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Tod
10-26-2014, 10:06 PM
Pretty serious escalation, it looks like....


FEDS RETALIATE AGAINST THE BUNDY RANCH AND THE SOUTHERN NEVADA PEOPLE

On Friday October 10th, 2014 a Notice from the federal registry reveals that the federal government is mounting retaliations against the Bundy family and the Southern Nevada people.
Federal Register / Vol. 79, No.197 Notice, outlines plans to make the Bundy ranch and most of the rest of Southern Nevada, Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACECs). 90 days from October 10th, 2014 these proposals will become federal law without consent from the Nevada State legislatures or the people of Southern Nevada.
Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACECs) are human restricted management areas. ACECs have been a tool used by the federal government to gain further control of large masses of western lands and the resources.
As proposed, nearly 3 million acres in Southern Nevada will be locked away from the people. This includes most uses on the land (recreational, agricultural or otherwise).
Listed below are just a few of the outlined restriction that come with ACECs:
· Closed Roads
· Excluded Trails
· Closed to Camping
· Closed to Recreational Vehicles
· Closed to Motorized Travel
· Closed to Livestock Grazing
· Restricted Human Hiking
· Restricted Horseback Riding
· Exclude Group Recreations
· Closed to Mineral Development
· Closed to Water Access
· Closed to Hunting / Target Shooting
The Southern Nevada people soon will have less access to their lands than any other people in the history of this country.
There are 33 new Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACECs) proposed to cover Southern Nevada totaling 1,739,795 acres. 12 of the 22 existing ACECs are also proposed to be expanded. (See List Below) The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) filed this lists on October 1st.
ACECs
IF YOU ENJOY USING ANY OF THESE AREAS IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE
Area Acres Area Acres
Big Spring Valley 79,958 Muddy Mountains 228,297
Bitter Spring 61,840 Old SpanishTrail 51,449
California Wash 11,998 Opel Mountains 77,410
Gale Hills / Lovell Wash 4,788 Pahrump Valley 41,770
Grapevine Springs 202 Pahrump Valley to McCullough 274,061
Highland Range 53,015 Perkins Ranch 408
Hiko Wash 708 South Bare Mountains 87,692
Ivanpah Valley 3,134 South Newbury Mountains 26,877
Invanpah Valley 289,599 Specter Hills 6,603
Jean Lake 12,692 Devils Hole Hills 283,538
LaMadre (North & South) 2,431 Spirit Mountain 9,488
Lava Dune 623 Stewart Valley 5,204
Logandale 8,118 Stuart Ranch 278
Lower Mormon Mesa 66,353 Stump Spring 126,952
Mesa Milkyetch 9,183 Upper Las Vegas Wash 22,244
Moapa / Mesquite 2,219 Valley of Fire 131,378
Mt Schader 285 Mormon Mesa 167,594
Virgin River 8,500 Whitney Pockets 160
Armagosa Mesquite 9,650 Arden Sites 1,142
Arrow Canyon 2,070 Ash Meadows 28,202
Big Dune 2,456 Coyote Spring 51,528
Crescent Townsites 435 Devils Throat 848
Gold Butte 346,895 Keyhole Canyon 446
Hidden Valley 3,356 Piute / Eldorado 352,159
Rainbow Gardens 39,366 Red Rock Springs 683
River Mountain 11,029 Stump Springs 646
Total Restricted Acres 2,767,941
This is a direct assault on the State of Nevada. It is also a deliberate retaliation against the people for standing against the horrific action of several federal agencies at the Bundy ranch.
The boldness of the federal government’s timing and action on these matters are astonishing. They are again making a clear case that they are willing to use federal power to punish the local people. Harry Reid’s declaration “This is not over” is proving to be uncharacteristically accurate.
Before the Bundy ranch standoff, there were approximately 1 million acres of ACECs in Southern Nevada. Now after the Bundy standoff, the BLM is proposing an additional 1.8 Million acres (a 280% increase) all of which just happens to be in Southern Nevada.
Although this is not proof, anybody with a little intelligence can see that Harry Reid and the BLM are not protecting the environment; they are punishing their enemies.
How is it that all newly proposed critical environmental land in the Untied States just happens to reside within miles of the Bundy ranch? Is the land in Southern Nevada so different/dangerous/special/delicate and important?
From near the beginning of history, tyrannical men have sought to oppress through the control of land and resources, "Control the land and resources, and you have the power to control the people". There is a direct correlation to land and resources with power and wealth. All major powers in world history have gained their power & wealth by conquering the land and controlling the resources.
It is self-evident that certain men within our government understand this and have implemented these age-old tactics upon the people of this country. For decades they have used government to gain power & wealth for themselves by controlling the land and resources.
Our founding fathers understood this nature, they drafted the Constitution to protect us from the despotic men that history is so full of. They limited the powers of government by outlining what lands the federal government can control and by separating the powers they hold. Their intent was to quickly dispose the land and resources to the local people, where it is most safe.
SEE GRAPH BELOW
Under federal rule, the people that live on or near the land have no say to what happens in their own backyards. They have no republic form of government. The decisions are all made by appointed representatives from Washington D.C. These representatives have no responsibility to the people and there is no practical legal way to hold them accountable. In direct violation of the U.S. Constitution federal agencies use the lands as their own and suppress the rightful stewards.
At the moment of Statehood land inside the new State is no longer U.S. Territory, and no longer does U.S. Congress or any of the federal agencies have authority to dispose of the land or make any rules or regulations respecting to it. At Statehood it becomes the right and duty of the people of the State to dispose of and regulate all the lands within the boarders of that State. This is called a republic form of government, for the people, by the people.
The incident at the Bundy ranch indicates that people are beginning to question the legitimacy of federally control lands within their State. It also proves that the people have the courage to stand against despotic government actions. The purpose of the federal government is to protect and uphold the rights of the people, not to profit from the spoils in taking their lands and resources away.
The recent action of the BLM in creating new federal code (ACECs) to expand their control and power by restricting the people further from their lands is a continuation of illegally controlling land with-in a State.
SEE GRAPH BELOW
We call upon our County and State representatives to take courage and end the unconstitutional federal control of land and resources within the State. The legal and rightful control of the land belongs to the local people. The land within the State must be returned to people in a republic form of government. It is time for the State to dispose of the land to the people, open the land up for useful purposes, and protect the preemptive property rights of the people.
Lest there be any confusion regarding how these new federal rules impact the Bundy family, we will continue ranching as our family has done in the Southern Nevada area for over 137 years. We intend to use our preemptive property rights of grazing and water, the rights that Nevada State law both recognizes and is charged to protect.
We are not intimidated by the past action of the federal government, nor will we yield to their future attempt to subdue the State or the people. We refuse to submit to unconstitutional codes and regulation that dismantle Statehood and deprived our American neighbors and ourselves of the unalienable right so many of our kinsmen suffered and died for.
The Bundy Family
October 25, 2014
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Spikender
10-27-2014, 01:53 AM
An empire has to expand its territory, and if that happens to punish those who question authority, such is a necessary evil.

