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SeanTX
11-21-2014, 09:29 AM
Officer safety was ensured, and the guy had been arrested 24 times -- so he obviously deserved it due to his past record.

An unarmed guy, committing no crime, killed by police because he startled them? There won't be any riots over that ...

Hopefully the cops at least suffered permanent hearing loss -- probably the only negative consequence they'll suffer. Though the rookie might get fired ...



http://nypost.com/2014/11/21/police-fatally-shoot-man-in-brooklyn-building/




A rookie cop fatally shot an unarmed man inside a Brooklyn housing project late Thursday, authorities said.

The cop and his partner, also a rookie, were descending from a dimly lit eighth-floor stairwell at the Pink Houses at 2724 Linden Boulevard about 11:15 p.m. The 28-year-old victim, Akai Gurley, entered from the seventh floor with his girlfriend, startling the cops, police sources said.

The cop fired one shot into Gurley’s chest. He stumbled down to the fifth floor where he collapsed, sources said.

The girlfriend, Melissa Butler, 26, is distraught, her mother said.

“She keeps crying,” said Naomi Butler. “She’s very upset, she saw everything. Police shot him and we don’t know why. He doesn’t carry any firearms. He was just going back home, they were taking the stairs. He’s a nice man. He’s been together with my daughter for four years. He has one daughter as far as I know.”

snip

The victim has been arrested 24 times and has done time behind bars, sources said.

Both officers were treated for tinnitus at Jamaica Hospital, authorities said.

snip

aGameOfThrones
11-21-2014, 09:39 AM
only cops should have guns.




"Why did this heinous act of violence take place?" He asked why there are evil people in the world "who do not respect human life."- Father Thomas Muldowney, Pennsylvania State Police chaplain


Brianna Stefansky, from Shapsville, PA, said, "We don't know the danger they go through on a daily basis and what they put their lives on the line for, so everyone should give them a thanks, and not judge them or criticize them for the way they handle things."



"There's got to be a way for us to hold ourselves accountable absent putting cops in jail for making mistakes," he said.

presence
11-21-2014, 09:43 AM
If homeboy was startled by the cop and shot johnny law in the chest?

Christian Liberty
11-21-2014, 10:09 AM
only cops should have guns.

Again, to the idiot cop on the third line, there is a way. Biblical punishment for murder is DEATH.

Brianna is an idiot to, we've discussed why many times here.

As for that "chaplain" (Police and military chaplains have an idol for a master, rather than Christ, BTW) I don't know why Eric Frein did what he did. Its somewhat understandable why anyone would lash out at today's militarized police. And if that particular officer did something awful to him in the past, it may well be completely understandable. Of course, understanding motivations does not mean endorsement, contrary to what neocons say. I suspect that "chaplain" is too stupid to realize that as well.

enhanced_deficit
11-21-2014, 10:16 AM
Not very startling. Looking at his name, he probably was of same skin shade as other unarmed victim of cops outreach - Miriam Carey (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463143-Why-still-no-news-on-riots-for-Miriam-Carey-Justice&p=5702339&viewfull=1#post5702339).

sparebulb
11-21-2014, 10:45 AM
How I long for 1972, when a cop would be branded a gutless coward for shooting an unarmed citizen....or for that matter, an armed citizen that didn't pose an immediate threat to anyone.

And, in 1972, Kate Jackson was really hot.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FThe-Rookies-Season-Kate-Jackson%2Fdp%2FB00803LRK6&ei=lsJvVLiLMIWfggT8yYO4Ag&bvm=bv.80185997,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNGv_-IKLR1I6klDKhy_uK2kg7BKcw&ust=1416696712325198

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32100000/The-Rookies-the-rookies-32107691-800-635.jpg

morfeeis
11-21-2014, 10:54 AM
Cant wait to watch the murder trial... o wait.

I still to this day do not understand how qualified immunity does not create a super class of citizenship and thus violates the equal protection under the law clause. Had this been any non leo just walking in their apartment complex and they shot an unarmed man who made no hostel moves or actions towards them, they would be charges brought against them that day. Now all we'll see is paid leave and a police union snow storm about how they cant comment on an ongoing case. In a better world this would result in a trial and public "justice".

