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jct74
10-03-2014, 12:26 AM
Election day is only one month away. Follow the latest on the marijuana ballot initiatives in this thread and post any updates you come across.

From NORML Smoke The Vote (http://norml.org/about/smoke-the-vote):


Alaska: Measure 2 (Legalization)

website: http://regulatemarijuanainalaska.org/
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RegulateMJinAK
twitter: https://twitter.com/VoteYesOn2AK
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/RegulateMarijuanaAK


The following is an overview of the proposed ballot measure:

- Includes a statement saying the initiative is not intended to diminish the rights established by the Alaska Supreme Court in the Ravin case, which allow citizens to possess a limited amount of marijuana in their homes. It also includes a statement saying the initiative will not diminish the rights of patients or caregivers under Alaska’s medical marijuana law.
- Makes possession of up to one ounce of marijuana and up to six plants (three flowering) legal for adults 21 years of age or older. It also allows adults to possess the marijuana produced by the plants on the premises where the plants are grown.
- Makes manufacture, sale and possession of marijuana accessories legal.
- Grants regulatory oversight to the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, but gives the legislature the authority to create a new Marijuana Control Board at any time.
- The regulatory board has nine months to enact regulations, and applications shall be accepted one year after the effective date of the initiative.
- Creates the following marijuana establishments: marijuana retail stores, marijuana cultivation facilities, marijuana infused-product manufacturers, and marijuana testing facilities.
- Allows localities to ban marijuana establishments, but they cannot prohibit private possession and home cultivation.
- Establishes an excise tax of $50 per ounce on sales or transfers from a marijuana cultivation facility to a retail store or infused-product manufacturer.
- Consumption of marijuana in public will remain illegal and punishable by a $100 fine.
- The initiative does NOT change existing laws related to driving under the influence.
- Allows employers to maintain restrictions on marijuana use by employees.

You can read the full text of the initiative here (http://regulatemarijuanainalaska.org/full-initiative-text/).


Polls:


PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Dittman Research (http://amandacoyne.com/politics/dittman-research-poll-counters/)Measure 2
43
53
-10
9/30-10/3
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/08/begich-leads-challengers-in-re-election-bid.html)Measure 2
44
49
-5
7/31-8/3
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/05/alaskans-down-on-palin-as-presidential-candidate.html)Measure 2
48
45
+3
5/8-5/11
Dittman Research (http://www.housemajority.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2014-House-Majority-Survey-Presentation-PRINT-VERSION-FINAL.pdf)Measure 2
52
44
+8
3/4-3/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/02/alaska-supports-gay-marriage-for-first-time.html)marijuana legalization
55
39
+16
1/30-2/1


Result: PASSED!

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
52.1%
116,803
NO
47.9%
107,179



http://i.imgur.com/CDWxyxE.png



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Oregon: Measure 91 (Legalization)

website: http://voteyeson91.com/
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newapproachoregon
twitter: https://twitter.com/voteyeson91
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKDlTHztc7OaSd1UTM6zeyA


- Removes penalties for adults over the age of 21 who possess, use, and grow a limited amount of marijuana.
- The Oregon Liquor Commission would be tasked to establish a system of state regulated marijuana processors, wholesalers, retailers, and producers.
- Individuals over 21 will be able to possess up to eight ounces of marijuana and grow no more than four marijuana plants per household.
- Individuals over 21 would be able to purchase up to an ounce of marijuana, 16 ounces of marijuana products in solid form, or 72 ounces of marijuana products in liquid form.

You can read the full text of the measure here (http://voteyeson91.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/053text.pdf).


Polls:


PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/10/marijuana_legalization_poll_or.html)Measure 91
44
46
-2
10/26-10/27
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=75ff4fa8-60ee-470b-af50-0934993b283d)Measure 91
52
41
+11
10/23-10/27
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=9b06ee8f-0665-4c61-87b9-e3d8fa4cb91c)Measure 91
48
37
+11
10/16-10/19
DHM Research (http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1413329564/101414_ElectionSurvey_csfrca.pdf)Measure 91
52
41
+9
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a2828710-8eac-4663-973d-3912ca87f337)Measure 91
44
40
+4
9/22-9/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=005a915d-93f5-4dc8-b982-324b58e9eaa7)marijuana legalization
51
41
+10
6/5-6/9


Result: PASSED!

93.8% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
55.3%
757,019
NO
44.7%
611,557



http://i.imgur.com/UTigo1k.png



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Washington, DC: Initiative 71 (Legalization)

website: http://dcmj.org/
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dcmj2014
twitter: https://twitter.com/DCMJ2014
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrutmkM3IgpohQY6nubjwBA


If approved, Initiative 71 would:

- Legalize adult possession of up to two ounces of marijuana for personal use.
- Allow adults over 21 to grow no more than six cannabis plants with 3 or fewer being mature, flowering plants, within the person’s principal residence.
- Allow for the transfer without payment (but not sell) up to one ounce of marijuana to another person 21 years of age or older.
- Allow for the use or sale drug paraphernalia for the use, growing, or processing of marijuana or cannabis.

Full text of the initiative can be read here (http://dcmj.org/ballot-initiative/).


Polls:


PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/46479/the-politics-issue-2014/?x=Initiative%2071&y=Initiative%2071)Initiative 71
52
35
+17
10/20-10/22
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-legalized-marijuana-in-dc/2014/09/18/8956e4d8-3f60-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_graphic.html)Initiative 71
65
33
+32
9/14-9/16
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-marijuana-legalization-grows-in-the-district/2014/01/15/9ecbd380-7e06-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_graphic.html)marijuana legalization
63
34
+29
1/9-1/12


Result: PASSED!

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
69.4%
96,113
NO
30.6%
42,280



http://i.imgur.com/4qzVAss.png



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Florida: Question 2 (Medical Marijuana)

website: http://www.unitedforcare.org/
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UnitedForCare
twitter: https://twitter.com/UnitedForCare
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU3AREYGvlv0WK8Ap0qWfkw
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzr3g1Mxq60va2VfYd1Wyjw

Allows the medical use of marijuana for individuals with debilitating diseases as determined by a licensed Florida physician. Allows caregivers to assist patients’ medical use of marijuana. The Department of Health shall register and regulate centers that produce and distribute marijuana for medical purposes and shall issue identification cards to patients and caregivers. Applies only to Florida law. Does not authorize violations of federal law or any non-medical use, possession or production of marijuana.

You can read the full text of the initiative here (http://www.unitedforcare.org/ballot_language_1).

