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enhanced_deficit
10-20-2014, 10:16 PM
Bad news for swc clinton.

Monica Lewinsky joins Twitter: Why that's bad news for Hillary Clinton 2016 (+video)

Monica Lewinsky has re-entered public life, again. Why the former White House intern's return could pose a problem for Hillary Clinton in 2016.


October 20, 2014

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With three simple words, Monica Lewinsky (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Monica+Lewinsky) has broken her silence, re-entered public life, launched a campaign against cyber-bullying - and, quite possibly, thrown a major wrench in Hillary Clinton (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Hillary+Clinton)'s purported plans to run for the presidency in 2016....

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2014/1020/Monica-Lewinsky-joins-Twitter-Why-that-s-bad-news-for-Hillary-Clinton-2016-video


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Odds of Chelsea Clinton's daughter to be named Monica 1:200, Hillary 1:12 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?460527-Odds-of-Chelsea-Clinton-s-daughter-to-be-named-Monica-1-200-Hillary-1-12&)

Danke
10-20-2014, 11:15 PM
http://www.ecis.com/~sonny/MILK.BMP

William Tell
10-20-2014, 11:16 PM
I just followed her, thanks for the heads up.

amy31416
10-20-2014, 11:18 PM
It's pretty sad that Lewinsky still harbors some sort of grudge and hasn't moved on. Will she ever do something productive? I'll bet that she won't.

Peace&Freedom
10-20-2014, 11:19 PM
CNN talking heads, joking yesterday on how Monica quickly gained 1,000 followers, then 10,000 followers that day, said "she's spreading faster than Ebola!"

fr33
10-20-2014, 11:26 PM
It's pretty sad that Lewinsky still harbors some sort of grudge and hasn't moved on. Will she ever do something productive? I'll bet that she won't.

Put yourself in her shoes. She can't escape what she did as a young adult. It's her only notable claim to fame. Her partner of the sexual act is pulling 5 figures with every speech and to him it's as if she never existed.

FindLiberty
10-20-2014, 11:36 PM
Interesting... Heads up Monica!

Can you imagine a 2016 ballot with Hillary Clinton for POTUS and Monica Lewinsky as her VP running mate?

Of course they'd bring WJC along to the WH (waving a cigar*) and go on to produce the VERY BEST SHOW IN TOWN.
They would never have to even see each other in private, only showing up together for tightly scripted msm circus.

Why, Rand Paul wouldn't even have to waste a moment of his time running for POTUS, and instead focus
all energy on his senate re-election campaign.

The Libertarians could skip collecting all those ballot access signatures.

Former president Bill Clinton could skate around the 22nd amendment and talk ISIS into
voluntarily giving up an entire "is" from their name and achieve world peace by lunchtime!

Can't you just feel the tabloid economy revving up again?

+++

*I'm Baaack! (Yes, appoint WJR to fix the economy by misleading JQ public and goose up congress again - slickly & smoothly.)

invisible
10-21-2014, 12:26 AM
It's pretty sad that Lewinsky still harbors some sort of grudge and hasn't moved on. Will she ever do something productive? I'll bet that she won't.


I would consider torpedoing hillary's Presidential campaign to be extremely productive!

amy31416
10-21-2014, 12:39 AM
Put yourself in her shoes. She can't escape what she did as a young adult. It's her only notable claim to fame. Her partner of the sexual act is pulling 5 figures with every speech and to him it's as if she never existed.

Yeah, I can put myself in her shoes--and while I might roll my eyes every time he's mentioned, It's stupid to base your entire life on a person who doesn't even acknowledge your existence.

amy31416
10-21-2014, 12:40 AM
I would consider torpedoing hillary's Presidential campaign to be extremely productive!

Good point! :D

twomp
10-21-2014, 12:41 AM
It's pretty sad that Lewinsky still harbors some sort of grudge and hasn't moved on. Will she ever do something productive? I'll bet that she won't.

I personally hope she makes their lives a living hell while making a lot of money doing it. How many lives have the Clintons wrecked here and around the world? They deserve it.

lilymc
10-21-2014, 12:56 AM
She got 49 thousand followers in 18 hours???

Holy Moly!

Lord Xar
10-21-2014, 01:07 AM
I'm sure nothing will happen that will negatively affect Hillary..... because EVERYONE knows... that IF she used her twitter to burn Hillary's chances...

Suddenly....

She'll (Lewinsky), be suicided....

Peace&Freedom
10-21-2014, 06:24 AM
I'm sure nothing will happen that will negatively affect Hillary..... because EVERYONE knows... that IF she used her twitter to burn Hillary's chances...

Suddenly....

She'll (Lewinsky), be suicided....

The point is, every time Monica shows up in the news, whether she opens her mouth or not, she suicides Hillary's chances. Her very existence is a constant reminder that the last Clinton who was in the White House got IMPEACHED. It disrupts the 'protection of Hillary' racket that the MSM and Clinton machine have been running for over twenty years, through the 50+ Clinton scandals, and through all the heavily negative portraits of Hillary that were written even by Clinton White House staffers.