Anti Federalist
11-21-2014, 12:19 PM
*sigh*

Just another day in the soyuz.

Fresh out of cop academy, with the training still buzzing in his ears:

"You are at war out there. Everyone you see is a potential hostile. Your safety is paramount. The circular force continuum is there to protect you."

Anti Federalist
11-21-2014, 12:20 PM
It does.

Wee don't care.

Now, fuck you , and move along. - Lt. Col. Friendly.


Cant wait to watch the murder trial... o wait.

I still to this day do not understand how qualified immunity does not create a super class of citizenship and thus violates the equal protection under the law clause. Had this been any non leo just walking in their apartment complex and they shot an unarmed man who made no hostel moves or actions towards them, they would be charges brought against them that day. Now all we'll see is paid leave and a police union snow storm about how they cant comment on an ongoing case. In a better world this would result in a trial and public "justice".

Natural Citizen
11-21-2014, 04:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidwiBlw4ro#t=31





http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/32/bb/30/00/7.si.jpg
AFP Photo / Timothy A. Clary

A rookie NYPD officer “accidentally” shot and killed an unarmed African-American man in a staircase in a New York apartment block. It happened as Ferguson is tensely waiting for a grand jury decision on a police officer who shot Michael Brown.

Akai Gurley, 28, and his girlfriend Melissa Butler were entering a staircase on the seventh floor in Pink House project in Brooklyn late Thursday evening when two policemen came down from the eighth floor. Peter Liang and his partner, Shaun Landau were doing a top-to-bottom patrol. Liang, a rookie on probationary assignment, fired a shot in Gurley’s chest without a warning, Butler said.

“They didn’t present themselves or nothing and shot him,” Butler told DNAinfo New York. “As soon as he came in, the police opened the [door to the] eighth-floor staircase. They didn’t identify themselves at all. They just shot.”

Gurley and Butler tried to go down the stairs but reached only the fifth floor where Gurley lost consciousness. There a neighbor called an ambulance. Butler says the policemen did not come to help nor called the ambulance. Gurley, who has a 2-year-old son, was pronounced dead on arrival to hospital.




Continued - 'Totally innocent' unarmed 28yo 'accidentally' shot dead by NYPD police (http://rt.com/usa/207795-police-officer-kill-unarmed/)

phill4paul
11-21-2014, 05:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidwiBlw4ro#t=31





Continued - 'Totally innocent' unarmed 28yo 'accidentally' shot dead by NYPD police (http://rt.com/usa/207795-police-officer-kill-unarmed/)

Inside the mind of a SWAT cop.

Don't want to have negative contacts with the cops, don't live in the war zones of America.

Don't want to have negative contacts with the cops, don't live in the war zones of America.

Don't want to have negative contacts with the cops, don't live in the war zones of America.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?381476-Inside-the-mind-of-a-SWAT-cop

morfeeis
11-22-2014, 04:48 PM
Just saw another report and read the one shot was center mass. they are clamming that it was an accident and that it was because he had his flash light in his right hand and his pistol in his left, they also tried to blame it on the guy being left handed (might at well burn him now right?).

Brian4Liberty
11-22-2014, 06:00 PM
An unarmed guy, committing no crime, killed by police because he startled them? There won't be any riots over that ...


If CNN reported it 24x7, they could create some riots.

SeanTX
11-22-2014, 07:38 PM
If CNN reported it 24x7, they could create some riots.

And the riots would be well-deserved, if they just targeted the right people (cops and their family members). Unfortunately though, innocents tend to be targeted instead.

There's a pretty lively street protest going on there now : http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10431662/wethepeople

GunnyFreedom
11-23-2014, 05:30 AM
Here in Ameяika, we only riot over the guilty. We don't actually care about the ones who are actually innocent.

A Son of Liberty
11-23-2014, 05:42 AM
"Officer safety". In 2013, 33 cops were killed in the line of duty. THIRTY-THREE.

In 2013, nearly 800 construction workers were killed while working. EIGHT HUNDRED.

Anti Federalist
11-23-2014, 01:33 PM
"Officer safety". In 2013, 33 cops were killed in the line of duty. THIRTY-THREE.

In 2013, nearly 800 construction workers were killed while working. EIGHT HUNDRED.

