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Mani
11-14-2014, 02:30 AM
So America was in an UPROAR when the video of the NFL player Ray Rice beating his then fiance in an elevator. America wanted him arrested, banned for life, taken his job away from him. America was shocked and horrified that a man could do such a thing and the NFL needs to do something about it!!!


The only thing that's shocking, is why isn't America upset about the heroes in blue that beat their domestic partners at 2 to 4 times the rate of the general population?? The NFL has less domestic violence cases then the general population, yet the so called heroes are more than double (if not MUCH MORE).


No shock? No complaints? No action? We got that bastard black NFL player beating a woman....We are satiated now... (Is that it?) What about the families of an abusive officer that can't even turn to the law for protection? What about them??


http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

Police Have a Much Bigger Domestic-Abuse Problem Than the NFL Does

Research suggests that family violence is two to four times higher in the law-enforcement community than in the general population. So where's the public outrage? (Fucking hell, I'd like to know where's the outrage....I really would...)


Should the National Football League suspend or ban any player caught assaulting a wife or girlfriend? That seems to be the conventional wisdom since video emerged of running back Ray Rice knocking his wife unconscious in an elevator, even as reports surface that many more NFL players have domestic-abuse records.

While I have no particular objection to a suspension of any length for such players, the public focus on NFL policy seems strange and misplaced to me. Despite my general preference for reducing the prison population, an extremely strong person rendering a much smaller, weaker person unconscious with his fists, as Rice did, is a situation where prison is particularly appropriate. More generally, clear evidence of domestic abuse is something that ought to result in legal sanction. Employers aren't a good stand in for prosecutors, juries, and judges.

Should ex-convicts who abused their partners be denied employment forever? I think not. Our notion should be that they've paid their debt to society in prison. Pressure on the NFL to take a harder line against domestic abuse comes in the context of a society where the crime isn't adequately punished, so I totally understand it. Observing anti-NFL rhetoric, you'd nevertheless get the impression that other employers monitor and sanction domestic abuse incidents by employees. While I have nothing against pressuring the NFL to go beyond what the typical employer does, I fear that vilifying the league has the effect of misleading the public into a belief that it is out of step with general norms on this issue. Domestic violence is less common among NFL players than the general population.

And there is another American profession that has a significantly more alarming problem with domestic abuse. I'd urge everyone who believes in zero tolerance for NFL employees caught beating their wives or girlfriends to direct as much attention—or ideally, even more attention—at police officers who assault their partners. Several studies have found that the romantic partners of police officers suffer domestic abuse at rates significantly higher than the general population. And while all partner abuse is unacceptable, it is especially problematic when domestic abusers are literally the people that battered and abused women are supposed to call for help.

If there's any job that domestic abuse should disqualify a person from holding, isn't it the one job that gives you a lethal weapon, trains you to stalk people without their noticing, and relies on your judgment and discretion to protect the abused against domestic abusers?

The opprobrium heaped on the NFL for failing to suspend or terminate domestic abusers, and the virtual absence of similar pressure directed at police departments, leads me to believe that many people don't know the extent of domestic abuse among officers. This is somewhat surprising, since a country shocked by Ray Rice's actions ought to be even more horrified by the most egregious examples of domestic abuse among police officers. Their stories end in death.

There's the recently retired 30-year veteran police officer who shot his wife and then himself in Colorado Springs earlier this summer. There's Tacoma Police Chief David Brame, who perpetrated another murder-suicide in April. (Update: it's in fact the tenth anniversary of this crime, which I missed in the ABC story.) Also in April, an Indiana news station reported on "Sgt. Ryan Anders, a narcotics officer," who "broke into his ex-wife's home and fatally shot her. He then turned the gun on himself." In February, "Dallas police confirmed ... that a Crandall police officer shot and killed his wife before killing himself." Last year, a Nevada police officer killed his wife, his son, and then himself. And Joshua Boren, a Utah police officer, "killed his wife, their two children, his mother-in-law and then himself" after receiving "text messages ... hours earlier threatening to leave him and take their kids and confronting him for raping her." That isn't an exhaustive survey, just a quick roundup of recent stories gleaned from the first couple pages of Google results. And statistics about "blue" domestic abuse are shocking in their own way.

