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Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 08:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwEV3IusKW4

cien750hp
12-02-2007, 08:59 PM
wait is this real?
legit video.. actually msnbc not a joke?

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:00 PM
wait is this real?
legit video.. actually msnbc not a joke?

Yea, it is. Why am I the first to post this?

me3
12-02-2007, 09:02 PM
You're not, you just didn't bother to do a search before posting.

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:05 PM
You're not, you just didn't bother to do a search before posting.

Excuse me, I made a mistake.

You would figure that I would had seen a post of this importance. I wonder if it just slid off the front page, with not a notice or reply?

I would figure this would be big shit, kinda like your attitude.

Lexx78
12-02-2007, 09:05 PM
wow :eek:

EvilEngineer
12-02-2007, 09:06 PM
The MSM is ready to switch their support to huckabee, hence the shift to attacking Rudy.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
12-02-2007, 09:07 PM
it's about time MSM starts reporting on this stuff. Jeez!

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:09 PM
The MSM is ready to switch their support to huckabee, hence the shift to attacking Rudy.


This seems to be more than the typical "attack".

This story could lead to more info that could really chapp some asses.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
12-02-2007, 09:09 PM
Excuse me, I made a mistake.

You would figure that I would had seen a post of this importance. I wonder if it just slid off the front page, with not a notice or reply?

I would figure this would be big shit, kinda like your attitude.

I'm with him me3. There are better ways to handle new comers.

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:12 PM
I'm with him me3. There are better ways to handle new comers.

Ahh, forget about it.

I just want to see what you people make of this. This is not from Alex Jones, you know what I mean?

Bladestunner316
12-02-2007, 09:13 PM
Excellent video!!!

mopar.bo
12-02-2007, 09:13 PM
You can't see it, but I'm dancin' a jig right now.

paulitics
12-02-2007, 09:14 PM
This news needs to spread like a virus on all the Republican forums. Of course, they will say it is fabricated because it broke on Olbermann.

Zydeco
12-02-2007, 09:15 PM
You're not, you just didn't bother to do a search before posting.

me3, relax.

EvilEngineer
12-02-2007, 09:15 PM
This seems to be more than the typical "attack".

This story could lead to more info that could really chapp some asses.

This is one of the stories I had predicted they would sit on until they were ready to take Rudy down. This and other attack stories were scheduled to run after he got the Nomination, and throw the election to Hillary. This is only the tip of the iceberg for the Attack Rudy ads. They need to shift the national support from Rudy to Huckabee in a hurry. Though from actual straw poll numbers, I don't think it really matters, has Rudy even won one?

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:16 PM
This news needs to spread like a virus on all the Republican forums. Of course, they will say it is fabricated because it broke on Olbermann.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0748,barrett,78478,6.html

by Wes Duvall

It is out of New York.

Mark Rushmore
12-02-2007, 09:16 PM
Some bad timing on this story 'breaking'. If Rudy really falls out of it, that gives us a higher bar to victory as the other big names are going to eat up his support. Wish it would have come out after a few primaries went down to the wire with an even split of support for the big names, ah well.

10thAmendmentMan
12-02-2007, 09:17 PM
This isn't that much help for us, since Rudy isn't polling well in the early states anyhow. It'd be nice if we grab all of the Rudy-refugees, but they may just concentrate under Romney. The vote needs to be split-up for us to have the greatest effect.

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Some bad timing on this story 'breaking'. If Rudy really falls out of it, that gives us a higher bar to victory as the other big names are going to eat up his support. Wish it would have come out after a few primaries went down to the wire with an even split of support for the big names, ah well.

If this is as far as the story goes, it may help us by bringing him closer to the field.

I can see how it could hurt us if all his votes go to one candidate.

I think we may begin to see "vote funneling" in a big way if this story has legs.

mopar.bo
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
This isn't that much help for us, since Rudy isn't polling well in the early states anyhow. It'd be nice if we grab all of the Rudy-refugees, but they may just concentrate under Romney. The vote needs to be split-up for us to have the greatest effect.

I don't know if I want to share a boat with those clowns. Stupidity is an epidemic and they may infect us. Eeeeeeewwwww...Giuli-itis!

andrewgreve
12-02-2007, 09:21 PM
You guys are crazy conspiracy theorists.

