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Brian4Liberty
10-24-2014, 11:04 AM
New Snowden Doc CITIZENFOUR Reminds Us to Support Whistleblowers
http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/new-snowden-doc-citizenfour-reminds-us-to-support-whistleblowers/



October 23, 2014 – Opening Friday in New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Washington D.C. is CITIZENFOUR, the documentary by Academy-Award nominated director Laura Poitras about her encounters with whistleblower Edward Snowden in Hong Kong. Poitras and investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald interviewed Snowden, a government contractor who had high-level security access within the federal government, about the massive spying efforts conducted by the National Security Agency (NSA).

From the film’s website:

"Poitras had already been working on a film about surveillance for two years when Snowden contacted her, using the name “CITIZENFOUR,” in January 2013. He reached out to her because he knew she had long been a target of government surveillance, stopped at airports numerous times, and had refused to be intimidated. When Snowden revealed he was a high-level analyst driven to expose the massive surveillance of Americans by the NSA, Poitras persuaded him to let her film.

CITIZENFOUR places you in the room with Poitras, Greenwald, and Snowden as they attempt to manage the media storm raging outside, forced to make quick decisions that will impact their lives and all of those around them."

Ever since Snowden unveiled the details of the government’s mass surveillance of American citizens to Poitras and Greenwald in 2013, Snowden has been on the run from persecution. He faces federal charges of espionage for several “offenses,” including revealing how a secret court, FISA, has the authority to sweep Americans’ phone records; the program PRISM, through which the government can request access to companies’ data; XKeyscore, the “widest reaching” tool used by the U.S. government to search Internet data; and much more. Our Contributor Curran Higgins has extensively covered the NSA’s mass spying mission and why the liberty movement needs more whistleblowers and hackers...
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More: http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/new-snowden-doc-citizenfour-reminds-us-to-support-whistleblowers/

Brian4Liberty
10-27-2014, 10:36 AM
'What the War on Terror Actually Looks Like': Laura Poitras on Citizenfour
An interview with the filmmaker as her documentary on mass surveillance hits theaters
By Conor Friedersdorf -Oct 24 2014


The ultimate insider's exposé of the National Security Agency is about to hit theaters. When Citizenfour opens Friday in New York, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco, documentary filmmaker Laura Poitras will have given moviegoers an unprecedented look at whistleblower Edward Snowden as he pulled back the curtain on mass surveillance in the United States and the world. This week, I spoke to Poitras about her body of work, including Citizenfour (I reviewed the film here after a press screening), The Oath, her movie on the prison at Guantanamo Bay, and My Country, My Country, her Iraq War documentary.
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More:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/10/what-the-war-on-terror-actually-looks-like-laura-poitras-on-citizenfour/381749/?single_page=true

A Portrait of the Whistleblower as a Young Man
Laura Poitras's new documentary captures the moment when Edward Snowden told the world that the NSA was watching.
By Conor Friedersdorf


The world will never see Mark Felt's body language as he told Bob Woodward about the Nixon administration's illegal behavior or hear the timbre of Daniel Ellsberg's voice when he handed over the Pentagon Papers. But thanks to Citizenfour, a new documentary film by Laura Poitras, there is a digital record of the Hong Kong encounter between NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and the journalists to whom he revealed mass surveillance of innocents, as well as verbatim excerpts from the encrypted notes he used to facilitate the meeting. For that reason alone, the film will endure as an important historical artifact.

Citizenfour's broader subject is the surveillance state that metastasized in the U.S. and partner countries in the years after the September 11 terrorist attacks. While the film is less thorough and detailed in explaining how the U.S. government is spying on its citizens than Frontline's vital two-part documentary, Poitras's spare portrayal of the global surveillance state is dramatic, accessible to the lay viewer, and accurate—a difficult trifecta given how complicated is the subject matter.
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More:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/10/a-portrait-of-the-whistleblower-as-a-young-man/381388/?single_page=true

Brian4Liberty
10-27-2014, 10:48 AM
REVIEW: Citizenfour Is This Halloween’s Scariest Chiller
By Richard Corliss - Oct. 26, 2014