Polls:


PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
+/-
Date
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_November _02_DU7W.pdf)Amendment 2
53
43
+10
11/2
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/11/fl-mi-il-gov-races-all-too-close-to-call.html)Amendment 2
53
41
+12
11/1-11/2
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-florida-governors-race-tied/2204451)Amendment 2
46
43
+3
10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/unitedforcare/pages/1700/attachments/original/1414524323/SUMMARY_--_FL_MMJ_STATEWIDE_OCT_27_2014.pdf?1414524323)Amend ment 2
62
35
+27
10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling-2/)Amendment 2
50
42
+8
10/22-10/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3a70ad2-0549-4804-9c9e-a8a7aa3f9e25)Amendment 2
52
36
+16
10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling/)Amendment 2
55
39
+16
10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center (http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/10/15/fl_poll_marijuana.html)Amendment 2
48
44
+4
10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_October_ 13_L2GM.pdf)Amendment 2
52
39
+13
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
+21
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
+25
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
+28
9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-many-voters-still-unsure-about-medical-marijuana-amendment/2195990)Amendment 2
57
24
+33
8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
64
26
+38
8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
+31
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
+32
1/16-1/21


Note: A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.


Result: FAILED

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
57.6%
3,363,522
NO
42.4%
2,476,108



http://i.imgur.com/Agkpm45.png

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jct74
10-03-2014, 02:33 PM
wow, this scumbag is throwing in the big bucks...



Sheldon Adelson Donates Another $1.5 Million to Anti-Medical Marijuana Group

By Chris Joseph
Fri., Oct. 3 2014 at 1:05 PM

With a net worth of $37 billion, casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, has donated another $1.5 million to the No On 2 campaign (or, Drug Free Florida) -- the biggest medical marijuana opposition in the state.

He had helped kick off the campaign when he donated $2.5 million to get things started back in June.

The 80-year-old Adelson, who has been a big-time contributor to conservative campaigns throughout his life, is chairman and chief executive officer of the Las Vegas Sands Corp., which runs the Venetian Resort Hotel Casino and the Sands Expo and Convention Center in Las Vegas.

He has also funded drug addiction clinics in Nevada and Israel and believes pot to be a gateway drug.

The big donation comes right after No On 2's recent ad attacking medical marijuana legalization by claiming that Amendment 2 has a loop hole in it's care giver provision that would allow anyone -- including felons and drug dealers -- to become caregivers:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNobrt_r3J0

...

read more:
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2014/10/sheldon_adelson_donates_another_15_million_to_anti-medical_marijuana_group.php

jct74
10-03-2014, 02:59 PM
some more "No on 2" ads



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjTg-ogSYsU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilw6iYOyc9s



I don't think "Yes on 2" has aired any ads yet. And they are going up against Adelson's millions. This could be a tough one.

Jackie Moon
10-03-2014, 04:41 PM
This freakin guy. Can't shake him. Every issue that I care about he ends up funding the other side.

I just got done reading about his latest speech against online poker. He pretends to care about morality but forgets he owns casinos. One of which has been fined for 26 cases (http://t.co/ugzXCN5KET) of allowing underage kids to drink and gamble.

http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/admin/albums/article-images/591645-sheldon-adelson.jpg

I haven't seen this on TV myself but they're supposed to be running this ad now. They didn't have money to advertise much in 2012 so that should help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-eBCRu_BYnw

jct74
10-04-2014, 07:49 PM
Here's some polling in Florida so far. The thing to keep in mind is that 60% support is required for it to pass, so this might be tough with all the money Adelson is pouring in.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Date
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
9/4-9/7
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
1/16-1/21




Here is the first Yes on 2 ad that will be airing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh_sDh2vbW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh_sDh2vbW4

Brett85
10-04-2014, 08:17 PM
The marijuana initiatives across the country are in danger of failing, because millions of dollars have been spent in all these states to scare people that marijuana/medical marijuana is going to lead to all kinds of terrible things. These initiatives do well in the polls at first, until the propaganda campaign kicks in and people are bombarded with all kinds of false information.

jct74
10-05-2014, 08:58 AM
Looking really good for legalization in Washington D.C., the nation's capitol. This could send some shockwaves!



Poll: D.C. voters poised to legalize pot, elevating national debate over marijuana

By Aaron C. Davis and Peyton M. Craighill
September 18, 2014

Voters in the District of Columbia are poised to follow Colorado and Washington state into a closely watched experiment to legalize marijuana, according to a new NBC4/Washington Post/Marist poll.

By an almost 2-to-1 margin, likely voters in the city’s Nov. 4 election say they support Initiative 71, a ballot measure that would legalize possession, home cultivation and the sale of paraphernalia to smoke marijuana in the nation’s capital.

The results show an electorate unshaken — even emboldened — nine months after legal marijuana sales began in Colorado and six months after D.C. lawmakers stripped away jail time for possession, making it just a $25 offense.

Although the District has so far felt little fallout from those moves, full legalization on the streets surrounding the White House would thrust the District into an untenable conflict with federal drug laws, potentially hastening the arrival of a larger national debate. It would also complicate it.

Legalization in the District is fused with the weighty issues of civil rights and drug arrest rates among African Americans. In faraway Western states that have legalized marijuana, those issues have been largely secondary to civil liberties and drug safety.

A band of pro-marijuana activists supporting Initiative 71, in fact, have almost no money in their campaign account and may not run a single ad, but support seems increasingly hardened in part because of a major shift toward support among African Americans.

...

read more:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/poll-dc-voters-poised-to-legalize-pot-elevating-national-debate-over-marijuana/2014/09/18/08360f90-3dfe-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html




PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-legalized-marijuana-in-dc/2014/09/18/8956e4d8-3f60-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_graphic.html)Initiative 71
65
33
+32
9/14-9/16
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-marijuana-legalization-grows-in-the-district/2014/01/15/9ecbd380-7e06-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_graphic.html)marijuana legalization
63
34
+29
1/9-1/12

jct74
10-05-2014, 10:36 AM
not looking as good in Alaska, the support seems to be trending downward



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/08/begich-leads-challengers-in-re-election-bid.html)Measure 2
44
49
-5
7/31-8/3
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/05/alaskans-down-on-palin-as-presidential-candidate.html)Measure 2
48
45
+3
5/8-5/11
Dittman Research (http://www.housemajority.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2014-House-Majority-Survey-Presentation-PRINT-VERSION-FINAL.pdf)Measure 2
52
44
+8
3/4-3/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/02/alaska-supports-gay-marriage-for-first-time.html)marijuana legalization
55
39
+16
1/30-2/1

jct74
10-07-2014, 04:10 PM
Rick Steves kicks off Oregon tour promoting marijuana legalization

By Noelle Crombie
October 07, 2014 at 8:00 AM,

http://imgick.oregonlive.com/home/olive-media/width620/img/marijuana/photo/2014/10/07/16024340-mmmain.jpg


Rick Steves, the travel guru who was a key supporter of Washington's recreational marijuana law in 2012, arrives in Oregon Tuesday to kick off a 9-stop tour promoting the campaign to legalize pot.

Steves recently wrote a commentary on Measure 91, which would legalize marijuana for anyone 21 and older, calling the proposal a "smart law" designed to address the reality of marijuana use.