Czolgosz
10-27-2014, 02:02 AM
It'll require a lot of dead Red Coats to secure independence.

anaconda
10-27-2014, 04:12 AM
The recent action of the BLM in creating new federal code (ACECs)

I thought congress created federal code? What are they referring to?

RonPaulIsGreat
10-27-2014, 04:23 AM
Hillary 2016!!! Don't let them tell you, God created the land for mans use.

tod evans
10-27-2014, 05:00 AM
So the BLM is writing SWLOD's that carry the power of law now....

Let's see how well that works out for them....

Pericles
10-27-2014, 10:11 AM
Bandmaster! Sound Boots and Saddles (http://www.goatlocker.org/sound/bootsandsaddles.wav)

Boots and Saddles is a bugle call sounded for mounted troops to mount and take their place in line.

HOLLYWOOD
10-27-2014, 10:24 AM
Might as well change the name of the Silver State to: "FEDvada"

They rule over 87% of the land.... FREEDOM! :rolleyes:

Tod
10-27-2014, 07:31 PM
The big question is......will the militia folks who were there before stand up to this? And how will they do it? Armed escorts for anyone who wants to be in the area?

Tod
10-27-2014, 08:42 PM
Additional coverage....





BREAKING: Obama Makes Move Against the Bundy Ranch… This Is Tyranny

Earlier this year, the topic of federal government control over public land in Western states came to the forefront, as all eyes in America focussed on the Bundy Ranch in southern Nevada, and the heavy-handed, militarized response of federal regulatory agencies to unpaid grazing fees.
Thanks to an immense effort by protestors and supporters, backed up by armed citizen militias, the tyrannical feds backed down from the stand-off they created.

But nobody thought the issue was entirely over, especially after Nevada Senator Harry Reid threatened as much, saying “something will happen” to the Bundy’s and their ranch.
That something may be happening now, as the feds prepare to seize control of millions of acres of land in southern Nevada, placing it off limits to people, according to a post on the Bundy Ranch’s Facebook page.
An official notice was recently released by the Federal Registry, proclaiming that upwards of 3 million acres of land in southern Nevada would be declared Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) and placed off limits to virtually all human activity.
Some of the restrictions placed upon ACEC land include closing roads and trails to all motorized traffic; closing camping, hunting, and recreation sites; closing all livestock grazing and water access; and even restricting hiking and horseback riding in the area.

This declaration wasn’t a piece of legislation passed by Congress, nor was it agreed upon by the state, or the people, of Nevada. It was simply decided upon by nameless, unaccountable bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., and imposed against the will of the people.

