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RPfan1992
10-29-2014, 12:35 AM
According to UN projections, Sweden will be a much poorer country by 2030, much worse than what anyone in the Swedish government indicates.

The UN report HDI (Human Development Index) predicts a significant decrease in Swedish prosperity, unlike their Nordic neighbors, who will retain their top positions and even strengthen them globally in the long run.

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place.

Sweden is one of few countries with such a sharp deterioration from what it had in 2010.

Finland demonstrates one of the world's best school systems, while the Swedish school have lost competitiveness.

Fewer ends up on welfare dependency in their Nordic neighboring countries while Sweden continues to have a greater amount of family households forced to live on welfare, which are a couple factors causing the dropped global competitiveness.

Negative developments, or rather liquidations can be exemplified by Orrefors Kosta Boda, which in 1992 had 940 employees in Sweden and was a profitable industry. Today less than 100 remain in the company after further cost reductions and adaptations in order to meet global competition.

Most of today's less developed countries such as Cuba, Mexico, the Baltic countries and Bulgaria according to the 2030 UN report will be passing Sweden in prosperity.

Even Greece, which today is more or less bankrupt, but will be on 13th place by 2030.

Sweden's leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism: large scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on earth. Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist, fascist, even Nazi.

"We had a perfectly good country," Ingrid Carlqvist, a journalist said. "A rich country, a nice country, and in a few years' time, that country will be gone."

Here is the UN report:

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/print.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

Occam's Banana
10-29-2014, 12:57 AM
Meh. This is nothing that some big, fat foreign aid packages can't fix ...

Warrior_of_Freedom
10-29-2014, 01:41 AM
My definition of a 3rd world country is not having toilets. Does Sweden have toilets? Check, 2nd world country. Does Sweden have the Internet? Check, first world.

roho76
10-29-2014, 04:53 AM
Let's bomb them some money. If you disagree your racist and want children to die.

luctor-et-emergo
10-29-2014, 05:22 AM
Yes Sweden is the most socialist country in Europe and Yes they do have THE highest taxes, probably of any country in the world. I don't think however they are this stupid, the thing about neighbors, as long as you're not at war with them you do start learning from their experiences a bit. I don't see a situation where Finland is doing great but Sweden becomes a dump as very likely. Scandinavian countries are too close together for that. Norway is actually a better example I think, they don't have the Euro, I know a whole bunch of people that moved there because they have lower taxes and higher wages. Of course you must like cold and dark winters.

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 06:03 AM
Sweden's leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism: large scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on earth. Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist, fascist, even Nazi.

"We had a perfectly good country," Ingrid Carlqvist, a journalist said. "A rich country, a nice country, and in a few years' time, that country will be gone."

Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, and without a nationalist movement that is not afraid to crack heads they are doomed.

osan
10-29-2014, 07:05 AM
My definition of a 3rd world country is not having toilets. Does Sweden have toilets? Check, 2nd world country. Does Sweden have the Internet? Check, first world.

Your definition is based on superficialities and is, therefore, not very good. It would appear you need to rethink this position somewhat. Are there no toilets in Liberia? Nigeria? Botswana? Is there no internet access in those places? Are those also "first world"? Hello?

Sweden is screwing themselves into the ground and I have no sympathy for them. At the very best it can be said that the mean Swede allowed their current circumstance to arise by allowing progressives to take over the key positions of governance necessary for such deterioration to occur. The same is occurring in the UK, less so in Germany, and in most of the rest of Europe. The USA, while better than Europe in this brand of suicidal stupidity, is doing everything in its power to catch up.

If there is no other lesson to be learned in this, it is that multiculturalism as government policy is a heinous failure. I see nothing wrong with multiculturalism as a social phenomenon. Nothing wrong as long as the principles of governance, such as they may be, are consistent across all cultural boundaries. This was the case in America and that is why we soared where other nations did face-plants. But those realities were dismantled and now people are "Mexican" before "American". One can whine "jingoist" or "racist" all day long, it will change nothing of the real fact that mental states matter. People used to come here to BECOME Americans. They burned for it and spent every cent they had and risked life and limb to get here so they could become AMERICAN and not "Italian-American" or "Irish-American". In fact, I will suggest that calling them that back in the day would have earned you a fist in the teeth by some. That is now all gone as the stoopid bastards from all corners of the world come here and demand we kowtow to their cultural and personal demands... on someone else's nickel.