As the National Center for Women and Policing noted in a heavily footnoted information sheet, "Two studies have found that at least 40 percent of police officer families experience domestic violence, in contrast to 10 percent of families in the general population.

(holy fucking bad apples!!!! 4 out of 10 cops are beating/slapping/hitting their spouses or children. Is that enough bad fucking apples?!!?!)

A third study of older and more experienced officers found a rate of 24 percent, indicating that domestic violence is two to four times more common among police families than American families in general."

Cops "typically handle cases of police family violence informally, often without an official report, investigation, or even check of the victim's safety," the summary continues. "This 'informal' method is often in direct contradiction to legislative mandates and departmental policies regarding the appropriate response to domestic violence crimes."

Finally, "even officers who are found guilty of domestic violence are unlikely to be fired, arrested, or referred for prosecution." (just us system Not accused...FOUND GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

What struck me as I read through the information sheet's footnotes is how many of the relevant studies were conducted in the 1990s or even before. Research is so scant and inadequate that a precise accounting of the problem's scope is impossible, as The New York Times concluded in a 2013 investigation that was nevertheless alarming. "In many departments, an officer will automatically be fired for a positive marijuana test, but can stay on the job after abusing or battering a spouse," (smoke some MJ....You are losing your job as a cop. Punch your wife in the face....Eh..whatever..) the newspaper reported. Then it tried to settle on some hard numbers:

In some instances, researchers have resorted to asking officers to confess how often they had committed abuse. One such study, published in 2000, said one in 10 officers at seven police agencies admitted that they had “slapped, punched or otherwise injured” a spouse or domestic partner. A broader view emerges in Florida, which has one of the nation’s most robust open records laws. An analysis by The Times of more than 29,000 credible complaints of misconduct against police and corrections officers there strongly suggests that domestic abuse had been underreported to the state for years.

After reporting requirements were tightened in 2007, requiring fingerprints of arrested officers to be automatically reported to the agency that licenses them, the number of domestic abuse cases more than doubled—from 293 in the previous five years to 775 over the next five. The analysis also found that complaints of domestic violence lead to job loss less often than most other accusations of misconduct.

A chart that followed crystallized the lax punishments meted out to domestic abusers. Said the text, "Cases reported to the state are the most serious ones—usually resulting in arrests. Even so, nearly 30 percent of the officers accused of domestic violence were still working in the same agency a year later, compared with 1 percent of those who failed drug tests and 7 percent of those accused of theft."



(snip...I recommend reading the entire article)

It would be wonderful if domestic violence by police officers was tracked in a way that permitted me to link something more comprehensive and precise than the National Center for Women and Policing fact sheet, the studies on which it is based, the New York Times analysis, or other press reports from particular police departments. But the law enforcement community hasn't seen fit to track these cases consistently or rigorously. (You don't say..huh...color me surprised.)

(snip)

Think about that. Domestic abuse is underreported. Police officers are given the benefit of the doubt by colleagues in borderline cases. Yet even among police officers who were charged, arrested, and convicted of abuse, more than half kept their jobs. (But let's go after Ray Rice...He punched his fiance in the elevator! If we get him banned from the NFL, we've solved domestic abuse! Yay!)

(snip)

A whistleblower went to jail in 2003 when he leaked personnel files showing the scope of abuse in the department. "Kids were being beaten. Women were being beaten and raped. Their organs were ruptured. Bones were broken," he told L.A. Weekly. "It was hard cold-fisted brutality by police officers, and nothing was being done to protect their family members. And I couldn’t stand by and do nothing.” (A bigger fucking hero than any of these tin badge wife beater fucks. He probably saved lives, saved broken bones, and helped more families than these cocksuckers ever did...AND HE went to jail, for ratting on the psychopaths.)


(snip)

In more than 75 percent of confirmed cases, the personnel file omitted or downplayed the domestic abuse. Of those accused of domestic violence, 29 percent were later promoted and 30 percent were repeat offenders.
(Cracking women's ribs...and getting promoted! Officers of the year I tell yous!)

(snip)

Perhaps fence-sitters will be persuaded by a case in which a police officer abused his daughter by sitting on her, pummeling her, and zip-tying her hands and forcing her to eat hot sauce derived from ghost chili peppers. (Father of the year. Happy Father Daughter day!!)