Edward Snowden is both the ghost and the hero of Laura Poitras's documentary about blowing the whistle on the spooks at NSA

In Dec. 2012, a mysterious person known only as Citizenfour contacted documentary filmmaker Laura Poitras with promises of important revelations about the U.S. government’s spy apparatus. Before they met, Citizenfour sent her this warning: “For now, know that every border you cross, every purchase you make, every call you dial, every cellphone tower you pass, friend you keep, site you visit and subject line you type is...
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More:
https://time.com/3538893/review-citizenfour-laura-poitras-edward-snowden-us-government/

tangent4ronpaul
10-27-2014, 11:27 AM
I dare say, the snarky comments from the DC audience just might be more entertaining than the film. :D

Does anyone know where to find this 2 part Frontline special?

-t

Brian4Liberty
10-27-2014, 01:34 PM
I dare say, the snarky comments from the DC audience just might be more entertaining than the film. :D

Does anyone know where to find this 2 part Frontline special?

-t

Not sure, but there might be video at this link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/

tangent4ronpaul
10-27-2014, 01:37 PM
Not sure, but there might be video at this link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/

Thanks

-t

Suzanimal
01-15-2015, 04:14 PM
:cool:


Snowden documentary 'Citizenfour' nominated for Oscar

​'Citizenfour,' the Laura Poitras-directed documentary about former United States government contractor Edward Snowden, is officially in the running for an Oscar.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences revealed nominees on Thursday for its big 2015 awards show, and the acclaimed movie about Snowden’s 2013 trip to Hong Kong and his meeting there with Poitras and journalists has been named a contender in the “Best Documentary” category.

“You know the public response, and in the press, has been pretty extraordinary for us,” Poitras told the New York Times. “We didn’t know what to expect. We made a film that was unknown outside of a very small circle, and there was a lot of uncertainties. It’s been pretty incredible to see this happen.”

Citizenfour is up against 'Finding Vivian Maier'; 'Last Days in Vietnam'; 'Salt of the Earth' and 'Virunga.'

'Life Itself' – a feature-length documentary on late film critic Roger Ebert – did not make the final cut, to which Poitras called “a heartbreak.”

“I’m in shock,” she told Variety. “When his name wasn’t up there, I thought, ‘how is that possible?’ He’s a legend in our field with an incredible body of work. I assumed his film would be nominated, so it’s a bit of a heartbreak.”

Glenn Greenwald – the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who is featured predominately in the film working with Snowden on reviewing a cache of classified government secrets provided by the former NSA employee – tweeted “Congrats to my brilliant colleague Laura Poitras!!!!” on Thursday.

Snowden spoke first with Poitras, then with Greenwald, through encrypted emails while working as a government contractor in early 2013. Soon after, he arranged to meet the two in Hong Kong, where much of Citizenfour is set. Snowden spent several days reviewing pilfered NSA documents with the journalists before he boarded a plane that landed in Moscow, where he has since stayed after having his US passport revoked. Snowden, 31, is wanted in the US on charges of espionage related to the theft of the NSA documents – the likes of which have revealed a startling number of the intelligence community’s secrets since first being reported by the media in June 2013.

http://rt.com/usa/223111-citizenfour-poitras-snowden-oscar/

muh_roads
01-15-2015, 04:40 PM
Not sure, but there might be video at this link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/

This is also on Netflix.

ZENemy
01-15-2015, 04:41 PM
Great more evils, lets just keep funding it though.

CPUd
01-22-2015, 04:11 PM
I saw it, was pretty interesting and will be for those who followed the original stories. This shows what was happening behind the scenes. Some highlights:

- Most of the footage is of Ed Snowden in the hotel room in HK, starting maybe a week before the video where he revealed his identity.

- The first time Glen Greenwald met him in the hotel room (Snowden met Laura Poitras first, then Greenwald a few days later because he had a hard time using PGP).

- Greenwald and another Guardian reporter from the UK when they concluded that Snowden was legit.

- Snowden explaining his reasons to them (for the first time), and why he did not just dump everything on wikileaks.