And to think, we used to complain about the old-world Italians because they sat around the dinner table saying, "mama mia... sonnamabitcha... passa d'olive oil". At least those people came here to be Americans and not to force America to become them. Progressives will rail against this, but there was more tolerance in those days than there is now. But then again, "tolerance" has been grossly redefined in the dictionary of the socialist stooge. It no longer means forbearance of things alien and perhaps unattractive to one. It now adds the requirement of acceptance for oneself and adoration of that which is repugnant. To be tolerant of homosexuals, for example, doesn't mean leaving them in peace. It now means never expressing one's personal distaste for the lifestyle. In days to come, it will include the refusal to engage in ***** behaviors. One day, and mark my word on this, it may come the point one is criminalized for refusing to so engage or to have on hand, 24x7, his gay kneepads ready for action at the first suggestion that one's mouth might make a fine receptacle.


Yes Sweden is the most socialist country in Europe and Yes they do have THE highest taxes, probably of any country in the world. I don't think however they are this stupid

Uh huh... but at least you admit by implication that they have been this stupid, thus far. Given that, what leads you to believe that they will reverse course? Using the long and sordid histories of human Empire as my statistical reference, I see no basis for your apparent optimism. Self-preservation? Talk to Rome, Greece, Byzantium, and a torrent of others on that point. Methinks you will find no joy there.

And now think of this: what will those silly little Swedes do when a company such as SAAB begins falling prey to the influences under discussion? Recall that SAAB provides most of their military aircraft. Would you want to pilot a jet engineered and built by these so-called "third world" immigrants who don't give a shit about "Sweden", but want it turned into a snowier version of the shit-hole whence they came? How about when those people manage to wrest political control and gain actionable leverage of those aircraft and other weapons and the people wielding them? Imagine what that would be like in a nation whose identity no longer means a damn to those in political power. You will have a smaller version of the United States.


the thing about neighbors, as long as you're not at war with them you do start learning from their experiences a bit.

This is hopelessly naive. Firstly, that long and sordid past to which I referred above, shows that people generally do not learn even from their own mistakes, much less those of their neighbors.


I don't see a situation where Finland is doing great but Sweden becomes a dump as very likely.

Here I might agree along some line of qualification. What I see happening is Sweden going to war with Finland, initially in order to steal the wealth out of their neighbor's house, and eventually to drag them down to their level of misery. In case you have not read much of human history, this is what human beings of Empire mentality DO. The examples are endless. Just hit a university library and start reading. It may take a while, but the patterns will make themselves apparent.


Scandinavian countries are too close together for that. Norway is actually a better example I think, they don't have the Euro, I know a whole bunch of people that moved there because they have lower taxes and higher wages. Of course you must like cold and dark winters.

A nation, once started down the dark path, basically never recovers without the facilitation of deep-blood violence. That is the mean pattern. Nations on the rot typically loot their neighbors until an entire region is reduced to equal misery. People lose heart, politics as usual dies for a period, prosperity begins to return in a few generations (precisely due to the increased freedoms of being impoverished), and a new cast of parasites emerges to begin the rise-loot-fall cycle afresh. We have at least 8,000 years of this on record. It is as predictable as a 14-year-old's boner as he reads a National Geographic article featuring topless African women. Therefore, the chances of Sweden seeing the light and reversing course is against the odds, whereas it is statistically more likely they will strike out against more prosperous neighbors, often accusing them of some conspiracy, most likely of an economic flavor.

But today with all the technology, I will add another possibility: the rot that will take Sweden through the very gates of hell will itself be socialized by the EU. IOW, the rot will be distributed among EU members, temporarily ameliorating the misery by slowing the descent. They are, in fact, already doing this as the examples of Greece, Spain, and Ireland attest. The net result will be localized slowing of perdition and the generalized depression in the standard of living for all the rest. This is how the socialists will achieve "equality", though the piecemeal process of "aiding" those nations which have fallen on bad times... presumably through no fault of their own of course. There will be no talk of reversing the policies that lead to such decay... no no no, of course not, because those are immutable and can never be set aside. Naturally, this is never spoken of explicitly, but always and only tacitly. This paints the grossly misleading mental picture that the circumstance was unavoidable and cannot be altered, save by the one path of whatever "government" dictates.

This can go on until all Europe is reduced to Soviet-bloc economic status. After that, Europe will be afforded the privilege of atoning for its sins against the people of Africa by rending aid unto those poor, seeley, stupid bastards. This apparently unprecedented cycle appears to my eyes to have very long legs and might account for several more generations of theft and fraud before there is nothing left to loot.


Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, and without a nationalist movement that is not afraid to crack heads they are doomed.

As much as those words chafe, I can see no alternative to what you assert. We are at the nexus and the choice will be made, actively or passively. But I see little chance to avoid widespread and bitter violence because the identities of entire peoples are at stake. The only question remaining is whether the progressives have been sufficiently successful in extinguishing that sense of identity in the younger people, for if so, they will see nothing for which to fight and will happily lay down for whatever wholesale misery awaits them.

Ronin Truth
10-29-2014, 08:58 AM
Let's all hear it for Swedish socialism and it's race to the bottom. We're number last! :p (A nation of blondes, what else can be realistically expected?)

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 09:24 AM
A nation of blondes...


That certainly used to be the case,

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvBsxu3DboltYiH3Hj8-19aGfWZ-I1vpdyI9YWpciNpPvHQ1iUzQ

...but not since they've been NWOed.

scottditzen
10-29-2014, 09:34 AM
And to think, we used to complain about the old-world Italians because they sat around the dinner table saying, "mama mia... sonnamabitcha... passa d'olive oil". At least those people came here to be Americans and not to force America to become them. Progressives will rail against this, but there was more tolerance in those days than there is now.

How do you reconcile your tolerance comment with the countless examples of anti-immigrant behavior in U.S. history?

Immigrants from China being forced to live within certain boundaries in San Francisco is just one of hundreds of examples of institutionalized discrimination. Are you saying it's worse today?

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 09:40 AM
How do you reconcile your tolerance comment with the countless examples of anti-immigrant behavior in U.S. history?

Immigrants from China being forced to live within certain boundaries in San Francisco is just one of hundreds of examples of institutionalized discrimination. Are you saying it's worse today?
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/a09369b417a0ab292fe620f9e1ac0fa8fa0b0512_t.gif

Inkblots
10-29-2014, 10:27 AM
Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, and without a nationalist movement that is not afraid to crack heads they are doomed.

I thought that problem was limited to the area in and around Malmö?

Also, head-cracking nationalists and European countries generally make for a very poor combination, if history is any guide.

Inkblots
10-29-2014, 10:31 AM
Your definition is based on superficialities and is, therefore, not very good. It would appear you need to rethink this position somewhat. Are there no toilets in Liberia? Nigeria? Botswana? Is there no internet access in those places? Are those also "first world"? Hello?

Given that Third World originally meant "aligned with neither US/SEATO/NATO nor the Comintern", basically anyone using the term today is making up an arbitrary definition. No need to take it so seriously.

juleswin
10-29-2014, 10:32 AM
My definition of a 3rd world country is not having toilets. Does Sweden have toilets? Check, 2nd world country. Does Sweden have the Internet? Check, first world.

Oh there are plenty of toilets and internet in third world countries. I think what you mean to say "do they have running water and reliable electricity." Not even Detroit is anywhere close to not having running water and reliable electricity.

Which bring me to my second point, FUCK the UN and their predictions and proclamations. Shut that useless org down, this is one reasons why I supported Ron Paul.

Brian4Liberty
10-29-2014, 11:07 AM
Sweden's leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism: large scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on earth. Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist, fascist, even Nazi.

Now why does that sound so familiar?

There is nothing inherently wrong with multiculturalism.

There is plenty wrong with socialism and Big Daddy/Big Mommy government. Not only does it destroy the existing people by making them dependent and helpless, it also encourages the immigration of people who want to be on the government dole.

Brian4Liberty
10-29-2014, 11:09 AM
My definition of a 3rd world country is not having toilets. Does Sweden have toilets? Check, 2nd world country. Does Sweden have the Internet? Check, first world.


Oh there are plenty of toilets and internet in third world countries. I think what you mean to say "do they have running water and reliable electricity." Not even Detroit is anywhere close to not having running water and reliable electricity.


Syria used to be a second world nation. Much of Syria may qualify as third world now.

juleswin
10-29-2014, 11:14 AM
Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, and without a nationalist movement that is not afraid to crack heads they are doomed.

When you label everything from looking at a woman the wrong way to cat calling as rape, its no surprise that Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe. Sweden is what happens when a country with rich history and culture is taken over by radical feminists with cultural Marxist ideology.


I recently bought a kindle version of a book by Oscar Swartz called “A Brief History of Swedish Sex: How the Nation that Gave Us Free Love Redefined Rape and Declared War on Julian Assange” It cost just £5 from Amazon.