"Marijuana is a drug," wrote Steves, who sits on the board of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. "It's not good for you. It can be addictive. But marijuana is here to stay. No amount of wishing will bring us a utopian "drug-free society."

On his website, Steves explains that running his own business has given him freedom to address his personal views of marijuana and drug policy in general without fear of being fired.

"When it comes to America's prohibition on marijuana, I can consider lessons learned from my travels and say what I really believe when I'm back home," he writes.

...

read more:
http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2014/10/rick_steves_kicks_off_oregon_t.html

Natural Citizen
10-07-2014, 04:15 PM
I think Arizona has something on the Nov. 2016 Ballot too. Initiative statute...

I don't know that the language of the initiative itself has been scribbled up yet.


Other stuff from the Marijuana Policy Project... http://www.mpp.org/ or the "strategic plan for 2014"

Decriminalize marijuana in Delaware, Hawaii, Maryland, and the District of Columbia

Legalize medical marijuana in Maryland, Minnesota, New York, and West Virginia

Expand medical marijuana laws in Vermont and Illinois

Lay the groundwork for decriminalizing marijuana possession in Illinois by 2017

Pass a bill in Rhode Island that is similar to the legalization law in Colorado

Pass legalization bills in Delaware, Hawaii, Maryland, New Hampshire, and Vermont between 2015 and 2017

Lobby to pass a legalization bill in Texas in 2019

Get a statewide legalization measure on the 2014 Alaska ballot

Place legalization initiatives on the 2016 ballot in Arizona, California and Nevada

Pass three local ballot initiatives in Maine in November 2014

Assist allies with 2014 statewide measure in Oregon

Persuade a team of U.S. senators to introduce a states’ rights marijuana bill in the Senate and work to pass it through the Senate Judiciary Committee

Canvass all freshmen and swing votes on the Rohrabacher-Farr medical marijuana amendment


According to MPP's website, the group's mission is to "Increase public support for non-punitive, non-coercive marijuana policies", "Identify and activate supporters of non-punitive, non-coercive marijuana policies", "Change state laws to reduce or eliminate penalties for the medical and non-medical use of marijuana" and to "Gain influence in Congress."

They "envision a nation where marijuana is legally regulated similarly to alcohol, marijuana education is honest and realistic, and treatment for problem marijuana users is non-coercive and geared toward reducing harm."


As of May 2014, MPP has spent $28,000 on candidate contributions in the 2014 congressional campaign cycle...

Roger Goodman $5,000

Beto O'Rourke $5,000

David Brinkley for Congress (527) $2,500

House Majority PAC $2,500

Solidarity PAC (Leadership) $2,500

Steve Cohen $2,000

Jared Huffman $2,000

Mark Udall $2,000

Sal Pace $1,500

Linda Sanchez $1,500


Rob Kampia is the Executive Director of the MPP. They also have an advisory board made up of several high profile celebrities including, Adam Carolla, Bill Maher, Jack Black, Susan Sarandon, Jesse Ventura and Tommy Chong

ZENemy
10-07-2014, 04:31 PM
Here is how the MJ debate should go.

Was the prohibition of alcohol a wise, fruitful, economical, freedom perpetuating move? Did it stop people from drinking? Were the kids saved?

If yes then keep MJ illegal right?

If no, DECRIMINALIZE right away.

Working Poor
10-07-2014, 04:39 PM
wow, this scumbag is throwing in the big bucks

Maybe his daughter is married to one the heads of a cartel.

Jackie Moon
10-07-2014, 06:11 PM
I haven't seen this on TV myself but they're supposed to be running this ad now. They didn't have money to advertise much in 2012 so that should help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-eBCRu_BYnw

Even in limited TV watching I actually now have seen this ad a bunch of times the past few days. Haven't seen any "no" ads.

Hopefully it will help swing some of the 16% Undecideds.

Jackie Moon
10-11-2014, 06:01 PM
There's another new "yes" ad that started airing yesterday.

Looks like they've done a good job at making sure the ad targets the right people... the ones that don't personally like marijuana but recognize that the current system isn't working.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zotLBIxygkw

Here's an article that Rick Steves wrote after his visit. Pretty good spokesman to have on your side.


Travel as a Political Act: Tour of Oregon so far
By Rick Steves

Last night, I had the privilege of speaking to about 300 people in downtown Salem at the Grand Theater. Just a few blocks from the Oregon capitol building. I was introduced by Sammy Basu, a professor of politics at Willamette University. It was a thrilling talk. It is always exciting to share my perspective and the stories of my travels and how it relates to drug policy in the United States, but even more thrilling because of the questions that came from the audience at the end.

There was a former prosecutor in the audience who shared his personal experience with the imbalance of our justice system when it comes to even small crimes. When a poor kid and wealthy kid are arrested for marijuana the outcomes are vastly different. The wealthy kid has parents who can help him navigate the system, ensure that he dresses nicely for court appearances, pay for a lawyer, and help translate the complexities of the legal system. A poor kid may not even have a ride to court, let alone a lawyer to help them through the legal process.

Treating marijuana as a crime has failed and it’s failing our kids, it’s setting young people back early in their lives, leaving them behind for the rest of their lives. This is true in cities across Oregon just like Salem, and in my home state of Washington. More than 13,000 people were arrested or cited in Oregon last year for marijuana; the war on drugs isn’t working.

Inconsistent enforcement of a law erodes respect for law enforcement and for the legal process. Let’s stop wasting police resources and refocus their efforts on serious and violent crimes and vote YES on Measure 91. Marijuana use is a serious, expensive and persistent challenge in our society. And it’s time for a new approach. That’s why I co-sponsored the initiative that legalized the responsible adult use of marijuana in Washington state two years ago.

Now, with first hand knowledge of what’s happened in Colorado and Washington after they passed their laws taxing, regulating and legalizing the responsible adult use of marijuana, we can say it is going well. The Brookings Institute issued a study on how things are progressing. They reported that the fears regarding increased teen use, DUIs, and crime are not materializing and, on balance, taking the crime out of the equation is looking like a smart move.

There are so many reasons to end the prohibition on marijuana. Whether you want to improve the well-being of children, redirect money away from criminals and into tax revenue for the state or protect civil liberties, it’s clearly time for a better approach. Rather than being “hard on drugs” or “soft on drugs,” by passing Measure 91, Oregon can finally be smart about drugs. Please vote yes.

