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Anti Federalist
11-13-2014, 02:23 AM
Man Calls 9-1-1 to Report a Gunman, When Cops Show Up they Shoot the Caller

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-calls-9-1-1-report-gunman-cops-respond-shoot-caller/

Vancouver, Wash. – A tip to 9-1-1 about a gunman on the run led to an officer involved shooting. The problem is that the person the cops shot wasn’t the suspect, but the 9-1-1 caller, according to the Vancouver Police Department.

The police were conducting a manhunt on Halloween morning for John Kendall, 59, after Kendall shot his neighbor, Abigail Mounce. Kendall had been to court that morning with his neighbor for a civil dispute prior to shooting her.

As the manhunt was ongoing, a tipster called into 9-1-1 to report a suspicious car parked near a wooded area near a gravel turnout, which belonged to the suspect.

The caller parked his car in the same area as Kendall’s vehicle and waited for law enforcement after getting off of the phone with the dispatcher.

When officers arrived on scene, they saw the 9-1-1 caller get out of his vehicle and walk around the back of his vehicle. The cops, jacked up on adrenaline and fear, decided to open fire on the innocent man.

The man was hit in the leg by the gunfire and took cover behind a pile of gravel and then attempted to return fire with his own weapon, according to KPTV.

The citizen then called 9-1-1 again to report that he had been shot by the cops, at which point the responding officers decided to forgo killing the wrong person and made contact with the innocent man.






Police claimed that due to the terrain they weren’t able to see Kendall’s car when they arrived so they just assumed the tipster was Kendall. Never a wise idea to simply assume someone is a gunman.

When engaging in the use of deadly force it is always a good idea to make sure that you are shooting at the right person. If you shoot the people who call you for help, or who provide information to assist you, it creates a dynamic where most rational people will not call out of fear of being gunned down wrongfully, as happens all too often.

The citizen was taken to the hospital and treated for his gunshot wound. Kendall was later found dead, in the woods, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The lack of training in a situation such as this boggles the mind. The officers simply made fear driven assumptions, which could have potentially resulted in the killing of an innocent man, who had in fact attempted to assist them in their investigation.

Once again it seems the most dangerous thing you can do, even with a gunman on the loose, is to call law enforcement, as you are more likely to be killed by the cops than the gunman himself.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-calls-9-1-1-report-gunman-cops-respond-shoot-caller/#hzeyhrqJck9BDpsq.99

GunnyFreedom
11-13-2014, 04:32 AM
Medals and promotions all around.

Mani
11-13-2014, 04:58 AM
More about the same shooting.



http://www.salon.com/2014/11/12/police_accidentally_shoot_man_who_called_911_to_re port_suspect_sighting/

(snip)

The police explained: “Law enforcement personnel watched as the citizen (believed to be Kendall) exited his vehicle and circled behind his trunk. Fearing that he armed himself, law enforcement fired multiple shots at the individual in order to stop the perceived threat before the citizen could enter the woods.”



So now the cops FEAR the guy might be armed is enough to shoot multiple times???

Before the cops had to at least see a weapon: gun, knife, walking stick, blunt sword, plastic toy gun, garden hose nozzle, Wii controller, shiny metal object......AND THEN they could shoot....

Now cops just "FEAR" he might be armed and that's enough to light him up!?!?


So you could technically fear EVERYONE is armed...And just shoot ANYONE for FEAR of being armed...Not even seeing a weapon...Just the fear of the guy having a weapon is enough to shoot to kill.

aGameOfThrones
11-13-2014, 06:59 AM
Now you've done it, AF.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/11/tumblr_net0zrOcZZ1qbyb95o3_500.gif

phill4paul
11-13-2014, 07:36 AM
The man was hit in the leg by the gunfire and took cover behind a pile of gravel and then attempted to return fire with his own weapon, according to KPTV.

How did he ever make it out alive?

Inkblots
11-13-2014, 08:53 AM
How did he ever make it out alive?

The cops were such enormous pussies that they crapped themselves and ran when it turned out the pleb could shoot back?

osan
11-13-2014, 08:59 AM
Joey Meaner never learns.

Never.