- Greenwald gets a USB drive, and Snowden shows him how to decrypt it.

- The article about Verizon is published. A day or 2 later, the PRISM article is published, and I think the Scottish guy published something about GCHQ.

- Snowden and Greenwald discuss their media strategy, and what to do once his identity is discovered/revealed. Snowden did a good job predicting what the response would be. He knew the NSA would eventually figure out who their source was.

- Snowden watches the stories when they hit CNN.

- By this time, Snowden was officially out of pocket at his day job. He talks to his GF, who says someone from NSA came to the apt with some police and wanted to look around. Also there were several construction vehicles parked on his street.

- The next day, Greenwald starts making public appearances.

- Snowden listens to a message from his GF, she says his bank account has been frozen, the automatic drafts to the landlord were failing and he was going to be evicted if he doesn't call the bank.

- Discussions about making 'the video' keep getting interrupted by the fire alarm. They are all sorta freaking out, so Snowden calls the desk and they tell him it is a routine test, which is apparently what they wanted to hear.

- 'The video' is made and posted online.

- Snowden makes an attempt to change his appearance, but mostly fails.

- Snowden's room phone starts ringing. He has to answer because he has hired a HK lawyer who is supposed to contact him via the front desk. He tells the desk to ring Laura's room if the lawyer shows up, but tell everyone else that Snowden isn't staying at the hotel. He leaves his room and moves to Laura's room.

- The lawyer arrives, and is able to secure temporary asylum in HK for Snowden via UNHRA. He leaves the hotel to go to an undisclosed location for a few days before eventually getting on the plane to Moscow.


- some months later when they reunited, Greenwald tells Snowden about a new source for the story about the US drones being operated from Ramstein AFB. Also the story about the watch list having 1.2 million people on it (in various stages), which might not be out yet. Snowden is surprised and says he hopes they are being careful.

- Snowden's GF with him in Russia, the camera is outside the window looking in.

ZENemy
01-22-2015, 04:16 PM
Lets just sue the piece of shit gov and subpoena snowden, he can join via skype.

dannno
01-27-2015, 09:12 PM
I don't think this film is released in theaters yet is it?

There are ways to see it via the internet.. I've only seen a few minutes of it so far but it looks very good.

muh_roads
01-27-2015, 09:22 PM
I'm sorry Brian if this is against the rules, but everyone needs to see it ASAP.

https://kickass.so/citizenfour-2014-720p-web-dl-aac2-0-h264-fgt-t10106068.html

dannno
01-28-2015, 04:23 PM
I'm sorry Brian if this is against the rules, but everyone needs to see it ASAP.

https://kickass.so/citizenfour-2014-720p-web-dl-aac2-0-h264-fgt-t10106068.html

Ya I'm pretty sure this is NOT in theaters and this is the only way to see it..

dannno
02-02-2015, 08:43 PM
For how pertinent this documentary is to the movement, this thread should be 50 pages long.. wtf??

I still haven't watched the whole thing yet though, I queued it up last night and right after the fire alarm scene in the hotel about 30 minutes in (which is funny cause the same fire alarm in the hotel thing happened to Alex Jones one time..), my computer crashed and died a fiery death.

Suzanimal
02-06-2015, 06:34 PM
Coming to HBO!!! Yay!!!

February 23 @ 9pm

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/citizenfour#/

I saw it and it's disturbing. I have such an immense amount of respect for all the people involved. Please watch it and make everyone you know watch it too.

green73
02-06-2015, 06:45 PM
For how pertinent this documentary is to the movement, this thread should be 50 pages long.. wtf??

I agree. If it doesn't win the Oscar it will be a travesty, but not at all surprising. The surprising bit is that it's even nominated to begin with.

Everybody needs to see it!

green73
02-06-2015, 06:46 PM
Coming to HBO!!! Yay!!!

February 23 @ 9pm

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/citizenfour#/

I saw it and it's disturbing. I have such an immense amount of respect for all the people involved. Please watch it and make everyone you know watch it too.

