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green73
10-10-2014, 08:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elSjXm_XP_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elSjXm_XP_I


Lamard Joye was celebrating his 35th birthday with friends last month near a basketball court in Coney Island, Brooklyn. At some point, the police arrived and stopped a friend of his.

From several feet away, Mr. Joye objected. What happened next is now under investigation by the Brooklyn district attorney’s office, which is in possession of a cellphone video of the ensuing confrontation.

The video of the encounter, on Sept. 16 at around 12:20 a.m., shows a police officer steering Mr. Joye against a chain-link fence to pat him down. “Look,” Mr. Joye says. “Look, you see this? Look.” The police officer reaches into Mr. Joye’s pocket, removes what appears to be a folded stack of bills and steps back.

“Give me my money,” Mr. Joye says in the video. The police officer then sprays something at him.

Mr. Joye said the officer took more than $1,000 in cash and deployed pepper spray.

cont.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/09/nyregion/man-accuses-officer-of-taking-more-than-1000-video-prompts-investigation.html?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytmetro&_r=1

Working Poor
10-10-2014, 08:48 AM
well what do you expect?

PaulConventionWV
10-10-2014, 09:05 AM
Despicable. How do these people live with themselves?

Keith and stuff
10-10-2014, 09:09 AM
Why are you sharing a really old video? The new socialist mayor of NYC said he would stop the evil practice while campaigning for the job. So clearly, not a single stop and frisk had happened since his election! Shame! Trust your master!

asurfaholic
10-10-2014, 09:44 AM
Clearly being in possession of such a large amount of cash only means the perp was involved with drugs or hookers. Or both.

Anti Federalist
10-10-2014, 10:09 AM
Some more of that 1% that Bratton was babbling about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/bratton-vows-to-root-out-bad-new-york-police-officers.html

Mr. Bratton did not say how many problem officers were thought to be in the ranks of the department’s 35,000 members. “The vast, vast, vast majority, that 99 percent” do their jobs well, he said. Those officers would benefit from his plans for a departmentwide retraining; the leaders in the room, he suggested, would be expected to guide that process.

TheTexan
10-10-2014, 10:29 AM
Clearly being in possession of such a large amount of cash only means the perp was involved with drugs or hookers. Or both.

Indeed. If that money is legitimate, he just needs to stop by the station, fill out a few forms, provide proof of the source of the money, wait a few weeks for his claim to be verified, and return with a lawyer to make any necessary appeals. It's really not that hard.

aGameOfThrones
10-10-2014, 11:04 AM
Indeed. If that money is legitimate, he just needs to stop by the station, fill out a few forms, provide proof of the source of the money, wait a few weeks for his claim to be verified, and return with a lawyer to make any necessary appeals. It's really not that hard.

I know you trolling but,




Mr. Marinelli said he has submitted pay and bank records to the district attorney showing his client, who works in construction, had earned a few thousand dollars in early September and had withdrawn a couple of thousand dollars, intending to celebrate his birthday with his wife.

“I believe that this officer made an assumption that any money Mr. Joye possessed was obtained illegally and therefore he would not report the theft,” Mr. Marinelli said. “This assumption was wrong. Mr. Joye is a hardworking taxpayer. An incident like this would never occur in a more affluent section of the city.”


BTW, just like with chokeholds the civilian review board will SWLOD this crime, they will very hard SWLOD (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?461069-NY-Despite-Many-SWLOD-Chokehold-Complaints-Rise&p=5668073#post5668073) it.

AuH20
10-10-2014, 11:12 AM
Some more of that 1% that Bratton was babbling about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/bratton-vows-to-root-out-bad-new-york-police-officers.html

Mr. Bratton did not say how many problem officers were thought to be in the ranks of the department’s 35,000 members. “The vast, vast, vast majority, that 99 percent” do their jobs well, he said. Those officers would benefit from his plans for a departmentwide retraining; the leaders in the room, he suggested, would be expected to guide that process.

It's probably closer to 66%.

twomp
10-10-2014, 12:40 PM
It's probably closer to 66%.

Yeah and if you are black, you should start leaving your money in the bank and use your ATM card right?

aGameOfThrones
10-10-2014, 12:46 PM
Yeah and if you are black, you should start leaving your money in the bank and use your ATM card right?


you're either an unofficial terrorist or an illegal drug dealer if you are using cash.

Christian Liberty
10-10-2014, 01:42 PM
Some more of that 1% that Bratton was babbling about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/bratton-vows-to-root-out-bad-new-york-police-officers.html

Mr. Bratton did not say how many problem officers were thought to be in the ranks of the department’s 35,000 members. “The vast, vast, vast majority, that 99 percent” do their jobs well, he said. Those officers would benefit from his plans for a departmentwide retraining; the leaders in the room, he suggested, would be expected to guide that process.

Even if that's true, the system is set up in a way that the 1% (I'd be shocked if it was only 1%) can get away with it.


It's probably closer to 66%.

And the other 34%?

