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aGameOfThrones
09-04-2014, 06:27 PM
U.S. court rejects gay-marriage bans as 'implausible'

By Lawrence Hurley

WASHINGTON Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:57pm EDT


(Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court judge known for his outspoken views described arguments by Wisconsin and Indiana defending bans on gay marriage as "totally implausible" on Thursday, in a ruling in favor of same-sex couples.

Judge Richard Posner, appointed by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1981, wrote the unanimous decision on behalf of a three-judge panel of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The court ruled against the bans.

The unusually swift decision, issued just over a week after the court heard oral arguments in two different cases, does not take immediate effect and is unlikely do so until the U.S. Supreme Court weighs in during its coming term.

The arguments advanced by both states in defense of the bans were "totally implausible," wrote Posner, 75 and the panel's lone Republican appointee.

"Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children; their reward is to be allowed to marry. Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children; their reward is to be denied the right to marry. Go figure,"Posner said.

Posner has written dozens of books, including one about economics and intellectual property law. He also is a founding author of a blog on law and economics.

Two years ago he engaged in an unusual public spat with Justice Antonin Scalia, a leading conservative on the Supreme Court. In a review of Scalia's new book, Posner wrote the justice's judicial opinions deviated from the strict, text-based approach to interpreting law espoused in his book. Scalia, also appointed by Reagan, publicly disagreed.

EQUAL PROTECTION

The ruling said the bans on gay marriage in the two states violated the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of equal protection under the law. Two other federal appeals courts have ruled the same way, striking down bans in Virginia, Utah and Oklahoma.

The Supreme Court is expected to weigh in on the gay marriage issue during its coming term, which starts in October and ends in June 2015.

More than 30 courts overall have ruled in favor of gay marriage since a Supreme Court ruling in June 2013 struck down a key part of the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act under which states could refuse to recognize same-sex marriages from other states. A federal judge in Louisiana bucked the trend on Wednesday when he upheld that state's ban.

Gay marriage is legal in 19 of the 50 states and in Washington, D.C.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/04/us-usa-gayrmarriage-indianawisconsin-idUSKBN0GZ2J420140904

DamianTV
09-04-2014, 07:32 PM
Permission to either wed or have kids is not theirs to grant.

Christian Liberty
09-04-2014, 08:00 PM
Permission to either wed or have kids is not theirs to grant.

Yes, it is God's. God says ***** can't marry;)

thoughtomator
09-04-2014, 08:08 PM
Yes, it is God's. God says ***** can't marry;)

Marriage as an institution doesn't make sense outside the context of creating a protected environment for the raising of children. Homosexuals can only emulate this by the further depravity of intentionally depriving an adopted child of having both male and female parents, which I consider child abuse.

Sadly all the standard arguments supporting the traditional institution of marriage - which would be an absurdity to apply to homosexuals - are undermined by abuses of rampant divorce, child support, and alimony.

At this point the only satisfactory solution I can think of is to get government out of the marriage business altogether and return it to where it came - religious institutions.

PRB
09-04-2014, 08:16 PM
wait, are we supposed to thank ***** for not having children??

CPUd
09-04-2014, 08:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EPfGNbU.png

PRB
09-04-2014, 08:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EPfGNbU.png

heters gonna hete

CPUd
09-04-2014, 08:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVeF7Cj.jpg

PRB
09-04-2014, 08:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVeF7Cj.jpg

so cute!

Anti Federalist
09-04-2014, 08:41 PM
Is "heters" a "thing" now?

aGameOfThrones
09-04-2014, 08:50 PM
Is "heters" a "thing" now?

I had to make room on the title

Philhelm
09-04-2014, 09:57 PM
This thread is so heterophobic.

dannno
09-04-2014, 10:02 PM
I had to make room on the title

That doesn't explain the memes.

aGameOfThrones
09-04-2014, 10:06 PM
That doesn't explain the memes.

CPUd probably made them(right?) just for this thread

CPUd
09-04-2014, 10:23 PM
I did the one with the turtle, the other one I found.

aGameOfThrones
09-04-2014, 10:29 PM
I did the one with the turtle, the other one I found.

but does the heters from the first meme mean the same as the heters from the thread title? if it doesn't then I just started a thing....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7TnoCM7fo

parocks
09-04-2014, 10:54 PM
Marriage as an institution doesn't make sense outside the context of creating a protected environment for the raising of children. Homosexuals can only emulate this by the further depravity of intentionally depriving an adopted child of having both male and female parents, which I consider child abuse.

Sadly all the standard arguments supporting the traditional institution of marriage - which would be an absurdity to apply to homosexuals - are undermined by abuses of rampant divorce, child support, and alimony.

At this point the only satisfactory solution I can think of is to get government out of the marriage business altogether and return it to where it came - religious institutions.

Right. The only purpose of marriage is reproduction, or ordered reproduction.

parocks
09-04-2014, 10:56 PM
wait, are we supposed to thank ***** for not having children??

Back in the day, in some circles, Posner was thought of as a good judge, a scholar, etc.

fr33
09-04-2014, 11:10 PM
I didn't get married just to have kids like some here are saying. Luckily I'm not religious. I could have had kids without a marriage.

Southron
09-04-2014, 11:23 PM
At this point the only satisfactory solution I can think of is to get government out of the marriage business altogether and return it to where it came - religious institutions.

Good luck with that. If anything, all these rulings from federal judges against the states is increasing the involvement of government in marriage. Instead of the individual states defining marriage, the federal government will tells us what marriages are appropriate. Morality, gift-wrapped from D.C.

MRK
09-05-2014, 12:21 AM
Heters; I like it. Looks like toady :toady: just found new company.

thoughtomator
09-05-2014, 11:22 AM
heters gonna hete

DamianTV
09-05-2014, 01:54 PM
But but but we need Govt to protect the Children! ... from, uh, other Children! wait, that doesnt make any sense. Um, oooh, no, I got it! Since we need Govt to protect all Children, all our children are belong to Govt!

Acala
09-05-2014, 02:20 PM
Right. The only purpose of marriage is reproduction, or ordered reproduction.

The only purpose of marriage is . . . I can't think of one.

pcosmar
09-05-2014, 02:55 PM
That doesn't explain the memes.

Misspelling does.