Now is the time for you to sign up with your local martial arts dojo

[limequat]

This thread is inspired by a video posted by Presence in another thread.


Slap to the back of the head?

Time and again I feel the thing that keeps us from freedom in this country is a lack of martial arts training.

Cop needed a brachial stun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcaOr1TBA1w

And here is the cop video that prompted the response:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XExqABO4kc&feature=share


Now, it should be plain to see how easy it would have been for the gentlemen from the first video to execute this move on the belligerent swine animal from the second.
Do we really hold that the most libertarian solution to police brutality is to just take it and capture it on video? Or does self defense apply to all sorts of criminals? Hint, see my sig.
It's not good enough to depend on others to provide for our well being. It's time to learn responsibility -not just with firearms- but with all of our faculties.

Martial arts training...
* Supports local business
* Is great exercise (keeps you healthy)
* Is a good way to meet new people
* Teaches responsibility
* and of course...teaches self defense

I encourage everyone here to check out Ju-Jitsu, Tae-Kwon Do, Karate, kick boxing, whatever. I've been doing one for only a few months, and the results are astounding. Not just in my body, or my skill, but my attitude. It's time for us to start living freedom.

[heavenlyboy34]

martialartsplanet.com <-- A forum full of lots of helpful folks who can help you decide which art is best for you and find a local club. dojos.info<-- one of several good sites that help you locate a dojo/gym/club near you.

Also, not all martial arts are useful for self defense, but many are. Tae Kwon Do, for example, is just a sport, IMO. (better than nothing, but still not effective SD, IMHO) Whatever you choose to do, make sure the club does plenty of sparring. As a general rule, no sparring=McDojo. The club may teach various kata or forms at world class level, but that's just dance-the useful aspect of kata is learning how to apply the forms in sparring/fighting.

ETA: I recommend learning at least one traditional weapon because it will give you skills to use everyday objects you can find on a street or wherever as defensive weapons.

[LibForestPaul]

Whatever you choose to do, make sure the club does plenty of sparring. As a general rule, no sparring=McDojo.

Bags don't hit back. Quite different throwing a punch after being knocked in the head. And avoid grappling. You want dirty dojo. Balls, eyes, throat, and run. quick and dirty

[thoughtomator]

Bags don't hit back. Quite different throwing a punch after being knocked in the head. And avoid grappling. You want dirty dojo. Balls, eyes, throat, and run. quick and dirty

Sparring partners don't come back with a platoon armed with body armor, fully automatic weapons, and an MRAP.

The situation is such that whether you throw one punch, or do the full Dornerfrein, they will very likely kill you. So if you are resolved to violence, it's to the end.

The other alternative is record, and and hope you survive to sue.

[amy31416]

Yeah. Being a chick, if you're going to fight someone, it's not to "win," it's to kill or demobilize. At least that's how my dad taught me--upward punch to the nose, punch to the neck, kick to the nether regions, a stomp on the feet alongside an elbow to the gut.

Only had to use that info once, thankfully.

Of course, if the "opponent" has a gun to your head, all bets are off.

[heavenlyboy34]

Sparring partners don't come back with a platoon armed with body armor, fully automatic weapons, and an MRAP.

The situation is such that whether you throw one punch, or do the full Dornerfrein, they will very likely kill you. So if you are resolved to violence, it's to the end.

The other alternative is record, and and hope you survive to sue.

Yeah, but that's well beyond the scope of the OP's point about self-defense. (btw, the only MA I know of that deals specifically with disarming a person with a gun is Krav Maga, but there are probably others)

[limequat]

Sparring partners don't come back with a platoon armed with body armor, fully automatic weapons, and an MRAP.

The situation is such that whether you throw one punch, or do the full Dornerfrein, they will very likely kill you. So if you are resolved to violence, it's to the end.

The other alternative is record, and and hope you survive to sue.

I disagree. One of my instructors worked as bouncer and has learned all the implications of defending oneself on camera. He routinely shows us how to break the arm of the opponent with palms up and saying things like "don't hurt me" or "I don't want to fight".
Imagine if that piece of excrement broke his arm trying to slap a citizen. "I don't know what happened. He hit me, but then he fell down and I guess broke his arm when he fell."
Do you have to allow a cop to strike you for no reason? What if the poor guy in the video simply blocked the slap?