Our stop in Beaverton was a standing-room only affair. What an enjoyable way to spend a lunch hour. Check out this short video on my visit:
http://voteyeson91.com/notes-road-legalizing-marijuana-oregon/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N7RBZAYY3I8

jct74
10-15-2014, 04:08 PM
lots more ads coming out this week


Florida:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJKGlJQT0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJfG-rLwBSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5WX25ZDrg


Alaska:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEVRpeFGaU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ1h7mU0S5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPQmaP_Qt1c

jct74
10-15-2014, 04:08 PM
Oregon:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV3nSlcXr7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVmNCGdkVA

Jackie Moon
10-16-2014, 03:46 PM
New poll for Oregon, still ahead:

http://media.virbcdn.com/files/c5/f784b3216efbbed8-measure_91_poll.png
http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1413329564/101414_ElectionSurvey_csfrca.pdf

Looks like it's gonna be close, but having 46% say "Yes - certain" is a good sign.

Hopefully the ads will continue to increase the certain vote to 50%+ and give us a little cushion. Still haven't seen any "no" ads.


“What I would say is, it is in a favorable position to pass, but it's not a sure thing,” said Fox 12 political analyst Tim Hibbitts, who says the measure will depend on voter turnout. “Younger voters I think are going to be more supportive of that, but they also tend to be less likely to vote, particularly in non-presidential election years.”


“In most cases, undecided voters will, not always, but usually resolve doubts about a ballot measure by voting no,” Hibbitts said. “Because they know that's the safe vote, where if you vote yes on a ballot measure, it usually means change, which voters might not be certain about.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/26787836/survey-shows-hotly-contested-ballot-measures

jct74
10-23-2014, 08:50 AM
New poll for Oregon

Thanks I added it to the tables, and also one more from Survey USA that shows the lead now at +11. So seems to be looking pretty good for Oregon.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=9b06ee8f-0665-4c61-87b9-e3d8fa4cb91c)Measure 91
48
37
+11
10/16-10/19
DHM Research (http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1413329564/101414_ElectionSurvey_csfrca.pdf)Measure 91
52
41
+9
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a2828710-8eac-4663-973d-3912ca87f337)Measure 91
44
40
+4
9/22-9/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=005a915d-93f5-4dc8-b982-324b58e9eaa7)marijuana legalization
51
41
+10
6/5-6/9




Alaska is pretty much the opposite story, support seems to be steadily declining, not looking too good there.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Dittman Research (http://amandacoyne.com/politics/dittman-research-poll-counters/)Measure 2
43
53
-10
9/30-10/3
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/08/begich-leads-challengers-in-re-election-bid.html)Measure 2
44
49
-5
7/31-8/3
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/05/alaskans-down-on-palin-as-presidential-candidate.html)Measure 2
48
45
+3
5/8-5/11
Dittman Research (http://www.housemajority.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2014-House-Majority-Survey-Presentation-PRINT-VERSION-FINAL.pdf)Measure 2
52
44
+8
3/4-3/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/02/alaska-supports-gay-marriage-for-first-time.html)marijuana legalization
55
39
+16
1/30-2/1




Florida I also added some new polls and it is still really hard to predict how this one will turn out. The thing that makes it tricky is that 60% support is required to pass.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
+/-
Date
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3a70ad2-0549-4804-9c9e-a8a7aa3f9e25)Amendment 2
52
36
+16
10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling/)Amendment 2
55
39
+16
10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center (http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/10/15/fl_poll_marijuana.html)Amendment 2
48
44
+4
10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_October_ 13_L2GM.pdf)Amendment 2
52
39
+13
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
+21
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
+25
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
+28
9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
58
30
+28
8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
64
26
+38
8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
+31
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
+32
1/16-1/21




No new polls in Washington D.C., still looks real good to pass!



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-legalized-marijuana-in-dc/2014/09/18/8956e4d8-3f60-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_graphic.html)Initiative 71
65
33
+32
9/14-9/16
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/support-for-marijuana-legalization-grows-in-the-district/2014/01/15/9ecbd380-7e06-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_graphic.html)marijuana legalization
63
34
+29
1/9-1/12

jct74
10-23-2014, 10:12 AM
here's a breakdown from vox.com of the 4 major initiatives on the ballot this year:
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/20/6953771/weed-legalization-alaska-florida-oregon-washington-dc-vote


also one from time.com and an earlier summary from vox.com that says a medical marijuana initiative will also be on the ballot in Guam:
http://time.com/3433257/marijuana-pot-legalization-2014/
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/23/5929817/medical-marijuana-legalization-2014

jct74
10-23-2014, 10:17 AM
ballotpedia entries for all 4 initiatives:
http://ballotpedia.org/Alaska_Marijuana_Legalization,_Ballot_Measure_2_(2 014)
http://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Legalized_Marijuana_Initiative,_Measure_91_ (2014)
http://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Right_to_Medical_Marijuana_Initiative,_Ame ndment_2_(2014)
http://ballotpedia.org/Washington_D.C._Marijuana_Legalization,_Initiative _71_(November_2014)

Wooden Indian
10-23-2014, 10:29 AM
I've been torn on if I would vote on 2 or not (Florida) because it doesn't go anywhere close to far enough. Then, I remember there are a shit ton of suffering people out there that this would help, and I have to climb down from my moral high-horse and vote Yes. At least it's a small step in the right direction.

Jackie Moon
10-23-2014, 08:18 PM
Thanks I added it to the tables, and also one more from Survey USA that shows the lead now at +11. So seems to be looking pretty good for Oregon.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=9b06ee8f-0665-4c61-87b9-e3d8fa4cb91c)Measure 91
48
37
+11
10/16-10/19
DHM Research (http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1413329564/101414_ElectionSurvey_csfrca.pdf)Measure 91
52
41
+9
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a2828710-8eac-4663-973d-3912ca87f337)Measure 91
44
40
+4
9/22-9/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=005a915d-93f5-4dc8-b982-324b58e9eaa7)marijuana legalization
51
41
+10
6/5-6/9



Looks like the money and ads are having a positive effect. And they just got another $800k donation a few days ago...


The campaign for Oregon's marijuana legalization measure this weekend reported receiving another $800,000 from two out-of-state groups tied to wealthy donors.


The Yes on 91 campaign has reported spending more than $1.1 million on TV and radio advertising so far, part of what the campaign has said is an ad buy of more than $2 million for the fall. Opponents of the measure have just one major donor -- the Oregon State Sheriff's Association, which has given $145,000 -- and are not airing ads on TV.
www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_marijuana_measure_rakes.html



I've been torn on if I would vote on 2 or not (Florida) because it doesn't go anywhere close to far enough. Then, I remember there are a shit ton of suffering people out there that this would help, and I have to climb down from my moral high-horse and vote Yes. At least it's a small step in the right direction.

Yeah, I've felt the same way. I'm not even a fan of the "tax it and regulate it" stuff... just repeal the laws that make it illegal.

But after thinking about it I figured that anything that gets closer to that goal is a step worth taking.

The Florida one is really limited... but once that passes and people realize that the state doesn't fall apart you'll be able to take the next step.

Jackie Moon
10-28-2014, 05:51 PM
New Oregon poll... this one's not great.

Not sure whether this poll is an outlier to the previous ones that had us +10%, or if it means the undecideds are finally going towards "no".

