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jct74
11-03-2014, 02:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_nz5vhe1K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_nz5vhe1K0

Bastiat's The Law
11-03-2014, 06:52 PM
Joe's sniffin DC crack if he thinks Romney is the nominee.

willwash
11-03-2014, 08:13 PM
Oh, so it's NOT done, is it Mr. Steele?

Edit: Douche.

Bastiat's The Law
11-03-2014, 08:55 PM
Oh, so it's NOT done, is it Mr. Steele?

Edit: Douche.

To Steele's credit, he's since corrected himself and acknowledged the importance of the Pauls.

trey4sports
11-03-2014, 09:21 PM
Fuck you Frank Joe!

CPUd
11-03-2014, 09:23 PM
Steele was pretty critical about the way Priebus and the RNC treated Ron Paul in the last cycle.

Jamesiv1
11-04-2014, 12:03 AM
LOLOL at Joe for saying Romney!!!!

wtf? what the hell did Spit Bombme do in 2014 besides a big bag of nothing?????

Peace&Freedom
11-04-2014, 12:24 AM
Steele was pretty critical about the way Priebus and the RNC treated Ron Paul in the last cycle.

The 2012 staggered, caucus-dominated primary schedule was supported by Steele, and he apparently took a lot of flack for it from certain interests dominating the GOP, as the structure gave an insurgent candidacy like Paul's a real chance. Afterwards, they scuttled plans to do something similar in 2016 and restructured the primary season back to a more frontloaded (establishment candidate friendly) schedule. Steele probably knows how badly the RNC bent the 2012 rules to cut out Paul from getting to make a nomination speech at the convention, but won't say so openly.

anaconda
11-04-2014, 01:37 AM
Scarborough and Jennifer Rubin need to get a room together.

anaconda
11-04-2014, 01:44 AM
Joe's sniffin DC crack if he thinks Romney is the nominee.

Joe Scarborough has also called Mitt "a horrible politician." Too bad no one on the panel called him on this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=829VVgBIMSw

cindy25
11-04-2014, 02:45 AM
Chris Wallace said the same thing on FNS. Romney is not a worry, except he will back Ryan. but watch out for Jeb.

jmdrake
11-04-2014, 07:44 AM
To Steele's credit, he's since corrected himself and acknowledged the importance of the Pauls.

Yep. Michael Steele is totally awesome now that he's been liberated from the clutches of establishment republicanism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPcTWCoBTM

Love the man. Just love him.

Mr.NoSmile
11-04-2014, 08:04 AM
To Steele's credit, he's since corrected himself and acknowledged the importance of the Pauls.

In other words, he flip-flopped.

Cleaner44
11-04-2014, 08:34 AM
Joe is wrong, main stream Republicans don't win. Apparently he didn't see what happened to McCain and Romney. In fact Romney lost to the worst president in our history and that happened with Obama getting less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... while the voting population increased!

With the voters:
Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the media and establishment:
Rand Paul is not the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Voters like Rand and will vote for him, while the media and lobbyists flip flop around trying to find an establishment loser to promote.

Chris Christie = corrupt liberal thug that people outside of the liberal NE have no use for

Jeb Bush = establishment neocon from a family with a tarnished brand name

Mitt Romney = proven liberal flip-flopping loser that has no interest in running

Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

jmdrake
11-04-2014, 08:43 AM
Well technically "main stream" (lame stream) republicans have recently won all of the nominations but lost most of the elections. Ron Paul would have done better than Romney or McCain in the general election but he couldn't make any headway in the primary. So the question is, can Rand win the primary? Is the combination of his nuanced positioning added to the republican frustration of the Romney's of the party losing over and over again enough? Rand Paul should say "Romney, you can't win because you've written off the very same 47% of voters to whom I'm reaching out."


Joe is wrong, main stream Republicans don't win. Apparently he didn't see what happened to McCain and Romney. In fact Romney lost to the worst president in our history and that happened with Obama getting less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... while the voting population increased!

With the voters:
Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the media and establishment:
Rand Paul is not the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Voters like Rand and will vote for him, while the media and lobbyists flip flop around trying to find an establishment loser to promote.

