesh? "Irresponsible." Hunter? "How dare he talk abut race, without clearance from central command?" Jones? "All of the above." And so on, and on, into thr Rand campaign cycle.

Yeah. The said irony is that Jack Hunter was jumping on the "attack the fringe" bandwaggon before he got "outed" as the Southern Avenger. (It's funny that the liberal media thinks that as Jack never hid his identity and would end video after video showing his real face by saying "The Southern Avenger.") So I'm tempted to jump in and bash Jack "Don't talk about Bilderberg" Hunter but instead I find myself defending him for being victim of the same witchhunt/purge he was participated in.

[erowe1]

It's not the time or the place to do this kind of education. People were emotional, the storm of negative comments were highly predictable.

Highly predictable, and also not a bad thing for Rand politically.

[jmdrake]

How? Isn't it the exact opposite?

The people complaining about this article would probably point to that line in the newsletters about fleet-footed negro purse snatchers and use it to tell Rand that that's the side of Ron Paul they want to see more of from him.

^This! Really you simply can't please everyone.

[jmdrake]

It's not the time or the place to do this kind of education. People were emotional, the storm of negative comments were highly predictable.

The article was written a month ago. These people just noticed it now.

Edit: I'm not sure when it was posted on the FB page but it was written October 12.

[specsaregood]

They are going off on Rand and all think he posted this. These are people that liked the page that are turned off by Rare.us and Jack Hunter one of the editors at Rare.us making money off of web clicks and admin for the facebook page trying to make money off of the Rand Paul name.
Please go there and straighten these people out so they know this is from the rare website not Rand Paul.


All this hand wringing about Hunter running a website and pushing his own message using Randal's name is no different than all the handwringing that was done in Ron's race with truthers or race supremacists or codepinkers or cheney-walkouters or all the other people that you disagree with or do stuff we/you/the media doesn't like.

All the handwringing is worthless and won't make a damn bit of difference. People are gonna do whatever the hell they feel like doing. Spend the time pushing your own message instead, its more productive.

[Matt Collins]

No one knows for sure if Jack Hunter is posting to that page or not

[jmdrake]

No one knows for sure if Jack Hunter is posting to that page or not

Yeah. What I said in post #21. Besides, the Jack Hunter article is not at all out of line with the Rand Paul quote. The fake tea party type gonna be mad anyway. I'm just that both Rand and Jack realize they have to have appeal beyond "likely republican voters." ;)

[Brett85]

Maybe Rand should be contacted and told that he should ask the person who runs that page to take it down.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

And I should be mad about Hunter's article why?

[twomp]

The media does an awesome job of turning people against each other. You know it because they have been playing this thing on the T.V. non stop for the past 24 hours. Across all of the networks. As you can tell by now with ISIS and everything else. Even people on these forums are nothing but sheep for what the MSM tells them. Turn off the T.V. for a few days and let's see who is still all worked up about it? It's the media that is driving this frenzy.

[Occam's Banana]

And I should be mad about Hunter's article why?

Apparently, because the knuckle-dragging troglodyte demographic is offended by it.

[Occam's Banana]

I wasn't commenting on the article in post #5.

Yeah, I know (and FTR, I was referring to the comments on the facebook posting, not here).


I was just posting my general feeling about Hunter. [...]

I don't have any problem with Jack Hunter myself. I thought he handled that whole "fringe/conspiracy" brouhaha poorly and gracelessly - IMO, all the inflamed passions and antagonisms (on both sides) over the "CT fringe" issue are FAR more damaging than any harm that might arise from the existence of the "CT fringe" itself, and Jack ought to have just stayed away from the subject. (I am a CT "agnostic" myself.) I also didn't care for his Romney endorsement apologia, either. But despite those things, I've always rather liked him (though I understand why others might not). And he stepped up and "did the right thing" by resigning from Rand's staff when his past came back to bite. I believe his mea culpas in this regard were genuine, sincere and admirable.

But whatever one might think of Jack Hunter, getting pissed off over this particular article is just foolish and unsupportable. Hunter didn't say anything in that piece that Rand Paul might not have said himself. Which brings up an interesting question: if Rand Paul had written this article (and he easily could have, or something very much like it), would the people here who are reacting with anger and disgust about it having been posted to facebook still be doing so? Or would they instead be directing their animus where it actually belongs - with the yapping ignoramuses on FB who are pissing on "Rand" over it?