Half of the people polled had already voted and the other half were "certain" to vote.

But, the good news is that it's still close and within the poll's 5% margin of error.


The push to legalize recreational marijuana in Oregon appears to be too close to call. The poll found that 46 percent of voters are against legalizing pot, compared to 44 percent who support it. Seven percent remain undecided.

Opinions on the measure vary greatly by age. The measure has support from 56 percent of voters under age 35, but only 30 percent support from voters older than 65.

Supporters of marijuana legalization have raised far more money than their opponents, including landing nearly $1.5 million from a group called Drug Policy Action.

The "no" campaign has only raised a fraction of that money, with the majority coming from the Oregon State Sheriff's Association.

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/28/kgworegonian-poll-pot-gmo-races-extremely-close/18063009/

http://media.virbcdn.com/files/1c/d661dbb47cc8751a-measure_91_poll_Oct28.png

jct74
10-31-2014, 07:45 PM
New Oregon poll... this one's not great.

Not sure whether this poll is an outlier to the previous ones that had us +10%, or if it means the undecideds are finally going towards "no".

yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. SurveyUSA just did a poll a few days earlier and still found an 11 point lead.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/10/marijuana_legalization_poll_or.html)Measure 91
44
46
-2
10/26-10/27
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=75ff4fa8-60ee-470b-af50-0934993b283d)Measure 91
52
41
+11
10/23-10/27
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=9b06ee8f-0665-4c61-87b9-e3d8fa4cb91c)Measure 91
48
37
+11
10/16-10/19
DHM Research (http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1413329564/101414_ElectionSurvey_csfrca.pdf)Measure 91
52
41
+9
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a2828710-8eac-4663-973d-3912ca87f337)Measure 91
44
40
+4
9/22-9/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=005a915d-93f5-4dc8-b982-324b58e9eaa7)marijuana legalization
51
41
+10
6/5-6/9




BTW - If anyone is interested in looking back at the marijuana initiatives from 2012, how they polled leading up to election day and what the final results were, here is the thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?386593-Marijuana-reform-initiatives-on-the-ballot-in-2012-Official-Results-Thread


Oregon is the only state that was also on the ballot in 2012, legalization was on the ballot then as it is now. The initiative lost by 6.4% as pretty much predicted by the polls.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
The Oregonian / Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/obama_leads_in_oregon_thanks_t.html)Measure 80
42
49
-7
10/25 - 10/28
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=242a16b4-1a4c-47eb-a09e-52040667cc42)Measure 80
36
43
-7
10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24



RESULT: FAILED

100% reporting (http://www.oregonvotes.gov/doc/history/nov62012/G12_Abstract.pdf)


YES
810,538
46.8%
NO
923,071
53.2%

jct74
11-01-2014, 07:25 AM
Jeff Merkley seems to be one of the better senators on the Democrat side.



U.S. senator supports pot legalization in Oregon

BY COURTNEY SHERWOOD
PORTLAND Ore. Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:01pm EDT

(Reuters) - A Democratic U.S. Senator from Oregon supports legalizing the recreational use of marijuana and will vote “yes” to a state initiative next week that would let adults consume pot for fun, his office said on Monday.

But a staffer for Senator Jeff Merkley said her boss had stopped short of officially endorsing an Oregon ballot initiative that would legalize, regulate and tax non-medical marijuana and permit its use by adults over age 21.

"The senator has not endorsed the ballot measure, but he has said he will vote for it," said Courtney Warner Crowell, Merkley's deputy communications director.

The support makes Merkley the first sitting senator to publicly support legal recreational pot, according to a round-up of U.S. politicians' views on the topic updated on Monday by Huffington Post.

...

read more:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-usa-marijuana-oregon-idUSKBN0IG28G20141027

jct74
11-01-2014, 09:42 AM
some new ads airing in Oregon, these are all pretty good



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kyOzHyA8Wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO3k-fR-owA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8XLWZd6xQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd332aMtgSg

jct74
11-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Polling is all over the place in Florida. Recent polls from Gravis Marketing and UF Graham Center show the Amendment falling short of the required 60%, but a poll from Anzalone Liszt Grove Research shows the amendment passing at 62-35. According to this source (http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2014/10/medical_marijuana_is_not_done_according_to_latest_ poll.php) Nate Silver considers Anzalone Liszt Grove Research one of the most reliable pollsters and their poll used the actual ballot language instead of a summary, so that is somewhat encouraging.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
+/-
Date
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-florida-governors-race-tied/2204451)Amendment 2
46
43
+3
10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/unitedforcare/pages/1700/attachments/original/1414524323/SUMMARY_--_FL_MMJ_STATEWIDE_OCT_27_2014.pdf?1414524323)Amend ment 2
62
35
+27
10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling-2/)Amendment 2
50
42
+8
10/22-10/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3a70ad2-0549-4804-9c9e-a8a7aa3f9e25)Amendment 2
52
36
+16
10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling/)Amendment 2
55
39
+16
10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center (http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/10/15/fl_poll_marijuana.html)Amendment 2
48
44
+4
10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_October_ 13_L2GM.pdf)Amendment 2
52
39
+13
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
+21
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
+25
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
+28
9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-many-voters-still-unsure-about-medical-marijuana-amendment/2195990)Amendment 2
57
24
+33
8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
64
26
+38
8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
+31
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
+32
1/16-1/21


A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.

jct74
11-01-2014, 01:05 PM
here is some of the boogity-boogity evil weed propaganda hitting the airwaves in Florida (thanks to Sheldon Adelson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/28/casino-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-behind-85-percent-of-floridas-anti-pot-campaign/))



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-L2WSkYf6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4JqIO6ktY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEDBAyJi1jw

jct74
11-02-2014, 08:55 AM
marijuana reform will be on the local ballots in 5 states next week: California, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, and New Mexico. here is a summary:

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2014/oct/29/marijuana_reform_local_ballots_f

seapilot
11-02-2014, 03:04 PM
[QUOTE=jct74;5688257]here is some of the boogity-boogity evil weed propaganda hitting the airwaves in Florida (thanks to Sheldon Adelson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/28/casino-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-behind-85-percent-of-floridas-anti-pot-campaign/))

Wonder why they do not use the states that have already passed MM rules as examples. They are in complete chaos!!!

Jackie Moon
11-03-2014, 04:04 AM
yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. SurveyUSA just did a poll a few days earlier and still found an 11 point lead.

Yeah, it's weird that they would be so far apart. Since that's the only poll that has us losing I'm hoping it was the outlier and the others are right.

This article says the polls used different wording when asking the question... and that the SurveyUSA poll was automated, while the one with us losing was done by a live questioner.

Seems like they're trying to say the KGW poll was more accurate... but it still had a 5% margin of error so it's not far from being flipped the other way and fitting in with the overall picture.


