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Anti Federalist
09-28-2014, 05:53 PM
And must be neutralized by government action.




In his speech to the UN, 25 Sept. 2014.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-at-the-un-general-assembly-2014
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Defeating the ideology of extremism

The root cause of this terrorist threat is a poisonous ideology of Islamist extremism. This is nothing to do with Islam, which is a peaceful religion which inspires countless acts of generosity every day. Islamist extremism on the other hand believes in using the most brutal forms of terrorism to force people to accept a warped world view and to live in a quasi-mediaeval state.

To defeat ISIL – and organisations like it - we must defeat this ideology in all its forms.

As evidence emerges about the backgrounds of those convicted of terrorist offences, it is clear that many of them were initially influenced by preachers who claim not to encourage violence, but whose world view can be used as a justification for it.

We know this world view.

The peddling of lies: that 9/11 was a Jewish plot or that the 7/7 London attacks were staged.

(Not a "Jewish plot" , exactly, but certainly an "inside job" by Western intelligence services and their doppelgangers. - AF)

The idea that Muslims are persecuted all over the world as a deliberate act of Western policy. The concept of an inevitable clash of civilisations.

We must be clear: to defeat the ideology of extremism we need to deal with all forms of extremism – not just violent extremism.

For governments, there are some obvious ways we can do this. We must ban preachers of hate from coming to our countries. We must proscribe organisations that incite terrorism against people at home and abroad. We must work together to take down illegal online material like the recent videos of ISIL murdering hostages.

And we must stop the so called non-violent extremists from inciting hatred and intolerance in our schools, our universities and yes, even our prisons.

Of course there are some who will argue that this is not compatible with free speech and intellectual inquiry.

But I say: would we sit back and allow right-wing extremists, Nazis or Klu Klux Klansmen to recruit on our university campuses? No.

So we shouldn’t stand by and just allow any form of non-violent extremism. We need to argue that prophecies of a global war of religion pitting Muslims against the rest of the world. These things are nonsense. We need Muslims and their governments around the world to reclaim their religion from these sick terrorists as so many are doing and quite rightly doing today.

We all need to help them with programmes that channel young people away from these poisonous ideologues. And we need the strongest possible international focus on tackling this ideology - which is why here at the United Nations, the United Kingdom is calling for a new Special Representative on extremism.

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Taking an uncompromising approach

Finally, when the safety and security of our people is at stake, we must be uncompromising in our response. That starts at home.

For our part, in the United Kingdom, we are introducing new powers.

(Just five minutes earlier, he was blathering about "democracy" and rule of law. How democratic and how lawful is a government that just "introduces" new, sweeping powers to itself? - AF)

To strengthen our ability to seize passports and stop suspects travelling.

To allow us to strip British identity from dual nationals and temporarily prevent some British nationals getting back into our country.

To ensure that airlines comply with our no fly lists and security screening requirements.

And to enable our police and our security services to apply for stronger locational constraints on those in the UK who pose a risk.

(And just what the fuck is that doubletalk supposed to mean? - AF)

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My message today is simple. We are facing an evil against which the whole of the world should unite. And, as ever in the cause of freedom, democracy and justice, Britain will play its part.

(Saving freedom by destroying it. - AF)

Christian Liberty
09-28-2014, 06:05 PM
Would those who were advocating George Washington's execution the other day be consistent enough to apply the same standard to this scumbag? Washington was a laissez faire hero compared to modern leaders like Obama or Cameron....

Anti Federalist
09-28-2014, 06:07 PM
Would those who were advocating George Washington's execution the other day be consistent enough to apply the same standard to this scumbag? Washington was a laissez faire hero compared to modern leaders like Obama or Cameron....

That sounds like extremist talk.

I think you need a "locational constraint" put on you.

Christian Liberty
09-28-2014, 06:10 PM
That sounds like extremist talk.

I think you need a "locational constraint" put on you.

Carefully parse the words I wrote... all I did was ask a question to some people that weren't me and made a statement (relatively) praising George Washington. If that's a crime a lot of people are criminals;)

TheTexan
09-28-2014, 06:13 PM
It's about time we took a hard stance on those non-violent extremists. They've been non-violent-extreme-ing for far too long.

Anti Federalist
09-28-2014, 06:42 PM
It's about time we took a hard stance on those non-violent extremists. They've been non-violent-extreme-ing for far too long.

Vote harder...that'll solve the problems.

ctiger2
09-28-2014, 06:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly7jKewCF3U

The good thing is Cameron's a complete fuck-up.

Tywysog Cymru
09-28-2014, 07:55 PM
Notice how the people who advocate bombing and occupying other countries are not extremists but "sane moderates."

Slave Mentality
09-29-2014, 07:38 AM
Notice how the people who advocate bombing and occupying other countries are not extremists but "sane moderates."

http://www.thirdtablet.com/InfiniteJustUs/war_is_peace.gif

acptulsa
09-29-2014, 08:17 AM
And must be neutralized by government action.

Of course. Non violent offenses must be worse than violent offenses, or the government wouldn't be specializing in the latter.


(Not a "Jewish plot" , exactly, but certainly an "inside job" by Western intelligence services and their doppelgangers. - AF)

Well of course we have to say the plot is Jewish. How else can they dismiss us as anti-semitic? So all you guys who haven't been blaming all these governmental conspiracies on da joos, get with the program! Cameron is saying we're blaming this stuff on da joos, so how can we make a liar of him? We've got to blame it on da joos for the Queen who isn't our Queen and her country which isn't our country. It's the least we can do!