I felt like I'd been kicked in the stomach.

surf
02-06-2015, 07:01 PM
I agree. If it doesn't win the Oscar it will be a travesty

Everybody needs to see it!Waco didn't. that's worth a watch if you want to be pissed off (and informed).

i'll be waiting for Netflix to carry it - on a disc... via mail.

muh_roads
02-06-2015, 07:03 PM
I felt like I'd been kicked in the stomach.

Jacob Appelbaum (in the documentary talking about pattern collection via association) is very interesting to listen to at any event...

It's creepy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jacob+appelbaum

PierzStyx
02-06-2015, 07:05 PM
I've had luck streaming form this site in the past, and it looks like they have it if you don't want to torrent it.

http://www.zmovie.tw/movies/view/citizenfour-2014

green73
02-06-2015, 07:08 PM
And any time any of you see the MSM characterising what is happening as just the mass collection of "meta data" make sure to call them out on their lies. It's EVERYTHING.

donnay
02-06-2015, 07:20 PM
Coming to HBO!!! Yay!!!

February 23 @ 9pm

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/citizenfour#/

I saw it and it's disturbing. I have such an immense amount of respect for all the people involved. Please watch it and make everyone you know watch it too.

I thought this was a great documentary. Definitely a "must see," no doubt.

Suzanimal
02-06-2015, 07:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiGwAvd5mvM

Suzanimal
02-08-2015, 07:47 PM
Snowden documentary CitizenFour wins DGA award for director Laura Poitras


A documentary about NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has won the prestigious Directors Guild Award as best movie in the category. Laura Poitras, the director of Citizenfour, received her award at a ceremony in Los Angeles on Saturday.

It was Laura Poitras’ first Directors Guild Award nomination. In 2006, her film My Country, My Country, about life for Iraqis under US occupation, was nominated for an Oscar.

Poitras told The Hollywood Reporter she had “checked in” with Edward Snowden to make him aware of the nomination.

“He is always very funny. He said ‘Well I guess I was wrong to advise you against bringing your camera.’ Cause originally he said it was a bad idea,” the director told the THR.

Citizenfour is a chronicle of making the world aware of the US National Security Agency’s global electronic surveillance program.

It begins with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald and film director Laura Poitras traveling to Hong Kong in June 2013 to become the first public figures to meet Edward Snowden – the government whistleblower and bring his findings to the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksBcRiM8QQ4

“This felt like the most dangerous work I had ever done, and I’ve been in conflict in war zones,” Poitras told Indie Wire.

She met the former NSA contractor many times throughout the movie that has a number of interviews with the former spy. Poitras researched the data leaked by Snowden to unravel the shocking truth about eavesdropping in modern society.

The documentary’s title was chosen following emails Poitras started to receive in January 2013 from an unknown recipient, who claimed to be a government official willing to disclose information about US global surveillance program. The author of the emails signed off as ‘Citizen Four’ turned out to be Edward Snowden.

http://rt.com/usa/230347-citizenfour-director-awarded-snowden/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqN3KvYUtYg

Brian4Liberty
02-13-2015, 10:54 AM
Coming to HBO!!! Yay!!!

February 23 @ 9pm

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/citizenfour#/

I saw it and it's disturbing. I have such an immense amount of respect for all the people involved. Please watch it and make everyone you know watch it too.

It's officially getting mainstream attention now. On one MSM show, they talked about it and showed clips. The host added a couple of times that "some people believe Snowden is a traitor" and that "Snowden is wanted on several felony espionage charges". They can't ignore it anymore though.

Brian4Liberty
02-13-2015, 10:55 AM
Ya I'm pretty sure this is NOT in theaters and this is the only way to see it..

It was in some theaters when this thread was created. But the fact that HBO will show it is bringing it out in the open now.


October 23, 2014 – Opening Friday in New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Washington D.C. is CITIZENFOUR

Suzanimal
02-16-2015, 07:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ5K2SqvpWA


A TIMESTALKS CONVERSATION

The New School's John L Tishman Auditorium, 63 Fifth Avenue, NYC
When whistleblower Edward Snowden exposed the National Security Agency’s worldwide electronic surveillance program, it was to Oscar–nominated filmmaker Laura Poitras and Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Glenn Greenwald. Don’t miss this special opportunity to hear the director of CITIZENFOUR – the film nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature – the first journalist to write about Snowden’s revelations and Snowden himself (via live video) in conversation with New York Times media columnist David Carr about the film and the issues it raises.