I will add that the cops in Vancouver are worthless. First-hand experience talking. Used to live there. Nice town. Shitty cops.

brushfire
11-13-2014, 09:03 AM
Man Calls 9-1-1 to Report a Gunman, When Cops Show Up they Shoot the Caller

When engaging in the use of deadly force it is always a good idea to make sure that you are shooting at the right person. If you shoot the people who call you for help, or who provide information to assist you, it creates a dynamic where most rational people will not call out of fear of being gunned down wrongfully, as happens all too often.


Sounds like a "win win". Less people calling, less work. Qualified immunity for all!

I guarantee I will be held responsible for anything that comes out of my firearm.

jkr
11-13-2014, 09:10 AM
SNITCHEZ
GET
BULLITZ

SeanTX
11-13-2014, 09:14 AM
The man was hit in the leg by the gunfire and took cover behind a pile of gravel and then attempted to return fire with his own weapon, according to KPTV.

He should be charged with attempted murder of a peace officer.

HOLLYWOOD
11-13-2014, 09:27 AM
LOL!
Police claimed that due to the terrain they weren’t able to see Kendall’s car when they arrived so they just assumed the tipster was Kendall. When cops assume, they make attempted or cold blooded murder legal... so, 'Paid Vacations and Promotions' in order, now pay up you dumb fuckin serfs!

sparebulb
11-13-2014, 09:39 AM
The man was hit in the leg by the gunfire and took cover behind a pile of gravel and then attempted to return fire with his own weapon, according to KPTV

With my understanding of the English language, "attempting" to return fire would imply that he, in fact, did not return fire.

Thus, the reason that the initial botched summary execution was delayed.

SeanTX
11-13-2014, 09:45 AM
With my understanding of the English language, "attempting" to return fire would imply that he, in fact, did not return fire.

Thus, the reason that the initial botched summary execution was delayed.

Another article I saw says he fired one shot in return, then called 911 to get them to call their goons off.

That one shot may have saved his life -- it probably sent them into enough of a tizzy to back off and regroup, giving dispatch time to get through to them.

sparebulb
11-13-2014, 09:51 AM
Another article I saw says he fired one shot in return, then called 911 to get them to call their goons off.

That one shot may have saved his life -- it probably sent them into enough of a tizzy to back off and regroup, giving dispatch time to get through to them.

No doubt, this man is lucky to be alive.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised to read about this man praising the cops that shot him.

GunnyFreedom
11-13-2014, 09:56 AM
No doubt, this man is lucky to be alive.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised to read about this man praising the cops that shot him.
If he knows what's GOOD a for him. :p

Occam's Banana
11-13-2014, 11:03 AM
The lack of training in a situation such as this boggles the mind. The officers simply made fear driven assumptions, which could have potentially resulted in the killing of an innocent man, who had in fact attempted to assist them in their investigation.

Lack of training? Really?

What reason do we have to think that the officers' "fear driven assumptions" are due to a "lack of training?"
If anything, given the universal nostrum of "officer safety," such assumptions are likely the direct result and desired end of their training ...

ravedown
11-13-2014, 11:07 AM
Joey Meaner never learns.

Never.

I will add that the cops in Vancouver are worthless. First-hand experience talking. Used to live there. Nice town. Shitty cops.

true. i am also an ex-vanloser resident...there is more crime there than you would think. had my car and home burgled 4-5 times in 2 years, when i moved to nevada, i went 10 years with nothing.

Anti Federalist
11-13-2014, 01:33 PM
Lack of training? Really?

What reason do we have to think that the officers' "fear driven assumptions" are due to a "lack of training?"
If anything, given the universal nostrum of "officer safety," such assumptions are likely the direct result and desired end of their training ...

Yes, I'm not sure if the author had a brain fart there, or has failed to reach a critical level of understanding.

This is exactly what happens when you train the cops, over and over, that they are "warriors" behind enemy lines, and that every contact is a "hostile" to be "taken out" at the slighest hint of danger.

Mani
11-13-2014, 10:46 PM
Another article I saw says he fired one shot in return, then called 911 to get them to call their goons off.

That one shot may have saved his life -- it probably sent them into enough of a tizzy to back off and regroup, giving dispatch time to get through to them.


Ya...OMG RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY!!! He is armed after all!!! SOMEONE CALL A SWAT TEAM!!!! (We are the the swat team..) THEN SOMEONE CALL A SECOND SWAT TEAM!!