ZENemy
10-10-2014, 01:52 PM
Some more of that 1% that Bratton was babbling about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/bratton-vows-to-root-out-bad-new-york-police-officers.html

Mr. Bratton did not say how many problem officers were thought to be in the ranks of the department’s 35,000 members. “The vast, vast, vast majority, that 99 percent” do their jobs well, he said. Those officers would benefit from his plans for a departmentwide retraining; the leaders in the room, he suggested, would be expected to guide that process.

There are roughly 800,000 cops (local, state, fed). If only 2% are "bad", that's 16,000 dirt-bags doing bad things, and 784,000 (Good cops?) dirt-bags looking the other way.

Christian Liberty
10-10-2014, 02:08 PM
There are roughly 800,000 cops (local, state, fed). If only 2% are "bad", that's 16,000 dirt-bags doing bad things, and 784,000 (Good cops?) dirt-bags looking the other way.

That's a lot of cops...

I wonder how many of those we could fire just by repealing all drug laws and gun laws, not considering everything else...

Christian Liberty
10-10-2014, 02:10 PM
800,000 cops, plus their families, plus close friends of cops (if you're close enough friends of one to argue against the statement "all cops are bad" with "but my friend is a cop" you would qualify for this IMO)... I don't know the exact numbers here but I'm expecting the math says that at least one person from one of these categories will likely end up on every jury... That would explain why cops never seem to get convicted...

Anti Federalist
10-10-2014, 02:15 PM
That's a lot of cops...

I wonder how many of those we could fire just by repealing all drug laws and gun laws, not considering everything else...

Actually the number is close to a million.

Christian Liberty
10-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Actually the number is close to a million.

I was just going with the number ZENemy provided. I honestly don't know myself.

Anti Federalist
10-10-2014, 02:29 PM
I was just going with the number ZENemy provided. I honestly don't know myself.

You have to add in "enforcement and compliance agents" to that number.

If you want to add TSA as well, (they do call themselves "officers" after all) the number is well over a million.

Christian Liberty
10-10-2014, 02:32 PM
You have to add in "enforcement and compliance agents" to that number.

If you want to add TSA as well, (they do call themselves "officers" after all) the number is well over a million.

I'm not sure if TSA even qualify as human. If so than I guess...

specsaregood
10-10-2014, 02:32 PM
Despicable. How do these people live with themselves?

They build themselves pools, buy boats, buy rental houses, dine out, send their kids to private schools and more. That's how.

Mani
10-13-2014, 02:18 AM
You have to add in "enforcement and compliance agents" to that number.

If you want to add TSA as well, (they do call themselves "officers" after all) the number is well over a million.


If you add in all the alphabet agencies that walk around with badges and guns, I think it's way over a million.

Spikender
10-13-2014, 03:12 AM
I got into it with one of my coworkers about civil forfeiture. I was surprised he got caught up in the "it's all drug money" non-sense since he was always the type to question the police. I had to tell him that most of it really has nothing to do with that and is just money stolen from people like you and I because we simply got caught with cash or property in the wrong place at the wrong time and the agents of the state decided to take their pound of flesh.

Well, more than they already take after taxes, of course.

AuH20
10-13-2014, 09:54 AM
Did you hear that the individual in question was full of it? It was actually $60 bucks or something like that.

sparebulb
10-13-2014, 10:13 AM
Did you hear that the individual in question was full of it? It was actually $60 bucks or something like that.

No, I didn't see that. But that's good news, its not nearly as bad in that case.

sparebulb
10-13-2014, 10:29 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-62-brooklyn-stop-and-frisk-1-300-article-1.1969767


Cops must be right on this one. $62 was vouchered by the cops. It is proof positive that there was no $1300 and the black man is lying like an attempted cop killer would do. Oh yes, the article mentions that the black man spent 10 years in prison for attempting to kill a police offier, although he was not convicted on that charge.

Anti Federalist
10-13-2014, 04:13 PM
Did you hear that the individual in question was full of it? It was actually $60 bucks or something like that.

Who says?

The cops?

And what if it was?

It's OK for cops to just shake you down, as long as they steal $100 or less?

aGameOfThrones
10-13-2014, 04:28 PM
I'm gonna steal your 1300, but gonna put 62 in the theft ticket I'm gonna give you.

PaulConventionWV
10-13-2014, 06:27 PM
They build themselves pools, buy boats, buy rental houses, dine out, send their kids to private schools and more. That's how.

Oh, that actually sounds pretty good. Where do I sign up?

PaulConventionWV
10-13-2014, 06:29 PM
No, I didn't see that. But that's good news, its not nearly as bad in that case.

The crime isn't as bad, but it actually makes the cop worse. Just imagine, if he cares enough about that $60 he randomly sees on someone to steal it, what won't he do?

PaulConventionWV
10-13-2014, 06:31 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-62-brooklyn-stop-and-frisk-1-300-article-1.1969767


Cops must be right on this one. $62 was vouchered by the cops. It is proof positive that there was no $1300 and the black man is lying like an attempted cop killer would do. Oh yes, the article mentions that the black man spent 10 years in prison for attempting to kill a police offier, although he was not convicted on that charge.

Damn, the bastard got away with it!