The book gives a chronological account of how Sweden was transformed from being a so called utopian ‘liberal democracy’ into a modern day totalitarian witchocracy. It is a destiny that Australia is frighteningly staring down the barrel of unless the political and legislative classes there can miraculously find the courage to stand up for common sense.

Sweden is a showpiece example of how ridiculously scary Radical Feminist rule is and how Sweden is an international embarrassment. Hotel workers there are trained to spy on their guests in case they should indulge in any untoward sexual activity. To be male is to be regarded by some as equivalent to Taliban terrorism. A girl being teased on a school bus can try to claim rape because she thought the boys’ willies stood up.

Leading Swedish Radfem academics, Professor Christian Diesen and Eva Diesen from Stockholm University published a book calling, not for 200 men to be convicted of rape each year but 25,000. “The average Swedish man should ideally spend a year of his life in gaol [jail] due to poor sexual interaction with women.”

In the blind insanity amongst the political classes the drive for ‘one upmanship’ has left Swedish citizens with no electoral choices as the different political parties seek to show off who can be more feminist by calling for ever stiffer penalties against men only. Sex is not illegal to sell, only to be perceived to buy.

The dark tide of tyranny, directed at a single sex has created a misandric paradigm that can only be described as psychotic as the Nazis or Stalinists ever were. Sweden is a dream society for radfems where a man, accused of rape, has to prove his innocence. Anyone with an ounce of logic will know that to prove a non-event is extremely difficult.

Below is an extract from Oscar Swartz’s book. It is an account of what happened to 18 year old Joakim who fell out with his girlfriend. He is now one of the 200 men being convicted of rape each year, most on bogus charges.

Continue reading http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/the-radfem-conquest-of-sweden/

This is not just in Sweden, I am sure you have heard of the stat that says that 1 in 5 college age girl is going to be raped while in college. That number is much greater than the 68 in 100,000 females raped in their life time for South Africa. Which is the high mark for the rape capital of the world. The feminists are taking over and conducting a war on men. It starts slow with silly stats like this and before you know it, we are Sweden

AuH20
10-29-2014, 11:15 AM
The whole world is moving towards that District 9 hellhole.



"We had a perfectly good country," Ingrid Carlqvist, a journalist said. "A rich country, a nice country, and in a few years' time, that country will be gone."

rpfocus
10-29-2014, 12:23 PM
Pure stupidity. Sweden will not be a third world country in 15 years, and this certainly isn't a conclusion "according to UN." Googling the title of this thread and viewing the results tells you all you need to know about this "article." Promote your moronic agenda on stormfart.

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 12:40 PM
Pure stupidity. Sweden will not be a third world country in 15 years, and this certainly isn't a conclusion "according to UN." Googling the title of this thread and viewing the results tells you all you need to know about this "article." Promote your moronic agenda on stormfart.

Communists such as yourself won't be happy until every capital in Europe looks like Istanbul.

Zippyjuan
10-29-2014, 12:43 PM
"Commie" is so 1950's.

rpfocus
10-29-2014, 12:46 PM
Communists such as yourself won't be happy until every capital in Europe looks like Istanbul.

Wow, almost the exact response I predicted. Pitiful.

William Tell
10-29-2014, 12:47 PM
"Commie" is so 1950's.

No, the 10 planks are more relevant today than they were in the 1950s.

AuH20
10-29-2014, 12:51 PM
No, the 10 planks are more relevant today than they were in the 1950s.

Everytime you pull the lever for someone, there is a 99% chance that it is a Communist of some type.

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 12:54 PM
When you label everything from looking at a woman the wrong way to cat calling as rape, its no surprise that Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe. Sweden is what happens when a country with rich history and culture is taken over by radical feminists with cultural Marxist ideology.


I don't think that's the problem.

http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2014/Mar/6/LiveLeak-dot-com-de1_1394099792-OL527RNWLNXAT54XH_1394100834.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb60393 32f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd6924b45dbd2c08 0&ec_rate=230

Zippyjuan
10-29-2014, 01:08 PM
Rape in Sweden:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372


Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.

This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in the United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people.

On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous place than these other countries.

But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She says you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures and legal definitions vary widely.

"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.

"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.

But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.

The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.

"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.

"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."

The change in law meant that cases where the victim was asleep or intoxicated are now included in the figures. Previously they'd been recorded as another category of crime.