Mark Rushmore
12-02-2007, 09:21 PM
If this is as far as the story goes, it may help us by bringing him closer to the field.

I can see how it could hurt us if all his votes go to one candidate.

Here is hoping he's got a 13% or so baseline of support that isn't gonna shake for nothing, God knows there's enough out there they could have used as an opportunity to drop him - there might be some sort of actual 'supporter' base that we can lock up in a dead vote for the early primaries.

nbhadja
12-02-2007, 09:25 PM
This was posted on this board a few days ago, for some reason not many people posted on it.

Mark
12-02-2007, 09:25 PM
Excuse me, I made a mistake.

You would figure that I would had seen a post of this importance. I wonder if it just slid off the front page, with not a notice or reply?

I would figure this would be big shit, kinda like your attitude.

In "general", please don't let certain posters upset you Real.

There are certain "infiltrators" here that aren't real Dr Paul supporters.

They seek to sow discord and cause issues.

Maybe, just try and ignore insensitive attacks.

Glad to have you "on board" Real. :)

walt
12-02-2007, 09:26 PM
Some bad timing on this story 'breaking'. If Rudy really falls out of it, that gives us a higher bar to victory as the other big names are going to eat up his support. Wish it would have come out after a few primaries went down to the wire with an even split of support for the big names, ah well.

I think the implications of Rudy and others being tied ot this stuff might get people to start thinking that Ron Paul is "not really a loon afterall".

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 09:29 PM
In "general", please don't let certain posters upset you Real.

There are certain "infiltrators" here that aren't real Dr Paul supporters.

They seek to sow discord and cause issues.

Maybe, just try and ignore insensitive attacks.

Glad to have you "on board" Real. :)

;)Thank you Mark.

I dont understand this whole story and how this is being treated. You would think this would be soo huge that you would hear of nothing else from the chatter box.

The t.v. avoiding this like the plague is understandable, but not touching it here is just weird.:confused:

walt
12-02-2007, 09:30 PM
In "general", please don't let certain posters upset you Real.

There are certain "infiltrators" here that aren't real Dr Paul supporters.

They seek to sow discord and cause issues.

Maybe, just try and ignore insensitive attacks.

Glad to have you "on board" Real. :)

Surely you're joking, me3 is one ot the must ardent, creative and thought provoking posters on this board.

freedominnumbers
12-02-2007, 09:34 PM
;)Thank you Mark.

I dont understand this whole story and how this is being treated. You would think this would be soo huge that you would hear of nothing else from the chatter box.

The t.v. avoiding this like the plague is understandable, but not touching it here is just weird.:confused:

I'm glad it was reposted because I never saw it the first time. The front page can cycle in about 10 minutes making pertinent information disappear.

This is serious info. If this info exists then there is obviously much more out there.
This is a giant catapult for Ron Paul's belief that as long as the victims of 9-11 aren't satisfied another investigation should be done.

When Giuliani, and presumably others, are hiding 9-11 skeletons it's no wonder they try to dismiss the thought as unpatriotic.

Dorfsmith
12-02-2007, 09:37 PM
Wow! I missed this the first time around. About time the MSM picks up on it. I agree that this could hurt Paul if Rudy's votes go to somebody else but it could also frustrate some of Rudy's supporters and rather than voting for somebody else they might just stay home on primary day. Regardless, it's nice to see that somebody noticed Rudy's dark past.

Adamsa
12-02-2007, 09:42 PM
It's like he WANTS to lose to Huckabee or Romney...

dude58677
12-02-2007, 09:49 PM
This is great and it will help Ron Paul because this SEVERELY damages the credibility of the 9-11 fear mongering. People will then asume that McCain and Romney have stuff up their sleeves as well. Then Ron Paul will say, I told you never to trust these other people and their fear mongering.

Believe it or not, this clinches the Presidency for Ron Paul. Thank you Olberman.:D:):D

Wyurm
12-02-2007, 10:09 PM
If this doesn't go beyond Olbermann, I actually doubt it will do much of anything to the race. I've seen many reports that seem like they should have a huge impact on people's views, ironically they don't seem to do anything. Then I hear about things that don't seem like they should matter at all and the effect is gigantic. For example, Romney thinking its ok to put a dog on top of a car should make people question how he would treat citizens. Instead, the one thing that seems to be tripping him up is his religion.

