Will tonight's results help or hurt Hillary's chances in 2016?

[green73]

The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?

[anaconda]

Probably help whomever the D nominee is. Republicans will get more blame for stuff over the next two years.

[CPUd]

It will hurt Joe Biden, but probably not Hillary.

[TheTexan]

This is an important question with meaningful consequences that warrants further discussion.

I for one believe that these results will help Hillary's chances in 2016. Democrats will need a win after this.

[pcosmar]

The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?

A win for Jeb Bush?

/shudder

[green73]

A win for Jeb Bush?

/shudder

What's your thinking behind that?

[jmdrake]

This is an important question with meaningful consequences that warrants further discussion.

I for one believe that these results will help Hillary's chances in 2016. Democrats will need a win after this.

Sure. But will they want baggage from the Obama administration of Obama was seen as dragging dems down?

[green73]

Sure. But will they want baggage from the Obama administration of Obama was seen as dragging dems down?

What baggage? In two years time with the American short-term memory, they will have a much stronger case to be made for themselves. That's the democracy dance!

[Mr.NoSmile]

The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?

Dems on the way out? Ha. Sitting presidents' party usually don't do so hot during midterms, if 2010 is any indication. Republicans are losing the war on rhetoric and alienating a lot of voters that aren't well off White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants, not to mention sitting with the label of 'no.' The Dems are still in it.

[pcosmar]

What's your thinking behind that?

Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate.. a prediction.

Watch and see.

[Peace&Freedom]

Hillary will net benefit, because as established in past cycles, after some midterm gains, Republicans will pridefully think they can coast into the White House by pushing yet another milquetoast moderate who alienates their own base. Marquee example was 2010---after the Democrats got the worst midterms congressional beating in 150 years, and with the whole country speaking as one to repeal Obamacare, the GOP nominated the one candidate who was the most fatally flawed on the issue (Romney, of Romneycare).

So, buoyed by the complete takeover of Congress in this election, with the damaged brand called Hillary on the horizon, the Republican leadership will no doubt push for the even more damaged Bush as its standard bearer come 2016.

[CPUd]

Some demographics:

http://i.imgur.com/4unov9B.png

[georgiaboy]

It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

It's all about the economy.

If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.

[tangent4ronpaul]

This will change the bottleneck from the Senate to Obama, and he will run interference. as people will get totally screwed under these policies, Hillaries chances will go down the spiral of the porcelain god.

Health care costs are going up 50% this year. More next. THe non-compliance tax this year is $100, IN 2015 It will be $650.

-t

[enhanced_deficit]

I doubt it that next two years of gop Congress control will be of much help for Hillay "what difference does it make" Clinton (despite all the efforts they may make).. the damage done by swc is too massive to be out of memory spans in two years.
And the reminder will remain in WH for those two years.

[green73]

It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

It's all about the economy.

If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.

OMG LOL

[oyarde]

The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?

It does not hurt a Dem , the votes for them come from much different places and lots of them .

[mad cow]

The Dems will have to run against Obama's 8 years,much like the GOP against Bush in '08.
Hillary has no chance,she is too closely tied to the Obama administration,it will be somebody else.
The GOP will likely snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again by trying to outdo the Dems in socialism and Statism over the next two years and then nominate some moron for President like they have for the last....I am too tired and too disgusted to think about how long it's been.
When was Coolidge?

[MrGoose]

Well it depends if they start passing legislation that benefits the people. The REDEEM ACT is a start. Keystone pipeline is another. I can't see Obama vetoing the pipeline. I expect these to be on the table first thing when they get sworn in.

[r3volution 3.0]

The Republicans will continually send relatively modest bills to Obama's desk over the next two years.

These will be bills with widespread support both within the GOP and amoung the electorate as a whole.

If he accepts them, the Republicans can claim these as accomplishments - and I think that's the most likely outcome.

If he rejects them, the Republicans can turn the "party of obstruction" narrative around.

Either way, the big win tonight helps them a lot for 2016.

[seapilot]

Since Repubs control both house and senate now they can back a real conservative candidate if they choose. If they win and the majority does not like thier polices they do not have to support them completely. An example is Bush could have opened ANWR when Repubs controlled everything for oil exploration but guys like McCain blocked it. THere are enough RINOs to keep a real conservative president in check from changing the status quo.

[PRB]

It means Democrats will be crying non-stop about voter fraud, voter ID laws, super PACs and whatever conspiracy theories they conveniently forget whenever they win an election.

