Bruce Springsteen rubbed Obama's face in a steaming pile of s%&# yesterday

[tangent4ronpaul]

Someone made the mistake of inviting him to perform at the propaganda "Concert of Valor" on the national mall.

Here's the lyrics of the Credence song he sung...

Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
Oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no Senator's son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the tax men come to the door
Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah, some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Oh, they only answer, more, more, more, oh

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate son, no, no

Songwriters
JOHN C. FOGERTY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM

-t

[presence]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gM_u7a9w-dw

[H. E. Panqui]

:confused: ...what about the rest of the warmongers?!...you know, rand paul, and the rest of the stinking Republicrats...

[Valli6]

I remember when Springsteen told everyone Obama was "the real deal". :rolleyes:

[Dianne]

Someone made the mistake of inviting him to perform at the propaganda "Concert of Valor" on the national mall.

Here's the lyrics of the Credence song he sung...

Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
Oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no Senator's son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the tax men come to the door
Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah, some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Oh, they only answer, more, more, more, oh

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate son, no, no

Songwriters
JOHN C. FOGERTY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM

-t

LOL FOX News is irate.

[JK/SEA]

who's Bruce Springfield?

[sparebulb]

who's Bruce Springfield?

An overrated, self-important Jersey girl.

Don't confuse the "Boss" with the real deal....

http://thedadada.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rick_springfield.jpg

Rick Springfield > Douche Springsteen

[Lucille]

Awesome.

Bruce Springsteen’s anti-war songs at Concert for Valor didn’t go over too well
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/12/some-people-didnt-appreciate-bruce-springsteens-anti-war-songs-at-concert-for-valor/


Though written by leather-voiced classic rock mastermind John Fogerty — a man Springsteen once called “our generation’s Hank Williams” — this is lyrical terrain familiar to the Boss. “Fortunate Son” takes on income inequality and unblinking patriotism, as Forgarty, a former serviceman, explains here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9wY9L-PwM).

But it was the song’s third chorus that really got people’s dander up on the Mall. In that one, Fogerty insisted he “ain’t no military son.” Here’s Springsteen singing the offending lyric as Grohl and Brown bang their heads:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7sR_rMDu6gM

On Veterans Day, in the heart of a centuries-old democracy fighting interminable foreign wars — not far from a monument to Gen. George Washington — this didn’t go over well.

“The song, not to put too fine a point on it, is an anti-war screed, taking shots at ‘the red white and blue,’” the Weekly Standard wrote. “It was a particularly terrible choice given that Fortunate Son is, moreover, an anti-draft song, and this concert was largely organized to honor those who volunteered to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

Just them?

Bring back Armistice Day (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/11/us-observe-armistice-day-more-comfortable-war-than-peace).


Kurt Vonnegut, a World War II veteran, wrote in 1973:

Armistice Day has become Veterans’ Day. Armistice Day was sacred. Veterans’ Day is not. So I will throw Veterans’ Day over my shoulder. Armistice Day I will keep. I don’t want to throw away any sacred things.


So, starting right now, let’s agree: Songs like “Fortunate Son” and “Born in the U.S.A.,” while they criticize the armed forces, aren’t anti-American in the sense that, for example, the Islamic State is anti-American. By offering a critique of our nation’s policies, they celebrate its promise.

Or, as Mark Twain put it: “The true patriotism, the only rational patriotism, is loyalty to the Nation all the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it.”

Okay?

[Brian4Liberty]

who's Bruce Springfield?

Buffalo's brother?

[Brian4Liberty]

Better:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c_bNO0KZSs


For a hill men would kill why? They do not know
Stiffened wounds test their pride
Men of five, still alive through the raging glow
Gone insane from this pain that they surely know

For whom the bell tolls
Time marches on
For whom the bell tolls

Take a look to the sky just before you die
It is the last time you will

[Lucille]

2 Truthful Songs Played at Militarist Hoot’nanny
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/2-truthful-songs-played-at-militarist-hootnanny/

[Zippyjuan]

Springsteen also did a slow acoustic version of "Born In The USA" which is sometimes mistaken for a rousing anthem but was really a song about a man who goes off to war and returns to hard times.

