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GunnyFreedom
11-02-2014, 09:51 PM
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/02/4287831/state-duke-monitoring-recently.html


NC health officials monitoring recently arrived patient from Liberia for Ebola
November 2, 2014 Updated 34 minutes ago

RALEIGH — A Duke University Hospital patient, who left Liberia and arrived in the United States Friday and then in North Carolina Saturday, was being monitored Sunday for health conditions including Ebola after developing a fever, according to state health officials.

The state Department of Health and Human Services and Durham and Person county health departments are working with Duke University Hospital to care for the patient, who arrived in the country at Newark Liberty International Airport.

The person traveled to Person County on Saturday and developed a fever Sunday morning, the agencies said in a DHHS news release issued late Sunday.

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francisco
11-02-2014, 11:16 PM
Very similar to a case we just had here in Oregon. Person from one of the epidemic countries in Africa (which one, never disclosed) allegedly without direct contact with a contagious individual checked into hospital with fever.

In the Oregon case, it took two full days (from hospital admission Friday afternoon 10/31 until today 11/2, for the results of the test to become publicly known. The test came out negative. But why the delay? In the case of the Maine nurse, test results came through in about a day. In the Oregon case, the authorities are saying that a confirming test in another 72 hours might not be necessary. But why in God's name skip the the confirming test after more time??? Doesn't seem sensible considering the stakes involved. It is definitely known that the virus does not immediately show up in the blood of an infected individual, even using the very sensitve PCR technique.

Dr.3D
11-02-2014, 11:33 PM
Very similar to a case we just had here in Oregon. Person from one of the epidemic countries in Africa (which one, never disclosed) allegedly without direct contact with a contagious individual checked into hospital with fever.

In the Oregon case, it took two full days (from hospital admission Friday afternoon 10/31 until today 11/2, for the results of the test to become publicly known. The test came out negative. But why the delay? In the case of the Maine nurse, test results came through in about a day. In the Oregon case, the authorities are saying that a confirming test in another 72 hours might not be necessary. But why in God's name skip the the confirming test after more time??? Doesn't seem sensible considering the stakes involved. It is definitely known that the virus does not immediately show up in the blood of an infected individual, even using the very sensitve PCR technique.
And it might not show up for in the blood for 21 days. That's the reason they do a quarantine rather than just a blood test.
Sounds like they are being lazy or cheap.

Brian4Liberty
11-02-2014, 11:48 PM
Hopefully another false alarm.

cbc58
11-03-2014, 07:49 AM
too close for comfort for those of us who live in the area. btw, a friend of mine died of SARS years ago when that was all over the news (and was at Duke Hospital) but the CDC squashed any info of it because of public panic. so they will tell us only what they want to tell us.

pcosmar
11-03-2014, 09:53 AM
Hopefully another false alarm.

Hopefully.
But the question remains.. Why is there anyone in this country "recently from Liberia"?

The one in Portland Or was such also (as I recall).

Edit,,
Tests say it was not Ebola in the Portland case..
But the question remains,, Why is travel from these areas not restricted,, and incoming people not quarantined?

GunnyFreedom
11-03-2014, 09:55 AM
First test results have come back negative for Ebola.

alucard13mm
11-03-2014, 02:09 PM
As some pointed out, tests are only effective if viral proteins or immune antibodies specifically for that virus is present in large enough quantity to be detected.

8 years ago, We used test kits before in the research labs. It is a plate with a few dozen pits. on the surface of the pit is coated with a specific antibody for that virus. The antibody also had a molecule involved in color change attached to the non binding part of the antibody. We usually then centrifuge blood samples to get serum. Since proteins are very light, they stay near the top. We pipette the serum in the pit as well as a solution. When viral proteins bind to the anti bodies in the pit, the color changing molecule is released into the solution that contains the other part of the color changing molecule. The solution will then turn blue. Of course no viral protein or too little won't give a noticeable reading. Danm I forgot what virus we were working with.

PCR could work in detecting low concentrations of viral DNA or RNA. But you have to sequence the viral gene in order to figure out which part of the viral genes are unique for that virus and then make an analog DNA base to start amplication of that unique viral gene. My info is a bit fuzzy since it's been a while since I've graduated.

tangent4ronpaul
11-03-2014, 02:34 PM
Very similar to a case we just had here in Oregon. Person from one of the epidemic countries in Africa (which one, never disclosed) allegedly without direct contact with a contagious individual checked into hospital with fever.

In the Oregon case, it took two full days (from hospital admission Friday afternoon 10/31 until today 11/2, for the results of the test to become publicly known. The test came out negative. But why the delay? In the case of the Maine nurse, test results came through in about a day. In the Oregon case, the authorities are saying that a confirming test in another 72 hours might not be necessary. But why in God's name skip the the confirming test after more time??? Doesn't seem sensible considering the stakes involved. It is definitely known that the virus does not immediately show up in the blood of an infected individual, even using the very sensitve PCR technique.

Regulations. What the in house lab knows how to do and is allowed to do. For send out, thank Dept. of Transpo for regulatory restrictions on how you can ship HAZMAT.

Imagine a world where regulations kill. You're living in it!

-t