David Carr passed away shortly after this interview. His obituary is available here ​

http://timestalks.com/laura-poitras-glenn-greenwald-edward-snowden.html

green73
02-22-2015, 10:06 PM
Hey, it won the Oscar! That should get more people to see it. :)

AngryCanadian
02-22-2015, 11:09 PM
At least American Sniper didnt to many today it sure feels great. :D

Suzanimal
02-22-2015, 11:11 PM
Hey, it won the Oscar! That should get more people to see it. :)

Perfect timing too, it started showing on HBO tonight.

Suzanimal
02-22-2015, 11:45 PM
:mad:


And the Oscar for Best Documentary goes to... Citizenfour, the film about Edward Snowden's efforts to expose the National Security Administration for illegally spying on American citizens. It was directed by Laura Poitras and featured Glenn Greenwald; both journalists played an active role in bringing Snowden's revelations to light. (I've written previously about why Snowden is a hero to young libertarians who flocked to the International Students for Liberty Conference last week to hear him speak.)

This year's host, Neil Patrick Harris, made the following joke about the documentary's largely unsurprising victory: "Edward Snowden couldn't be here for some treason." That was actually one of his funnier quips of the evening, lazy and mildly insulting though it was.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/22/edward-snowden-documentary-wins-the-osca

Anti Federalist
02-22-2015, 11:51 PM
"The disclosures that Edward Snowden reveals don't only expose a threat to our privacy but to our democracy itself," said Poitras, accepting the Oscar.

Errk...graak...FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Damn it, comments like that make me lose my religion.

What is so fucking hard to understand about this:

Democracy CAUSED this!

Idiot AmeriKa WANTS this and votes for more and more of it every year.

economics102
02-23-2015, 01:16 AM
What is so fucking hard to understand about this:

Democracy CAUSED this!

Idiot AmeriKa WANTS this and votes for more and more of it every year.

Excellent point, thank you.

Thor
02-23-2015, 10:29 PM
Just saw it... WOW... I thought I was special. 1.2 M sheesh. I have got to be in that large a pool.

AuH20
02-23-2015, 10:31 PM
Just saw it... WOW... I thought I was special. 1.2 M sheesh. I have got to be in that large a pool.

Probably 80% of this forum is in that pool.

Brian4Liberty
02-24-2015, 01:31 PM
‘Citizenfour’ and the power of personal stories (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/02/24/citizenfour-and-the-power-of-personal-stories/)
By Alyssa Rosenberg - February 24


...
“Citizenfour,” which aired on HBO Monday night, is a dispatch from deep inside Poitras’s and Greenwald’s deposition of Snowden — Poitras filmed their 2013 meetings with him in Hong Kong — and it doesn’t always bridge the gap between the reporters’ experiences and a more general audience’s.

“To see it, the physical blueprints of it, and the technical expressions of it, brutally hits home in a super-visceral way that is so needed,” Greenwald says of one document. I’m sure that’s true for him, given his deep absorption in the details of American surveillance. But if you’re not steeped in the story the way Greenwald is, the bolts from the blue aren’t as obvious. And while long scenes of anti-surveillance activists contain some powerful insights, they also add to the sheer volume of information in a way that can be more overwhelming than clarifying.