Hillary's media apologists are amazed Monica still gets lot of press beyond her supposed 15 minutes of fame window, and garners more interest than Hillary's last book did (millions of copies churned out, only 36,000 copies sold nationwide). So if Lewinsky does not deserve such continued notoriety, yet can still stay competitive with Hillary, what does that say about the latter? Monica exposes the elite's endless Hillary promotion for the overbearing, half-broken down projection machine that it has always been.

specsaregood
10-21-2014, 06:27 AM
The point is, every time Monica shows up in the news, whether she opens he mouth or not, she suicides Hillary's chances. Her very existence is a constant reminder that the last Clinton who was in the White House got IMPEACHED. It disrupts the 'protection of Hillary' racket that the MSM and Clinton machine have been running for over twenty years, through the 50+ Clinton scandals, and through all the heavily negative portraits of Hillary that were even written by Clinton White House staffers.


I take the opposite view. Her showing up only helps Hillary and she was probably encouraged to reemerge by that very same Clinton machine.

CaptUSA
10-21-2014, 06:41 AM
I take the opposite view. Her showing up only helps Hillary and she was probably encouraged to reemerge by that very same Clinton machine.

Yeah, I think I agree with this side of the argument.

I think that when most people consider the impeachment, they think of a time when Republicans went crazy trying to bring down Bill Clinton over sex. And they ruined this poor young girl's life to do so. Hillary, Monica, and even Bill, come out looking like victims. It was also a time when nobody was paying attention to the actual issues. Hillary can win a popularity contest rather easily - it's only when she has to defend her record when things get messy.

Spikender
10-21-2014, 06:59 AM
What do you think my chances are if I hit on her over Twitter?

osan
10-21-2014, 07:04 AM
I just followed her, thanks for the heads up.

Methinks in Monica's case, it would be head's down.

Oh, and for the record, I don't think Clinton should have been impeached for porking Monica. He should have been impeached for porking someone THAT foobin' homely. He was the friggin' POTUS, for heaven's sake. He should have shown better discriminatory taste than that. Bet he's latent.

osan
10-21-2014, 07:09 AM
It's pretty sad that Lewinsky still harbors some sort of grudge and hasn't moved on. Will she ever do something productive? I'll bet that she won't.

Hey Amy, be grateful she didn't do anything RE-productive. Just imagine the monstrosity that pair would have conjured up from the bowels of Hell. I mean, just take a honk at Chelsea. My retinas are beginning to bleed just thinking about it... damn, better stop before the damage is permanent. God knows the emotional scars will never fade.

Oh... have I been mean?

osan
10-21-2014, 07:11 AM
"she's spreading faster than Ebola!"

Bet that's what Bill was thinking back in the day...

osan
10-21-2014, 07:14 AM
I take the opposite view. Her showing up only helps Hillary and she was probably encouraged to reemerge by that very same Clinton machine.

Either way, the timing seems a mite "interesting", if you know what I mean.

Peace&Freedom
10-21-2014, 07:16 AM
I take the opposite view. Her showing up only helps Hillary and she was probably encouraged to reemerge by that very same Clinton machine.

That's not what the Clinton machine thinks, they keep Monica at javelin's length. When Hillary was up for re-election for Senate in 2006, somebody paid Monica to go to Europe and study there for a year, just to keep her out of impacting the NY race. Hilary did not want her around to possibly KO her re-election and destroy her momentum towards her 2008 Presidential run.


What do you think my chances are if I hit on her over Twitter?

You might get mauled, she's a cougar now.

William Tell
10-21-2014, 07:20 AM
She got 49 thousand followers in 18 hours???

Holy Moly!

Yeah, she's up to 55K of us now, she hasn't followed a single person yet.:eek: I'm wondering if she will follow me back first.
You followed me back though, you are an approachable celebrity, Lilly.:)

William Tell
10-21-2014, 07:25 AM
I would consider torpedoing hillary's Presidential campaign to be extremely productive!

I would even settle for her following me back.

specsaregood
10-21-2014, 07:26 AM
That's not what the Clinton machine thinks, they keep Monica at javelin's length. When Hillary was up for re-election for Senate in 2006, somebody paid Monica to go to Europe and study there for a year, just to keep her out of impacting the NY race. Hilary did not want her around to possibly KO her re-election and destroy her momentum towards her 2008 Presidential run.


I think you just supported my argument, in that she has previously allowed herself to be paid off/ told what to do for the betterment of Hillary's career. Her senate run was a decade and a half ago, demographics change, that's 15 years of the people who were most upset by the whole affair dying off and the boomers in her base getting to retirement age and the gen-x, gen-y'ers who didn't give a crap about the whole thing getting well into voting age. I stand by statement that this helps her if anything.

donnay
10-21-2014, 07:46 AM
I also think she is back to put the screws to Drudge and alternate media. She is playing victim...and blames everyone but herself.

Lewinsky: Drudge Ruined My Life...
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/monica-lewinsky-drudge-ruined-my-life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7icJSTjL8

Spikender
10-21-2014, 07:57 AM
I personally blame Clinton for seducing this poor young broad who lacked motor control of her hands and mouth.

twomp
10-21-2014, 11:38 AM
I take the opposite view. Her showing up only helps Hillary and she was probably encouraged to reemerge by that very same Clinton machine.