In spite of the cops' never ending stream of lachrymose self aggrandizing, being a cop is actually a relatively safe profession, very seldom breaking into the top 10 or even 15 of most dangerous jobs.

I have worked all my life in the top three, and am fair tired of hearing about "how dangerous being a cop is".

moostraks
11-23-2014, 02:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidwiBlw4ro#t=31





Continued - 'Totally innocent' unarmed 28yo 'accidentally' shot dead by NYPD police (http://rt.com/usa/207795-police-officer-kill-unarmed/)

The policemen did not come to help nor call the ambulance, a neighbor had to do this for them. People need to let that one sink in. To protect and serve...themselves that is!

SeanTX
11-23-2014, 03:53 PM
The policemen did not come to help nor call the ambulance, a neighbor had to do this for them. People need to let that one sink in. To protect and serve...themselves that is!

And don't forget, when cops shoot people they will often prevent bystanders and paramedics from administering first aid to the shooting victim -- by declaring that "the scene is not secure." This is murder -- and they get away with it.

Cowlesy
11-23-2014, 04:17 PM
The cops shouldn't do vertical sweeps of these buildings.

Seriously, just let the people in these buildings sort themselves out.

It was funny this morning on the news. The ACLU condemned the shooting, but even they were like "But we need the police to sweep these buildings several times a night."

I'd be more upset about it if I didn't know about that building and how that whole area would be a great place to build a giant fence and recreate the movie Escape From New York as a reality show.

Mani
11-24-2014, 01:08 AM
Bratton called the “accident” a tragedy and blamed it on the poorly lit stairwell.

“As the officers were entering the eighth-floor landing, the lights were not operable,” he said. “Everything points to accidental discharge.”



Oh yes, it's never a Cop's fault. It's the building's fault. It's the fault of the poor stairwell lighting.


And of course.....Next time when you are walking down the stairs....Don't walk around the same flight of stairs as cops....Akai Gurley did this to himself..

anaconda
11-24-2014, 03:27 AM
I'll bet the lawyers are all lining up for a chance at this one.

Anti Federalist
11-24-2014, 07:39 AM
Bratton called the “accident” a tragedy and blamed it on the poorly lit stairwell.

“As the officers were entering the eighth-floor landing, the lights were not operable,” he said. “Everything points to accidental discharge.”

Imagine if a Mundane in NYC, carrying a pistol, tried that as an excuse.

"I blew him away because I could not see clearly".

moostraks
11-24-2014, 07:45 AM
And don't forget, when cops shoot people they will often prevent bystanders and paramedics from administering first aid to the shooting victim -- by declaring that "the scene is not secure." This is murder -- and they get away with it. indeed!


Oh yes, it's never a Cop's fault. It's the building's fault. It's the fault of the poor stairwell lighting.


And of course.....Next time when you are walking down the stairs....Don't walk around the same flight of stairs as cops....Akai Gurley did this to himself..
File under curious grammar thread discussion. Good point!

SeanTX
11-24-2014, 08:13 AM
Oh yes, it's never a Cop's fault. It's the building's fault. It's the fault of the poor stairwell lighting.



Kind of like when Ft. Worth police went to the wrong house in a nice neighborhood and shot the man in his garage -- they blamed that on "poor lighting" too.

GunnyFreedom
11-24-2014, 09:11 AM
indeed!


File under curious grammar thread discussion. Good point!

Not to mention the man was shot. But what or whom he was shot who knows, apparently the cops were there and were startled by the man who was shot, but there is no indication in the headline that the cops were actually involved in the shooting.

phill4paul
12-05-2014, 02:52 PM
Because, CYA is priority #1. Not trying to save the life of someone you just shot...


An officer involved in a fatal shooting in a Brooklyn project texted his union representative rather than immediately calling for medical assistance, according to a report in the New York Daily News.


Quoting a number of unnamed law enforcement sources, the Daily News said that after the incident neither Liang nor his partner, Shaun Landau, could be reached by their superiors for more than six minutes. The New York police department (NYPD) reportedly learned of the incident from a neighbor’s 911 call, after which it attempted and failed to reach Liang and Landau.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/05/officer-in-lethal-shooting-texted-union-rep-instead-of-calling-ambulance-report

TheTexan
12-05-2014, 03:23 PM
28 arrests? That guy must break the law on a daily basis seemingly with no accountability. It kinda sucks that he got shot for basically nothing more than walking down a set of stairs, but you know what, people who break the law so often with so little regard for others kind of deserve to be shot.

