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cindy25
11-05-2014, 06:17 AM
McCain, mainly because of immigration, will face a 2016 primary. if its a Goldwater vs McCain will Rand break senate etiquette and do the right thing?

XNavyNuke
11-05-2014, 06:42 AM
If doing the right thing coincides with the political calculus during the election run up, then I would say yes. I don't think that he would champion a lost cause.

XNN

presence
11-05-2014, 07:00 AM
I'm with XNN, only if its already a win... He just stirred the shit with #hillaryslosers social media campaign

Vanguard101
11-05-2014, 04:31 PM
He didn't back Lee Bright. Then again, Lee Bright was kinda similar to Bachmann.

William Tell
11-05-2014, 04:36 PM
He has yet to back a challenger in a federal race. He backed Huffines for Texas State Senate against an incumbent, though.

Vanguard101
11-05-2014, 04:40 PM
He has yet to back a challenger in a federal race. He backed Huffines for Texas State Senate against an incumbent, though.
I didn't even realize this.

I guess for Huffines, it provided no net loss and Huffines is affiliated with C4L. Texas might be interesting considering there are a lot of reps more aligned with Rand on the political spectrum, but they most likely will back Cruz. If people like Simpson or Huffines endorsed Cruz, I honestly could not be mad.

RandallFan
11-05-2014, 04:54 PM
McCain and Jeff Flake have the lowest approval of any Senators of a flip flop on immigration. They ran as securing the border completely as one issue with none of this triggers BS.

I dont think Rand wants to touch the AZ Senate race, because of immigration, when I think he should make some sort of moves about McCain and Flake breaking promises on gay marriage, ENDA(gay trial lawyers bill) and other issues that the GOP voters might be pissed about.

William Tell
11-05-2014, 05:09 PM
I didn't even realize this.

I guess for Huffines, it provided no net loss and Huffines is affiliated with C4L. Texas might be interesting considering there are a lot of reps more aligned with Rand on the political spectrum, but they most likely will back Cruz. If people like Simpson or Huffines endorsed Cruz, I honestly could not be mad.
Simpson and Huffines are firmly in Rand's pocket. Simpson endorsed Ron in 2012, and was campaigning for him in 2008.
Huffines and Ron have been friends since the 80s, I recently found Ron's endorsement letter for him.




http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/cimages/9712f553eeb54df4c700abc96d8f0cb4/liberty_PAC_header600x150.jpg
Dear Kurt,

Overspending. Excessive regulations. Never ending assaults on our liberties. Smoky backroom deals from establishment members of BOTH parties.

You might think I’m talking about Washington, D.C. But sadly, more and more, you can say all those same things about our state-level politics here in Texas.

Kurt, like you, I’m proud to call Texas my home. And I’m proud that Texas is one of the few bright spots of economic growth throughout the country today.

But if you and I want to keep our liberties, we need more politicians in Austin who are willing to fight for them.

That’s why I’ve endorsed my good friend Don Huffines for the Texas State Senate.

Today, I’m asking you to please give as generously as you can to his campaign (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/16452608:18093259715:m:1:234524718:5E93F82A738341B 31D94CD25FC2AEFFE:r).

I’ve known Don for years. We first met in the 1980s, and I was honored to have his help and support when I returned to Congress in 1996 and my subsequent campaigns.

Over the years, I’ve also leaned on Don for his sound advice.

He understands, like I do, that when government grows, freedom diminishes.

And as a business owner, Don knows the importance of balancing a checkbook.

Don’s family has owned an automobile dealership for three generations. Don himself founded and built one of the largest real estate development firms in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

If elected, I can tell you he’ll fight hard to cut taxes and spending, stand up for our Second Amendment, protect our civil liberties, and our Tenth Amendment freedoms.

I’m happy to endorse Don’s campaign. You can see my endorsement letter of his campaign below.

If at all possible, please contribute as generously as you can to Don’s campaign right away (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/16452608:18093259715:m:1:234524718:5E93F82A738341B 31D94CD25FC2AEFFE:r).

For Liberty,
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Ron Paul


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Rudeman
11-05-2014, 06:00 PM
Unlikely unless the candidate was 100% going to beat McCain. Rand would likely just stay out of the race like he has with others.

idiom
11-05-2014, 06:29 PM
Rand will be in the primary fight of his life.