To Poitras’s credit, part of the power of “Citizenfour” comes from the way the movie juxtaposes mundane facilities with the malignancy carried out inside of them. “We are building the greatest weapon for oppression in the history of man,” Poitras reads from Snowden’s communications over shots of a bland construction site. The movie has a droning score that evokes the hum of servers. We see still shots of green fields punctuated by satellite dishes, Menwith Hill station in the United Kingdom with its Epcot-like domes, Dagger Complex in Germany, which comes across as an office park with bad lighting and slightly better security.
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Snowden’s affect is muted, but even his tone can’t conceal all of the strain he obviously feels when he acknowledges that “I don’t think I’ll be able to keep the family ties that I’ve had for my life.” He’s proved right: his girlfriend Lindsay Mills (who now lives with him in Moscow and appeared on the Oscar stage on Sunday) is interrogated. “I just heard from Lindsay, and she’s alive, which is good, and free,” Snowden tells Poitras and Greenwald, revealing the full extent of his fears only in that expression of relief.
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More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/02/24/citizenfour-and-the-power-of-personal-stories/

green73
02-25-2015, 01:58 PM
I see they are showing it on UK TV tonight, which is cool since there's a lot of scary shit about what the Brits are doing too.

Suzanimal
03-04-2015, 06:02 AM
I didn't know Hollywood was making a Snowden movie.

http://i.imgur.com/MsWe0sM.png

Actor Gives Facebook A Firsthand Look At Hollywood’s ‘Snowden’


March 3, 2015—Amid reports concerning Edward Snowden’s recent statements, actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt shared a photo of himself as a young Snowden in U.S. Army uniform.

According to the actor, today marks the first day of shooting on Oliver Stone’s film about the NSA whistleblower.

The statement that accompanied the photo shows Gordon-Levitt was surprised to have learned Snowden wanted to fight in Iraq back in 2004. Unfortunately for the then teen Snowden, fractures to both of his legs led to an administrative discharge.

The actor also praised Snowden for deciding to continue to “serve his country” by getting involved with the CIA where his career began.

The actor closed his post with the following lines:

“Today’s scenes felt like a really good way to start this shoot. It was hard, but of course, nowhere near as hard as real basic training. And me, I’m just honored and excited to be doing a soldier sequence with Oliver. I keep saying to myself: ‘f***, this guy directed Platoon!'”

...

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/actor-gives-facebook-a-firsthand-look-at-hollywoods-snowden/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=VOL&utm_medium=email

Ronin Truth
03-04-2015, 01:12 PM
Finally managed to get "Citizenfour" DVR'd from HBO.

As an old retired techie, I think it's a keeper.

brushfire
03-04-2015, 01:43 PM
I didn't know Hollywood was making a Snowden movie.

http://i.imgur.com/MsWe0sM.png

Actor Gives Facebook A Firsthand Look At Hollywood’s ‘Snowden’



http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/actor-gives-facebook-a-firsthand-look-at-hollywoods-snowden/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=VOL&utm_medium=email


Something tells me this will be propaganda - just like american sniper.

Ronin Truth
03-04-2015, 02:39 PM
Probably 80% of this forum is in that pool.

But can they go after the ~12 million US sociopaths?
NOOOOOOO! Too many current and potential government employees, contractors and office holders. :p

randpaul2016
03-05-2015, 01:18 AM
watch the Oscar speech if you haven't already


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgt5KZz1A8Q

TheTexan
03-05-2015, 01:36 AM
Is this movie good or is it boring like most other documentaries?

Ronin Truth
03-05-2015, 10:12 AM
Is this movie good or is it boring like most other documentaries?

My SWAG, you probably won't like it.

Brian4Liberty
03-05-2015, 01:40 PM
Is this movie good or is it boring like most other documentaries?

Well, if you have followed the story, there won't be much new.

One realization that comes from the movie is the courage of these people to report on this. Most in the media would not touch this with a 100 foot pole. They are not only afraid for their careers, they are afraid of the government coming after them. Pretty sad state of affairs for the 1st Amendment and freedom of speech.

Thor
03-05-2015, 01:58 PM
Is this movie good or is it boring like most other documentaries?


Well, if you have followed the story, there won't be much new.

One realization that comes from the movie is the courage of these people to report on this. Most in the media would not touch this with a 100 foot pole. They are not only afraid for their careers, they are afraid of the government coming after them. Pretty sad state of affairs for the 1st Amendment and freedom of speech.

No, not much new, but still pretty interesting even though I knew the story...

It almost seemed too well done... just sayin.

