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0zzy
12-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Ron Paul is a baby elephant (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/12/03/ron_paul/)

But perhaps the best explanation of the Paul phenomenon came from Rammelkamp, the young man from Long Island who had taken on significant credit card debt for the Paul campaign. He told me that to understand Paul, I had to think of the American people as a baby elephant, chained to a tree. "It realizes that it can only walk 5 feet in each direction. It realizes that it is a slave. When it grows old enough, it is strong enough to break away from the tree. But it doesn't know." He pauses, to let this sink in -- the American people are a captive animal unaware of its own power to claim liberty. "When was the last time you tried it?" he asks me of breaking free. "Maybe you are strong enough."

"The message is so powerful, in spite of my shortcomings" (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/12/03/paul_interview/)

You are a result of how politics is changing with the Internet. How do you see in five or 10 years from now, whether or not you win, this country moving because of these technological changes, this ability for people to mobilize themselves? How does politics change?

The technology is absolutely secondary. It's a vehicle. It's a tool. The driving force is the philosophy. It just happens that the two have come together. Our country has gone astray. There are all kinds of problems. People are hurting. They want something new. The philosophy comes along. We offer this. And it's a potential solution. People are interested, and then the vehicle just happens to be the Internet. So it has come together. So many politicians come to me: "How do we harness the Internet to go after this, or these successful politicians?" It's not going to work. It's totally unrelated. I mean, there is the vehicle and there is the problem. People call us, because they are so naive, they'll call us and say, "We have some Internet lists. We'd like to rent them to you." Internet lists? They think we rent lists to go out and solicit people. But they solicit us, because of the philosophy, because of the problem, they put this together. It is not just the vehicle, the Internet. That is the tool to solve the problem, and it has been a very useful tool.

0zzy
12-02-2007, 09:35 PM
I like that explanation btw!

Chibioz
12-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Very nice article

walt
12-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Ron Paul is a baby elephant (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/12/03/ron_paul/)



A former door-to-door frozen meat salesman - I mean who would actually say this to a reporter - besides who has ever heard of such a thing - a door to door frozen meat salesman? It's just bizarre - almost intentionally so.

Mark Rushmore
12-02-2007, 09:55 PM
A former door-to-door frozen meat salesman - I mean who would actually say this to a reporter - besides who has ever heard of such a thing - a door to door frozen meat salesman? It's just bizarre - almost intentionally so.


While eating some quick lunch, the doorbell rang and as I walked past the window to answer it, I cringed when I saw a Ford Ranger had somehow squeezed next to my Trooper in my own driveway. Turns out the driver was some kind of frozen meat salesman and was going door-to-door selling his wares (there was a large cooling device in the bed of his truck).

The one I really despise is a frozen meat salesman from Atlanta. He has been here several times with the same stupid story, someone ordered meat, they're not home to receive it and he will give me a good price, if I will take it off his hands.

By GeorginaA on Fri 05-Mar-04 15:11:26
A frozen meat salesman came past in his van and helped pull us out but only after we'd bought about £50 worth of stuff off them
By GeorginaA on Fri 05-Mar-04 15:11:45
Oh, and the meat wasn't that great either.

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Sorry, I know it's off topic, but after 4 hours trudging through snow going door to door for ballot access sigs I need some lightheartedness - and this stuff is great.

walt
12-02-2007, 10:00 PM
While eating some quick lunch, the doorbell rang and as I walked past the window to answer it, I cringed when I saw a Ford Ranger had somehow squeezed next to my Trooper in my own driveway. Turns out the driver was some kind of frozen meat salesman and was going door-to-door selling his wares (there was a large cooling device in the bed of his truck).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=DGUS%2CDGUS%3A2006-25%2CDGUS%3Aen&q=frozen+meat+door+to+door+sales just as I suspected the connotations are negative. Does this person really exist?

Mark Rushmore
12-02-2007, 10:02 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=DGUS%2CDGUS%3A2006-25%2CDGUS%3Aen&q=frozen+meat+door+to+door+sales just as I suspected the connotations are negative. Does this person really exist?

I was more concerned with the presentation of the Long Island man. "living in his parents basement - donating all this money on credit with no real idea on how he's going to pay it back"

But I dunno, I thought the energy and buzz of the article, and the way it closed - left it being quite positive.

walt
12-02-2007, 10:05 PM
I was more concerned with the presentation of the Long Island man. "living in his parents basement - donating all this money on credit with no real idea on how he's going to pay it back"

But I dunno, I thought the energy and buzz of the article, and the way it closed - left it being quite positive.

if people made it that far.

regarding the credit card, if the guy said the currency isn't worth anythin ganyway in a fiat empire - hey then at least he has a core belief at the extreme end of the spectrum.

Roxi
12-03-2007, 12:20 AM
A former door-to-door frozen meat salesman - I mean who would actually say this to a reporter - besides who has ever heard of such a thing - a door to door frozen meat salesman? It's just bizarre - almost intentionally so.


no its not bizarre, i know several door to door meat salesmen and they are awesome i ran into one the other day who is a RP supporter as well, we might be buying meat from him for the OFLD members i took some pictures of his stuff, he had the biggest scallops EVER!!

heres some pics

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9531/meat3800x600uw9.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2661/meat4800x600wm9.jpg

AND no im not a weirdo for taking pics of meat, Im thinking of buying in bulk for OFLD volunteers :)