However, cops often like to work alone when they are -say- raping a victim on the hood of a car. In that case it would be harder to find out why the cops neck is broken. No shell casings, no loud bangs, no blood splatter.

[limequat]

There will be no justice in their courts.

There will be no reform with a subdued populace.

Don't be a victim and hope that the system will indemnify you.

[heavenlyboy34]

There will be no justice in their courts.

There will be no reform with a subdued populace.

Don't be a victim and hope that the system will indemnify you.
This^^

[tommyrp12]

Sweet thread i used to practice Kempo when i was a kid and i took a few tai chi classes before a local place went out of business as a adult. I do read about it and practice the Yang 108 long form , not as much as i should though. I like to do shaolin Qi gong more and tend to do that routine. I have a book on shaolin Chin NA i used the principals to escape being subdued during a state sanctioned kidnapping. It worked up until the batons came out and they gained the numbers on me. Then i was held without a charge or due process for weeks. Not cool.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz_AweRbFOI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjY65JlKpRE

Dr.Yang company YMAA sells high quality instructional material i definitely would give it a look. Although you really cant replace the class room for applications, so still try to find instruction some where.

[heavenlyboy34]

Sweet thread i used to practice Kempo when i was a kid and i took a few tai chi classes before a local place went out of business as a adult. I do read about it and practice the Yang 108 long form , not as much as i should though. I like to do shaolin Qi gong more and tend to do that routine. I have a book on shaolin Chin NA i used the principals to escape being subdued during a state sanctioned kidnapping. It worked up until the batons came out and they gained the numbers on me. Then i was held without a charge or due process for weeks. Not cool.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz_AweRbFOI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjY65JlKpRE

Dr.Yang company YMAA sells high quality instructional material i definitely would give it a look. Although you really cant replace the class room for applications, so still try to find instruction some where.
Chin Na is awesome. :) If you can't find a club/school, an aikido dojo is a good alternative and pretty plentiful. (and you get to wear neat hakamas for aikido :cool: )

[tommyrp12]

Chin Na is awesome. :) If you can't find a club/school, an aikido dojo is a good alternative and pretty plentiful. (and you get to wear neat hakamas for aikido :cool: )

Yup it has Chin Na incorporated.

Chin Na (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin_Na)

Since Chinese culture has influenced countries like Japan and Korea, Chinese martial arts has influenced their indigenous styles as well. Aikido and Jujutsu developed in Japan, and Hapkido found in Korea, had taken their Chin Na techniques from Chinese martials arts.

[presence]

Of course, if the "opponent" has a gun to your head, all bets are off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=9vc6y7BrujA


More:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gun+disarm

[heavenlyboy34]

Bags don't hit back. Quite different throwing a punch after being knocked in the head. And avoid grappling. You want dirty dojo. Balls, eyes, throat, and run. quick and dirty

I glanced over this before somehow...NO!! Grappling is a VERY useful defensive skill. That's why pretty much every soldier in the world learns it to some extent or another.

[RJB]

Yeah, but that's well beyond the scope of the OP's point about self-defense. (btw, the only MA I know of that deals specifically with disarming a person with a gun is Krav Maga, but there are probably others)

Systema is a martial art based on the Slavic styles used by the Russian Spetsnaz. They do a lot not just with disarming firearms but using firearms. I took a course on fighting with a firearm that was really good and very eye opening as to my own weaknesses.

[presence]

http://makegif.com/gIDf.gif (http://makegif.com/gIDf)

In the "marine neck chop" video notice at 0:42 the way the falling marine's left hand twists down and pronates. This is


"decebrate posturing"

its a nerve response that could not be helped, which highlights the effectiveness of this "knife strike" to the neck/collar.

http://blog.medivisuals.com/Portals/55295/images/Brachial-Plexus-205299_02XA.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_posturing


http://dxline.info/img/new_ail/decerebrate-posture.JPG

[heavenlyboy34]

Systema is a martial art based on the Slavic styles used by the Russian Spetsnaz. They do a lot not just with disarming firearms but using firearms. I took a course on fighting with a firearm that was really good and very eye opening as to my own weaknesses.
O, shit...forgot about Systema. :o Combat sambo looks cool too, btw. :cool: