So, how much freedom will we have restored two years from now? [Archive]

Anti Federalist

11-04-2014, 10:36 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

CPUd

11-04-2014, 10:37 PM

Will bump this thread in 2 years to see.

Anti Federalist

11-04-2014, 10:40 PM

Will bump this thread in 2 years to see.

That's why I started it.

AuH20

11-04-2014, 10:40 PM

You wonder if the people in power will ever recognize that the current trend line doesn't bode well for their health? There could be gradual defections here and there as we reach the crucible.

Anti Federalist

11-04-2014, 10:41 PM

http://i.imgur.com/IJsENvOm.jpg

rp08orbust

11-04-2014, 10:41 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

-5.278 Rothbards, in absolute terms.

In relative terms, the US will probably slide a few more spots down Cato's freedom indexes.

tangent4ronpaul

11-04-2014, 10:41 PM

Will bump this thread in 2 years to see.

I've never found a calender that went out more than 1.5 years - you must have a great memory...

-t

sparebulb

11-04-2014, 10:42 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Mitsubishi-Zero/IMAGES/Mitsubishi-A6M-Zero-Kamikaze-Inflight2.jpg

Root

11-04-2014, 10:42 PM

I'll say we lose, government grows.

Mani

11-04-2014, 10:43 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

Ask that question again and you will be reported. That's how much freedom you have.. Now shut the fuck up and go back to watching the pretty ladies on TV explain it to you.

rp08orbust

11-04-2014, 10:43 PM

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Mitsubishi-Zero/IMAGES/Mitsubishi-A6M-Zero-Kamikaze-Inflight2.jpg

I've already rep'ed you, but is that really a Zero? It looks like it could be a two-seater.

dillo

11-04-2014, 10:43 PM

Does this mean the war on christmas is over

tangent4ronpaul

11-04-2014, 10:43 PM

http://i.imgur.com/IJsENvOm.jpg

Sans text - that looks a lot like a mine field warning flag...

-t

kcchiefs6465

11-04-2014, 10:44 PM

The obvious is obvious.

Anti Federalist

11-04-2014, 10:44 PM

Ask that question again and you will be reported. That's how much freedom you have.. Now shut the fuck up and go back to watching the pretty ladies on TV explain it to you.

Yes, sir.

sparebulb

11-04-2014, 10:54 PM

I've already rep'ed you, but is that really a Zero? It looks like it could be a two-seater.

I figure that if it is flying, it's not a real zero. I think that there are only 2 or 3 left flying in the world. Somewhere, I got the impression that most of the flying examples are modified AT-6's.

Anti Federalist

11-04-2014, 11:06 PM

I figure that if it is flying, it's not a real zero. I think that there are only 2 or 3 left flying in the world. Somewhere, I got the impression that most of the flying examples are modified AT-6's.

This is the real deal.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/A6M3_Zero_N712Z_1.jpg/640px-A6M3_Zero_N712Z_1.jpg

NorthCarolinaLiberty

11-04-2014, 11:07 PM

People on tee vee need their asses kicked good.

Natural Citizen

11-04-2014, 11:14 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

Well. I agree with you whole heartedly. I suppose the more relevant way to ask the question would be freedom for whom? The good guys or the bad guys?

Personally, I see America anxiously moving toward a different wrong track. Will see, I suppose.

ClydeCoulter

11-04-2014, 11:35 PM

Well. I agree with you whole heartedly. I suppose the more relevant way to ask the question would be freedom for whom? The good guys or the bad guys?

Personally, I see America anxiously moving toward a different wrong track. Will see, I suppose.

I understand what you see. And I also have a bad feeling about it. I'm a bit put-off by many of the things that I see happening, the memes.

But, it is up to us, and not all of us agree completely but perhaps many of us do fundamentally. It is up to us to keep speaking out, so that others cannot unhear, as Ron said.

I have seen a few glimpses of hope from conversations with others. Just a little knowledge or some idea here and there. Then, I see those that I have spoke with, without force or condemnation, begin to speak similarly in posts and comments.

Love them, speak to their hearts, and they will listen. Pound and condemn and accuse, and they will wholeheartedly turn away.

Brian4Liberty

11-05-2014, 12:18 AM

So, how much freedom will we have restored two years from now?

We will hold ground on the Second Amendment. We will lose ground everywhere else.

sparebulb

11-05-2014, 12:34 AM

Now that freedom is going to be restored, I'm going to invest in freedom fries and those little yellow ribbon stickers that people put on the backs of cars that encourage people to support our troops.

Maybe worthy of a thread of it's own, but now that the election is over, I'm pretty sure that we will be able to smell the freedom coming from the peace bombs that the freedom warriors are going to set off all over Ferguson. We can put all that silly talk behind us about demilitarizing the police now that the Reds are in charge.

Media talking point for the next few days: This election was not only a repudiation of the Obama presidency, it was also a repudiation of the radical Tea Party fringe of the party.

Discuss....

Christian Liberty

11-05-2014, 12:36 AM

Liberty lost, just like it always does...

The only reason I'm not totally indifferent is that I'm sad my Republican friends are happy...