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/bruce-springsteen-reworks--born-in-the-u-s-a---for-veterans-tribute-060317525.html

[HOLLYWOOD]

LOL FOX News is irate.You Betcha... FOX NEWS is trying their damnist to spin it as "Unpatriotic" Liberal Musician, Fool... The NEWSCORP "Jingoism Machine" has been put into Overdrive.

I'm glad others are catching US Fascist-Corporatist Media operations

[jmdrake]

An overrated, self-important Jersey girl.

Don't confuse the "Boss" with the real deal....

http://thedadada.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rick_springfield.jpg

Rick Springfield > Douche Springsteen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW1Frr4OcRc

[osan]

I don't follow... how was singing this song tantamount to taking a steaming shit on Obama's head?

Not so long ago Springsteen was very busily sucking Bammy's dick. Is there something you left out?

[Zippyjuan]

My guess is that he chose songs he felt the vets could relate to- not ones considered "pro war". In concert he will also sometimes play Edwin Starr's "War- What Is It Good For". He has never been a "pro war" singer.

[CPUd]

Better:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c_bNO0KZSs


If Metallica brought their own stage, it would be a bit different.

That part of their set they start with One, and there are red lasers like tracer rounds and explosions all over the stage. Then a bunch of tombstones come up from the floor.

Also they have had the Statue of Liberty crumble to make it look like it wrecks the stage. Might have been too much for this performance though.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Buffalo's brother?I think it's Dusty's Brother ;)

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0002/497/MI0002497906.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

[Lucille]

I know the neo-Trots at HotAir and Twitchy are freaking out. They have no criticism for Metallica performing an anti-war song though. Quite the opposite (http://twitchy.com/2014/11/11/best-show-of-the-night-metalllica-rocks-concert-for-valor-with-vets-and-families-on-stage/). Maybe they don't realize it's an anti-war song?

This Week's Culture War: Arguing About a Creedence Clearwater Revival Song
http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/this-weeks-culture-war-arguing-about-a-c#fold


At first it looked like the designated controversy from the Concert for Valor, a Veterans Day show held on the National Mall and broadcast on HBO, was going to be the fact that Eminem spent his set cussing like...well, like Eminem. But that debate faded pretty quickly, perhaps because it was hard to imagine that many old soldiers watching at home were gasping that they never heard language like that in the Army. Instead we're now arguing about the fact that Bruce Springsteen, Dave Grohl, and Zac Brown played Creedence Clearwater Revival's resentful anthem "Fortunate Son," a Vietnam-era jeremiad against the people who send Americans into wars their own kids won't fight.
[...]
That part of the set list pissed off some hawks, who seem to think the trio should have saved it for some antiwar holiday—I dunno, Armistice Day or something. The Weekly Standard's Ethan Epstein complained that the song is "an anti-war screed, taking shots at 'the red white and blue.'" The actual lyric is a bit different: "Some folks are born made to wave the flag/Ooh, they're red, white, and blue/And when the band plays 'Hail to the Chief'/They point the cannon at you." Epstein has evidently confused people who wrap themselves in the flag with the flag itself.

A better description of the song's theme comes from Outside the Beltway's Doug Mataconis, who asks: "Is there anything that more accurately portrays the reality of who fought in Vietnam, who sent them there, and who was able to get away with not fighting there?" If the authorities ever create a holiday to honor the people who declare wars, I suppose the song might be a disrespectful choice for it, but there's nothing there that sneers at the people who actually fought. (The guy who wrote the track certainly doesn't think so.)