You mean the same Hillary Clinton that said this about her?


Hillary Clinton told a close friend that Monica Lewinsky was a "narcissistic loony toon."

Do you think the media will let Clinton forget that she said that about her? It's a cat fight and its fking awesome!

acptulsa
10-21-2014, 11:41 AM
Hillary Clinton told a close friend that Monica Lewinsky was a "narcissistic loony toon."


Of course. Hell, Slick Willie married one of those. He obviously has a weakness for the type...


Do you think the media will let Clinton forget that she said that about her? It's a cat fight and its fking awesome!

After giving her a pass on Whitewater and Benghazi and a host of other things--many of which we probably never heard about? Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

twomp
10-21-2014, 11:44 AM
Of course. Hell, Slick Willie married one of those. He obviously has a weakness for the type...

Isn't it fitting though? That the champion of "woman's rights" Hillary Clinton, would talk shit about a 20 yr old intern when her husband (the President of the United States) was just as guilty. Way to stand by your team Mrs. Clinton!

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2014, 12:15 PM
I also think she is back to put the screws to Drudge and alternate media. She is playing victim...and blames everyone but herself.

Lewinsky: Drudge Ruined My Life...
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/monica-lewinsky-drudge-ruined-my-life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7icJSTjL8

Well, that clears it up. Lewinsky is jumping on the "war on women" bandwagon. Obviously, the timing was right for her to join this cause. Yes, she mentioned Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities whose pics were stolen via Apple, and the power of the internet to ruin people. She also laments cyber-bullying and how people are so mean on the internet. She mentioned weight. Remember "weight is the new rape (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459057-quot-Weight-is-the-new-rape-quot)". She will be helping Hillary indirectly.

The scary part is that she wants a new "cultural revolution" to make people nice on the internet. For everything she has been through, she will not be blaming the left or the mainstream media that crucified her during the Lewinsky affair. She wants to go after the alternative media on the internet, and common everyday people who she thinks are being mean. She wants a war on the First Amendment. This has been part of the Clinton agenda for a long time too. They are also unhappy with uncontrolled free speech on the internet that might reveal their secrets, say mean things about them or even simply disagree with them.

This is the next step. The first step was Cultural Marxism to demonize those who disagree. The next step is to criminalize them. The final step is to eliminate all dissent. From Marx to Stalin.

enhanced_deficit
10-21-2014, 12:30 PM
I just followed her, thanks for the heads up.

Dangerous step.. it could help derail Hillary 2016 if Monica got too many twitter followers.


Isn't it fitting though? That the champion of "woman's rights" Hillary Clinton, would talk shit about a 20 yr old intern when her husband (the President of the United States) was just as guilty. Way to stand by your team Mrs. Clinton!

She is on "team opportunism".. like most politicians today.







http://www.ecis.com/%7Esonny/MILK.BMP

This photo crosses the line.



.. He should have shown better discriminatory taste than that. ..

Love is blind.. potuses, governors attest to that.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mTJSrDPa5is/TnL1VNCZx_I/AAAAAAAANlU/5pymyPtyg4Q/s1600/mildred%2Bbeane.png











Bet that's what Bill was thinking back in the day...

He is a splended thinker as were those around him.


Clinton email shows Jewish law cited as possible Lewinsky defense

Newly released document shows Jewish studies professor arguing during scandal that adultery is only between married parties

By Lazar Berman and AP October 12, 2014


http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/10/AP95111701735-e1413000090778-635x357.jpg (http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/10/AP95111701735-e1413000090778.jpg)This Official White House photo taken Nov. 17, 1995, from page 3179 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's report on President Clinton, showing President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky at the White House. (Photo credit: AP /OIC)


“According to classical Jewish law, President Clinton did not commit adultery; adultery is defined as a married man having intercourse with a married woman, and Monica Lewinsky is single,” the message sent to Clinton’s domestic policy advisor read, detailing a Dartmouth College Jewish studies professor’s defense of the president, according to the New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/10/11/clinton-era-e-mail-cited-jewish-law-as-defense-in-lewinsky-scandal/).

Read more: Clinton email shows Jewish law cited as possible Lewinsky defense | The Times of Israel

enhanced_deficit
10-21-2014, 12:43 PM
I also think she is back to put the screws to Drudge and alternate media. She is playing victim...and blames everyone but herself.

Lewinsky: Drudge Ruined My Life...


Not sure how controversial it was but had read about concpiracy theory way back that Matt Drudge, Linda Tripp , Lewinsky were all on same team when Drudge and forces behind him sought to gridlock Clinton due to his mideast moves that were making some zionists unhappy.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/docroot/dulcinea/fd_images/news/on-this-day/September-October-08/On-this-Day--Israel-Cedes-Civil-Control-of-West-Bank-to-Palestinians/news/0/image.jpg

Another actor in those policies, Rabin (on left in above photo), was allegedly killed by a zionist extremist.