CPUd
03-05-2015, 02:27 PM
Most of the events/conversations you see in the film have been previously described by Greenwald in the different interviews he has done since then. It is cool to get to see that stuff happen for real.

DamianTV
03-05-2015, 05:28 PM
Sadly, I still know people who do not even know who Edward Snowden is, or why he is so important.

Brian4Liberty
03-05-2015, 06:03 PM
I didn't know Hollywood was making a Snowden movie.


Another "real life" story brought to you by the Ministry of Truth...

Stratovarious
03-05-2015, 06:20 PM
Ok , I did not follow any of the Snowden story, what killed him, what is a credible source that fairly summarizes the
whole story ?
Someone made a comment about Netflix....?

Bastiat's The Law
03-05-2015, 07:30 PM
Very worthwhile documentary.

Suzanimal
03-05-2015, 10:07 PM
Ok , I did not follow any of the Snowden story, what killed him, what is a credible source that fairly summarizes the
whole story ?
Someone made a comment about Netflix....?

He's still alive.:) There's so much out there, I can't think of a definitive source right now. If you have HBO or have a friend that has HBO(It's also downloadable on itunes, I think), I highly recommend CitizenFour. I thought I knew the story but that film changed me, be prepared to be disturbed.

I'm not sure if/when it'll be on Netflix.

Stratovarious
03-06-2015, 07:17 AM
He's still alive.:) There's so much out there, I can't think of a definitive source right now. If you have HBO or have a friend that has HBO(It's also downloadable on itunes, I think), I highly recommend CitizenFour. I thought I knew the story but that film changed me, be prepared to be disturbed.

I'm not sure if/when it'll be on Netflix.
Great, I'll look for it or wait for it , Thanks.
Anything that is done by the Gov not inline with the Constitution should be expossed, and legally with no recourse from the gub, however the gov does have and uses unconstitutional remedies.

buck000
03-06-2015, 12:54 PM
There's so much out there, I can't think of a definitive source right now.

This is a pretty good start:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

:)

Suzanimal
04-07-2015, 02:14 PM
I didn't know Hollywood was making a Snowden movie.

http://i.imgur.com/MsWe0sM.png

Actor Gives Facebook A Firsthand Look At Hollywood’s ‘Snowden’



http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/actor-gives-facebook-a-firsthand-look-at-hollywoods-snowden/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=VOL&utm_medium=email


I really hope it's not shit.


Oliver Stone's Snowden movie films outside White House

SPOTTED: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Shailene Woodley and director Oliver Stone shooting a scene outside the White House Tuesday for an upcoming flick about Edward Snowden.

Some of the movie’s extras were seen carrying anti-Iraq War signs outside the fence surrounding 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, a popular spot for protesters.
Our spy eyed Gordon-Levitt, who plays the former National Security Agency contractor and government leaker, snacking on a banana between takes as he took direction from Stone. Woodley, who plays Snowden’s girlfriend, was seen laughing with crew members.

A crowd of about two-dozen onlookers had gathered to get a peek of the shoot for the film, which is poised to hit theaters on Christmas Day.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/238080-oliver-stones-snowden-movie-films-outside-white-house

Marenco
04-07-2015, 05:14 PM
I really hope it's not shit.

Hopefully Oliver Stone does justice to the story.

FSP-Rebel
05-23-2015, 09:20 PM
I was hoping this would've made it to youtube by now, still haven't seen it.:o

asurfaholic
05-24-2015, 01:13 AM
i couldnt find this film anywhere but finally was able to catch a rip of it.

what a powerful film.

Suzanimal
05-24-2015, 05:44 AM
You can stream it on Amazon for 14.99.

Mani
12-07-2015, 02:08 AM
I finally saw the movie. Was a bit chilling for me as I walk by his hotel in HK routinely.



Also made me re-admire how brave he was going through what he did. And how humble he was to reiterate he did not want this to become about him and distract from the message and why he's really doing this.



The chat exchanges were also fairly chilling.

I'm glad they included the lavabit because I think we all were following that closely as it was happening. Just how the guy was forced to shutdown from government pressure. I'm not sure if a general audience gets how scary that is.