[Brian4Liberty]

But whatever one might think of Jack Hunter, getting pissed off over this particular article is just foolish and unsupportable. Hunter didn't say anything in that piece that Rand Paul might not have said himself. Which brings up an interesting question: if Rand Paul had written this article (and he easily could have, or something very much like it), would the people here who are reacting with anger and disgust about it having been posted to facebook still be doing so? Or would they instead be directing their animus where it actually belongs - with the yapping ignoramuses on FB who are pissing on "Rand" over it?

As a matter of fact, Rand did write essentially the same article today...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463737-Rand-Paul-Op-Ed-The-Politicians-Are-To-Blame-in-Ferguson

[Okaloosa]

The latest post about the parents of Michael Brown. https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679627435485791

Some of the comments include. Again please comment letting the people there know that this is not Rand Paul or anyone from his team.

"quit posting about this shit your losing voters dumbass" Most likes with 170.

" Rand Paul needs to get someone else to take over this page. Stop trying to stir the pot." With 36 likes.

" I think you need to be fired as administrator." With 30 likes.

"Were they profoundly disappointed in their son robbing a store before he got shot?"

"Rand Paul page is out of control and needs a new admin."

"Maybe if Michael Brown's parents had "the right message", Michael Brown would be alive today and a productive member of society."

"The parents are idiots. The Grand Jury looked at all the evidence, and returned no bill because of the facts of the case, not racism."

"If this page is truly about getting Rand Paul in 2016, don't editorialize with your own opinion on the Furguson situation or similar situations. Post articles related to Rand Paul or direct quotes from him. With posts like this you're dividing your audience, not uniting them behind Rand Paul."

"Oh Rand, we see you are just an ass kissing politician, like the rest!"

"You're losing a vote right now if I see another victimized brown post"

"I'm leaving this page. You're a terrible admin. Your grammar is atrocious, too. Family is singular, not plural! Rand would be outraged."

"she was calling for violence, how is that the right message? I cannot believe any republican or libertarian would defend this family. The MAN attacked a cop, the cop defended himself, end of story."

[Occam's Banana]

As a matter of fact, Rand did write essentially the same article today...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463737-Rand-Paul-Op-Ed-The-Politicians-Are-To-Blame-in-Ferguson

QED :D

[Okaloosa]

No one knows for sure if Jack Hunter is posting to that page or not

Matt please stop posting this as I have a conversation with Jack about his page that he admins. Jack Hunter is an admin and he posts almost 10 times per day with almost entirely rare.us content that he makes money off of. His attention is to promote his ideas and he also makes money doing it. He doesn't want to hurt Rand, but like government the results not the intentions are what matters, and Rand Paul is being hurt by this. I understand Rand is nontraditional and taking some chances but he should be the one with oversight over his campaign not people making a buck off his name.,

[NewRightLibertarian]

And I should be mad about Hunter's article why?

Because cops must be worshiped at all times. And if they murder someone, it's a small price to pay for 'the public good.'

[specsaregood]

The latest post about the parents of Michael Brown. https://www.facebook.com/Rand2016/posts/679627435485791

Some of the comments include. Again please comment letting the people there know that this is not Rand Paul or anyone from his team.

"quit posting about this shit your losing voters dumbass" Most likes with 170.

" Rand Paul needs to get someone else to take over this page. Stop trying to stir the pot." With 36 likes.

" I think you need to be fired as administrator." With 30 likes.

"Were they profoundly disappointed in their son robbing a store before he got shot?"

"Rand Paul page is out of control and needs a new admin."

"Maybe if Michael Brown's parents had "the right message", Michael Brown would be alive today and a productive member of society."

"The parents are idiots. The Grand Jury looked at all the evidence, and returned no bill because of the facts of the case, not racism."

"If this page is truly about getting Rand Paul in 2016, don't editorialize with your own opinion on the Furguson situation or similar situations. Post articles related to Rand Paul or direct quotes from him. With posts like this you're dividing your audience, not uniting them behind Rand Paul."

"Oh Rand, we see you are just an ass kissing politician, like the rest!"

"You're losing a vote right now if I see another victimized brown post"

"I'm leaving this page. You're a terrible admin. Your grammar is atrocious, too. Family is singular, not plural! Rand would be outraged."

"she was calling for violence, how is that the right message? I cannot believe any republican or libertarian would defend this family. The MAN attacked a cop, the cop defended himself, end of story."