I'm just glad the innocent law-abiding police officer is OK.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 04:01 PM
Ok we have BOTH Akai Gurley AND Eric Garner in the same city at the same time, and still no riots. So either 'people' prefer to riot over the guilty and ignore the innocent, or that behavior is being driven by another source such as the Big6 Media.

AuH20
12-05-2014, 04:10 PM
Do you just pull the cops out and let the people fend for themselves? Get appleseed courses started? I'm trying to rationalize a solution here. I would like to see these communities take responsibility, but that's easier said than done.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 05:12 PM
Do you just pull the cops out and let the people fend for themselves? Get appleseed courses started? I'm trying to rationalize a solution here. I would like to see these communities take responsibility, but that's easier said than done.

Well, there is an ultimate solution that is way off in the future, that is actually the best solution, but it seems to radical and absurd from within the current paradigm. A private group goes in and arms and trains (particularly) the "generally agreed upon respectable" folks within the community to bear arms distributed as much throughout the area as possible, and a network to call on one another for backup. Literally create a 'shadow policing force' that doesn't nearly do what police do, more like an armed and up-armored community watch. That is how you teach a community to take care of themselves. The first step to reducing mass policing, is to reduce the need for being mass policed. Ultimately, someone who is going to 'do wrong' and has to answer to a neighbor, is at the very least going to 'do wrong' less violently, (as a major tendency rather than a rule of course) which reduces the need for war cops. So you have an ultimate goal of a respectable community taking care of itself, reducing or eliminating the need for actual police to even interact (or exist) with the community.

The near-term goal "just stop the killing" is probably on a slightly different path than the far-term goal, but only because almost nobody will believe that the near term can be accomplished by the far term, and so the correct action will not be adopted, and we will be shouting at a brick wall again. So adopt a "just stop the killing" strategy that is not so radical as to cause open rejection, but which in the long term furthers your long term goal such that "how do we deal with all this violence" eventually becomes a question of the past.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 05:19 PM
To "stop the killing" in the near-term (pardon the cynicism) we need to leverage the frell out of the innocents and get a compassionate legislature to produce a heart-string pulling "Aiyanna's Law" which restricts whatever police policy that lead to Aiyanna Jones's death. Another "Gurley's Law" to plug the hole in the firewall that led to Akai Gurley's death. Kelly's Law, to restrict the behavior that led to Kelly Thomas's death, and so on. Use the libtard's own tools against them to limit the actions of the unaccountable Police. Bury a nugget within each bill that will later interconnect into a broader system which helps to transition to the far term goal as listed above.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 05:31 PM
Once you have a string of these heart-string bills and have thus circumscribed a "border" on either side of which the police may act or the people may act, then you sketch out the rights and responsibilities of both parties in a later, keystone "Community Policing Act" that assembles all the 'named' laws into a single cohesive system, and openly prohibits the State from interfering with the rights of a community to take care of themselves.

At that end-point, say ~12 years you will have probably passed 6 named heart-string bills (ie "Aiyana's Law") into law and then a 7th unifying keystone; (the first 6 in the first 6 years, and then seventh around year 11?) whereupon you have actually achieved your "long term goal" and such official violence against innocent citizens largely becomes a thing for the history books. At least, in those places that fall under the new more officially laissez faire community policing policy.

Pericles
12-05-2014, 05:33 PM
Ok we have BOTH Akai Gurley AND Eric Garner in the same city at the same time, and still no riots. So either 'people' prefer to riot over the guilty and ignore the innocent, or that behavior is being driven by another source such as the Big6 Media.

Most have more empathy for people they view as being most like themselves. One can not discount professional agitation as well.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 05:38 PM
Yes, I actually have legislative and executive plans to truly solve a great many of our country's most pressing problems. Mostly they are achieved by a 'phased down' or (God help us) 'guided' step-down down from crony consumer corporatism back into a flourishing free market based environment. I admit that most of my reversion plans add an artificial 'bloom' at the start to help increase popular uptake, which bloom will make the Austrians harrumph the most, but it's really just spraying carb cleaner into a carburetor to get the dam starter to ignite. The progressive beggars on both sides have all but ruined this beautiful motor...