It means birthers and tea party will finally STFU until summer of 2015.

[PRB]

The Republicans will continually send relatively modest bills to Obama's desk over the next two years.

These will be bills with widespread support both within the GOP and amoung the electorate as a whole.

If he accepts them, the Republicans can claim these as accomplishments - and I think that's the most likely outcome.

If he rejects them, the Republicans can turn the "party of obstruction" narrative around.

Either way, the big win tonight helps them a lot for 2016.

can you say lame duck halftime?

[Mr.NoSmile]

Some demographics:

http://i.imgur.com/4unov9B.png

Let's be honest, not like the GOP is in any position to win the demographics race if you don't count White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

[Deborah K]

It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

It's all about the economy.

If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.

If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.

[acptulsa]

If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.

Well, there will be another Democrat in the White House, anyway, though I think Clinton is as overhyped and unelectable now as she was in 2008.

But if Republicans pass repeal after repeal after repeal--become neither a 'do-nothing Congress' nor a do-everything Congress, but what we really need, an undo-everything Congress, none of it will get past the White House un-vetoed and the Republicans will enter January 2017 in every federal elective office.

But then, of course, people will expect them to undo all that shit and make it stick--at which point we will be easily able to separate the conservatives from the RINOs. So, since some things do trump partisanship up in Washington, I sincerely doubt we'll see this plan implemented.

[Deborah K]

Well, there will be another Democrat in the White House, anyway, though I think Clinton is as overhyped and unelectable now as she was in 2008.

But if Republicans pass repeal after repeal after repeal--become neither a 'do-nothing Congress' nor a do-everything Congress, but what we really need, an undo-everything Congress, none of it will get past the White House un-vetoed and the Republicans will enter January 2017 in every federal elective office.

But then, of course, people will expect them to undo all that shit and make it stick--at which point we will be easily able to separate the conservatives from the RINOs. So, since some things do trump partisanship up in Washington, I sincerely doubt we'll see this plan implemented.

I like what Reagan said about the gov't 'undoing all that shit'. (starts at 36 sec)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2QO5XfDh3U

[ZENemy]

Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate.. a prediction.

Watch and see.

Ahhh Jeb nepotism bush, the perfect piece of shit to awaken the false dichotomy right before they install Hillary.

[ZENemy]

If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.

Hillary will not win she be installed.



If you do not agree you are a conspiracy theorist, sexist, racist tea bagger that kills baby illegal immigrants for fun with guns.

[acptulsa]

Ahhh Jeb nepotism bush, the perfect piece of shit to awaken the false dichotomy right before they install Hillary.

He would be her only hope. He's the only monster who could possibly make her look good.

BUSH vs. CLINTON 2016

Are we really stupid enough to settle for this?

C'mon, everybody! Let's do the RINO/DINO/Lino-dance!


https://youtube.com/watch?v=mSC6m4LPW1Y

[AuH20]

How does Hillary separate herself from the muck that is Barack Obama? A good share of his cabinet are Clintonites.

[Deborah K]

How does Hillary separate herself from the muck that is Barack Obama? A good share of his cabinet are Clintonites.

Oh, it will be an uphill climb for her - no doubt. She has Benghazi, support for Obamacare, and Lewinski to contend with, just to name a couple of things. But we're talking the Teflon Clintons here.

[CaptUSA]

Oh, it will be an uphill climb for her - no doubt. She has Benghazi, support for Obamacare, and Lewinski to contend with, just to name a couple of things. But we're talking the Teflon Clintons here.

Teflon, indeed. She's a brilliant tactician, but she's not as adept at pulling it off as her husband is. She'll try to take credit for anything good that comes out of Obama's 8 years, while trying to deflect the bad. I bet she'll slide away from Obamacare, coast through on Lewinsky, take credit for an improving economy, but what's going to hurt her is foreign policy. She really had no achievements during her term and there were lots of failures. She will try to take credit for Bin Laden, but that's only going to take her so far. The world has gotten much more chaotic in the last decade.

[pcosmar]

I like what Reagan said

Too bad what he said was not what he did.

[ZENemy]

How does Hillary separate herself from the muck that is Barack Obama? A good share of his cabinet are Clintonites.

They do not really see that as a negative, the bigger he fails the more she can come in with "he did this wrong, Im going to do it this way"

Obama has not changed, the plan is simple in a final stage.