It doesn't help that Olbermann doesn't speak to the current Republican base either.

dircha
12-02-2007, 10:16 PM
You guys are crazy conspiracy theorists.

Rumor has it that Rudy Giuliani was a member of the Nazi Party. The rumor is associated with the following undated image of him in Nazi regalia that has recently surfaced:

http://cache.wonkette.com/politics/upload/2006/07/werner_klemperer.jpg

Mark Rushmore
12-02-2007, 10:18 PM
Rumor has it that Rudy Giuliani was a member of the Nazi Party. The rumor is associated with the following undated image of him in Nazi regalia that has recently surfaced:

http://cache.wonkette.com/politics/upload/2006/07/werner_klemperer.jpg

Rudy is much more scary looking than that fellow, I think it's a ruse.

Real_CaGeD
12-02-2007, 10:24 PM
Why are you joking about this very serious issue?

This story states that Mr. 911 makes millions of dollars from those that attacked us.

louisiana4liberty
12-02-2007, 10:26 PM
Wow, this will really help us out in the polls. Especially being so close to NH's primary. See link to article... http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0748,barrett,78478,6.html

JPFromTally
12-02-2007, 10:28 PM
[QUOTE=dircha;516453]Rumor has it that Rudy Giuliani was a member of the Nazi Party. The rumor is associated with the following undated image of him in Nazi regalia that has recently surfaced:

Yes, here he is doing the sieg heil at a gay pride parade:

http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/rudypride.jpg

RP4ME
12-02-2007, 10:35 PM
Excuse me, I made a mistake.

You would figure that I would had seen a post of this importance. I wonder if it just slid off the front page, with not a notice or reply?

I would figure this would be big shit, kinda like your attitude.

yeah can we stop the forum police? Teacher you forgot to give us HW?

gerryb
12-02-2007, 11:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwEV3IusKW4

Why is it any time I talk to a Rudy supporter, they say Ron Paul is the one who is unelectable.... How many Rudy scandals does it take until one catches on and wakes up his supporters??

This country has gone catatonic.

Real_CaGeD
12-03-2007, 07:00 AM
Why has this story been killed in the msm?

Makes me wonder.

Seanmc30
12-03-2007, 07:34 AM
Why has this story been killed in the msm?

Makes me wonder.


Good question! I suppose we could ask the same question about every day/policy/decision made about the current administration. I guess the good thing is that there are 9 candidates out for blood...not including the Democrats who will be running the streets screaming this into bullhorns if he becomes the nominee.

Personally I gauge the condition of the Republican primary on my parents. They are the "classic" voters and get their information in the quantity and form that most average people do. Incidentally, last night my dad (who at first was hoping for a Giuliani run and liked the idea) admitted last night that he doesn't think Giuliani has a snowballs chance in hell at winning even the primaries.

So, based on my barometer Giuliani is likely done....."Fast Outta' the Gate...No Stamina!"

Real_CaGeD
12-03-2007, 07:45 AM
Good question! I suppose we could ask the same question about every day/policy/decision made about the current administration. I guess the good thing is that there are 9 candidates out for blood...not including the Democrats who will be running the streets screaming this into bullhorns if he becomes the nominee.

Personally I gauge the condition of the Republican primary on my parents. They are the "classic" voters and get their information in the quantity and form that most average people do. Incidentally, last night my dad (who at first was hoping for a Giuliani run and liked the idea) admitted last night that he doesn't think Giuliani has a snowballs chance in hell at winning even the primaries.

So, based on my barometer Giuliani is likely done....."Fast Outta' the Gate...No Stamina!"

My Father is Republican base, Bob Barr cronie.

"They turned up the printing presses and are spending like a bunch of G.D. Democrats", My Dad.

My dad is really pissed and waiting for the RNC to call soo he can tell them that he is supporting the party. His money and vote is going to Ron Paul.

Old Pop is pretty sharp, he didnt need any info from me to support Dr. Paul. Dad believes the party will do anything and everything they can to screw Paul over. He knows the party is run by fake conservatives, and says if it wasnt for Reagan we would be full fledge socialist already.

MsDoodahs
12-03-2007, 08:11 AM
Why has this story been killed in the msm?

Makes me wonder.

For the same reason Rudy's use of taxpayer funds to further his extramarital affair has been killed in the MSM.