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 05:50 PM
Most have more empathy for people they view as being most like themselves. One can not discount professional agitation as well.

I think 'professional agitation' is closer to reality than not. The Big6 have an enormous profit interest in rioting for Brown and ignoring Aiyana Jones. Not to mention the organized disorder inherent in the Marxists doing their thing, the Marxists profit by agenda from there being riots for Trayvon but no riots for Gurley or Garner. They cry aloud for unity and an end to racism, while stirring us against one another, sotto voce. The Big6, of course, probably being close to 1/4 openly Marxist (if refusing to broadcast it) which makes you wonder how many are closeted, and another 1/5 closeted Trotsky's.

So when you have a situation where the executive boards will reap monster profits, coincident with an opportunity for the Marxist agenda to be advanced, then you are almost guaranteed to see riots. I think you have a point, that the BSM will not leave it to NLP to try and evoke reactions, that there are probably certain shady characters known only to one or two black book accountants somewhere in the bowels of Disneyland....

jmdrake
12-05-2014, 05:53 PM
Not very startling. Looking at his name, he probably was of same skin shade as other unarmed victim of cops outreach - Miriam Carey (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?463143-Why-still-no-news-on-riots-for-Miriam-Carey-Justice&p=5702339&viewfull=1#post5702339).

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to enhanced_deficit again.

jmdrake
12-05-2014, 05:55 PM
So any predictions on what the police apologists will come up with this time? I'm betting they will say this unarmed man attacked the police with his chi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjgLgm-wUI

heavenlyboy34
12-05-2014, 06:23 PM
So any predictions on what the police apologists will come up with this time? I'm betting they will say this unarmed man attacked the police with his chi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjgLgm-wUI
Threatening gestures endangering Officer Safety. In the Soyuz, pop-tarts can be considered as menacing as a pistol. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boy-suspended-gun-shaped-pop-tart-lifetime-nra-membership-article-1.1359918) (SMFH :( )

presence
12-05-2014, 06:46 PM
LBNJRETURNS! 50 minutes ago

The gun went off on its own, and the indifference that led up to its self-automation was not gross enough.
Got it.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/akai-gurley-case-grand-jury-to-weigh-nypd-shooting-of-unarmed-man-in-stairwell/

jmdrake
12-05-2014, 07:11 PM
Most have more empathy for people they view as being most like themselves. One can not discount professional agitation as well.

In other words....since Mike Brown was a thug he was more likely to have thug friends. And since thugs are more likely to riot, his friends were more likely to riot.

Pericles
12-05-2014, 07:13 PM
In other words....since Mike Brown was a thug he was more likely to have thug friends. And since thugs are more likely to riot, his friends were more likely to riot.

Nice guys who go to law school and have jobs in law firms tend not to riot in the streets.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 07:35 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/akai-gurley-case-grand-jury-to-weigh-nypd-shooting-of-unarmed-man-in-stairwell/

That's weird, I went to post the following:


How many times has everyone had a face-to-face on a stairwell or in a hall, done a silly dance and go about your way? If I shot a guy just for bumping faces in a stairwell I would get the chair. Article 4 Section 4 'guaranteeing to the states...a republican form of government." Are the police above the law? Do they, themselves claim to BE the law? Or is it some desperately wicked police-state combination of both? Yeah. Wake up folks, black and white alike. This is exactly how little Adolph started his thing. Look up this official US Government docu-propaganda flick "Don't Be A Sucker (1947)"

They are inciting people to riot over Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, and telling y'all to shut up about Aiyana Jones, Miriam Carey, Kelly Thomas, and Akai Gurley. When the BSM has us all up in riots - rioting in the streets and rioting on facebook - over some rorschach blot like Michael Brown, and just sitting quiet and shut up over the much more obvious Eric Garner and and even clearer Akai Gurley (not to mention a dozen other innocents everywhere and of every human race) then we know we are getting played by the Big Six Media.


