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tod evans
10-09-2014, 05:42 AM
From Drudge;

Unrest in St. Louis After Police Officer Shoots, Kills Man

https://gma.yahoo.com/unrest-st-louis-police-officer-shoots-kills-man-061859179--abc-news-topstories.html

The fatal shooting of an 18-year-old black man in south St. Louis by an off-duty police officer sparked a night of unrest in a city still reeling from the August slaying of an unarmed man in nearby Ferguson.

Wednesday's shooting happened at about 7:30 p.m. in the city's Shaw Neighborhood, and involved an officer working a department-approved secondary job for a private security company, Police Chief Sam Dotson said at an early-morning news conference.
The officer approached a group of men. One of the men took off running, Dotson said, so the officer pursued. Dotson said the suspect approached the officer in an "aggressive" manner, with a physical altercation occurring. The man then turned and fired three rounds at the officer before his gun jammed, Dotson said.

The officer, who was not injured, returned fire, shooting 17 times and fatally wounding the man, Dotson said.

A gun was recovered at the scene. The officer was placed on administrative leave, as per department policy, police said.
Police have not identified the officer or the man he killed.
The incident comes nearly two months to the day after the police shooting of Michael Brown, 18, in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, located about 20 miles away. Brown's shooting sparked weeks of protests and spawned national discourse about police use of force.
Some of the people protesting recently in Ferguson were seen in St. Louis after Wednesday's shooting, Dotson said.
“Tensions in the region are very high,” Dotson said. “Any police officer use of force certainly will draw attention.”
St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, who documented the turmoil in Ferguson after Brown's Aug. 9 shooting death, reflected on the region's renewed anguish.
"At the scene of yet another young man's death,” he wrote on Twitter. “This happens too often in our city. It's a crisis that we should all be concerned about.”
Activists took to the streets of St. Louis overnight, marching and chanting, seeking answers.
Some police vehicles were damaged during the protests, with windows smashed, Dotson said.
People also shared their frustration on social media, with #shawshooting the most popular national trending topic on Twitter.

presence
10-09-2014, 06:56 AM
Knee Jerk = Suspect fired 3 shots... Officer returned fire. But then:


The officer approached a group of men. One of the men took off running, Dotson said, so the officer pursued.

Did he ID as a cop and say "stop you're under arrest" ???

If so... from dude's perspective... he was getting chased by a wacko and fired 3 shots in self defense.



The other less than credible part of the cop's story was that the suspects 9mm Ruger Jammed. LC9 or SR9 Jammed? Really? Maybe it was a P95?


And then this tidbit:


When I pulled up I saw the cop standing over him (Myers) then he pointed the gun at everyone else telling everyone to get back while he was searching for another clip


Since when is that acceptable?

CaptUSA
10-09-2014, 07:03 AM
Even if you believe the reported story, the suspect's gun jammed after 3 shots, but the security guard kept firing. In fact, he had to reload.

presence
10-09-2014, 07:15 AM
Thread: Iraq War Vet: "We Were Told to Just Shoot People, and the Officers Would Take Care of Us" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?424342-Iraq-War-Vet-quot-We-Were-Told-to-Just-Shoot-People-and-the-Officers-Would-Take-Care-of-Us-quot)

Something else we were encouraged to do, almost with a wink and nudge, was to carry 'drop weapons', or by my third tour, 'drop shovels'. We would carry these weapons or shovels with us because if we accidentally shot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body, and make them look like an insurgent."

GunnyFreedom
10-09-2014, 08:09 AM
Even if you believe the reported story, the suspect's gun jammed after 3 shots, but the security guard kept firing. In fact, he had to reload.

Withholding judgement on the story for now, however it's not necessarily true that he had to reload:

http://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazines/xd-magazine-9mm-16-round-sku817000014-21714-46575.aspx


ITEM DETAILS
Capacity: 16-Round

Cartridge: 9 mm Luger

Finish: Stainless Steel

Quantity: 1

MAKE MODEL
Make: Springfield

Model: XD

Beorn
10-09-2014, 08:10 AM
Ftr, the officer was working security in police uniform.

Yeah, I know.

GunnyFreedom
10-09-2014, 08:11 AM
Thread: Iraq War Vet: "We Were Told to Just Shoot People, and the Officers Would Take Care of Us" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?424342-Iraq-War-Vet-quot-We-Were-Told-to-Just-Shoot-People-and-the-Officers-Would-Take-Care-of-Us-quot)



If I thought for a minute we could actually trust the investigation (I really don't) then this would be pretty easy to rule out with a paraffin/residue test on the hands of the alleged suspect.