Bill Clinton doubts Netanyahu can make peace

Former president, grilled at Harkin Steak Fry, agrees with pro-Palestinian activist that PM must be forced to make a deal

“First of all, I agree with that,” Clinton said. “But in 2000, [former prime minister] Ehud Barak, I got him to agree to something I’m not sure I would have gotten Rabin to agree to, and Rabin was murdered for giving land to the Palestinians.”
Clinton was referring to assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, who, together with Arafat and Clinton himself, signed the Oslo Peace Accords on the White House lawn in 1993 en route to putting areas of the West Bank under Palestinian Authority control.
“But Netanyahu is not the guy,” suggested the activist.
“I agree with that, but…I had him [Arafat] a state… He would have gotten 96% of the West Bank, land swaps in Gaza, appropriate water rights and East Jerusalem, something that hasn’t even been discussed since I left office,” Clinton replied. “And by the way, don’t forget, both Arafat and Abbas later said they would take it — ‘We changed our minds, we want it now’ — but by then they had a [Israeli] government [that] wouldn’t give it to them.”
At that point Clinton’s entourage escorted him away from the group, breaking off the exchange.


Read more: Bill Clinton doubts Netanyahu can make peace (http://www.timesofisrael.com/bill-clinton-doubts-netanyahu-can-make-peace)

dannno
10-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Well, that clears it up. Lewinsky is jumping on the "war on women" bandwagon. Obviously, the timing was right for her to join this cause. Yes, she mentioned Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities whose pics were stolen via Apple, and the power of the internet to ruin people. She also laments cyber-bullying and how people are so mean on the internet. She mentioned weight. Remember "weight is the new rape (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459057-quot-Weight-is-the-new-rape-quot)". She will be helping Hillary indirectly.

The scary part is that she wants a new "cultural revolution" to make people nice on the internet. For everything she has been through, she will not be blaming the left or the mainstream media that crucified her during the Lewinsky affair. She wants to go after the alternative media on the internet, and common everyday people who she thinks are being mean. She wants a war on the First Amendment. This has been part of the Clinton agenda for a long time too. They are also unhappy with uncontrolled free speech on the internet that might reveal their secrets, say mean things about them or even simply disagree with them.

This is the next step. The first step was Cultural Marxism to demonize those who disagree. The next step is to criminalize them. The final step is to eliminate all dissent. From Marx to Stalin.

Unfollowed.

enhanced_deficit
10-21-2014, 01:20 PM
(https://twitter.com/MonicaLewinsky)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/524181064671977473/3XKRspoM_normal.jpeg Monica Lewinsky @MonicaLewinsky · 16h 16 hours ago

#gratitude #overwhelmed #thankyou



This attitude of gratitude is encouraging, seriously considering joining the twitter followers.

Todd
10-21-2014, 01:22 PM
I would consider torpedoing hillary's Presidential campaign to be extremely productive!

+1

Too bad this fun stuff couldn't have waited to peak until next fall.

donnay
10-21-2014, 02:33 PM
Well, that clears it up. Lewinsky is jumping on the "war on women" bandwagon. Obviously, the timing was right for her to join this cause. Yes, she mentioned Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities whose pics were stolen via Apple, and the power of the internet to ruin people. She also laments cyber-bullying and how people are so mean on the internet. She mentioned weight. Remember "weight is the new rape (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459057-quot-Weight-is-the-new-rape-quot)". She will be helping Hillary indirectly.

The scary part is that she wants a new "cultural revolution" to make people nice on the internet. For everything she has been through, she will not be blaming the left or the mainstream media that crucified her during the Lewinsky affair. She wants to go after the alternative media on the internet, and common everyday people who she thinks are being mean. She wants a war on the First Amendment. This has been part of the Clinton agenda for a long time too. They are also unhappy with uncontrolled free speech on the internet that might reveal their secrets, say mean things about them or even simply disagree with them.

This is the next step. The first step was Cultural Marxism to demonize those who disagree. The next step is to criminalize them. The final step is to eliminate all dissent. From Marx to Stalin.

I am glad you are seeing this too. I wouldn't be surprise if she wasn't on the Clinton payroll. They want the alternative media shut down and they want control of the internet!

twomp
10-21-2014, 03:09 PM
Well, that clears it up. Lewinsky is jumping on the "war on women" bandwagon. Obviously, the timing was right for her to join this cause. Yes, she mentioned Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities whose pics were stolen via Apple, and the power of the internet to ruin people. She also laments cyber-bullying and how people are so mean on the internet. She mentioned weight. Remember "weight is the new rape (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459057-quot-Weight-is-the-new-rape-quot)". She will be helping Hillary indirectly.

The scary part is that she wants a new "cultural revolution" to make people nice on the internet. For everything she has been through, she will not be blaming the left or the mainstream media that crucified her during the Lewinsky affair. She wants to go after the alternative media on the internet, and common everyday people who she thinks are being mean. She wants a war on the First Amendment. This has been part of the Clinton agenda for a long time too. They are also unhappy with uncontrolled free speech on the internet that might reveal their secrets, say mean things about them or even simply disagree with them.

This is the next step. The first step was Cultural Marxism to demonize those who disagree. The next step is to criminalize them. The final step is to eliminate all dissent. From Marx to Stalin.

If that is true, how would that help Clinton? Wouldn't it make Bill Clinton the "bully?" The predator? Wouldn't that then make Hillary Clinton look even worse for defending her husband OVER a woman when they are both equally at fault?