Chris Christie = corrupt liberal thug that people outside of the liberal NE have no use for

Jeb Bush = establishment neocon from a family with a tarnished brand name

Mitt Romney = proven liberal flip-flopping loser that has no interest in running

Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Carlybee
11-04-2014, 08:47 AM
Joe is wrong, main stream Republicans don't win. Apparently he didn't see what happened to McCain and Romney. In fact Romney lost to the worst president in our history and that happened with Obama getting less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... while the voting population increased!

With the voters:
Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the media and establishment:
Rand Paul is not the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Voters like Rand and will vote for him, while the media and lobbyists flip flop around trying to find an establishment loser to promote.

Chris Christie = corrupt liberal thug that people outside of the liberal NE have no use for

Jeb Bush = establishment neocon from a family with a tarnished brand name

Mitt Romney = proven liberal flip-flopping loser that has no interest in running

Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner


He may be but you know it will come down to whomever the GOP PTB want to get the nomination. We saw what they are capable of the last go round at the convention.

willwash
11-04-2014, 09:51 AM
Joe is wrong, main stream Republicans don't win. Apparently he didn't see what happened to McCain and Romney. In fact Romney lost to the worst president in our history and that happened with Obama getting less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... while the voting population increased!

With the voters:
Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the media and establishment:
Rand Paul is not the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Voters like Rand and will vote for him, while the media and lobbyists flip flop around trying to find an establishment loser to promote.

Chris Christie = corrupt liberal thug that people outside of the liberal NE have no use for

Jeb Bush = establishment neocon from a family with a tarnished brand name

Mitt Romney = proven liberal flip-flopping loser that has no interest in running

Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

In 2012 it was all about the anti-Romney; each opponent got a turn in the spotlight, from Bachmann to Perry to Cain to the Grinch and, unbelievably in a last ditch effort to marginalize Ron Paul, Santorum.

2016 will be all about trying to find the anti-Paul!

I think if Paul wins the GOP nominatino we'll see someone like Huckleberry jump in who they know will capture the few remaining neocon Hawks and Bible thumpers in an openly anti-Paul coalition to make sure we get Hillary.

Or they'll just kill him if even that doesn't work.

Peace&Freedom
11-04-2014, 01:06 PM
Joe is wrong, main stream Republicans don't win. Apparently he didn't see what happened to McCain and Romney. In fact Romney lost to the worst president in our history and that happened with Obama getting less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008... while the voting population increased!

With the voters:
Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the media and establishment:
Rand Paul is not the 2016 Republican frontrunner

Voters like Rand and will vote for him, while the media and lobbyists flip flop around trying to find an establishment loser to promote.

Chris Christie = corrupt liberal thug that people outside of the liberal NE have no use for

Jeb Bush = establishment neocon from a family with a tarnished brand name

Mitt Romney = proven liberal flip-flopping loser that has no interest in running

Rand Paul is the 2016 Republican frontrunner

With the VOTERS, he should be. With TPTB, never. Rand has to deal with both the voters AND the elite, in order to win the nomination. Rand has made inroads with the rank and file through careful finessing of the issues. To overcome the establishment control of the mainstream, he's going to need leverage to attack the framework by which they decide who is a "frontrunner," or keep everybody on a war footing. To fight the power, he's going to have to challenge the legitimacy of the establishment's emotional appeals for endless intervention, and their right to proclaim who is electable and who is not. If he doesn't, TPTB will control the primary race and its coverage, thereby steering the rank and file down its typical path (towards the McCains, Romneys and Bushes).

Cleaner44
11-04-2014, 02:30 PM
The establishment has one HUGE problem on their hands. They can't cast Rand as an unelectable fringe candidate. Gadfly won't work, quixotic won't work. To the public Rand Paul is prominent Senator. He can command microphone time at will. He will immediately have top tier polling and can't be shut out of speaking time in the debates.

Rand saw everything they did to Ron and he has been positioning himself from the beginning to counter the bullshit.

Rand is undeniably a top tier candidate if he is alive.