"Fortunate Son" was undeniably opposed to the Vietnam War. It's also a song whose sentiments a lot of Vietnam veterans would endorse. Of course there's also a lot of vets who wouldn't endorse it, but that's just as true of any pro-war ditty that might meet The Weekly Standard's approval. Wars are controversial, not just among the general public but among the people who fight them. (According to a Washington Post poll released earlier this year, half the veterans of the Iraq and Afghan wars now say the invasion of Iraq wasn't worth it.) As with wars, so with music: Some people in the audience reportedly jeered during the performance, but the crowd in the video looks pretty happy.

Some of them even waved the flag. I kind of wish the band had played "Hail to the Chief," just to see what would have happened.

[Anti Federalist]

Heh.

Good.

Damn shame Grohl is an Obama-bot.

He really should know better.

[Anti Federalist]

Heh.

Good.

Damn shame Grohl is an Obama-bot.

He really should know better.

[Dr.3D]

who's Bruce Springfield?
Suppose he has anything to do with the M1 Garand?

[Dianne]

My guess is that he chose songs he felt the vets could relate to- not ones considered "pro war". In concert he will also sometimes play Edwin Starr's "War- What Is It Good For". He has never been a "pro war" singer.

I don't have a problem with it at all.. The few military lifers I know feel the same way as the song and have no respect for that "thing" living in the White House.

[Pericles]

I don't follow... how was singing this song tantamount to taking a steaming shit on Obama's head?

Not so long ago Springsteen was very busily sucking Bammy's dick. Is there something you left out?

I just can't bring myself to give a rat's donkey about this whole thing.

[Lucille]

Jack Hunter wrote a good piece on it.

“Fortunate Son” Is Antiwar, and Pro-Military
Conservative hawks keep confusing supporting the troops with endorsing the wars.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/fortunate-son-is-antiwar-and-pro-military/


Epstein wasn’t alone. Other conservatives also took offense, believing the song was somehow “anti-military.”

This is completely backward.

Fortunate Son is not “anti-military.” It is anti-elite. It is anti-politician. It is anti-Washington.

And yes, it is antiwar.

War is bad. This should not be a controversial statement. Most people of any ideology should be able to agree that even when war is necessary, it is a necessary evil. In 1946, General Dwight Eisenhower delivered an antiwar screed of his own: “I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.”

Was Ike antimilitary? He was certainly antiwar.

War is brutal, futile, and stupid. Eisenhower saw battle firsthand. In “Fortunate Son,” John Fogerty asks why middle- and lower-class Americans are forced to see war up close while the political elite gets to keep a safe distance.

“Fortunate Son” is antiwar precisely because it is pro-military. It advocates for regular Americans who fight wars and against elites who make them.

This is a distinction conservative hawks find hard to make, or simply don’t want to make. If your ideology consists largely of pushing for every war Barack Obama or John McCain thinks is a good idea, “supporting the troops” inevitably means supporting the wars themselves. [...]

There is a disconnect between the people who actually fight America’s wars and the political class that dictates U.S. foreign policy. The conservative critics of Bruce Springsteen singing “Fortunate Son” in honor of America’s veterans Tuesday are part of the same political class Fogerty skewered in the 1960s—those who wave the “red, white and blue” in support of war first and, unintentionally, soldiers second. Sang Fogerty “And when you ask ‘em, ‘How much should we give?’ Ooh, they only answer ‘More! More! More!”

The Weekly Standard’s Ethan Epstein thought “Fortunate Son” was offensive at an event to “honor those who volunteered to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

One has to wonder if Epstein thought the Concert for Valor was just as much about honoring the wars themselves.

No doubt. I thought it was telling that the two failed neo-Trot wars (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?462975-A-lieutenant-general-regrets-the-wasted-lives-of-his-soldiers-thrown-away-for-two-failed-wars) were the only ones he mentioned.

Fogerty's response: http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-fogerty-reacts-to-controversy-over-fortunate-son-at-concert-for-valor-2/

He actually performed it himself last week on the lawn of the White House, during PBS’s broadcast A Salute to the Troops.

"Now it is nothing rare for kings and nobles to make war; that is their game, for which lesser men pay the reckoning."
--Isabel Paterson