Anybody that says they wont vote for Randal because of some post on facebook post was never going to vote for him anyways or is unserious enough to change their vote back to him at some later date when they post something they like.

[Brett85]

Because cops must be worshiped at all times. And if they murder someone, it's a small price to pay for 'the public good.'

No, the issue is the racial element that Jack (and Rand) are bringing into it, claiming that cops target and abuse blacks more than they do whites. It's the racial component that's being brought into it that's controversial. I don't think there would've been nearly as many angry comments if Jack had just written and posted an article critical of police abuse in general.

[Okaloosa]

Anybody that says they wont vote for Randal because of some post on facebook post was never going to vote for him anyways or is unserious enough to change their vote back to him at some later date when they post something they like.

These are also people that liked the page Rand Paul 2016. When a page posting rare.us articles almost 10 times a day with comments designed to get website clicks with divisive content sooner or later people will be put off. Once you have made a sale with it be in politics or business you stop selling so people don't change their mind. People already like Rand Paul 2016 and are then subjected to almost 10 posts a day from rare.us. You can blame them or realize that we can't be losing voters or supporters if Rand Paul is going to have any luck.

[specsaregood]

These are also people that liked the page Rand Paul 2016. When a page posting rare.us articles almost 10 times a day with comments designed to get website clicks with divisive content sooner or later people will be put off. Once you have made a sale with it be in politics or business you stop selling so people don't change their mind. People already like Rand Paul 2016 and are then subjected to almost 10 posts a day from rare.us. You can blame them or realize that we can't be losing voters or supporters if Rand Paul is going to have any luck.

right and a "like" of a facebook page is fairly meaningless. its not a donation, its not an active supporter, its quite possibly not even somebody that follows politics at all or even knows Randal isn't his father. its not a significant measure by any means. I stand by my statement, those posts shouldn't be taken any more serious than an minor annoyance. If Randal loses the election because of jack hunter running a fan facebook page, then he deserves to lose.

[NewRightLibertarian]

No, the issue is the racial element that Jack (and Rand) are bringing into it, claiming that cops target and abuse blacks more than they do whites. It's the racial component that's being brought into it that's controversial.

It's not controversial, it's widely recognized. If it ruffles the feathers of some authoritarian conservatives, too bad. This will help him with independents and disaffected Democrats.

[erowe1]

No, the issue is the racial element that Jack (and Rand) are bringing into it, claiming that cops target and abuse blacks more than they do whites.

They're bringing that into it? Like that isn't really the case? And this case isn't related to that?

[erowe1]

These are also people that liked the page Rand Paul 2016. When a page posting rare.us articles almost 10 times a day with comments designed to get website clicks with divisive content sooner or later people will be put off. Once you have made a sale with it be in politics or business you stop selling so people don't change their mind. People already like Rand Paul 2016 and are then subjected to almost 10 posts a day from rare.us. You can blame them or realize that we can't be losing voters or supporters if Rand Paul is going to have any luck.

Rand's path to victory can't be by way of being uncontroversial. He's not the presumed candidate. He's a long-shot underdog who has to keep setting himself apart from the establishment.

At the same time, he also has to put as much distance as possible between himself and the most toxic elements of his father's supporters, those being the racist ones.

[Brett85]

It's not controversial, it's widely recognized. If it ruffles the feathers of some authoritarian conservatives, too bad. This will help him with independents and disaffected Democrats.


They're bringing that into it? Like that isn't really the case? And this case isn't related to that?

I'm not really sure whether it's the case or not. I just think that police abuse is a major problem in our country, and we see reports of the police abusing people of all races every day. The focus needs to be on the police abuse and not the accusations of racism.

[FriedChicken]

Scanning this thread ...
seems most all those who disagree with the OP don't seem to think that whoever the admin is posting in first person, as if he is Rand Paul, is an issue.

The OP is 100% correct that, in politics, once you make a sell - stop selling. If Rand wants to make calculated comments, etc. on this issue that is fine with me, but on this heated of a topic I don't think anybody ought to be posting for him.

The FB post should not have been made on a page called "Rand Paul 2016", but if it was, a disclaimer saying that it wasn't Rand himself making the statement would have been nice.


Everything I've said is based on politics. I haven't read the article that was linked to, hardly anyone on facebook does before commenting.