This new survey particularly differs in one important respect with a poll released earlier this week by The Oregonian and KGW: on the marijuana initiative, Measure 91.

The Oregonian/KGW poll found the measure virtually tied, with support at 44 percent and opposition at 46 percent -- which is well within the poll's margin of error of 5 percentage points.

In contrast, the poll taken for KATU found that 52 percent supported the marijuana measure and 41 percent were opposed. The two polls had some important differences.

The SurveyUSA poll was conducted using a recorded voice. Respondents answer by pushing buttons on their phone. The Oregonian/KGW poll was conducted by live questioners, a method that many survey experts think is more accurate.

In addition, the surveys used different question wording, with the Oregonian/KGW poll reciting the ballot title while SurveyUSA asked respondents if they supported a measure to legalize marijuana for adults 21 and older.

The SurveyUSA poll also had a higher percentage of younger voters included in the poll -- and it also showed strong support among voters aged 50-64 while the Oregonian/KGW poll showed that age group slightly opposed.

http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/10/surveyusa_poll_marijuana_john.html


BTW - If anyone is interested in looking back at the marijuana initiatives from 2012, how they polled leading up to election day and what the final results were, here is the thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?386593-Marijuana-reform-initiatives-on-the-ballot-in-2012-Official-Results-Thread


Oregon is the only state that was also on the ballot in 2012, legalization was on the ballot then as it is now. The initiative lost by 6.4% as pretty much predicted by the polls.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
The Oregonian / Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/obama_leads_in_oregon_thanks_t.html)Measure 80
42
49
-7
10/25 - 10/28
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=242a16b4-1a4c-47eb-a09e-52040667cc42)Measure 80
36
43
-7
10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24



RESULT: FAILED

100% reporting (http://www.oregonvotes.gov/doc/history/nov62012/G12_Abstract.pdf)


YES
810,538
46.8%
NO
923,071
53.2%


Nice. That makes me feel slightly more confident. Last time the undecideds split 50/50... and this time the "no" side needs all the late undecideds to go their way.

Still, I expect it will be close and honestly wouldn't be surprised either way. Gonna be an interesting night.

jct74
11-04-2014, 07:35 AM
bump.

results will be posted in this thread.

jct74
11-04-2014, 09:13 AM
Two new polls in Florida over the weekend show the initiative is going to have a hard time passing, not looking too good there but it will probably be close.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
+/-
Date
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_November _02_DU7W.pdf)Amendment 2
53
43
+10
11/2
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/11/fl-mi-il-gov-races-all-too-close-to-call.html)Amendment 2
53
41
+12
11/1-11/2
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-florida-governors-race-tied/2204451)Amendment 2
46
43
+3
10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/unitedforcare/pages/1700/attachments/original/1414524323/SUMMARY_--_FL_MMJ_STATEWIDE_OCT_27_2014.pdf?1414524323)Amend ment 2
62
35
+27
10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling-2/)Amendment 2
50
42
+8
10/22-10/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3a70ad2-0549-4804-9c9e-a8a7aa3f9e25)Amendment 2
52
36
+16
10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling/)Amendment 2
55
39
+16
10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center (http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/10/15/fl_poll_marijuana.html)Amendment 2
48
44
+4
10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_October_ 13_L2GM.pdf)Amendment 2
52
39
+13
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
+21
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
+25
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
+28
9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-many-voters-still-unsure-about-medical-marijuana-amendment/2195990)Amendment 2
57
24
+33
8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
64
26
+38
8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
+31
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
+32
1/16-1/21


Note: A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.

coastie
11-04-2014, 01:54 PM
Two new polls in Florida over the weekend show the initiative is going to have a hard time passing, not looking too good there but it will probably be close.



PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
+/-
Date
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_November _02_DU7W.pdf)Amendment 2
53
43
+10
11/2
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/11/fl-mi-il-gov-races-all-too-close-to-call.html)Amendment 2
53
41
+12
11/1-11/2
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-florida-governors-race-tied/2204451)Amendment 2
46
43
+3
10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/unitedforcare/pages/1700/attachments/original/1414524323/SUMMARY_--_FL_MMJ_STATEWIDE_OCT_27_2014.pdf?1414524323)Amend ment 2
62
35
+27
10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling-2/)Amendment 2
50
42
+8
10/22-10/24
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3a70ad2-0549-4804-9c9e-a8a7aa3f9e25)Amendment 2
52
36
+16
10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-florida-polling/)Amendment 2
55
39
+16
10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center (http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/10/15/fl_poll_marijuana.html)Amendment 2
48
44
+4
10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls (http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2014_FloridaPolitics_StateGEN_October_ 13_L2GM.pdf)Amendment 2
52
39
+13
10/8-10/11
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06d61e55-3651-4d70-933a-ac60daba0775)Amendment 2
53
32
+21
9/19-9/22
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8e77e837-677c-4bff-a211-aface6fa4216)Amendment 2
56
31
+25
9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/crist-scott-continue-to-be-closely-matched.html)Amendment 2
61
33
+28
9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/times-poll-many-voters-still-unsure-about-medical-marijuana-amendment/2195990)Amendment 2
57
24
+33
8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/scott-crist-tied-hillary-clinton-ahead-marijuana-past-60/)Amendment 2
64
26
+38
8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Amendment 2
66
25
+31
6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/01/crist-holds-onto-narrow-lead-over-scott.html)medical marijuana
65
23
+32
1/16-1/21


Note: A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.

I personally don't know of a single person here voting against it. Even fence sitters I know are now voting for it, because of the ridiculousness of the NO on 2 ads - they're straight reefer madness, and blatantly lie in them.

Not that I have much faith in the voting system anyway, but the wife and I are leaving right now to go vote, YES of course. Also throwing ours to Adrian Wylie...now if that guy doesn't get significant numbers here, the game is rigged for sure.

jct74
11-04-2014, 06:50 PM
Florida medical marijuana (60% needed to pass)

Yes 56.9%
No 43.1%

10% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFlz_zTF_To

Jackie Moon
11-04-2014, 08:12 PM
Florida medical marijuana (60% needed to pass)

Yes 56.9%
No 43.1%

10% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFlz_zTF_To

Yes 57.0% - 2,912,314
No 43.0% - 2,194,761

70.6% Reporting

Wow, it's close.

I have no idea about the makeup of Florida... but from looking at the map it looks like some of the big counties that lean heavier to "yes" are still less than 20% reporting - so that's a good sign.

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/florida/

Ranger29860
11-04-2014, 08:56 PM
Yes 57.0% - 2,912,314
No 43.0% - 2,194,761

70.6% Reporting

Wow, it's close.

I have no idea about the makeup of Florida... but from looking at the map it looks like some of the big counties that lean heavier to "yes" are still less than 20% reporting - so that's a good sign.