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2014, 03:22 PM
I am glad you are seeing this too. I wouldn't be surprise if she wasn't on the Clinton payroll. They want the alternative media shut down and they want control of the internet!

Yeah, they have similar goals, and they are essentially playing for the same team. On the other hand, I don't see Hillary forgiving or forgetting. Hillary would probably order a drone strike on Lewinsky if she thought she could get away with it.

It would be more likely for Lewinsky to become openly friendly with politicians like Gillibrand, Boxer or Warren.

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2014, 03:27 PM
If that is true, how would that help Clinton? Wouldn't it make Bill Clinton the "bully?" The predator? Wouldn't that then make Hillary Clinton look even worse for defending her husband OVER a woman when they are both equally at fault?

It's a double edged sword. No doubt the Clinton's would have preferred to avoid it entirely.

And you are talking about being consistent and logical. Contradictions are not a problem for most voters. "Two plus two makes five."

TaftFan
10-21-2014, 03:30 PM
Who else is not surprised this thread turned to the topic of Zionism and Jews?

donnay
10-21-2014, 03:34 PM
Yeah, they have similar goals, and they are essentially playing for the same team. On the other hand, I don't see Hillary forgiving or forgetting. Hillary would probably order a drone strike on Lewinsky if she thought she could get away with it.

It would be more likely for Lewinsky to become openly friendly with politicians like Gillibrand, Boxer or Warren.



Again as evil as Hillary Clinton is, she probably helped orchestra the unveiling of the affair. Bill and Hillary are business partners, and it made people feel sorry for Hillary. Which helped promote her political career.

Legend1104
10-21-2014, 05:59 PM
I also think she is back to put the screws to Drudge and alternate media. She is playing victim...and blames everyone but herself.

Lewinsky: Drudge Ruined My Life...
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/monica-lewinsky-drudge-ruined-my-life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7icJSTjL8

Bingo. I don't have any problem with people being forgiven for doing something wrong like sleeping with a married man or whatever, but the fact that she does not seem to own up to her mistake and rather just blames everyone else for trashing her means that to me, she is doesn't deserve a come back. granted I will say that Clinton took advantage of his position and he is the bigger douche and should have suffered more than her, but at least he publicly admitted he did something wrong and doesn't play any victim card. She is ultimately responsible for her own actions.

Legend1104
10-21-2014, 06:02 PM
Dangerous step.. it could help derail Hillary 2016 if Monica got too many twitter followers.



She is on "team opportunism".. like most politicians today.








This photo crosses the line.




Love is blind.. potuses, governors attest to that.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mTJSrDPa5is/TnL1VNCZx_I/AAAAAAAANlU/5pymyPtyg4Q/s1600/mildred%2Bbeane.png












He is a splended thinker as were those around him.


Clinton email shows Jewish law cited as possible Lewinsky defense

Newly released document shows Jewish studies professor arguing during scandal that adultery is only between married parties

By Lazar Berman and AP October 12, 2014


http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/10/AP95111701735-e1413000090778-635x357.jpg (http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/10/AP95111701735-e1413000090778.jpg)This Official White House photo taken Nov. 17, 1995, from page 3179 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's report on President Clinton, showing President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky at the White House. (Photo credit: AP /OIC)


“According to classical Jewish law, President Clinton did not commit adultery; adultery is defined as a married man having intercourse with a married woman, and Monica Lewinsky is single,” the message sent to Clinton’s domestic policy advisor read, detailing a Dartmouth College Jewish studies professor’s defense of the president, according to the New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/10/11/clinton-era-e-mail-cited-jewish-law-as-defense-in-lewinsky-scandal/).

Read more: Clinton email shows Jewish law cited as possible Lewinsky defense | The Times of Israel

Biblically he is wrong. Clinton did commit adultery. Lewinski only committed fornication because she was not married. It does not matter the marital status of the other person, but rather that of yourself.

amy31416
10-21-2014, 06:55 PM
What's worse? Produced soap operas with bad actors or political soap operas with bad actors?

It's easy to avoid the former.

ghengis86
10-21-2014, 07:15 PM
Wow. Barry bombs children, gives billions to banks, and fucks Reggie love while he's 'golfing' and we're concerned about a 15 year old tramp, her chauvinistic partner and his bi/les wife? WTF, Maury's writers got a bonus, no? Good fucking grief

ghengis86
10-21-2014, 07:17 PM
What's worse? Produced soap operas with bad actors or political soap operas with bad actors?

It's easy to avoid the former.

Hmm...depends on which one you think is real and which one you think is scripted...oh wait

RonPaulIsGreat
10-21-2014, 08:00 PM
You guys are so old....

Whoredom is the in thing now, don't you know.

Kim Kardashen (however you spell it), Miley Cyrus, Slut Walks, Single Mother Glorification. You guys are sooooooo, 1990's like um seriously, gag me with a spoon already. Geeez.

osan
10-21-2014, 08:21 PM
I personally blame Clinton for seducing this poor young broad who lacked motor control of her hands and mouth.