Please, watch this 17-minute US Government movie from 1947 on how to recognize encroaching fascism. Right after we defeated Germany, the US Government grew concerned that "it could actually happen here" and so produced an educational film on how to recognize fascism. Now that that generation is a memory, this movie is more important than ever, because if you watch this warning from the US Government from 1947, then you will see the encroach of fascism every time they have us up in riots over Trayvon Martin and keep us ignorant about Aiyana Jones. It is easy to find with any search engine "Don't Be A Sucker (1947)"

And as soon as I did they appear to have shut down the comments.

Either that I was banned from them right after I sent that.....

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 07:53 PM
In other words....since Mike Brown was a thug he was more likely to have thug friends. And since thugs are more likely to riot, his friends were more likely to riot.

I don't think that's what he said at all. He indicated the possibility that some outside group may be intentionally instigating these riots, and that they (this 'outside' group) are selecting the 'worst' events to riot over on purpose to unjustly make certain communities look bad, also that they may be directed by empathy, with which I totally disagree. They are driven by antipathy. To some degree, maybe they are more enraged by the cop who would shoot "someone like them" than to shoot a little girl, after all, they are not a little girl. So maybe a lack of empathy can be indicted to some extent, more about self-interest and self-absorption. "It is more in my personal interest to stop the stuff that might get me killed than to try and stop the stuff that killed that little girl."

What I think you are getting at, is not really empathy. It's more about self projection, which is kind of like empathy but it's not, because empathy is the ability to empathise with people who are not-you. Once you make someone a 'you' then it's no longer empathy. Defending one of your own family and children, for example, has not a damn thing to do with empathy. So it's really a different metric.

But the rage and violence and such, is nothing but antipathy. Hate for whatever. Someone who's got more than you, some cat who doesn't (appear to) have to struggle. Hate for 'the man;' unfocused rage just looking for an excuse.

GunnyFreedom
12-05-2014, 08:03 PM
That's weird, I went to post the following:



And as soon as I did they appear to have shut down the comments.

Either that I was banned from them right after I sent that.....

Comments came back up and mine was gone so I reposted it. Seems to be staying for the moment.

jjdoyle
12-05-2014, 08:07 PM
If homeboy was startled by the cop and shot johnny law in the chest?

2nd degree murder? Probably involuntary manslaughter at the very least, if his defense team tried to cut a deal with the DA.

Pericles
12-05-2014, 08:55 PM
I don't think that's what he said at all. He indicated the possibility that some outside group may be intentionally instigating these riots, and that they (this 'outside' group) are selecting the 'worst' events to riot over on purpose to unjustly make certain communities look bad, also that they may be directed by empathy, with which I totally disagree. They are driven by antipathy. To some degree, maybe they are more enraged by the cop who would shoot "someone like them" than to shoot a little girl, after all, they are not a little girl. So maybe a lack of empathy can be indicted to some extent, more about self-interest and self-absorption. "It is more in my personal interest to stop the stuff that might get me killed than to try and stop the stuff that killed that little girl."

What I think you are getting at, is not really empathy. It's more about self projection, which is kind of like empathy but it's not, because empathy is the ability to empathise with people who are not-you. Once you make someone a 'you' then it's no longer empathy. Defending one of your own family and children, for example, has not a damn thing to do with empathy. So it's really a different metric.

But the rage and violence and such, is nothing but antipathy. Hate for whatever. Someone who's got more than you, some cat who doesn't (appear to) have to struggle. Hate for 'the man;' unfocused rage just looking for an excuse.

You both have part of it. Historically, there has been a "professional mob' - the guys who sparked the Boston Massacre, the New York Draft Riots in 1863, and now are the race riot mob. The current manpower just happens to be inner city ghetto types. White trash are too lazy to get off the couch and turn off the TV - (belch). Anyway, this is the class of people who think that they have no stake in society and nothing to lose, and are receptive to professional agitation, whether it be by the Sons of Liberty, Boss Tweed, or the Marxist / Islamist / New Black Panther types we have today.

The odd events that need to be explained are why riots over people with less than respectable backgrounds and not the people killed such as a 7 year old girl, black guys in wrong address SWAT raids, and so on. The mob can't identify with them, so are more difficult to agitate.

At most nice, middle class folks get together and hold signs, or wave flags. Nobody is afraid of them - they have something to lose by breaking a law.