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/florida/


Well way to go Florida :(. Sheldon Adelson needs to stay the hell out of our business. Ridiculous that so much money came from out of state to fund the no on amendment 2 campaign. The adds were such blatant lies.

jct74
11-04-2014, 09:00 PM
D.C. weed legalization - looking good!

For 68.8%
Against 31.2%

6.3% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFmSZDTF_Tp

Wooden Indian
11-04-2014, 09:17 PM
Well, thanks Florida. You prove yet again that you are a grab-bag mix of all the worst from the north and the south. Hard to accomplish such a feat.

jct74
11-04-2014, 10:21 PM
Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 61.0%
No 39.0%

17.4% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFmlcTTF_Tq

jct74
11-04-2014, 10:24 PM
Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 57.2%
No 42.8%

28.1% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFmmXTTF_Tr

Jackie Moon
11-04-2014, 10:31 PM
Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 57.2%
No 42.8%

28.1% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/#.VFmmXTTF_Tr


The Oregonian is projecting a win. Not gonna celebrate yet... but its looking like it's a lock.


Updated: 8:26 pm, Nov 4
52.4% of est. votes counted

Yes 425,867 55.7%

No 339,310 44.3%

http://gov.oregonlive.com/election/

Mani
11-04-2014, 10:34 PM
Well, thanks Florida. You prove yet again that you are a grab-bag mix of all the worst from the north and the south. Hard to accomplish such a feat.


Florida is a shit hole. People really don't care about freedom. Stupid fucks. I lived there for 10+ years. Full of fucking idiots. The freedom lovers are always a minority vote. :mad:

mad cow
11-04-2014, 10:47 PM
The Oregonian is projecting a win. Not gonna celebrate yet... but its looking like it's a lock.


Updated: 8:26 pm, Nov 4
52.4% of est. votes counted

Yes 425,867 55.7%

No 339,310 44.3%

http://gov.oregonlive.com/election/

Excellent!

Brett85
11-04-2014, 10:49 PM
The medical marijuana initiative in Florida did better than the polls were saying it would do.

Mani
11-04-2014, 10:53 PM
here is some of the boogity-boogity evil weed propaganda hitting the airwaves in Florida (thanks to Sheldon Adelson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/28/casino-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-behind-85-percent-of-floridas-anti-pot-campaign/))



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4JqIO6ktY




Why is there a cop talking shit against Medical MJ??? Don't cops always say, "Hey I don't make the laws, I just enforce them. I'm just doing my job. If you don't like the law, change it!"


So if that's their mantra, WTF is this guy doing scaring the fuck out of people from changing the law???


Piece of shit FLORIDA.

Jackie Moon
11-04-2014, 11:05 PM
Oregon
Updated: 8:57 pm, Nov 4
65.2% of est. votes counted

Yes 510,674 53.7%

No 440,584 46.3%

Ok, it's still close overall - but most of the votes left to count are here in Multnomah County where Portland is... and as expected "Yes" is dominating:


Multnomah County
Recreational marijuana

47.5% Reporting

Yes 69.0% 101,138

No 31.0% 45,337

COpatriot
11-04-2014, 11:21 PM
Good for Oregon. It's only a matter of time. State by state it's coming.

Mani
11-04-2014, 11:44 PM
Good for Oregon. It's only a matter of time. State by state it's coming.



This is awesome. It especially makes me laugh because there was an article not too long ago about Cops in Oregon pulling over any WA plates to search them for MJ. Instead of SPEED traps, they were basically MJ traps. Bastards.


But now that revenue stream is closing, and they won't be able to pull over random drivers with WA plates anymore for probably cause of drugs.


BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Fail. Lost revenue for those fuckers.



War on Drugs fail.

dannno
11-04-2014, 11:59 PM
California should start a Marijuana Legalization Equal Tax Act where regular old sales tax applies and there are no other restrictions besides 18 age limit. It would be realistic and supportable.

It's already very available and largely unenforced.

The only thing that sucks is that Federal 280E anti-tax loop thing we all just learned about...nullify?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?462496-Pot-Businesses-in-Colorado-and-Washington-Paying-80-90-IRS-Taxes&highlight=280E

Mani
11-05-2014, 12:26 AM
Oregon has legalized.


DC looks to be winning...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/04/washington-dc-legal-marijuana_n_5947520.html

In yet another blow to the United States' decades-long war on drugs, the nation's capital has legalized recreational marijuana, NPR and USA Today reported Tuesday night.

Washington, D.C., voters on Tuesday approved Initiative 71, which legalizes adult marijuana use, possession of up to two ounces and home cultivation of up to six marijuana plants for personal use. With 29 percent of votes in, 68 percent of District residents supported the measure, and 31 percent were opposed.


(snip)

Now that voters have approved the measure, the bill moves to Congress for a mandatory review period by lawmakers in January. Congress has 60 days to review all new laws in the District, and if there is no interference the measure could go into effect in early 2015. However, Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) has vowed to put a stop to the progression of the bill in Congress.

(what's your problem andy???)
(rest at the link)


Alaska is early but showing good results:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1586352/alaska-marijuana-legalization-measure-2-goes-recreational-in-the-2014-election-results/

[Update: Only 23 percent of precincts in Alaska have checked in, but so far 54 percent of voters have voted in favor of passing Measure 2.]

tangent4ronpaul
11-05-2014, 12:31 AM
Sheldon Adelson Donates Another $1.5 Million to Anti-Medical Marijuana Group

By Chris Joseph
Fri., Oct. 3 2014 at 1:05 PM

With a net worth of $37 billion, casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, has donated another $1.5 million to the No On 2 campaign (or, Drug Free Florida) -- the biggest medical marijuana opposition in the state.

He had helped kick off the campaign when he donated $2.5 million to get things started back in June.

The 80-year-old Adelson, who has been a big-time contributor to conservative campaigns throughout his life, is chairman and chief executive officer of the Las Vegas Sands Corp., which runs the Venetian Resort Hotel Casino and the Sands Expo and Convention Center in Las Vegas.

He has also funded drug addiction clinics in Nevada and Israel and believes pot to be a gateway drug.

The big donation comes right after No On 2's recent ad attacking medical marijuana legalization by claiming that Amendment 2 has a loop hole in it's care giver provision that would allow anyone -- including felons and drug dealers -- to become caregivers:

COpatriot
11-05-2014, 12:34 AM
Early lead for "yes" in Alaska.

tangent4ronpaul
11-05-2014, 12:36 AM
Oregon has legalized.


DC looks to be winning...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/04/washington-dc-legal-marijuana_n_5947520.html

In yet another blow to the United States' decades-long war on drugs, the nation's capital has legalized recreational marijuana, NPR and USA Today reported Tuesday night.

Washington, D.C., voters on Tuesday approved Initiative 71, which legalizes adult marijuana use, possession of up to two ounces and home cultivation of up to six marijuana plants for personal use. With 29 percent of votes in, 68 percent of District residents supported the measure, and 31 percent were opposed.