She had enough control and presence of mind to keep her spooge-covered dress. That was no babe in the woods. She was the homeliest shark in the tank, but a shark in any event and she is showing it now in spades with all her victim-speak as she makes her play to retain some fragmented shred of relevance where there is none.

If she got all butt-hurt, it was by her own hand that it was so.

osan
10-21-2014, 08:31 PM
Wow. Barry bombs children, gives billions to banks, and fucks Reggie love while he's 'golfing' and we're concerned about a 15 year old tramp, her chauvinistic partner and his bi/les wife? WTF, Maury's writers got a bonus, no? Good fucking grief

Jeez d00d... de-knot your panties and employ some Summer's Eve to regain your springtime freshness. We're just having some fun at the expense of a criminally homely woman who doesn't have so much as the morals of an alley cat. So sorry, but if she was so immeasurably stupid at that age that she could not figure out that fucking the married POTUS in the Oval Office was a bad call, she deserves every lump of poo that has been, and shall yet be, heaped upon her. In her case, stupidity really was its own reward and given the price we paid under that bastard, I would say we've earned a little merriment at their expense.

economics102
10-21-2014, 08:42 PM
Put yourself in her shoes. She can't escape what she did as a young adult. It's her only notable claim to fame. Her partner of the sexual act is pulling 5 figures with every speech and to him it's as if she never existed.

I don't blame her for trying to cash in on the fame, but the fact that you used to hook up with a rich/famous person doesn't make you anything other than a former hook-up. How much money Bill Clinton makes is irrelevant. Besides, it's not like he's making money BECAUSE of her, he's making money in spite of her (what I mean is, I don't think the Lewinsky scandal made him more well-liked, quite the opposite).

economics102
10-21-2014, 08:43 PM
I'm guessing this is her way of saying "if you want me to go away Hillary, I expect another payoff."

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2014, 09:28 PM
If that is true, how would that help Clinton? Wouldn't it make Bill Clinton the "bully?" The predator? Wouldn't that then make Hillary Clinton look even worse for defending her husband OVER a woman when they are both equally at fault?

Actually, if you watch the video, Bill Clinton is not the bully. The bully is Matt Drudge and the Drudge Report.

Spikender
10-21-2014, 10:14 PM
She had enough control and presence of mind to keep her spooge-covered dress. That was no babe in the woods. She was the homeliest shark in the tank, but a shark in any event and she is showing it now in spades with all her victim-speak as she makes her play to retain some fragmented shred of relevance where there is none.

If she got all butt-hurt, it was by her own hand that it was so.

Stop victim-blaming and slut-shaming.

I will personally vouch for her on Twitter and all social media website as well as ghostwrite her autobiography if need be.

donnay
10-21-2014, 10:25 PM
You guys are so old....

Whoredom is the in thing now, don't you know.

Kim Kardashen (however you spell it), Miley Cyrus, Slut Walks, Single Mother Glorification. You guys are sooooooo, 1990's like um seriously, gag me with a spoon already. Geeez.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

amy31416
10-21-2014, 10:28 PM
Stop victim-blaming and slut-shaming.

I will personally vouch for her on Twitter and all social media website as well as ghostwrite her autobiography if need be.

C'mon--I hope you're joking, she's no victim. I don't personally care if she's a slut though.

Spikender
10-21-2014, 10:33 PM
C'mon--I hope you're joking, she's no victim. I don't personally care if she's a slut though.

I am not joking in the least.

I will stand by her side during every interview by the mongrel media and even wipe splooge off of her dress backstage as a courtesy.

osan
10-22-2014, 06:53 AM
Stop victim-blaming and slut-shaming.

I will personally vouch for her on Twitter and all social media website as well as ghostwrite her autobiography if need be.

I cannot tell whether you're joking in an extraordinarily dry fashion or need to lay off the meth.

Anyone?

ETA: I see I missed the part where you say you're not joking in the least.

May I recommend to you an extraordinarily gifted therapist?

ETA^2: Slut shaming? Pardon me, but the use of the term in this particular case seems to bespeak a lapse into some special brand of stupidity, whether temporary or otherwise. If you are unable to discern the fact that she was an adult and responsible for her choices, then intellectually speaking, you are a Meaner at the very best. Victim? VICTIM? Really, you cannot be serious. She'd have been a victim had Bill forcibly raped her. By her own recent words, that was not even remotely the case, and she could have claimed it and possibly gotten away with it, too. Therefore, I believe she speaks candidly and honestly on at least that point. Given that, victimhood is not hers; not at any time nor at any hands, save her own.

But if it pleases you to strop wildly with visions of Monica dearest in your visual cortex, please go right on ahead. I never begrudge a man his preferences, so long as he keeps the personal ones to hisownself. Whatever floats your boat, and all that.

I'm still not convinced you're not pulling our collective leg here. For your sake, I hope you are.

Peace&Freedom
10-22-2014, 07:18 AM
Actually, if you watch the video, Bill Clinton is not the bully. The bully is Matt Drudge and the Drudge Report.