[satchelmcqueen]

jack hunter really needs to stop posting under rands name. this is killing off support. i even stopped following that page a few months ago because of some of the posts going up.

[jmdrake]

jack hunter really needs to stop posting under rands name. this is killing off support. i even stopped following that page a few months ago because of some of the posts going up.

1) So the evidence you have that Jack Hunter is running that page is........?

2) Do you realize that the quote that has people upset is actually from Rand?

[Okaloosa]

1) So the evidence you have that Jack Hunter is running that page is........?

2) Do you realize that the quote that has people upset is actually from Rand?

I have evidence directly from him. Second I follow every post from them and they rarely post quotes by Rand and just after the riots they posted a previous quote giving people the impression Rand was defending violent riots.

[jmdrake]

I have evidence directly from him. Second I follow every post from them and they rarely post quotes by Rand and just after the riots they posted a previous quote giving people the impression Rand was defending violent riots.

I stand corrected.

[twomp]

I'm not really sure whether it's the case or not. I just think that police abuse is a major problem in our country, and we see reports of the police abusing people of all races every day. The focus needs to be on the police abuse and not the accusations of racism.

Why are there more minorities in jail than white people then? Minorities just commit more crimes than whites do in your eyes?

[DevilsAdvocate]

This web page is a scandal waiting to happen. Rand needs to act on this, I'm very surprised he hasn't already.

[DevilsAdvocate]

And I should be mad about Hunter's article why?

Because the Facebook page is using Rand's name and image to get clicks for their website, making themselves money. The best way to get clicks is to post inflammatory stuff that generates a lot of controversy.

Even if they are agreeing with Rand, they are deliberately presenting his ideas in an inflammatory way to make money. A large majority of the people following that page have no idea it isn't Rand, and it doesn't help that many of the posts are in first person

[satchelmcqueen]

1) So the evidence you have that Jack Hunter is running that page is........?

2) Do you realize that the quote that has people upset is actually from Rand?
well ive read here many times that JH is the one running it and posting to it. is this not true? if not please show me the real story. ty

[satchelmcqueen]

This web page is a scandal waiting to happen. Rand needs to act on this, I'm very surprised he hasn't already.

words

[Anti Federalist]

No one knows for sure if Jack Hunter is posting to that page or not

Well, isn't that your self appointed position?

Riding herd over the great unwashed?

Get goin' son!

[jmdrake]

well ive read here many times that JH is the one running it and posting to it. is this not true? if not please show me the real story. ty

I spoke too soon and acknowledged my mistake. See post #52.

[Brett85]

Why are there more minorities in jail than white people then? Minorities just commit more crimes than whites do in your eyes?

Isn't that pretty obvious when you watch the riots in Ferguson?

[Brett85]

I'm not saying that's the entire reason and that there's no racial bias in the criminal justice system at all, but minorities certainly commit more crimes than whites.

[kcchiefs6465]

Why are there more minorities in jail than white people then? Minorities just commit more crimes than whites do in your eyes?


Isn't that pretty obvious when you watch the riots in Ferguson?
No, it is not. Could you please explain in more detail?

[erowe1]

Isn't that pretty obvious when you watch the riots in Ferguson?

I haven't watched them. Not sure why anyone would.

Do they look like these other riots?
https://storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots

[Brett85]

No, it is not. Could you please explain in more detail?


I haven't watched them. Not sure why anyone would.

Do they look like these other riots?
https://storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots

Never mind. I guess you can't point out facts on this issue without being accused of being a racist. I think I'll just bow out of this conversation.

[kcchiefs6465]

Never mind. I guess you can't point out facts on this issue without being accused of being a racist. I think I'll just bow out of this conversation.
Why was I quoted with what Erowe1 wrote?

I simply asked if you wouldn't mind adding some detail to one of your replies.

It was a short, simple sentence that implied people would know what you were referring to if they looked at the riots in Ferguson. I do not. Please provide a little more detail as to what, precisely, you are talking about.

[Okaloosa]

The official Rand Paul Facebook Page with 1.8 Million likes has posted an article about the police killing a man's son written by politico.com. This article and the topic of police brutality and murder is an unpopular topic and in my opinion will lose more voters than gain. This was done by the official page and not someone making money so I'm not upset about it. If you want to show Rand your support please comment at the link, and select get notifications on Rand Paul's page at the like button.

https://www.facebook.com/RandPaul/posts/10152665896696107