(snip)

Now that voters have approved the measure, the bill moves to Congress for a mandatory review period by lawmakers in January. Congress has 60 days to review all new laws in the District, and if there is no interference the measure could go into effect in early 2015. However, Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) has vowed to put a stop to the progression of the bill in Congress.

(what's your problem andy???)
(rest at the link)


Alaska is early but showing good results:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1586352/alaska-marijuana-legalization-measure-2-goes-recreational-in-the-2014-election-results/

[Update: Only 23 percent of precincts in Alaska have checked in, but so far 54 percent of voters have voted in favor of passing Measure 2.]

Andy Harris re-elected in landslide
http://www.delmarvanow.com/story/news/local/maryland/2014/11/04/harris-tilghman-election/18504763/

FUCK!

Mani
11-05-2014, 12:58 AM
Why do conservatives hate freedom so much?

Every R is out there saying, "Boogedity Boogedity Marijuana!!!" Make it all illegal!!!!!!!!!



And why do liberals that want freedom so badly want the state to control all their freedoms for them?

COpatriot
11-05-2014, 01:49 AM
Why do conservatives hate freedom so much?

Every R is out there saying, "Boogedity Boogedity Marijuana!!!" Make it all illegal!!!!!!!!!



And why do liberals that want freedom so badly want the state to control all their freedoms for them?

Because they both believe in freedom right up until it involves something/someone they don't like.

Jackie Moon
11-05-2014, 02:21 AM
Measure 91
Marijuana legalization

Updated: 12:14 am, Nov 5
75.2% of est. votes counted

Yes 595,750 54.3%
No 502,202 45.7%



OK, feel safe now that I can celebrate and not jinx it.

http://oi48.tinypic.com/3v5vk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KeQFGUe.gif

http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1LzYyL2FuY2hvcm1hbi42NjJkYS5naWYKcA l0aHVtYgk4NTB4ODUwPgplCWpwZw/e36d14bd/1c0/anchorman.jpg

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dance_party.gif

Pretty sure this is the first local candidate/measure that actually went the way I wanted.

I don't even personally smoke so this won't directly affect me, but it's obviously a great win for personal liberty and against the war on drugs.

Since I don't smoke I'm gonna drink this tasty celebratory brew I just picked up and toast to Sheldon Adelson.

http://media.virbcdn.com/files/2c/d5e3df1eea586670-20141104_234612.jpg

Sucks that Florida needed 60% to pass... but it's clear that it will happen soon.

Now... come on Alaska!

Recreational marijuana
73.7% Reporting

Yes 52.1% 99,860
No 47.9% 91,790

jct74
11-05-2014, 12:38 PM
summary of results last night:



Alaska Measure 2 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
52.1%
116,803
NO
47.9%
107,179



--


Oregon Measure 91 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

93.8% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
55.3%
757,019
NO
44.7%
611,557



--


Washington D.C. Initiative 71 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
69.4%
96,113
NO
30.6%
42,280



--


Florida Question 2 (medical marijuana)

Result: FAILED

100% reporting (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/ballot-measures/)


YES
57.6%
3,363,522
NO
42.4%
2,476,108


A 60% level of support was required to pass.

surf
11-05-2014, 12:59 PM
I still think Cascadia should secede (even with the uber-socialistic mindset, we'd probably do ok due to the peace preference). we'll take a bit of northern California (Lk. Shasta) and allow AK to join (Hawaii as well). the biggest question is whether or not we'll qualify for the 2018 World Cup....

good on Oregon, the 2015 MLS Cannabis Cup (DC, Colorado, Portland, Seattle) will be exciting.

jct74
11-06-2014, 07:15 AM
I would have been very happy with just Oregon and Washington D.C. legalizing marijuana based on the polls leading up to election day but to have Alaska come out on top was a big surprise and totally fucking awesome. Statewide marijuana legalization initiatives are now 5 for 6 in the last 2 elections and the only one that failed was Oregon in 2012 which then passed in 2014 by a double digit margin. Even in Florida where medical marijuana lost you can't really say the voters rejected it when 57% of the people voted for it. 2016 is going to be very exciting as these initiatives typically do better in presidential election years, it could be a tidal wave year for marijuana reform at the ballot box.

CaptUSA
11-06-2014, 08:09 AM
Interesting that all the late polls underestimated, in some cases dramatically, the level of support for the initiatives. It's almost as if there were pressures on the pollsters to try to drive public perception.

With many more of these initiatives on the ballots in 2016, the GOP had better choose a candidate that is with the majority on this. These things do drive turnout. Down ballot initiatives will hurt them up ballot if they don't have Rand Paul on the ticket. Rand is the only one talking about returning rights to non-violent offenders and allowing states to decide how to handle their legalization efforts.

Jackie Moon
11-06-2014, 08:58 PM
Interesting that all the late polls underestimated, in some cases dramatically, the level of support for the initiatives. It's almost as if there were pressures on the pollsters to try to drive public perception.

With many more of these initiatives on the ballots in 2016, the GOP had better choose a candidate that is with the majority on this. These things do drive turnout. Down ballot initiatives will hurt them up ballot if they don't have Rand Paul on the ticket. Rand is the only one talking about returning rights to non-violent offenders and allowing states to decide how to handle their legalization efforts.

Yeah, I thought it was interesting that both Republicans and marijuana had a big night. It's especially big that it passed in Alaska since it's a Republican state.

The GOP has to pay attention to that and have a 2016 candidate that at least takes a position of allowing states to decide on their own.

Plus, because more states will have marijuana on the ballot in 2016 it should give a bump to the youth turnout.

Rand is the only Republican candidate that can get them to also vote for him instead of Hillary. They're not gonna turn out to vote for legal marijuana and then also vote for Huckabee.

Just saw this article with some details about how it will work in Oregon now:


Question: When can I start smoking?

Answer: Oregonians and visitors with an interest in lighting up a joint will have to wait until at least July 1, 2015, when the law takes effect.

Q. How much can I own?

A. At that time any person 21 or older, whether they're a resident of Oregon or not, can possess up to 1 ounce of pot — about 28 joints — on their person, up to 8 ounces in their home and up to four plants.

The law also allows a person to posses up to 1 pound of solid edibles like cookies, 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquid like soda or lotion and 1 ounce of marijuana extract.

Q. Can I buy marijuana in July?

A. Don't grab your wallet just yet. Recreational sales won't likely start until at least January 2016.

That's because Measure 91 gives the Oregon Liquor Control Commission until Jan. 1, 2016, to finalize the rules governing production, processing and selling of marijuana.

People looking for legal marijuana from July to January will have to grow their own or be given some from a friend. Sales of both plants and products won't be legal until the commission issues licenses to retailers.

And, in the category of things I never would've believed I'd see... the state just set up their official info page at:

Marijuana.Oregon.gov (http://www.marijuana.oregon.gov)

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/wdnspoon/doubletake.gif