(snip)



There have been plenty of other reports published this year of police officers perpetrating domestic abuse, and then there's another horrifying, perhaps related phenomenon: multiple allegations this year of police officers responding to domestic-violence emergency calls and raping the victim. Here's the Detroit Free Press in March:

The woman called 911, seeking help from police after reportedly being assaulted by her boyfriend. But while police responded to the domestic violence call, one of the officers allegedly took the woman into an upstairs bedroom and sexually assaulted her, authorities said.

Here is a case that The San Jose Mercury News reported the same month:

Officer Geoffrey Graves, 38, who has been with the Police Department for six years, was charged by Santa Clara County prosecutors with forcible rape in connection with a Sept. 22 incident. The incident began when Graves and three other San Jose officers responded to a family disturbance involving a married couple about 2 a.m., prosecutors said. The officers determined that both spouses had been drinking and had argued, but that no crime had occurred, authorities said.

The woman, who works as a hotel maid, told officers that she wanted to spend the night at a hotel where she had previously worked. About 2:30 a.m., Graves drove the woman to the hotel, where she went to her room alone and fell asleep, authorities said. Fifteen minutes later, the woman heard knocking and opened the door.

Then he allegedly raped her.

There is no more damaging perpetrator of domestic violence than a police officer, who harms his partner as profoundly as any abuser, and is then particularly ill-suited to helping victims of abuse in a culture where they are often afraid of coming forward. The evidence of a domestic-abuse problem in police departments around the United States is overwhelming. The situation is significantly bigger than what the NFL faces, orders of magnitude more damaging to society, and yet far less known to the public, which hasn't demanded changes. What do police in your city or town do when a colleague is caught abusing their partner? That's a question citizens everywhere should investigate.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
11-14-2014, 02:47 AM
Not sure if I expected that to be in Atlantic Magazine. Maybe some of these more popular/mainstream sources are finally getting the memo.

nobody's_hero
11-14-2014, 03:06 AM
Well wives would be pretty easy to beat up on compared to NFL players.


. . . wait, did I read the title wrong?

Mani
11-14-2014, 03:14 AM
Well wives would be pretty easy to beat up on compared to NFL players.


. . . wait, did I read the title wrong?


Sorry for the shitty title thread. There was so much information in this article I was racing to get it all in and highlight so many important facts. :(

NorthCarolinaLiberty
11-14-2014, 03:37 AM
Off topic, but double meaning headlines:


1.Include Your Children When Baking Cookies
2.Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Experts Say
3.Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
4.Drunks Get Nine Months in Violin Case
5.Iraqi Head Seeks Arms
6.Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
7.Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over
8.British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands
9.Teacher Strikes Idle Kids
10.Clinton Wins Budget; More Lies Ahead
11.Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told
12.Miners Refuse to Work After Death
13.Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
14.Stolen Painting Found by Tree
15.Two Sisters Reunited after 18 Years in Checkout Counter
16.War Dims Hope for Peace
17.If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While
18.Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide
19.Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge
20.New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
21.Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Space
22.Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
23.Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half




Okay, back to the lice.




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NorthCarolinaLiberty
11-14-2014, 03:39 AM
Off topic, but double meaning headlines:


1.Include Your Children When Baking Cookies
2.Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Experts Say
3.Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
4.Drunks Get Nine Months in Violin Case
5.Iraqi Head Seeks Arms
6.Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
7.Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over
8.British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands
9.Teacher Strikes Idle Kids
10.Clinton Wins Budget; More Lies Ahead
11.Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told
12.Miners Refuse to Work After Death
13.Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
14.Stolen Painting Found by Tree
15.Two Sisters Reunited after 18 Years in Checkout Counter
16.War Dims Hope for Peace
17.If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While
18.Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide
19.Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge
20.New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
21.Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Space
22.Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
23.Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half




Okay, back to the lice.




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bella68
01-07-2015, 02:58 AM
Yeah I have also heard that a lot of players are caught abusing and beating their hottest nfl wives (http://www.ranker.com/list/hottest-nfl-wives/the-round-mound). I don’t understand why the government is silent on this serious issue? I feel the government needs to do something about it.

Iowa
01-07-2015, 03:25 AM
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Ronin Truth
01-07-2015, 06:22 AM
Sounds like both the husbands AND the wives need therapy and to learn how to choose better partners.

Working Poor
01-07-2015, 07:42 AM
The comments at the article are awesome!