This is why the spin strategy will fail, for the reason it did in the '90's: you can't finesse away a sex scandal. Sex sin is simple, as it is the fault of the direct party, period, and the public knows that. A complex finance or bureaucratic scandal can be papered over with "I fail to remember," or "the law is vague," or "the low level munchkin did it," but those excuses don't work with sex. Matt Drudge didn't snap his thong at Bill Clinton to get his attention, Monica did. Drudge didn't break his marriage vow or violate basic sexual harassment policy protocol by taking advantage of a subordinate, Bill Clinton did.

So this latest tactical error by Hillary simply conforms to her track record of fail. She has single handedly wrecked the elite's succession plan for continuous Bush/Clinton table tennis control of the Presidency since the '80's. In hindsight, we can see the flow was supposed to be: GHW Bush, followed by Bill Clinton for 8 years, then one of Bush's sons for 8 years, followed by Hillary Clinton for 8 years, then the other one of Bush's sons for 8 years. Heck, they may have had Chelsea in mind to get elected to Congress, in time to run to succeed Jeb Bush in 2024. But Hillary turned out to not even be able to beat out Obarry, a barely known freshman Senator with a shaky political past and documents history. I think her strategic acumen is overrated.

enhanced_deficit
10-22-2014, 10:17 AM
Valid point Legend, but this is about a person who even parses meaning of "is"..
Dems used to claim Billy was highly intelligent alpha male.

Spikender
10-22-2014, 10:24 AM
I cannot tell whether you're joking in an extraordinarily dry fashion or need to lay off the meth.

Anyone?

ETA: I see I missed the part where you say you're not joking in the least.

May I recommend to you an extraordinarily gifted therapist?

ETA^2: Slut shaming? Pardon me, but the use of the term in this particular case seems to bespeak a lapse into some special brand of stupidity, whether temporary or otherwise. If you are unable to discern the fact that she was an adult and responsible for her choices, then intellectually speaking, you are a Meaner at the very best. Victim? VICTIM? Really, you cannot be serious. She'd have been a victim had Bill forcibly raped her. By her own recent words, that was not even remotely the case, and she could have claimed it and possibly gotten away with it, too. Therefore, I believe she speaks candidly and honestly on at least that point. Given that, victimhood is not hers; not at any time nor at any hands, save her own.

But if it pleases you to strop wildly with visions of Monica dearest in your visual cortex, please go right on ahead. I never begrudge a man his preferences, so long as he keeps the personal ones to hisownself. Whatever floats your boat, and all that.

I'm still not convinced you're not pulling our collective leg here. For your sake, I hope you are.

This is exactly the sort of vitriol and hatred I've come to expect from Lewinsky's critics.

This woman deserves a statue as big if not bigger than the Washington Monument for exposing Clinton the man-whore to the public, and you have the nerve to suggest she's not a victim? Have you ever been a young nubile secretary serving under a sleazy man such as Clinton? No doubt he exercised the power of his office and forced this woman, who was much younger and much more naive at the time, into giving lil Bill a taste of her oval orifice.

I am not beholden to Monica because of her beauty (not to deny that she is essentially the spitting image of a Greek Goddess) but because of her perseverance in the face of the character assassinations and constant attacks by the media and the public.


This is why the spin strategy will fail, for the reason it did in the '90's: you can't finesse away a sex scandal. Sex sin is simple, as it is the fault of the direct party, period, and the public knows that. A complex finance or bureaucratic scandal can be papered over with "I fail to remember," or "the law is vague," or "the low level munchkin did it," but those excuses don't work with sex. Matt Drudge didn't snap his thong at Bill Clinton to get his attention, Monica did. Drudge didn't break his marriage vow or violate basic sexual harassment policy protocol by taking advantage of a subordinate, Bill Clinton did.

So this latest tactical error by Hillary simply conforms to her track record of fail. She has single handedly wrecked the elite's succession plan for continuous Bush/Clinton table tennis control of the Presidency since the '80's. In hindsight, we can see the flow was supposed to be: GHW Bush, followed by Bill Clinton for 8 years, then one of Bush's sons for 8 years, followed by Hillary Clinton for 8 years, then the other one of Bush's sons for 8 years. Heck, they may have had Chelsea in mind to get elected to Congress, in time to run to succeed Jeb Bush in 2024. But Hillary turned out to not even be able to beat out Obarry, a barely known freshman Senator with a shaky political past and documents history. I think her strategic acumen is overrated.

Good points all around. +Rep

donnay
10-22-2014, 10:27 AM
IMHO this is also a diversion because the movie "Kill the Messenger" has come out and the CIA drug business is exposed.

Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush were partners in helping these drugs into our country--just a thought.

Spikender
10-22-2014, 10:34 AM
IMHO this is also a diversion because the movie "Kill the Messenger" has come out and the CIA drug business is exposed.

I still need to see that.

The CIA drug business has been exposed long before that and it seems just about all the people on the street I talk to know about it but they don't seem to give a damn.

I think that's the main issue with a lot of this stuff is that people don't know what to do and just fall into apathy.

donnay
10-22-2014, 10:44 AM
I still need to see that.

The CIA drug business has been exposed long before that and it seems just about all the people on the street I talk to know about it but they don't seem to give a damn.

I think that's the main issue with a lot of this stuff is that people don't know what to do and just fall into apathy.

Lots of people have been conditioned to think they cannot fight city hall. I do not think it is apathy as much as it is about fear.