The Bundy Ranch believes that this move by the feds is in direct retaliation against them and the people of southern Nevada for their stand-off against the Bureau of Land Management. Although they have no direct proof, they point out that all of the newly declared ACECs are located in southern Nevada, virtually surrounding the Bundy Ranch by off-limits federally-controlled land.


For their part, the Bundy’s say this federal tyranny won’t stop them from continuing to ranch and graze on the same land their family has used for well over 100 years. They are asking for an outcry from the states and the people so loud that it can no longer be ignored by the feds.

The states need to stop allowing this type of thing to occur. It is time for the states to reclaim sovereignty over their own territories and take back control of public lands under the thumb of the feds. States could then either hold it themselves or return it to the people, to whom it really belongs.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter if you agree that the federal seizure of “public” land and placing it completely off-limits to the “public” needs to stop immediately, and the states must take back control of their land.




http://conservativetribune.com/obama-moves-against-bundy-ranch/

tangent4ronpaul
10-27-2014, 09:23 PM
weren't they planning on culling half the "endangered" turtle population because of budget cuts? I wonder what this will cost to enforce?

I imagine there will be a cut out that allows them to sell such land to foreign corporations so they can construct solar power plants... :rolleyes:

-t

fr33
10-27-2014, 09:58 PM
In the words of KRS-One; "There can never really be justice on stolen land"

Anti Federalist
10-31-2014, 10:28 AM
I thought congress created federal code? What are they referring to?

No, congress does NOT create federal code.

That is written by the alphabet soup agencies, and, after a "public comment" period, which is mostly ignored, the new regs are published in the Code of Federal Regulations, and have the full force of law.

Without once being voted on or debated by any representative body.

Regulation without Representation.

Even worse, the UN now writes regulations that are codified into US regs through the same agencies.

JK/SEA
10-31-2014, 10:35 AM
so basically, the government could realistically be considered 'ebola' to the Constitution....

got it.....

so whats the cure?.....

A Son of Liberty
10-31-2014, 10:50 AM
Stop using meaningless words like, "unconstitutional". They are allowed to do whatever they say they're allowed to do, and bog you down in endless debate when you say they're not.

What they are doing is IMMORAL, and UNJUST; an unprovoked act of violence against peaceful, sovereign people.

You LOSE the second you tacitly agree to engage them on semantics, rather than on principle.

pcosmar
10-31-2014, 10:57 AM
so whats the cure?.....

It is contained in the second amendment,, what is commonly called the Bill of Rights..
And also in the Declaration of Independence.


But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-

Deborah K
10-31-2014, 11:04 AM
This declaration wasn’t a piece of legislation passed by Congress, nor was it agreed upon by the state, or the people, of Nevada. It was simply decided upon by nameless, unaccountable bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., and imposed against the will of the people.


Who's going to enforce this? THOSE are the targets (as in the ones who need to be publicly confronted about this). They need to produce evidence that they are legally bound to enforce a declaration that wasn't agreed upon "by [Congress], the state, or the people of Nevada. They will be in violation of their oaths to the Constitution, as is the agency involved, if they enforce this unlawful seizure.

If the government isn't going to adhere to the Constitution, then the people aren't going to adhere to the laws imposed on them by a fiat government. It's inevitable. It may not happen right away, and a lot of damage might happen in the process, but it's inevitable. Freedom will find a way.

Anti Federalist
10-31-2014, 11:09 AM
Who's going to enforce this? THOSE are the targets (as in the ones who need to be publicly confronted about this). They need to produce evidence that they are legally bound to enforce a declaration that wasn't agreed upon "by [Congress], the state, or the people of Nevada. They will be in violation of their oaths to the Constitution, as is the agency involved, if they enforce this unlawful seizure.

If the government isn't going to adhere to the Constitution, then the people aren't going to adhere to the laws imposed on them by a fiat government. It's inevitable. It may not happen right away, and a lot of damage might happen in the process, but it's inevitable. Freedom will find a way.

I'm quite sure Theye could not possibly care less about that.

Deborah K
10-31-2014, 11:32 AM
I'm quite sure Theye could not possibly care less about that.

So am I. I'm thinking strategy-wise for the Bundys. They, and their representatives need to shine light on these shadow governments and their reinforcements. Situations like this one are an opportunity to do that. I'm just saying if it were my family going through this, that would be one of the ways I would bring this out.

Clive got sucked into the "racist" trap, so his family won't be able to use the MSM to accomplish anything, but if they're smart, they'll launch a successful campaign online; rehab his unjustly tattered reputation; and garner the support needed to head this off again. The other issue is the pissing match that went on between the various factions i.e. militia vs. Oathkeepers. I hope Stewart stays above the fray on this, and offers his assistance again, even though he and OK were unjustly maligned last time.

pcosmar
10-31-2014, 11:40 AM
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