Valli6
12-05-2014, 08:58 PM
Gurley's family wants Al Sharpton to butt out!

Bklyn Shooting Victim's Mom & Aunt: "Reverend Al, Don't Crash Our Funeral"

The family of the man who was shot to death in Brooklyn by the NYPD wants Al Sharpton to mind his own business and stay away from the upcoming wake and funeral.

Akai Gurley was gunned down in a Brooklyn housing project stairwell, and the cop who shot him shockingly texted his union rep before calling 911.

Sharpton has gone on the attack, holding a news conference condemning the cop.

But Gurley's aunt, Hertenceia Peterson - who is speaking for his mom - tells TMZ, "Al Sharpton came in, put his name on the situation, but has not even made one single call to the parents to Akai." Peterson says all Sharpton sees "is money and political gain and that he is turning the tragedy into a circus."

Kevin Powell, who appeared on the first season of "The Real World" has been helping the family.

She says the family does NOT want Sharpton at Friday night's wake, where the Rev has promised to deliver a eulogy. She also says he's persona non grata at the funeral.

Rev. Sharpton tells TMZ, he's not grandstanding for the cameras and he was asked to get involved by Akai's domestic partner and mother of his daughter, Kimberly Ballinger.

Ballinger tells us, "Sharpton and his team have been supporting us since day one, and we absolutely want him to attend the wake and funeral."

UPDATE
4:30 PM PT -- Reverend Sharpton tells us he has questions about Hertenceia and her motives. He says, "I do not know that this Aunt has legal standing to speak for the family."

He adds ... "When Kimberly asked us for help we responded because she had legal standing as his domestic partner and the mother of his child ... who is the next of kin."

http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/05/nypd-brooklyn-shooting-akai-gurley-funeral-family-al-sharpton/

TheTexan
12-05-2014, 10:38 PM
Seems like he followed policy to me??

https://www.anonimg.com/img/4d946c3e77262cde7e9eeeb76a833566.png

moostraks
12-06-2014, 10:11 AM
You both have part of it. Historically, there has been a "professional mob' - the guys who sparked the Boston Massacre, the New York Draft Riots in 1863, and now are the race riot mob. The current manpower just happens to be inner city ghetto types. White trash are too lazy to get off the couch and turn off the TV - (belch). Anyway, this is the class of people who think that they have no stake in society and nothing to lose, and are receptive to professional agitation, whether it be by the Sons of Liberty, Boss Tweed, or the Marxist / Islamist / New Black Panther types we have today.

The odd events that need to be explained are why riots over people with less than respectable backgrounds and not the people killed such as a 7 year old girl, black guys in wrong address SWAT raids, and so on. The mob can't identify with them, so are more difficult to agitate.

At most nice, middle class folks get together and hold signs, or wave flags. Nobody is afraid of them - they have something to lose by breaking a law.

Well said! It is an identity issue with seeing the victim as a that could have been me or a relative of mine. When a bum gets murdered by police, bums won't riot because they are usually already beaten down by life and live in the shadows. They might have nothing to lose but behaviorally will respond much as they live their lives, in the shadows. People respond in a fairly predictable fashion until they are completely cornered themselves and respond out of desperation.

Tyreez
12-06-2014, 02:15 PM
Man, this some real ratchet shit right there. Police in Brooklyn shoot on sight, don't give a fuck about black people, just like all the rest of the po-po. This was a union guy too. Prolly mob linked.

osan
12-07-2014, 06:36 PM
Officer safety was ensured, and the guy had been arrested 24 times -- so he obviously deserved it due to his past record.

An unarmed guy, committing no crime, killed by police because he startled them? There won't be any riots over that ...

Hopefully the cops at least suffered permanent hearing loss -- probably the only negative consequence they'll suffer. Though the rookie might get fired ...



http://nypost.com/2014/11/21/police-fatally-shoot-man-in-brooklyn-building/

I just learned of this from my mom. Words are nearly failing me. Nearly.

Go ahead and hate me for being Mr. Broken Record, but I don't care.

Hunt them.

Take them.

Five minute drum-head trial.

Dispense justice.

This is no longer a matter of the civil society of men, for were it so, I would never suggest the steps above.

This is open warfare and Theye have demonstrated that anything goes.

Then let it anything.