Gary Webb was clearly murdered, this is the message the CIA tries to get across. "You question or dare try to expose us, you will die!" The thing is they are ones who are frightened that they will be exposed. There is more of us then there is of them. That is why there is a lot of diversions here of late, IMHO.

Spikender
10-22-2014, 10:51 AM
Lots of people have been conditioned to think they cannot fight city hall. I do not think it is apathy as much as it is about fear.

Gary Webb was clearly murdered, this is the message the CIA tries to get across. "You question or dare try to expose us, you will die!" The thing is they are ones who are frightened that they will be exposed. There is more of us then there is of them. That is why there is a lot of diversions here of late, IMHO.

Perhaps, but for most people I've actually talked to face to face it is definitely apathy that they claim as their stumbling block, whether directly or indirectly. Fear certainly plays an element and may be at the core, but they wouldn't admit that outright. At least, not the majority of people.

The advantage they have is the inability to hold anyone accountable for things such as the CIA drug program, the contras, and the dozens of other atrocities our government has wrought. True, they fear being exposed, but who will be held accountable in the vast sea of bureaucrats and politicians? It is assumed going in the masterminds behind it all will never see justice.

donnay
10-22-2014, 11:01 AM
Perhaps, but for most people I've actually talked to face to face it is definitely apathy that they claim as their stumbling block, whether directly or indirectly. Fear certainly plays an element and may be at the core, but they wouldn't admit that outright. At least, not the majority of people.

The advantage they have is the inability to hold anyone accountable for things such as the CIA drug program, the contras, and the dozens of other atrocities our government has wrought. True, they fear being exposed, but who will be held accountable in the vast sea of bureaucrats and politicians? It is assumed going in the masterminds behind it all will never see justice.

A lot of what you wrote has made my point. From knee-high to a grasshopper to adulthood the Federal schools/TV shows/Movies/Books have conditioned these very thoughts in us. At the core is this fear light flickering--it needs to be extinguished. If we can just learn to break from the fear, then and only then, will we truly experience freedom.

Nothing is impossible when you have the drive to pursue it. Fear robs us of this drive.

Spikender
10-22-2014, 11:03 AM
A lot of what you wrote has made my point. From knee-high to a grasshopper to adulthood the Federal schools/TV shows/Movies/Books have conditioned these very thoughts in us. At the core is this fear light flickering--it needs to be extinguished. If we can just learn to break from the fear, then and only then, will we truly experience freedom.

Nothing is impossible when you have the drive to pursue it. Fear robs us of this drive.

Really, fear breeds apathy and they know it.

+Rep

enhanced_deficit
10-22-2014, 06:37 PM
IMHO this is also a diversion because the movie "Kill the Messenger" has come out and the CIA drug business is exposed.

Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush were partners in helping these drugs into our country--just a thought.

Looks like folks will have to multi-task and not let them use such diversions lol

pessimist
10-22-2014, 06:41 PM
good lord, is that lady STILL making news?

KEEF
10-22-2014, 06:42 PM
CNN talking heads, joking yesterday on how Monica quickly gained 1,000 followers, then 10,000 followers that day, said "she's spreading faster than Ebola!"

You heard spreading faster than Ebola? ...I thought I heard the commentator say spreading faster than her lips did around Clinton's Deep V Diver.

enhanced_deficit
10-22-2014, 06:48 PM
good lord, is that lady STILL making news?

Making news, setting twitter records, derailing HC2016, spurring new businesses and probably more.

Caution, graphic article.



http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/09/27/the-back-door-is-having-its-pop-culture-moment/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1411814723276.cached.jpgCreative Commons
Gabriella Paiella


09.27.14

The ‘Back Door’ Is Having Its Pop Culture Moment

When Americans think of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, certain salacious details spring to mind: the stained blue dress, the Oval Office...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/27/the-back-door-is-having-its-pop-culture-moment.html

donnay
10-22-2014, 06:50 PM
Looks like folks will have to multi-task and not let them use such diversions lol

That's it...they are coming at us from all angles. You need wings to stay above it all. Don't fear the Reaper. :)

William Tell
10-22-2014, 06:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0l8KcTCcAEK0l_.jpg:large

KEEF
10-22-2014, 06:57 PM
That's it...they are coming at us from all angles. You need wings to stay above it all. Don't fear the Reaper. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idO3VjT8sjk

enhanced_deficit
10-23-2014, 10:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0l8KcTCcAEK0l_.jpg:large

Irony.

Vanguard101
10-23-2014, 11:00 PM
Paul/Lewinsky 2016. Let's get it

enhanced_deficit
10-23-2014, 11:03 PM
Paul/Lewinsky 2016. Let's get it

Bad idea, it would make Hillary skip debates. Can't have election without debates.

enhanced_deficit
10-27-2014, 10:30 AM
Confused after google search, what is going on?


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ICYMI: House leadership has stalled on #immigration (https://twitter.com/hashtag/immigration?src=hash) reform for more than a year, so President Obama is taking action. http://ofa.bo/d04P (http://t.co/3SP7pQiV6c)
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Half you bastards don't even know who I am.
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Still can't believe how decent of a painter George Bush is.
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