It will depend on the state of play, if McCain can help carry Arizona, an endorsement should be sought. If McCain is toxic electorally, then throw him under the bus as part of a wider 'cleaning house' theme of the campaign.

It can't be a light weight thing. It would have to be huge, tar and feathering McCain as a war monger and Hillary ally.

Everything about the primary has to be Balls-To-The-Wall Hillary bashing. Attack her relentlessly and anything that smells like her. Good time to change the GOP establishment out by tying Hillary to everything anti-liberty.

surf
11-05-2014, 06:30 PM
I hopes so.

i'll back a liberty candidate (or just about anyone short of a warmongering-white-supremacist-communist-fill-in-the _______ ) over McWar.

Mr.NoSmile
11-05-2014, 07:16 PM
He didn't back Lee Bright. Then again, Lee Bright was kinda similar to Bachmann.

And because none of Graham's primary challengers had a realistic chance of doing any damage.

TaftFan
11-05-2014, 08:54 PM
And because none of Graham's primary challengers had a realistic chance of doing any damage.

They would have if Rand and Cruz got involved, just saying.

Christian Liberty
11-05-2014, 08:57 PM
He didn't back Lee Bright. Then again, Lee Bright was kinda similar to Bachmann.

I was compared to Bachmann recently by a Christian friend because I said I believe God will judge America for its foreign policy. lol...

r3volution 3.0
11-05-2014, 08:58 PM
I hopes so.

Indeed

i'll back a liberty candidate (or just about anyone short of a warmongering-white-supremacist-communist-fill-in-the _______ ) over McWar.

Indeed

It would be worthwhile to replace McCain with someone of identical views, just to get rid of McCain the person.

Vanguard101
11-05-2014, 09:40 PM
Simpson and Huffines are firmly in Rand's pocket. Simpson endorsed Ron in 2012, and was campaigning for him in 2008.
Huffines and Ron have been friends since the 80s, I recently found Ron's endorsement letter for him.


http://www.meetup.com/cfl-tarrant/messages/62469992/

Maybe Simpson was a bad example

brandon
11-05-2014, 09:50 PM
XNN pretty much laid it out there and ended the thread.

The only thing I'd add is that its extremely unlikely campaigning against any republican in 2016 would be good political maneuvering for a Republican presidential candidate.

erowe1
11-05-2014, 10:09 PM
It will depend on the state of play, if McCain can help carry Arizona, an endorsement should be sought.

McCain endorsing Rand in the primary? Impossible.

William Tell
11-05-2014, 10:32 PM
Maybe Simpson was a bad example

Burton would likely back Cruz, but none of that matters anyway, since Cruz could almost certainly win Texas if he stayed in the race that long.

H. E. Panqui
11-05-2014, 10:38 PM
Rand has always been disappointing..Stinking Romney, McConnell, IZraeli warmongerism, all-around mealy-mouthedness..

...like the rest of the puppets, NEVER an honest, focused peep about the stinking banksters acquiring bond$ for nothing, etc. fraud ad nauseam..

idiom
11-06-2014, 02:05 PM
McCain endorsing Rand in the primary? Impossible.

He can play politics better than most. If Rand has pretty good odds and McCain is dicey... he might decide to throw in.

CaptainAmerica
11-06-2014, 02:17 PM
I would hope so, but only if that candidate could beat the democrat in the general

Galileo Galilei
11-06-2014, 03:05 PM
McCain, mainly because of immigration, will face a 2016 primary. if its a Goldwater vs McCain will Rand break senate etiquette and do the right thing?

McCain won't run again. He is old and unwell.

erowe1
11-06-2014, 03:36 PM
He can play politics better than most. If Rand has pretty good odds and McCain is dicey... he might decide to throw in.

No way. I'm not even sure if McCain would endorse Rand against Hillary in the general election.

JJ2
11-06-2014, 04:00 PM
McCain won't run again. He is old and unwell.

He says he is leaning towards running in 2016 and will announce it in early 2015.

eleganz
11-06-2014, 04:23 PM
The obvious answer is : depends on polling.