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Mom Ann Whalen Sentenced To Prison For Giving Daughter Abortion Pills


By David DeKok

HARRISBURG, Pa., Sept 6 (Reuters) - A Pennsylvania woman has been sentenced to up to 18 months in prison for obtaining so-called abortion pills online and providing them to her teenage daughter to end her pregnancy.

Jennifer Ann Whalen, 39, of Washingtonville, a single mother who works as a nursing home aide, pleaded guilty in August to obtaining the miscarriage-inducing pills from an online site in Europe for her daughter, 16, who did not want to have the child.

Whalen was sentenced on Friday by Montour County Court of Common Pleas Judge Gary Norton to serve 12 months to 18 months in prison for violating a state law that requires abortions to be performed by physicians.

She was also fined $1,000 and ordered to perform 40 hours of community service after her release. The felony offense called for up to seven years in prison and a $15,000 fine.

Matthew Bingham Banks, Whalen's lawyer, previously told Reuters criminal prosecutions of this kind were not common.

Whalen told authorities there was no local clinic available to perform an abortion and her daughter did not have health insurance to cover a hospital abortion, the Press Enterprise newspaper of Bloomsburg reported.

Her daughter experienced severe cramping and bleeding after taking the pills and Whalen took her to a hospital near her home for treatment, the newspaper said.

The closest abortion clinic to Whalen's home is about 74 miles away in Harrisburg.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/07/ann-whalen-abortion-daughter_n_5777120.html

[Christian Liberty]

Its a shame that she isn't going to be executed.

The fact that one can aid and abet murder in this country and end up with less prison time than some drug "criminals" is downright sad.

[tod evans]

I don't think the point is pro/con abortion....

I came away with the point being duplicity in law.

[pessimist]

Hmmm...I wonder if there is way to prevent pregnancies from occurring in the first place? It seems to me that would cut out the occasional barbaric (you've heard the stories), controversial (is a fetus an actual human), but sometimes necessary (life at risk) practice of abortion.

I'm pro-choice but abortion makes me very uneasy. I just wish this culture would rationally talk about sex. I mean, they sexualize women (and even men now) all throughout the media, kids are growing up on violent hardcore porn, and sex is vulgarly discussed in every outlet of our culture, but they fail to understand it. The intimacy, the risks, the consequences are just not taken into consideration. In some parts of this country and many families refuse to educate their children on the subject.

The results? Sadness all around.

When kids are growing up thinking they don't need to practice safe sex because abortion is the safe and easy alternative- that is a problem.

When kids grow up with prudish or overly religious parents who are either too squeamish or morally opposed to educating their own children about safe sex and birth control- the results can be devastating.

This story is sad on multiple levels.

[tangent4ronpaul]

This is BS! "Plan B" is legal and OTC in the US. At any age. It's actually a rip off as there are cheat sheets for normal BC pills that add up to the identical compounds and results are freely available. Stopping it before it takes hold.

What BS!

-t

[Origanalist]

I don't think the point is pro/con abortion....

I came away with the point being duplicity in law.

As in "don't be cruel to or shoot your dog".

[Christian Liberty]

I don't think the point is pro/con abortion....

I came away with the point being duplicity in law.

I understand. But abortion angers me far more than even duplicity in the law does. Its a modern day holocaust. Much as I understand the hypocrisy of "allowing" physicians to commit murder, I'm still happy when anyone who commits or assists a murder is punished. I don't think prison is a good punishment though. And I think abortionists should be put to death.

[Root]

I understand. But abortion angers me far more than even duplicity in the law does. Its a modern day holocaust. Much as I understand the hypocrisy of "allowing" physicians to commit murder, I'm still happy when anyone who commits or assists a murder is punished. I don't think prison is a good punishment though. And I think abortionists should be put to death.
By whom?

[dannno]

Its a shame that she isn't going to be executed.

The fact that one can aid and abet murder in this country and end up with less prison time than some drug "criminals" is downright sad.

Not everybody agrees that all abortion is murder.

[Christian Liberty]

By whom?

Whatever the governing authority happens to be. Ideally a free market ancap system. Why is it that libertarians only ask this question WRT abortion, and not any other aggressive act?


Not everybody agrees that all abortio is murder.

Not everybody agrees that cops who break into people's homes on drug raids, or who confiscate guns, are evil. Who cares?

[VoluntaryAmerican]

I don't think the point is pro/con abortion....

I came away with the point being duplicity in law.

The mob is protecting the Dr racket, which does its bidding from time to time.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Whatever the governing authority happens to be. Ideally a free market ancap system. Why is it that libertarians only ask this question WRT abortion, and not any other aggressive act?



Not everybody agrees that cops who break into people's homes on drug raids, or who confiscate guns, are evil. Who cares?

You do realize in an ancap society abortion would broadly be penalty free IMO. There certainly is a market for it and a lot of support... curious as why you believe contrary.

Edit:

Iirc havent you gone on the record as anti capital punishment? Youd make a good politician FF.

[Dr.3D]

The mob is protecting the Dr racket, which does its bidding from time to time.
The medicine man (witch doctor) has always been an important person in tribal society.

[tod evans]

The mob is protecting the Dr racket, which does its bidding from time to time.

Time to time?

The DEA and FDA have scuba masks on 'cause they're so far up Dr's butts....

[Anti Federalist]

Three felonies a day

[Christian Liberty]

Three felonies a day

No, this is one of the rare times where something should actually be illegal. Killing a defenseless child should be illegal. Buying pills that can be used solely for the purpose of murdering unborn children should be illegal for the same reasons nuclear weapons should be illegal, because they can only be used to kill the innocent.

And no, I don't trust the government to solve these problems. I think the government is responsible for this problem, in part by using lethal violence to protect people who commit murder. Think about why Scott Roeder is in prison.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

No, this is one of the rare times where something should actually be illegal. Killing a defenseless child should be illegal. Buying pills that can be used solely for the purpose of murdering unborn children should be illegal for the same reasons nuclear weapons should be illegal, because they can only be used to kill the innocent.

And no, I don't trust the government to solve these problems. I think the government is responsible for this problem, in part by using lethal violence to protect people who commit murder. Think about why Scott Roeder is in prison.

The government is not responsible for abortions, and they would still happen if a government didn't exist. Granted the government currently approves of it, as you correctly stated.

How would an ancap society impede/stop abortion from occurring? Curious.

[Christian Liberty]

The government is not responsible for abortions, and they would still happen if a government didn't exist. Granted the government currently approves of it, as you correctly stated.

How would an ancap society impede/stop murder from occurring? Curious.

In theory its really the same issue (I changed "Abortion" to "murder" to make the point.) How does an ancap society punish murder?

Why couldn't the same answer apply to abortion? Mind you, it might not if many people deny the unborn's right to life, but I don't see why that's intrinsic to the system.

[fr33]

The article does not say whether the pregnancy was at or past the zygote phase so I withhold judgement.

[jonhowe]

This is BS! "Plan B" is legal and OTC in the US. At any age. It's actually a rip off as there are cheat sheets for normal BC pills that add up to the identical compounds and results are freely available. Stopping it before it takes hold.

What BS!

-t

This does not sound like plan b. It was bought online from EUROPE, implying it's something not available in the US. Plus, plan B is not an abortion, so there would be no crime if she had given her that.