Expanding a definition always leads to more cases qualifying so the numbers go up.

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 01:09 PM
I thought that problem was limited to the area in and around Malmö?

Also, head-cracking nationalists and European countries generally make for a very poor combination, if history is any guide.

So let your country be completely overrun and absorbed into the NWO rather than risk being called a Nazi? Got it.

This sort of snivelry is why the current crop of "libertarians" stands very little chance of doing much of anything at all against international Communism, A.K.A. the NWO. You've already been neutered by a lifetime of Marxist indoctrination.

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 01:33 PM
Rape in Sweden:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

Swedes go to prison if they talk about this issue in anything but glowing terms, so excuse me if I don't take your BBC article quoting 'official' Swedish sources seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_znVnOizU8#t=35

juleswin
10-29-2014, 01:56 PM
I don't think that's the problem.

http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2014/Mar/6/LiveLeak-dot-com-de1_1394099792-OL527RNWLNXAT54XH_1394100834.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb60393 32f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd6924b45dbd2c08 0&ec_rate=230

Did you even read the article I sent you? For you to believe the numbers coming from the Swedish govt, you have to believe rape numbers in Sweden is higher that the highest number ever reported in South Africa. You got to be kidding me if you expect me or anyone with an I.Q. above 80 and internet connection to believe that load of BS. You have to have full on rapists raping day and night to achieve such numbers.

Even the mass rape crisis of German women after WWII did not produce rape stats as 1 in 4 women getting raped like the people in Sweden would want you to believe. This is just something they use to scare people to fear the Mooslims.

parocks
10-29-2014, 01:57 PM
Seems like things are bad.

juleswin
10-29-2014, 01:58 PM
Rape in Sweden:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372



Expanding a definition always leads to more cases qualifying so the numbers go up.

^^^^ This^^^^
Out of reps or else I rep you again. So many firsts in this thread :)

osan
10-29-2014, 03:02 PM
How do you reconcile your tolerance comment with the countless examples of anti-immigrant behavior in U.S. history?

I made a statement of relative measures, not of absolutes. I would add that while there was plenty of distaste by one group for another - nothing new there in human affairs - people were far more able to express unpopular opinions without undue repercussions. Sure, there was always someone looking to punch someone else in the nose, but today the pressures are high to the point people are charged criminally for the opinions they express. Back in the old days, people called others all manner of unpleasant things... kike, guinea, wop, spick, Knee-Grow, polak, and so forth. Sometimes people fought over it, but more often they did not. When I was a kid, we'd disagree and once in a while the epithets would fly. Mostly we ignored them and sometimes we fought. When done, we shook hands, made our apologies, and went on to more profitable endeavors. No police involvement, no spot on the evening news, no federal case made of it the way they do now.


Immigrants from China being forced to live within certain boundaries in San Francisco is just one of hundreds of examples of institutionalized discrimination. Are you saying it's worse today?

In many ways, yes. Elimination of so-called "discrimination" has been a disaster, by and large People are no longer allowed their rightful freedom to transact with those whom they choose, nor to speak their peace. They are now forced to do that which is repugnant to them. It doesn't matter whether you agree with "discrimination". In the end, it is every man's right to pick and choose those with whom he will do business and under what conditions.

Having stopped the CRIMINAL violations against groups such as the Chinese is a completely different issue. If my actions violate your rights, you have cause to hold me accountable. Otherwise, you do not, no matter how much you may hate what I do.

osan
10-29-2014, 03:06 PM
Also, head-cracking nationalists and European countries generally make for a very poor combination, if history is any guide.

This is why I wrote that such words chafe. Consider Stalin and Hitler as prime examples of the combo gone badly amok. And yet, if one does nothing in the face of these progressive assaults upon a culture, the alternative is ultimate extinction.

Mr. Rock, may I introduce Mr Hardplace?

FloralScent
10-29-2014, 06:48 PM
Mr. Rock, may I introduce Mr Hardplace?



It truly is, and most are so afraid of being called the "N-word"(Nazi), that they'll roll over and take all the abuse the left can dish out and then ask for 2nds. The truth is, without healthy nation states to act as a bulwark against the NWO, all our fates are sealed.

NIU Students for Liberty
10-29-2014, 08:02 PM
The truth is, without healthy nation states to act as a bulwark against the NWO, all our fates are sealed.

So use the government to restrict people's rights (freedom of travel & free market interactions) in order to prevent a government that restricts people's rights?

That's the ticket!