Spikender

11-05-2014, 12:39 AM

A little more freedom when it comes to marijuana, losses in all other respects.

tangent4ronpaul

11-05-2014, 12:45 AM

MrGoose

11-05-2014, 01:04 AM

I think Rand will get some good legislation through. Republicans will try and get rid of Obamacare and fail. Attempt at immigration reform that will fail because of Republican infighting.

Occam's Banana

11-05-2014, 01:31 AM

So, how much [freedom] will be restored in two year's time?

-5.278 Rothbards, in absolute terms.

Good Lord!! THAT much?!

You, sir, seem to be quite the optimist ...

:p;)

PRB

11-05-2014, 01:37 AM

more gay marriage states and more legal pot states, don't expect much else.

orenbus

11-05-2014, 01:46 AM

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nobody's_hero

11-05-2014, 02:19 AM

We will hold ground on the Second Amendment. We will lose ground everywhere else.

Don't see much good it will do when people don't understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment and think their guns are just relics for a curio cabinet. And hunting or shooting clays.

I actually had a guy I used to shoot with tell me one day that he thinks its crazy that GA was contemplating allowing guns to be carried in churches even if the church leaders didn't mind.

The 2nd Amendment is still far from safe.

ChristianAnarchist

11-05-2014, 11:05 AM

One thing certain no matter what goons are in charge... the average joe (and jane) loses...

Anti Federalist

11-05-2014, 11:10 AM

529809020777795584

Was watching the neocon talking head parade on the morning news shows, and this is exactly what will happen and what they are crowing about.

Hard line against Russia.

Hard line against Assad.

Hard line against Iran.

"Stamp out" IS.

Of rolling back the Surveillance State, of restoring or protecting individual liberties, of shrinking the size, scope and power of government, not a fucking peep.

jbauer

11-05-2014, 11:11 AM

Not one damn inch

JK/SEA

11-05-2014, 11:12 AM

''welcome to the Grand Illusion, come on in and see what's happenin', pay your price get your ticket for the show...''

Anti Federalist

11-05-2014, 11:14 AM

The voting booth in modern day AmeriKa.

http://redstatewitch.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/self-ass-kicking-machine.jpg

jbauer

11-05-2014, 11:16 AM

pffff, freedom. who cares? MichelleO said I get fried chicken today. Isn't that enough?

Anti Federalist

11-05-2014, 11:23 AM

What Will Republican Control of the Senate Mean?

Laurence M. Vance

For the first time since 2006, Republicans have control of the Senate (or at least they will at the beginning of the year). What will Republican control of the Senate, and therefore total control of the Congress, mean? As someone who has studied the actions of the Republican Party for over 20 years—including the legislation they have passed or helped to pass, the bills they have introduced that did not pass, the speeches Republicans have made, the Party Platforms they have adopted, and the budgets they have proposed—I can say without hesitation that it will mean absolutely nothing. They will continue to spend, spend, spend, bomb, bomb, bomb, tax, tax, tax, and regulate, regulate, regulate. Watch them for the next two years and try to prove me wrong. I will be watching them like a hawk

acptulsa

11-05-2014, 11:23 AM

Ask not what these bozos will do to you. Ask what we will do to further expose and discredit these bozos.

Ronin Truth

11-05-2014, 01:44 PM

I'll SWAG less than today and more than three years from now.

Czolgosz

11-05-2014, 01:54 PM

By all accounts from the media I am watching, a major shift in DC power has taken place.

The only metric that I care about is freedom.

So, how much will be restored in two year's time?

Some token crumbs.

sparebulb

11-05-2014, 06:08 PM

I'll SWAG less than today and more than three years from now.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/swagv/avatars/bender-swag.jpg

jkr

11-05-2014, 06:37 PM

will it stop cops from arresting people feeding the homeless???

Cleaner44

11-05-2014, 08:11 PM

I understand what you see. And I also have a bad feeling about it. I'm a bit put-off by many of the things that I see happening, the memes.

But, it is up to us, and not all of us agree completely but perhaps many of us do fundamentally. It is up to us to keep speaking out, so that others cannot unhear, as Ron said.

I have seen a few glimpses of hope from conversations with others. Just a little knowledge or some idea here and there. Then, I see those that I have spoke with, without force or condemnation, begin to speak similarly in posts and comments.

Love them, speak to their hearts, and they will listen. Pound and condemn and accuse, and they will wholeheartedly turn away.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ClydeCoulter again.

Christian Liberty

11-05-2014, 08:36 PM

will it stop cops from arresting people feeding the homeless???

No, that would imply Christians controlling the government rather than Republicans.

pcosmar

11-05-2014, 09:06 PM

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Mitsubishi-Zero/IMAGES/Mitsubishi-A6M-Zero-Kamikaze-Inflight2.jpg

This is the real deal.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/A6M3_Zero_N712Z_1.jpg/640px-A6M3_Zero_N712Z_1.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/6/8/9/0673986.jpg

http://www.asian-defence.net/2010/12/japanese-stealth-fighter-mitsubishi-atd.html

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/880/mitsubishiatdx1.jpg